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MaxInDHouse:
My brother (Cornelboy) is right!
You're an atheist!

Lol. He left the JW.org in search for God in occultic religions. That's deadass hilarious.

Which god is he looking for exactly

Here's what the people of Berea did:

Acts of the Apostles 17:11
[11]And the people of Berea were more open-minded than those in Thessalonica, and they listened eagerly to Paul’s message. They searched the Scriptures day after day to see if Paul and Silas were teaching the truth.

Templee333:
do u believe the HOLY KORAN as God's word? ur answer to my question is also my answ to ur question.

Hell no!

MaxInDHouse:
My friend knowledge and belief are closely related, because it's what you know that you believe (trust) but in case you have no evidence to back it up then it's called credulity.
What you just did with the word EVOLVE is not knowledge since you have no proof but when we talk about the Creator who claims to make man out of all other earthly creatures in His own image of course we have an indisputable evidence: out of all the creatures on planet earth only man can INVENT (CREATE) things which flawed your so called evolution theory because no animal has ever evolved into something else whereas man has continued to prove that we were created in the image of a CREATOR! Genesis 1:26

Whoa! That makes a lot of sense

Templee333:
can u,please,define the term cult? And what makes u think u know the true God? What salvation are u refering to?

Do you believe the Bible as God's word?

achorladey:
In order to hide his personal experience that holds no water, cornelboy had to enter into the realm of reasonable and pragmatic. I know you are reasonable and pragmatic that's why say you are A in minute 1 and in minute 2 you are not A. That's how reasonable and pragmatic people do.
Regarding the better religious organization based on membership population reasonably and pragmatically those you love to call false Christians are far far better. after all when the numbers of membership increases you go using loudspeakers to tell the world of God's blessings over your religious organization .
Like one of your brother states that your religious organisation have God's backing earlier on this thread despite all their shortcomings and the numerous unwholesome stuff he mentioned, he said their population keeps increasing in Nigeria.
I adopted his reasonable and pragmatic thinking by comparison with what the Catholics had done all over the years......
See what had been written about Catholic... .........
Catholicism is the largest denomination, comprising just over half of Christians worldwide.
Catholicism is the most evil institution on the planet. They killed millions of people in their inquisitions in the earlier centuries.
Catholicism is the largest branch of Christianity with 1.345 billion, and the Catholic Church is the largest among churches.
In terms of numbers PRAGMATIC and REASONABLE people like you would come and tell us that they don't have God's backing based on membership population or not better than your religious organisation

Only if you could just be reasonable once in your life.

Templee333, are you sure that you can find and know about the true God by attending different cults?

If you really want to know about God and his Messiah, you should start studying the Bible, God's word.
That's very essential for your salvation John 17:3.

Dear curse,
Please could you tell me a religion organisation that its head doesn't control the other members?

achorladey:
Personal experience . In their quest to feel good that no better religious organization exists . Many left to even set up religious organization even in Nigeria.
Awon personal experience. God is not a property of a religious organisation that came into existence +/-140 years ago.
Ask Janosky, telling us christendom too uses JEHOVAH in their worship and he will still come back with MaxInDHouse to tell us that only una religious organization uses JEHOVAH in their worship to God. Wetin dem dey call this kind reasoning?

Sorry sir! Na reasonable people we need here.
You shouldn't just crawl out of your hole and start spewing out rubbish.

Do you hava a better replacement for JW?

JW org still remains the only Christian group pragmatically following Jesus teachings and God's words.

MaxInDHouse:
So Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers, to equip his people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up! Ephesians 4:11-12
What makes up the materials used in building the church of Christ?
Apostles
Prophets
Evangelists
Pastors
Teachers
So was Jesus talking about a literal building?

O dára kí èyán ní òye o

MaxInDHouse:
No wahala nah on top Peter head he go build am!

That guy dumb aswear

MaxInDHouse:
What are the teachings of this your church because nobody knows your church and Jesus promised that his own Church will be noticed like the house built on the mountain top {Matthew 5:14-16} you can't just say anything to deceive people here we must know that your mushroom church first before you can question the Church that everyone can SEE!

The first one is : you must not take drugs and herbs when sick.
You will go to hell fire if you use them.

Curse don't be quick to quote me. I would not reply nor read your stories.

oteneaaron:
Lol
You don't even know what you're talking about.
Wait until you get baptized, then let the Elders in your congregation and your Circuit Overseer see what you just typed above.
Freewill and Jehovah's Witnesses cannot exist in the same sentence - you are all captives of a concept.

We can say the same for every other Christian denominations.

