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Mufakirnaqdiun:
Are we robot,and did I create my enemy?
Mtcheww.

Lol. You didn't answer my question.

Were/are you a Muslim?

Broveens42:
Lol you have made the biblical character a liar
He told his disciples... to handle him for a spirit does not have flesh and bones... The implication of that statement is that He had flesh...
Is English language so difficult to understand?
You have become more confused by religion that you make statements like: "raised as Human with a spirit not flesh ... "hahahaha

If you don't understand ask questions.

[quote author=Righthussle post=116278412][/quote]Lol. Sango worshippers no dé die?

Mufakirnaqdiun:
Oboy Dem no murder reach the Bible God,lol.
That one na better mass murderer, weyrey drown em whole creation due to confusion.lol

What would you do if you create robots for some specific purposes and your enemy comes behind your back and infested some virus software on them, the robots start malfunctioning and everything turned into chaos and the situation is beyond repair?

MaxInDHouse:
Really appreciate your concern and the interest shown Sir.
First of all humans are flesh and the only way you can ascertain the existence of a living man is his physically ACTIVE body, this same goes with a spirit being. The only difference here is that spirits don't have physical bodies because they weren't created in the same form like humans who were made out of the dust of the earth {Genesis 2:7} but whenever they have an unfinished business with humans they make up a materialized body to become visible to humans. Genesis 6:1-4; 18:1-8; 32:24
Unlike all other descendants of Adam Jesus' life didn't begin here {John 8:23} he existed even before the creation of this earth {Proverbs 8:22-31; John 1:2; Colossians 1:15-16} after God transformed Jesus' life into an embryo in the womb of Mary and he was born as a human he knew he doesn't belong here so he never lived a normal human life of getting married and having children like everyone other person. So after completing his earthly assignment he said: "it is accomplished" {John 19:30} this is evidence that he is not just a man.
The body with which he lived as a man is what is needed to redeem mankind not the person himself so after those angels have carried off Jesus' body at his resurrection he returned to his former life as a spirit being only to appear and disappear at will just as the Israelites knew angels often do before then.
That's why in most cases his own disciples who knew him very well couldn't recognize him again not until he starts acting like the man they knew very well: Jesus! Luke 24:31
Before he died he said something that is very noteworthy:
“I still have many things to say to you, but you are not able to bear them now. However, when that one comes, the spirit of the truth, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak of his own initiative, but what he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things to come" John 16:12-13
His disciples are Jews who has been taken to other nations and gotten mixed thoughts about ghosts (living dead) from pagan nations so they can't fully understand what happened to their beloved master and friend Jesus, but after they became baptized with Holy Spirit {Act 2:1-4} the sacred secrets became clear to them and they found out that at his resurrection Jesus is no longer a human in the form of Adam but he has returned to his former life to become a life giving spirit! 1Corinthians 15:45
Thanks for your concern and may you have PEACE!

I learnt something in the second to the last paragraph.
So Jesus was not raised as a human with physical flesh but as a spirit being he was in heaven. That's perfect.

sonmvayina:
What does it mean ?

See if you have anything tangible to bring just bring it.

Was the Torah inspired by God or work of literature?

sonmvayina:
Very far.
You have not even set out for your own journey..

Your very far in what exactly?

sonmvayina:
Do you know the meaning of propaganda?

Yes

sonmvayina:
You won't go far with this close minded slave mentality..you don't really know anything...

So how far have you gone with your open minded mentality?

sonmvayina:
Believe??
It is/was not meant to be believed .
It was written to educate and inform..

Do you also think the Torah wasn't inspired by God but work of literature?

sonmvayina:
Which God??
Hahahaha, there is only one. Just the nomenclature that is different.
The yorubas call him Eledumare
The Igbos call him chukwu
The Bini's calls him Osanobua
The Egyptians (ancient) calls him Ra
The Sumerians calls him Marduk
The Jews calls him Hashem..
Etc...
I got to know through knowledge of self
And secondly from my heritage
Thirdly from studying different religions and cultures across the world.

