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drag_on: denel is partly owned by sa government.the fact that they make arms does not mean the sandf have them

Don't talk rubbish. Denel's sole shareholder is the government of South Africa. Denel's primary role is to supply the SANDF with weapons. The export business is only a secondary objective. It thrives because SA is not at war. If SA were at war, all the required weapons would be supplied chop chop to the SANDF.

Your argument only shows that you've accepted the superiority of Denel's products. Now you want to distance Denel from the SANDF. Well, you can't.

Fail.

Does Naai-geria even have a military analyst? Even I can see that Agaugust, at his age (he looks mid-40tish in the picture), will never be published.

saengine: Now it all makes sense. When someone even has the idea of shipping weapons to Nigerians living in SA its easy to understand their simple thought patterns. Ship AK's through where? Which port? Distribute them how? Haha.

So you'll invade us but admit you wont dedeat us on home soil? The point of invasion would be what then? To come find a nice spot to roast your troops? If you count your 11km artillery (Which makes a huge percentage of your guns) as superior then i wont judge you, i'll just laugh in silence. Yes lets stop this boring topic.

There's a reason why Naai-geria's best military analyst (i.e. Agaugust) hangs around a forum all day, claiming to be something he is not. Other analysts are busy being published and he is here

Makes sense though, looking at the "information" he spits out.

GidiNaijaPikin: The Boko Haram that CraigB and rookie Mike..ZA love to drool about.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-23245702

Four alleged members of the Islamist Boko Haram group have been sentenced to life for their role in bomb attacks that killed 19 people.

Anyway, where is the leader? 4 BH members arrested woo-hoo! That should stop BH dead in their tracks!

agaugust: go to page 115, page 103, and page 280 of this thread, and educate yourself. nigerian military is NOT an obsolete force, it is your knowledge that is very out-dated. also list south african artillery force side by side with nigeria, and get roasted in the process. thank you.

dont make my 'Bat' stand upright, its hibernating head down for a few more days. nigeria has capacity to invade south africa with 10 battalions of mechanized troops, but south africa CANNOT invade nigeria.

https://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/320/5/2/sleeping_bat_by_little_miss_cute-d4ge820.png

We hope the bat will come back with his MBA.

GidiNaijaPikin: AndrewZA wants to justify the actions of the SANDF soldiers as mere numbers and statistics? What happened to the so called professional SANDF soldiers? We (I personally) know the facts! Blaming DRC or the UN or the AU for the atrocities of your troops is not a surprise! In the books of SA, SAns are never responsible for anything wrong, like this link attempts to insinuate: http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2013-06-14-peacekeepers-behaving-badly-why-south-african-ill-discipline-in-drc-is-a-un-problem

My promise to provide a dossier of the real state of SA's educational establishments has not been forgotten. Certain sensitive materials have to be used wisely. Just remain calm.

Of course it's an issue of numbers and stats. And you can hardly call them atrocities. The US itself has badly behaving soldiers. The question is whether the soldiers get disciplined or not; as well as how many incidences there are. Your article doesn't change that.

And your so-called dossiers come from South Africans anyway. So they are hardly dossiers. We generate the reports that you present as "discoveries" here.

In this instance, your report doesn't help you much. It helps South Africa. See what it says below:

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Like Heitman, he believes the length of time in which these abuses took place must be taken into account.

“This in effect means that only 0.06% of all SA soldiers deployed were convicted of misconduct,” Greef says. “On average, less than two soldiers per year on deployment.”

He believes these statistics are actually favourable to the SANDF. “This is in fact an excellent military discipline record, by the standards of any military force including those of super powers like the United States,” he says.

GidiNaijaPikin: Everyone would have thought it was your pasttime being up and about every comment on Nairaland. Now recycler-in-chief CraigB is abdicating his playground for work? How times change! I told you I want to help you waste your time. So much of an unprecedented offer of "good" you are getting from this side of the debate? So funny how for the very first time I have used these emoticons a couple of times in the past few hours. It must mean a lot!!

Do you have a crush on me or what?

GidiNaijaPikin: You reckon?

Look - you're becoming chatty. This is a forum. You need to chat to someone else. I'd rather do my work.

GidiNaijaPikin: Don't be too fast for yourself! Comment fully and truly about your South Africa first before coming here to feel like a Nigerian! Those your new Smart IDs ... you don't want to know how many have been earmarked for "us". Think outside the box if you know what I mean! South Africa!!!!

Is that so? Ok, that's good to know. Says a lot about the state of your existence, doesn't it? Brings perspective to everything being said on this thread.

GidiNaijaPikin: You must be so drained and strained by now! Why not throw your lapdogs into the fray as usual? You know what I mean?

Drained by what? I am in a perfect timezone and am walking about typing on my handheld. Why would I be drained?