You atheists are the ones captured with wrong concept.

oteneaaron:
MaxInDHouse, Janosky and Cornelboy are active Jehovah's Witnesses who have been caught on Nairaland breaking an explicit commandment given to them by by their Governing Body.
If you think I am lying, see the video below where David Spleen, one of their cult leaders gave them a very clear command:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFoSkifjNBk
Jehovah's Witnesses are NOT allowed to come on discussion forums like Nairaland to argue with, or converse with "APOSTATES".
WHY?
Cult Leader David Spleen calls it spiritual poison.
MaxInDHouse, Janosky and Cornelboy - why are you disobeying the Governing Body?
You know that if your activities on Nairaland get exposed, you will be in serious trouble and this could eventually lead to your been disfellowshiped.
Why are you willfully swallowing "Spiritual poison"?
Templee333 thank you for this thread and please do continue sharing your experience.
Courz continue exposing them wotowoto

That's an evidence that JWs don't follow the governing body blindly, they do things out of free will like everyone else. But guided by the TRUTH.

What's your business if JWs don't follow the advice of the GB about apostates?

We are here to defend our faith and help the innocent ones.

Alexxx2000:
Hi boss. Please can you please unquote my acct no and edit the bolded name on your previous post? Please.

Alright.

See curse, if your interested to join a cult, your free to do so. It's your life. It's your choice.

It's crazy when you guys point out problems without any solutions.

Okay JWs is a cult, so which Christian org is not a cult? Catholic?

Do you even know who a Christian is?
The JWs are the only ones doing close to what the early Christians practised.

Lol. How would a sane person leave JW.org and go to Catholic?
It's crazy.
From Jehovah to Holy Mary?
Sounds ridiculous.

Na this kind thread athiest dé like follow
Op abeg continue the story. I wan know why you comot the org.

From my personal experience, you can't leave JW.org and still believe in God, you'd rather become an athiest or stop attending any church.

Jerryhare:
Even Jesus Christ is a great physician, did he make use of traditional herbs to heal the woman having an issue of blood? Is divine healing through Christ Jesus an abomination in your occult religion?
Mention the name of those physicians and quote where they apply traditional herbs for healing since you are no more following Jesus steps but traditional herbalist footsteps?
Bible says Jesus Christ gave his disciples authority to drive out impure spirits and to heal every disease and sickness without applying traditional herbs. Did the disciples follows the footsteps of Jesus Christ or NOT? if prayers and divine healing is not working till today, the disciples ought to have applied traditional herbs for healing
You need to find Jesus Christ for you TO HAVE PEACE

You should just show us from the Bible where God condemned the use of herbs and drugs for our healing. If there's no verse then it's not a sin to use herbs and drugs.
So whatever you say is just your subjective opinion.

And also tell us the disciples of Jesus today, that can do miracles, heal chronic diseases, raise the dead etc.

Jerryhare:
Do you know that Before his conversion, Paul initially opposed the followers of Jesus and vehemently sought to end the spread of the Gospel.
Open the Below link to read more on this:
https://www.biblestudytools.com/bible-stories/the-apostles-healing-in-acts.html

Luke 8:43
[43]And a woman having an issue of blood twelve years, which had spent all her living upon physicians, neither could be healed of any,

The above Bible verse is a proof that there are physicians (doctors) during the time of Jesus in Israel.

Those physicians in Israel definitely used medicinal herbs and plants to treat their patients.

In Old and New testament, nowhere it is written that Jews were healed from their diseases and sicknesses with the use of traditional herbs.

It wasn't written down in the Bible doesn't mean it didn't happen.

At least we know that there were physicians in Israel before and after Jesus time on earth.

Jesus called his twelve disciples to him and gave them authority to drive out impure spirits and to heal every disease and sickness without applying traditional herbs

Where are the 12 disciples today?
Where did Jesus condemn natural use of herbs for healing?

Jerryhare:
I thought you waved bye bye, did you learn how to engage a traditional herbalist from the Bible, did Jesus Christ taught you how to use herbs for healing since he is not capable to heals all sicknesses?

They are a lot of things we do that we didn't learn them from the Bible.
For example, washing our teeth, applying lotions to our body, relaxing our hair, working out etc.

Jesus didn't use herbs or drugs for his illness doesn't mean we can use them.
At least he never condemned consulting a physician or the use of herbs and drugs.

And the last time I checked, the last healing miracle Jesus did was before his death.

After the death of the apostles of Christ, who has been healing Christians all over the world till today?

And before Jesus came to the world, who had been healing the Jews and the Israelites?

Why didn't Paul faith heal Timothy of his stomach illness, why prescribe alcohol for him?

Using herbs and drugs for my wellbeing is not sin.

May you find peace!

Jerryhare:
Because you're ignorant to comprehend simple sentence
Must I follow your same way by engaging traditional herbalist for healing even if I fall sick Or is it a must I take medicines because I am not feeling fine?
Bye bye too from here

I understand that you don't take medications but tagging the use of herbs and drugs for people's treatment as sin is totally wrong.

