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Government can not protect anybody, even themselves. Protection lies in d hands of God n individuals. So everyone, every home should invest in a gun or 2 so dat any mess up, Ɣ☺Ʊ put those dogs down. Pple r not in a hurry to attack when they know Ɣ☺Ʊ can defend urself very well. Everyonev should own a gun now: it is every man for himself. Ɣ☺Ʊ might even need to teach ur kids how to use dem incase of anythin in their school or somethin. These r dangerous times. May God help us all.

Atleast I ll give you this, Ɣ☺Ʊ know how to quote bible passages even if you have faulty understanding. Do what Ɣ☺Ʊ must as all human beings must choose their path .I worship n pray to d One True God n maintain a relationship wit all who loved n walked wit Him on earth cuz I believe they r in heaven with Him. Just as loving ur husband/wife does not mean Ɣ☺Ʊ won't maintain close relationships wit their family n friends.

Ɣ☺Ʊ did not reply my questions: Ɣ☺Ʊ r just quoting n quoting wat Ɣ☺Ʊ don't understand upside down. We shall continue to make images of those we love n honour and whether Ɣ☺Ʊ write in capital letters, bold or italics; ur points remain baseless and diversionary.

Really? So wat makes Ɣ☺Ʊ believe ur own church or pastors r not d same ones being quoted in ur passages:working wonders n miracles and r yet far from God? R Ɣ☺Ʊ able to tell? D bible does not tell us to have pictures of our parents or weddings and hang them at home to look upon from time to time. Neither does it tell us to make statues of our heroes on strategic street corners in honour of them. So if we can do this in honour of ordinary human beings like us, wat is d beef wit catholics who erect statues of Mary, Joseph, Peter, Paul and other saints in honour of their walk with Christ on earth. Y d issues wit Mary? Y don't pple talk about d images we have of Jesus himself, his apostles, etc?y d particular beef wit Mary? Could it not be as d bible has declared enemity btw her and d devil, her offspring n his own: d devils only defence is to turn pple against her for She is his greatest enemy. The mother of our saviour, our mother. And everyone knows you don't mess with a woman's child in her presence.

Nigeria is not d disgrace, human beings r d disgrace and they r all over d world, snipers, terrorists, child molesters n killers, racist murderers,etc. They r all over d world, evil n sick God forsaken human beings, not just Nigeria which is just a location. God save us all.

They alwayz does dat, I don't understood them Nepa ats alls. Them isn't knew thiar job

If our forefathers did not fight wars do Ɣ☺Ʊ know where we will be? Plucking sugar canes with padlocks in our mouths to stop us from eatin them while harvesting.it is easy to say thou shall not kill until ur child or family member is killed in front of Ɣ☺Ʊ then Ɣ☺Ʊ won't know when Ɣ☺Ʊ ll carry matchet. Yes we should not kill but Ɣ☺Ʊ can defend urself, ur family n ur country even if it ll cause some deaths. D truth of life is dat no one will giv Ɣ☺Ʊ ur right if Ɣ☺Ʊ don't fight. Wars r not for killin dats y prisoners r taken when they surrender: war is to fight or change an anomaly. bible said honour thy father n thy mother but if ur father sexually or mentally abuses Ɣ☺Ʊ,does this commandment still hold. No, it is an anomaly: Ɣ☺Ʊ either get him arrested or Ɣ☺Ʊ cut his d, k off, just a few suggestions dat r well deserved. Thou shalt not kill. Thou shalt take up thy sword against evil

Guy do Ɣ☺Ʊ know d origin of man? Of africans before d arrival of christianity? Obviously pagan and yet will Ɣ☺Ʊ throw all africans away cuz of their pagan origin? No. It is not ur place. whatever is bound on earth is bound in heaven n wherever 3 or more agree, God is there. So if pple hav replaced goin to d shrine on sundays with going to church instead or have replaced d day of celebration of an idol/fake god to d celebration of d One True Son of God, Jesus Christ, then I don't believe God ll be upset with dat so why should Ɣ☺Ʊ be bothered?