You're the one that's not sleeping.

GidiNaijaPikin: No new material in your comments.

How could there be when I'm commenting to the same stuff time and again?

GidiNaijaPikin: More and more delusions! I am enjoying the moment. You are learning fast. The Nigerian in you is blossoming. You sabi cram pidgin no be small. It was President Jonathan's uniform ... what next? I told you I've got some free time to spend to help you waste your time! Na you go tire!

It's great that you see me as a Naai-geerian. That means I can comment freely about the state of the country you've deemed me a part of. Thank you.

GidiNaijaPikin: How does my liberty to laugh concern you.

Oh, you're free to laugh. Chances are you don't realise that this has become your fall-back argument when you have nothing else to say.

You pretend that there's something funny, when there really isn't. It's a phrase that you've overused.

GidiNaijaPikin: There's so much you are not saying about that neighbourhood of yours! It's your prime time and life ticking away as you keep asking those empty questions ... whereas your mates are making good use of their youthful age. We still have a deal remember?

The point being what? As All4Naija, you've spoken my neighbourhood to death. Don't be upset if you can't answer "fo*lish" CraigB's questions, which you clearly can't ignore.

GidiNaijaPikin: I can't hold back my heavy laughter

If I counted the number of times you responded to people like this, whether in your capacity as All4Naija or NaijaPigoon, I'd be a millionaire by now. That's when you are flush out of words. You go: "I laugh". "People will laugh". "I laugh my belle gon burst". Typical Naai-jeria.

Looks like we're done discussing anything now and it's about discussing CraigB. Ok - I like that too. Attention can only be a good thing.

You have no constitutional argument. Give it a rest.

GidiNaijaPikin: Folly that made you think that Jonathan had hijacked his uniform

Of course he did. No constitutional support for his conduct. You still haven't pulled out the relevant provision of the constitution. No previous military training, either. Naai-geria is just "loose" about issues of civilian rule. It has a tradition of "looseness" in that regard, as you so perfectly put it earlier.

GidiNaijaPikin: Anything to have an opposing point of view goes well for boy CraigB! You seem to challenge a lot without making any factual point of note. Empty Castle Lite bottle!

If you don't have answer, don't waste your life away trying to analyse CraigB.

We aren't going to sit and eat up your fufu or whatever it is you people eat there in Logoz (Hillbrow in your case), just because you say so

Questions will be asked of you lot, seeing as you like throwing statements about.

hunter2,1:
Guy, even in the united states military, there are alqeeda sympatizers and they had a lot of moles during the cold war.
The fact that we are able to catch up with them is what speaks for our intelligence community.
If you guys in SA have never caught a mole(with the amount of spies and diaspora population we have there) then your intelligence agencies should come and learn from us.

Too long a story to a short question.

How does he know that ALL the guilty officers have been caught, as he alleges?

Henry120: However, all of those officers have been caught and court-martialled by the army.

Really? You know this how?

We have ourselves a Nigerian Sangoma here.

GidiNaijaPikin: When you are able to define the word "tradition"

Then say that! That's all you should've done. Say it's "tradition" and be happy.

Don't give us long arguments that don't hold water. Constitution blah blah blah.

Tradition! Simple. End of story.

Hezron Lorraine: Don't you peeps get tired of replying all these ignorant post at times.
@craigB,u act like an adult baby at times with your silliness,

An adult baby that is not being ignored? Why are you people falling over yourselves to respond if I am talking nonsen*se?

There must be something in my posts that hits very close to home, then. Non?

Everytime you argue with a fo*l, you become one. So which one is it? All you people are foo*lish alongside CraigB or perhaps, CraigB is not such a fo*l afterall. He just says things you hate to hear. Things that you all cannot dispute, by the way. So you have resorted to pointing out CraigB's supposed idi*cy. A situation I am much amused by, by the way . It's very encouraging.

I don't expect to be crowned as the nerd of Naai-raland. Not by Naai-jerians anyway, seeing as I am tuning them straight . I am here to blog. End of story.

NaijaPikinGidi: Certainly a South African trait. Your SANDF must be smiling away with millions and visas from the US?

Read the info in the link below for a Brig. General O. Azinta.
http://beegeagle./2013/07/06/highlights-of-the-nigerian-army-day-celebrationnadcel-2013-summarised-by-beegeagle/

South African Naai-ralanders don't have denial issues.

So what is this then - if your military cannot be bribed?

http://www.spacewar.com/2004/041119164120.xon13cod.html

Nigerian navy officers bribed as oil tanker shiponed: court

Nigerian navy officers were offered a huge bribe to look the other way while crude oil was siphoned off a Russian oil tanker and replaced by water, a court martial has been told.
Junior naval officer, Solomon Attam, told the seven-member court martial the crude oil in the tanker, MT African Pride, was emptied and replaced with water.