Jerryhare:
I've answered all these your questions, you can read over and over again for better understanding

Seems you don't have something tangible to bring here
What have you been using to treat your illness? Abi you no dé fall sick?
Bye bye.

Jerryhare:
Jesus Christ whom you said you're following while others are politicians never use traditional herbs for healing

Psalms is not traditional herbs, Psalms is the word of God, so using Psalms for prayers, healing and blessings is not a sin.

Bible says “Learn not the way of the heathen.” so if pagans, shamans, muslims and other spiritual traditions uses traditional herbs for healing, must you follow their ways, are you not a Christian?

God created herbs not for what you're using it for, you've read it here with some Bible verses what he created herbs for

ANTIISLAM is a Brother and I respect his contributions towards this

Who created the medicinal herbs?
And why can't well use it to treat our illness?

Can't we use drugs too because they are made from herbs?

Jerryhare:
The is the reason why, Shaman, pagan, and other spiritual traditions have used herbs in one way or another, sInce none of these traditional herbal frameworks are found in the Old or New Testament, Christians must stay away from it

Which verse in the Bible command against the use of of herbs for our healing?

I know some prophets in some churches that use the Bible especially the book of Psalms to do some fetish stuffs.
Does is it mean that we should stay from the Bible or stop reading the book of Psalms?

So if pagans, Shamans and other spiritual traditions make use of herbs for whatever purpose they use it for, does it mean that Christians can't use it for their good?

It's obvious that the highlighted is your subjective opinion. Or did you copy it from somewhere


Since herbs and other medicinal plants were created by God, it's no sin to use them for our good.

I hope your smarter than your comrade ANTIISLAM.

May you have peace!

MaxInDHouse:
Please do around 4pm today because i'll go for field Service.

I'll call you tonight.
Just seeing your post.

[quote author=ANTIlSLAM post=115734262][/quote]

But I asked you to differentiate between Onísègùn oyinbo (Medical doctor) and Onísègùn ibile (Traditional doctor), up till now you never answer this question

Didirin! A traditional doctor is also a medical doctor. They don't converse each other.
You can only differenciate between modern medical doctor and traditional medical doctor.

Are you asking me, do you have another ignorant brother here on NL that's showing his support for babaláwo, onisegun and adahunse with their traditional herbs?

Where exactly did MaxinDhouse say a Christian can consult babaláwos?
The last time I checked, oníṣèègùn is physician in English not BABALÁWO as you erroneously and repeatedly said.

Jesus Christ never taught to use any form of medications either in traditional ways or whatever ways to heal your sickness and diseases, get this into your brain

And he never said you shouldn't take medications.
Abeg your Bible say make we no take drugs and herbs for our health and upkeep?

He's a Divine healer, he is mighty to heal any diseases and sicknesses, he never used any form of herbs to healed anyone brought to him. I've explained to you times without number what he created herbs for. MAKE USE OF YOUR EYE

I never said he used herb or drug to heal anybody so?

How did the medicinal properties enter plants and herbs? Na Satan or Babaláwo put am there or God?

When she visited physicians why can't she be healed not until she met with Jesus Christ the great physician, did Jesus Christ applied any medicines or herbs before healing her? All you need is a little sense aswear

My point is Jesus never condemned medicine and physicians (doctors or oníṣèègùn).
Humans, herbs and drugs have thier limitations. No doubt.

I'm not a street boy like you guys in your occultist religion, JWs that believe more in traditional herbalist than Jesus Christ. I HAVE JESUS CHRIST the great Physician, my healer and not babaláwo, onisegun or adahunse

JWs actually believe in Jesus than any Christians sect. They are the only ones following Jesus teachings purely without falsehood.

I don't take drug and I'll never, Jesus Christ is there for me, he is my healer sogbo, let this get into your brain

Lol whatever suits you.
But do you think your cute little innocent kids shouldn't take medications or your lovely pregnant wife?

Your answer is here, those that have faith in him were healed!

Baba it's not about faith. It's bout God's power. One thing is faith, another thing is power through God's active force, the holy spirit.

Paul and some others did a lot of miracles and even healed some dead people.
You think there's anyone that could do that today?
You know any body that could raise the dead?

Miracles happening today are faked or staged. They ain't real man

https://dailypost.ng/2021/08/07/herbalists-kill-customer-for-alleged-money-ritual/
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2021/08/herbalists-sell-heart-of-man-seeking-money-ritual-for-n20000/
Here is herbal ritual that will help your career
https://www.kobo.com/ww/en/ebook/herbal-rituals

We don't do rituals ogbeni òde.
They are many reports about pastors engaging in bloody rituals I'm the news. Does it mean that every pastor engages in rituals?
If your answer is "NO", definitely not every herbalist does rituals or not not all of them is a Babaláwo.