All these quotes r baseless n prove nothin except dat d poster is quarelsome. Mary cooperated in salvation just as Peter, John, Paul etc cooperated. Does dat stop Jesus from being our salvation? No! God forbids images n yet when d isrealites were being bitten by a snake God told them to make an image of d snake n whoever looks on it will b healed. We should not invoke d spirit of Mary right? Yet for those who have lost a parent or both, Ɣ☺Ʊ sometimes in ur mind pray to them to help Ɣ☺Ʊ with one thing or d other cuz Ɣ☺Ʊ believe they r in heaven n can help Ɣ☺Ʊ. My point is d bible is very wide n complicated, even a thief can quote it to support his crime like tellin d story of d wise steward. So worship ur God as Ɣ☺Ʊ can n let others do so too. At d end of d day God has not come down to tell Ɣ☺Ʊ d actual truth, instead we r all working wit faith based on wat is taught to us by human beings like us.

Story story. Somethin dat is not real will not last. If God is not with d church, it would not have lasted dis long, as was said in d bible, any who falsely claim to follow Christ will self destruct. Catholics should never be offended wit all these evil n uninformed criticisms for even Jesus Christ was accused of witch craft n gettin His powers from d devil. So nothing do us.

‎​A̶̲̥̅̊b̶̲̥̅̊e̶̲̥̅̊g̶̲̥̅̊ everybody alive is a sinner, its only d Grace of God dat we r trustin in to make it to heaven whether born again or born before. All have sinned o. Bible said call no one father or teacher. ‎​​º°˚˚°ºĶ go n call ur dad or teacher man, anythin Ɣ☺Ʊ see Ɣ☺Ʊ take it like dat. Bible even said call no one good cuz only God is good. So r there not pple Ɣ☺Ʊ call good? Be wise all n be like d other man in d bible who stayed at d entrance of d temple beatin his chest sayin I'm a sinner, forgive me Lord AND NOT d one who extolled all his perceived virtues before God. Peace!

@alorauzoms. Hi n welcome. Let's have name(nickname if Ɣ☺Ʊ like), sex, age,qualifications n job if any. Then say wat Ɣ☺Ʊ r looking for in d opp sex. Tnx

I don't know wat God allows or not, I'm not His secretary n can not limit him to a box of expectations. I only know wat I saw. apparitions Ɣ☺Ʊ call unclean spirits were once human. Y r they still around? Wat r dey looking for?once Ɣ☺Ʊ die, dats d end. Ɣ☺Ʊ can no longer pray or do anything for urself. Ɣ☺Ʊ r now completely dependent on those alive to pray Ɣ☺Ʊ into heaven or Ɣ☺Ʊ ll never cross over ie if Ɣ☺Ʊ r in purgatory.if Ɣ☺Ʊ r in hell, ur case has closed forever. All have sinned but not every sin is deservin of death.someone who lied n someone who killed can not hav d same punishment.God is a just God:giving everyone their dues. If Ɣ☺Ʊ can't enter heaven as a result of ur sin n Ɣ☺Ʊ don't enter hell cuz Ɣ☺Ʊ don't deserve it, where then will Ɣ☺Ʊ be?D idea of purgatory is a place where such pple r purged of their sins thru attonement n prayers.