You have a lot to learn bro.

All the tribes you mentioned except the Jews worship demons not the true God.

Only the Israelites knew the true God because God revealed himself to them and he proved to be the almighty God through mighty works.

It's the God of the Hebrew that we real Christians worship today.

OgaNightmare:
What evidence do you have to make such a bogus claim?
So you mean that throughout the centuries there has been no true worshiper?
That True Worshipers were only members of Russell's I.B.S.A movement with JW being one of the breakaway groups?
Remember Jesus parable about the weed and the wheat. The Weed will overpower the wheat but both will grow together until the harvest time.
That is when Christ comes and then we know who is who
Concerning the Bible portion I qouted, I think the article on JW.org gave a satisfactory explanation
Concerning this your statement:
"If it's not the JWs then Christianity, religion, Bible are scams. Everyone should stop believing in God."
*First and foremost the Bible you are holding contains a collection of books which was decided by the council of the Church fathers (the ones you called counterfeit Christian) to be part of Scripture.
*The name your bearing "JEHOVAH" was invented by a Catholic monk Raymond is Martini.
*The master text for the NWT is based on the works of Christendom scholars Wescott and Hort.
*The doctrine of 1914, 607, Invisible presence came from an Adventist evangelist Nelson Barbour.
And a whole lot of other things, what I'm trying to say is that we are indebted to each other.
WT organization can't claim absolute truth and knowledge when they are clearly benefitng from the hard work of others (who they term as Christendom).
No man is an ISLAND, a lot of teachings by the WTs were already believe by other people at some point in history.

Of course after the Rome took over the church, there was no longer pure worship and many man made doctrines were introduced and established in the church.

Every Christians on earth is being influenced by false doctrines of the Roman Catholic church one way or the other.

So people had been worshipping in falsehood not in TRUTH.

The JWs are the only real Christians strictly following Jesus teachings and commandments.

OgaNightmare:
Identifying with any man-made organization does not guarantee us salvation, that's the big mistake people make thinking that just being a member of a church is enough.
True Christians are identified not by wearing a crucifix or identifying with any denomination claiming to be the one and only
Christians are identified by their adherence to all of Christ's commandment and abstinence from anything that will prevent them from inheriting the kingdom.
Proclaiming a false goodnews (majority of the so-called Christian churches are guilty of this)
has grievous consequences. So we must be very careful of what we feed people with and make them believe.

So what guarantees our salvation?

sonmvayina:
Ok..Will find time. Or we can chat on WhatsApp, it will be easier there.
We can send voice notes and documents and files
0h ate oh tiri tiri sis ate tiri ate tiri sis..

I hear that you believe in the Torah, is that true?

sonmvayina:
Lol..now your asking the right question.
Are you willing to learn,
I am willing to learn from you if you are..
Open a thread, let us educate ourselves, we can understand each point. May be meet each other half way.

You can open it if your really interested.

MaxInDHouse:
I'm not a storyteller but a messenger of the Good News of God's Kingdom.
If you have been talking about other religions and no one came to refute the lies you're spewing that's because the god in such a religion is DEAD {Psalms 115:4-8} but as we JWs we worship JEHOVAH the living God so we can talk about pure worship if you ask questions not lies claiming you're Mr SUPERSTORY.
If you've been in the organization before others and you have your reservation it's normal but coming here to tell lies is evil!

His story don finish be that.

sonmvayina:
For good measure, I don't do religion.
I am a spirit having or dwelling within a physical body made from dust. ....just having a human experience.
I am part of God and God is part of me ..I guess in that case, "believe" does not apply.

Where did you get the idea that your a physical body made from dust and having a human experience?
And which god are you referring to?

sonmvayina:
What is the evidence for the existence of okonkwo from "things fall apart" ?
They are just literature, but in the case of the gospels, they where written with the intention to deceive.