Unnamed superior officers offered him and his three colleagues one million naira (7,500 dollars) to look the other way as the deed was happening, he said.

zaandrew: Realy. That strange because typacaly even if you kill a leader a new one pops up. So there is a leader.

Ag, don't tell me you thought he was being serious. It's obvious they can't find the leader. Upwards of 3000 refugees later. Still no BH leader.

chris365: you refuted this report with this senseless response


then


which is a justified question since your response simply means shekau's faction has begged for mercy before. then you had to finally dodge your head by still sounding S.TUPID.


see how you tried to confuse yourself? it's not a must to respond to a post. especially if you lack common sense.

mind you, the ceasefire you talked about was proposed by another faction and not shekau's faction. see why i said it's a waste of time arguing with you?

go and check the meaning of S.TUPID along with your comments on this thread, then yyou'll know that i never insult you by calling you what you are... S.TUPID

am done talking to an empty head.

Chris, these are pure Okwonkwo tendencies.

LOOK


Boko Haram 'commander' declares ceasefire

Purported member of armed group says truce reached after meetings with government, but public scepticism remains high.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2013/01/2013129111721386179.html


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http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jSdTF2S_VMUVv431UHeR-MDYkOuA?docId=CNG.2d213cbdce69fd3ebcad11618485101b.41

Boko Haram leader denies ceasefire in beheading video
(AFP) – Mar 5, 2013
KANO, Nigeria — The suspected leader of Nigerian Islamist group Boko Haram denies any ceasefire deal with the government in a video obtained Tuesday in which a man accused of being an informant appears to be beheaded on camera.
Abubakar Shekau also makes no mention of kidnappings in the video, including last month's abduction of seven members of a French family in neighbouring Cameroon that was blamed on his group.


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http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/03/boko-haram-shekau-denies-ceasefire-dialogue-with-fg/


Boko Haram: Shekau denies ceasefire, dialogue with FG

on March 03, 2013 / in News 12:18 pm / Comments


BY NDAHI MARAMA, Maiduguri

…Denies Sheikh Abdulazeez, threatens more attacks in Yobe, Borno, Bauchi, others…
The leader of Islamist sect, Boko Haram, Abubakar Shekau, has denied the purported cease fire and dialogue with the federal government of Nigeria by his group.

- See more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/03/boko-haram-shekau-denies-ceasefire-dialogue-with-fg/#sthash.Ob2mvQGS.dpuf

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You are dreaming. I even said clearly that your without the leader, your ceasefire isn't worth the paper it's written on. Clearly this has happened before. So I don't see what your issue is . Useless ceasefires have happened before. You need the leader.Not these so-called generals or whatever they are

And you are being an Okonkwo.

jumping to conclusions. You can't debate.

GidiNaijaPikin: "Security agencies".

He said, “The Armed Forces are overstretched due to the many security challenges confronting the country.”

http://www.punchng.com/news/insurgency-overstretching-security-agencies-senate/

GidiNaijaPikin: You fail to get my point! You claim we are overstretched ... and my point is to make you to realise that we have not even scratched the surface of our full military capacity internally and externally. Enjoy your mistake!

http://www.punchng.com/news/insurgency-overstretching-security-agencies-senate/

"While presenting the report to the Senate, Chairman of the joint committee, Senator George Sekibo, stated that the insurgents had overstretched the security agencies, necessitating an increase in the size of the Armed Forces."


"He said, “The Armed Forces are overstretched due to the many security challenges confronting the country.” "

solomon111: oboi,you no get work.

Ok. Solomon. Eitherway, goodbye.

I bid you adieu.

I use my gloved hand and military sword

GidiNaijaPikin: Recycler-In-Chief CraigB.

Recycled until you produce the provision. People that have been caught in a lie should not be allowed to get off easy.

GidiNaijaPikin: And what's your point? You are yet to figure yourself out ... go on to others when you can sort your brains out. I having goon fun on your account my boy.

I like the way you behave. I have come to predict it. You start off by arguing. Then you lose. Then you bring out matric and Seleka. Then you lose. Then you bring out tired one-lines. Then you lose.

Then I leave.

solomon111: This craigb of a guy is an evidence of stupiditty in the large population of SAns.
I mean how can someone keep making ignorant statements about a country he knows little about, despite repeated correction.

You mean quoting a constitutional provision that doesn't exist is correction? Ok, if you say so.

Funny. The so-called stupid South Africans have built a country far better than Naai-geria. How could that be? Luck? Hmmm. I wonder.

Ok. I do need to get back to work now.

Chow now...

GidiNaijaPikin: In the mind of a clueless and senseless CraigB. I'm sure that sums it all up! Very interesting!

You one-line does a great job at showing how full of sense you are. Well done.