Lol. ‎​A̶̲̥̅̊b̶̲̥̅̊e̶̲̥̅̊g̶̲̥̅̊ everyone should take it easy. God has put his laws into our hearts according to d new covenant, so watever Ɣ☺Ʊ believe do it n wat Ɣ☺Ʊ don't believe leave it. I'm a full catholic but I admit to some doubts about purgatory until I encountered 2 life experiences and we all know d easiest thing to believe is wat Ɣ☺Ʊ see wit ur own eyes.D first was a respected lady dr whose husband had recently died. She spoke to d congregation how a few years ago,a poor old woman was brought to d hospital she ran wit her husband. D woman could not pay so they refused to treat her n turned her away. She died. A couple of years later d husband too died. 2 weeks after he was buried, he appeared to her in a dream and told her how a big tree was blocking his way into heaven n an angel told him to cut down d tree in order to pass. When he asked for somethin to cut d tree wit, he was given a razor blade. Now while workin on d tree under d scorching sun he grew thirsty n asked for water then dat old woman came to him wit a tray full of money. Everytime he asks for water, d old woman will appear with a tray of money. He advised his wife if she did not want to join him where he is to start treating anyone who comes to d hospital money or no money. Masses were said on d husband's behalf but I never knew if he eventually got out. The 2nd story is closer home, my younger brother. One of his teachers at school died, a teacher I knew cuz I finished from d same schl. I think he was a deeper life or jehovah witness I'm not sure.my bro woke up one day lookin morose n worried, mum asked himm wat was up n he told her he saw his teacher in a dream lookin haggard n dirty n he was tellin my bro help me pls help me. Even me I wondered wat an 11yr old boy could do. But my mum understood immediately n asked for d teacher's full name n booked Mass for 3 days for him. About a month later when we had forgotten d whole incident, my bro just came smilin sayin he had seen d teacher again and he was wearin clean bright white shirt n trousers n was greetin him how are Ɣ☺Ʊ how are Ɣ☺Ʊ, callin him by name. So na so o, things dey dis world. Even elders who r not xtians talk about seeing their late parents around d village or something, lookin d way they did in their youth. I'm sure many pple hav encountered issues like dis from friends or family. Its usually y a dead person keeps coming back to Ɣ☺Ʊ, they need prayers n catholics r d only religion dat prays for d dead. So my advice to catholic haters is dat don't b in a hurry to hate dem who knows they might b d only ones Ɣ☺Ʊ can talk to when ur time is up n they ll know what to do for Ɣ☺Ʊ. I always wondered y dat teacher, a middle aged guy chose my small bro to appear to? Is it possible he was d only catholic he knew wit a mother like mine who would book mass for n pray for someone she never knew. Its a strange world. Let ur hearts n experiences guide Ɣ☺Ʊ. May God help us all find our way to Him. Amen!

Your child belongs to Ɣ☺Ʊ,God gave him/her to Ɣ☺Ʊ and Ɣ☺Ʊ r solely responsible in d eye of God and man for how that child turns out. Ɣ☺Ʊ can baptize, vaccinate, immunize,open an account, authorize an operation on ur child if Ɣ☺Ʊ and Ɣ☺Ʊ alone consider it necessary for d good of d child. Ɣ☺Ʊ have d authority to make a decision for ur child.Bible never said we should do any of d above for our children but we do it, knowing wat is good and bad for d child. Besides remember Jesus was presented to d priest, Simeon, at d temple by his parents at infancy, a form of jewish baptism wouldn't Ɣ☺Ʊ say.

Dats nice. But catholics only on this thread for now

Sometimes its difficult to find a partner of d same faith. So let's try see if people can find their life partner/ companion/love.

@plappville. I understand all Ɣ☺Ʊ have said. But a pastor helping pple towards, , bringin dem back to d fold, , is all d same as LEADING. So Ɣ☺Ʊ contradict urself a bit. Now at schl, d principal is d overall head n determines wat happens in d schl. Now if Ɣ☺Ʊ want something from him/her, Ɣ☺Ʊ can always go directly OR go thru a teacher close to him/her. Both ways can get Ɣ☺Ʊ wat Ɣ☺Ʊ want but which wld Ɣ☺Ʊ rather follow?God is for us all. D purpose of dat homework is to show dat everything can not b in d bible. As diverse human beings, we will bring in new words n ways of worship but d important thing is not to lose focus of d MAIN PERSON_JESUS. Love not things of d world can not explain not listening to secular music. We r in d world where money is used, so won't Ɣ☺Ʊ use money? Earn a living? Eat food? Watch TV? Drive a car? Use an airplane? All things of d world. Dat Ɣ☺Ʊ use all these does not mean Ɣ☺Ʊ love them, it just means dat Ɣ☺Ʊ must exist and live fully in d life God has given Ɣ☺Ʊ.