What's your religion?
Do you believe in God?

OgaNightmare:
John:4.23
Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.

You didn't answer the question na.

The 12 disciples and the early church were the first true worshipers Jesus testified. They did worship God in spirit and truth, they preached the gospel to other places as Jesus commissioned them untill the Catholic took over the church by force.
The true worshipers were killed and pure doctrines of the church were distorted.

Now the JWs are here and are taking pure worship back as it were in the early church.
They are the true worshipers we have today.

If it's not the JWs then Christianity, religion, Bible are scams. Everyone should stop believing in God.

OgaNightmare:
You still have much to learn though

What's your religion na?

OgaNightmare:
The follow Jesus teachings and God's word but deny you the opportunity to become adopted sons of God.
Jesus is not your mediator, You can't partake during the Lord's evening meal, You're not born again, Majority of the texts in the NT don't apply to you.
Then how can you lay claim to the name "CHRISTIAN" or True follower of Christ?
Think again

Na God dé choose the sons wey é go adopt, no be watchtower or any person.
And the Bible say na just 144000 dem go be out of billions wey de earth.

Thank God you know they follow Jesus teachings and God's word.

See I understand all their doctrines. I'm more than halfway through the "enjoy life forever" book.

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It is just a story.

You have any evidence that proves your claim?

Nobody ever saw it happen.

Bring your proof sir!

If he was sent to die, who asked him to resurrect ?

The same person that sent him to die.

sonmvayina:
What was his condition for those 3 days..
(I know this story never happened, just checking )

He was dead. Unconscious.

(It happened).

sonmvayina:
Your delusion has gone super sonic...

Why'd you say that?

Did you want to say the Roman Catholic is the worst of all Christian organisation?

The Roman Catholics religion is the reason we have so many different Christian denominations today.

They are also the ones that distorted Bible truths and hinder pure worship to Jehovah God.

Hell simply means the grave.
Everyone eventually goes there after death.
Even Jesus was in hell for three days before God raised him back to life.

MaxInDHouse:
The worstest thing to be is an atheist!

He's one of the weak and foolish ones among you.

He might not know the worth of being among God's people 'cos he was born a JW. Everything seemed normal to him and he could keep up to Bible standards.

For me, it's worth everything. It's like finding a priceless treasure you've been searching for a long time.

Templee333:
okay,then, allow this thread to be in peace.

Pls could you finish your story about why you left the JW.org?

Templee333:
what is the truth?

Sorry I don't wanna discuss anything with you.

I believe that the Bible in whatever language it was written, is inspired by the creator of the universe and only the JWs have the accurate interpretation.

Good luck with your new found faith

MaxInDHouse:
Not so fast Mr Atheist.
You should be exposed first so all followers of your threads may know that you're not a believer. Just tell them plainly that you're an atheist and i (Maximus) will take my leave, but putting up useless, worthless and hopeless stories to lead naive ones away should not go unnoticed just as you've been doing to JWs ever since you came up with this moniker!

Lol. I didn't notice it's a new moniker.

You can't leave JW.org and still believe in God. Like where do you want to go and search for God and the TRUTH?

Templee333:
why not. U have to believe. Don't u knw that ur refusal to believe thn Koran makes u an atheist?

I didn't say I don't believe in God.
I believe the Koran was not inspired by the true God of Moses and Jesus.

So do you believe in the Bible as Jehovah's words?

Does it matter whether it's written in Greek or Hebrew or English?

Templee333:
The scripture they searched was not a delux/gray cover New World Translation. But u people continue to add & subtract frm the scripture though it tells u not to do so. Why did u have to translate the scripture frm its original Hebrew/Greek lang? Did ur almighty Jehovah not knw English when he inspired them in a now dead Hebrew lang?

Lol. Why would an almighty God inspire a Hebrew speaking individual in another language he wouldn't understand?
Was English language existing during those times or where did you keep your senses?

So which scriptures or translations of the Bible have you searched?