I told you that I knew a nurse that was also a herbalist. Like she deals in medicinal herbs to treat her patients.

Shey na your colonial masters in USA tell you say traditional herbalist are not spiritist, demonic, etc abi

Ṣé modern herbalist tun wà ní?

Me and my family we don't consult babaláwo, onisegun or adahuse for our healing, Jesus Christ is our healer sogbo let it enter ur brain

Lol. Your wife and kids never consult a doctor before?
How's Jesus Christ healing you?
From where to where?

Your traditional herbalist will soon use you for ritual
Continue patronising them, they will soon use you for money ritual sogbo

Hope you've learned a lot

MaxInDHouse:
I've been trying your number since three days ago!

You were trying to call me?
I think there's nothing wrong with my line.
Can I call you?

[quote author=Alexxx2000 post=115786494][/quote]Hi

[quote author=ANTIlSLAM post=115713440][/quote]

Truth is hitting you too hard, just relax you'll get sense las las.. So I should grow up by supporting the act of your idolism in which you take babaláwo more than Jesus Christ abi?

Is it my fault that you don't know the difference between Babaláwo and herbalist?

ÀBÚRÒ ÌYÀWÓ BABALÁWO's husband is a typical traditionalist, your brother said it in his super story that I shared with you maybe you get eye problems for not able to read that. He never claimed to be a Christian so stop saying what you don't know

Who Max?

I've shown you several times what herbs is use for Biblically, if your sight organ is not working properly, please consult your second sister's husband, the babaláwo.

You should also show me where the Bible explains how herbs could be processed into drugs and stuffs used today in hospitals?
Are you saying it's a sin to used medications cos it wasn't mentioned in the Bible?
Mr well learned, herbs can be used for treatment. No doubt.

God never said he created herbs for your healing and deliverance, he has power to heal your sicknesses and diseases without the use of traditional herbs, so stop twisting the Word of God to suit your ignorant

Lol. How many people is God healing today?
Yet there are many Christians dying of various diseases. Where's this your God?
So going to modern hospital too na sin abi?

This is what Bible says about the usefulness of herbs, stop twisting the word of God to suit your ignorant

So where did it say herbs can't be used to cure disease? No be God create medicinal herbs and plants?

EVEN THE JEWISH DON'T BELIEVE IN TRADITIONAL HERBS FOR HEALING SINCE GOD CAN HEAL

I never said God can't heal.
Didn't common sense tell you that the Jews had their traditional way of treating sick people?

Didn't the Israeli woman with the issue of blood for several years consult physicians (doctors) before she touched the hem of Jesus' garment and got healed?

Jesus Christ healed every sick person brought to him without using or applying traditional herbs, he has power to heal all sicknesses and diseases

So do you have a Jesus in your street that's healing you?

You better take herbs and drugs before you die of illness.

How many COVID-19 patients were healed by Jesus or entrepreneurs disguising as men of God through 2020 till now?

The more you can visit traditionalist for your healing and deliverance, you're a sinner

I can visit a herbalist herbalist that just deals with herbs and it's not a sin.

Where Does Herbalism Come From?

Herbs come from God.

If you research herbal medicine for any length of time, you’ll likely come across ideas that clash with Christianity. Nature worship, witchcraft, occult practices, and more are all connected with herbalism.

A Christian can only consult someone that deals with herbs and not spiritist.

Jeremiah 10:2 “Learn not the way of the heathen.”

Okay when your siblings get sick, don't take them to the hospital or consult a herbalist. You should just lock them in their room and start praying from morning to night.
After two months of unanswered prayers and the person dies you will learn in a hard way

Shaman, pagan, and other spiritual traditions have used herbs in one way or another, sInce none of these traditional herbal frameworks are found in the Old or New Testament, Christians must stay away from it

They use herbs for evil purposes or in any way doesn't mean I can't personally use herbs.

Even today, the vast majority of professional herbalists and herbal teachers are not professing Christians.

Anybody can be whatever they want.

Their faiths, or lack thereof, might range from more familiar religions like Islam, Hinduism, or Buddhism to lesser-known systems like witchcraft, nature worship, paganism, atheism, etc

See you didn't need to copy from that guy's post na.
I don read am before

If past pagan cultures used herbs for healing and ritual, and if the herbalism of today is so steeped in anti-Christian teachings, then HERBALISM IS SINFUL, stay away from it!

See I don't care what some other people use herbs for. I can use herbs for my treatment it's not sin.

I am already in peace with my Lord, Jesus Christ. It's you, your friend that's arguing blindly here, your colonial masters in your occultist religion, JWs and all your members that needs to be at peace with God, stop running after babaláwo for healing and deliverance

No you haven't found it.
You will find it when you calm down and agree that a Babaláwo is different from a herbalist.

Rosrozz:
hi

Hi
What's up?