@chiteny. If ur father, mother or even pastor can lead Ɣ☺Ʊ to Jesus, does dat mean d Holy Spirit is not a part of it since only He shld lead Ɣ☺Ʊ to Jesus?I mean if Ɣ☺Ʊ say anyone dat is not d Holy Spirit leads one to d devil, well then, dat means ur parents or pastor r leading Ɣ☺Ʊ to,

@proo212. How did I contradict myself? In all I've said, Mary prays for us to Jesus, intercedes on our behalf to Jesus as in Cana, everything about her leads us to Jesus,wit ur examples,in wat ways or by what understanding do Ɣ☺Ʊ see a contradiction? Have I in all my narration ever said d catholic focus is on Mary? Why do Ɣ☺Ʊ look for wat is not there? I don't know, doesn't make sense.

@Ogaga4luv. The bible is all about Jesus and nobody else. So dat all eyes and all focus will be on him. A historian could be shocked too dat there is no talk about Joseph, all his apostles, and every other character in d bible except how they relate to Jesus. It doesn't mean they were
or are not important or did not have lives separate from Jesus, its just dat d bible is all about Jesus for He is d beginning, middle and end of making it to heaven.Every other person, Mary included, shows us how to live in union wit Jesus cuz they were once ordinary human beings like us.

@ichuka. That is why there is confusion in christiandom today as many spirits have interpreted d bible upside down.their opinion have become d truth led by d Holy Spirit ofcourse. Different teachings, different understanding, different religion.

@I chuka: I don't know what Ɣ☺Ʊ r saying. Ur points r disjointed as in not coherent, cohesive n meaningful.I'd really like to understand Ɣ☺Ʊ but where do Ɣ☺Ʊ get these interpretations from? I believe d best way to avoid errors wit d bible is to understand it just as it is written. Plainly n straight forwardly.

We pray to her to pray for us as some of Ɣ☺Ʊ ask ur pastor and even friends and relatives to pray for Ɣ☺Ʊ. We don't force it, its a connection open to everyone catholic n non-catholic, she is for anyone who wants her love n prayers. We catholics have a saying dat if ur sin causes heaven's gate to b closed on Ɣ☺Ʊ, Mary will bring Ɣ☺Ʊ in thru a window. We sing to her as pple sing to their husband,wife,child,country,etc, expressin ur feelings for them.‎​​º°˚˚°ºĶ so we follow Mary, she follows Jesus,Jesus follows God. Seems to me we r heading in d right direction just like followin Sambo is followin Goodluck Jonathan. Every christian is not Marian but every Marian is Christian. Christ rules Mary, rules d church and d world. Anyone who is not against Him is for Him.Me thinks it soothes His suffering heart to see his beloved mother so loved,honoured and regarded just like any other son would feel. She suffered wit him too. who suffers more I always wonder: d person who dies or those left behind to mourn and miss him.

Now I have a homework for you. Look into ur bible n tell me: 1) where is it written to call a man of God or church leader a Pastor? 2) where is it written that a person can sow a seed in their pastor's life or just sow a seed generally with money to gain favour from God. 3) where is it written in d bible that a woman can head a church and be a pastor preaching to d people in a church gathering? I can even quote where d opposite of this was written in d bible. 4) where is it written dat Ɣ☺Ʊ should go to church on sunday? How about on weekdays? Is d word fellowship in d bible? Does d bible authorise Ɣ☺Ʊ to go to camp? Where does it say Ɣ☺Ʊ should not listen to secular music? Answer me these questions wit proof from d bible n our consider dis subject closed. However, I'm hoping at dis point Ɣ☺Ʊ would have got my drift which is dat d bible can not tell Ɣ☺Ʊ how to work ur religion. It has simply giving us guidelines: Love God with all ur heart, all ur might n all ur strength. Love ur neighbour as urself. With these 2 things, anybody within d age of reasoning should be able to walk without stumbling.

1) She is our role model on humility n submission to God's will as previously stated. we all choose our role models on different aspects of life. Urs could b Zacheus for persistence, Judas for betrayal or Solomon for wisdom. Its a personal choice. 2) we make images of her for d same reason Ɣ☺Ʊ take pictures of those Ɣ☺Ʊ love n make images of great achievers like Herbert Macaulay, Funsho Williams,etc in Lagos. To remember them n keep dem alive in our hearts. We bow to them for d same reason yoruba men prostrate n d women kneel when greeting an elder or a respected HUMAN BEING. In japan n china, d acceptable mode of greeting is to bow ur head to each other or kneel if it is a king. In order words, we r greeting her, showing our respects when we bow. 3) Everyday all over d world, great achievers r honoured wit awards or accolades, etc out of respect for who they r and wat they've done for mankind. Mary birthed Jesus, nurtured n raised him and followed him to d end on d cross. She bore d sorrow of having a child destined to die for mankind. D bible says honour ur father n mother. We have called her our mother: therefore we honour her. Isn't it strange how we overlook praising a human being for their actions, worshipping d ground a lover walks on, glorifying d beauty or courage of a person,adoring a baby, honouring a good man/woman but immediately jump up in offence if these adjectives r used with Mary, who is blessed among women, d favoured one of God. Strange isn't it.

Smiles, great interpreter. That woman is Mary, d child she had is Jesus and d dragon(d devil) wanted to eat d child so He would not redeem mankind just as Herod tried to kill Jesus when He was born. If Ɣ☺Ʊ read further, she was taken to a place where she was fed n cared for by angels according to God's command. Ur interpretation is out of dis world, how can a woman be d church? ‎​​º°˚˚°ºĶ so who is d child d church is giving birth to?Doesn't seem logical does it?

If Jesus can b made sinless separate from his mother's womb, so can Mary his mother for nothing I repeat wit sin can come before God. If Mary carried Him for 9 months n gave birth to Him, then she is surely his mother as exclaimed by Elizabeth when she was filled wit d Holy Spirit,', why is this granted me dat d mother of my Lord should come to me?'Luke 1:41-44. And how can anyone say we worship Mary? She who so humbled herself to God wit a prayer dat has become a model of worship to God,Luke 1:46-55. Can such a servant of God ever claim equal powers wit him. She is a role model to catholics of humility n submission to God's will. We honour her as d mother of our Lord who stood by silently in obedience to God's word and watched a child she nurtured from a baby to a todler to a teenager nd finally an adult, 33yrs,being whipped, mobbed and crucified before her eyes and she said nothing, just cried quietly for God's prophecy had to b fulfilled. This has led her to b known as Our Lady of Sorrows in d catholic faith.Jesus never called her mother but every other human being did in d bible:perhaps being God, he did not call her mother but dat doesn't mean he loved or respected her any less in fact He was obedient to His parents Luke 2:51. I know dat there r many mysteries of dis world but for we catholics, we accept ourselves as d servants at Cana whom she told,'do whatever He tells Ɣ☺Ʊ' John 2:5,and we call her our mother cuz we r His beloved apostle to whom Jesus said', behold ur mother'. That's just it. We all know d bible did not fall from heaven but is a compilation of written works of God's apostles n disciples stored over d yrs till d discovery of paper n print work. Those records can still be found in d Vatican in Rome where d pope stays. No book in d world can contain everything dat happens in a person's life. It can only summarise key notes. And who compiled d bible? The Catholic Church. Till date, Mary has no burial place like Jesus n his disciples have in Jerusalem till dis day cuz she was never buried. God honoured and favoured her first by making her d mother of His son. We His children and followers shouldn't do any less.

@I chuka, ur quotes on Jeremiah r old testament long before d birth of Mary so dat queen refered to is an idol believed to b d queen of heaven just as Baal was worshipped before d knowledge of God thru Prophet Elijah as seen if Ɣ☺Ʊ read d chapters fully, then d quotes from Revelations refer to Babylon as can also be seen if d chapters r read fully. D queen we catholics honour is d woman referred to in Rev.12: 1-9. Decisions made on half knowledge tend to be faulty

Yeah right.

No. I'm saying d church kept suppressing Padre pio because they wanted to keep pples focus on Jesus.

Its a miracle only God can explain. Carbolic acid indeed, who knew what dat was in those days? No one. D church ALWAYS suppresses miracles for fear dat pple will divert their worship from God to d person who d miracle happened through. That's y it is rare to see a catholic church advertising miracles even though they happen everyday. It is a human failing to tend to worship a man of God as seen by how some churches worship their pastors n all that.