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Kandeed:
I was shocked to know and see Nigeria to possess series of surface to air missile system in different part of MMIA when I once visited a wing commander of the Nigerian Airforce in Lagos

Don't mind those illiterates please. It's because of Israel's exploits in Gaza (which has no military) that is making them run their mouths. There's no way a country like Nigeria wouldn't have AA weapons even if they are not enough to protect the entire country.

AntiChristian:
I think I categorically mentioned "Sahih hadith" and not just Hadith/Ahadith! You need to read more in between the lines. Sahih means authentic. Whatever is thrown away is not Sahih.

How many of the authentic ones have you worked on? I think you should answer what the Qur'an meant by saying "obey Allah and His messenger" several times?




I have told you to move closer to Scholars who can explain the ahadith to you in details.

I will give you a similitude in the Qur'an with three verses about intoxicants (Wine, etc.) , the first two permits it while the last one forbids it. Is there any contradiction in them?

They ask you about wine (khamr) and gambling. Say, "In them is great sin and [yet, some] benefit for people. But their sin is greater than their benefit."
Qur'an 2:219

"O you who acknowledge, Do not go near prayer, (Salat) while you are stupified (under influence), until you know what you are saying"
Qur'an 4:43

O you who have believed, indeed, intoxicants (khamr), gambling, [sacrificing on] stone altars [to other than God], and divining arrows are but defilement from the work of Satan, so avoid it that you may be successful.
Qur'an 5:90

Sometimes, a verse is explained by another verse while at other times a verse may abrogate another verse! This happens many times in the Qur'an and hadith. You need to search for the knowledge.

When I say Hadith, I'm referring to Sahih hadiths and yes, to even compare "Sahih" Hadiths with the Qur'an is an abomination because we are still talking about words ATRIBUTED to those who claimed to have heard the Sahaba saying something about what the prophet said.


I also clearly said that I do not reject the Hadiths but those that contradict/undermine the Qur'an.

Let's analyze this explanation of yours now.

In the first 2 verses, Allah says that the cost outweighs the benefit and that we should refrain from doing it before Salat. We can say the same about other sins of the world. For example, stealing has the benefit of worldly gains but it's bad. HOWEVER, THE VERSE DOES NOT IN ANY WAY TELL US TO DRINK unlike in the case of the Hadiths where one says IT'S FINE to do something and another says it's not.


I have many other ridiculous ones too. I know those that claimed pandemics can never enter Makkah and Madina but thanks to Corona, they have been proven to be false. There are also those that said the sun prostrate before Allah even though the Qur'an said a different thing. I know those that depicted Moses (AS) as the superior of prophet Muhammad and even suggested that he knows better than Allah (when the so-called 50 daily prayers were reduced to 5)

These so-called Sahih Hadiths are no Sahihs. I wasn't so sure as at when I created this thread but now, I'm fully convinced.

Let that happen. Even Hitler will condemn what we'll do to them.

Even Hitler will condemn what we'll do to them since the 1967-1970 memory has eluded them.

Mangekyo:
Trash! I can't recall how many times the army bodly came out and said that shekau had been wasted. On the long run, he always came out to debunk it. Boko haram was defeated before 2016 but the zoo military kept sending soldier to the north to fight who exactly? Almost on a daily basis did we wake up to see news like "Boko haram fighters kill nine soldiers after they attacked base with several guntrucks".
Note: that boko haram never attacks with Real tanks. The best they can attack with are with gun trucks, yet our military always pee their pants at the very sight of them.

Countries like Isreal, their ground troops won't attack you with mere gun trucks or just armored vehicles, but rather tanks. You struggled as hell when you went toe to toe with less trained militants with guntrucks, what makes you think you'd even stand a chance against more skilled and well equipped soldiers with tanks in Israeli military personnels?

the difference is, we don't hear Sudden news like "Isis fighters kills 10 us soldiers in a surprise attack". Theyve been defeated and have returned to their caves. FACT!

Lol I never mentioned hamas into the argument. Those guys are as weak as Nigeria if not even stronger than Nigeria.
I'm talking about Israel's battle against the Arabs nations who joined together to attack Israel but failed,threy suffered a humiliating defeat. I'm not even sure if they've gotten over with it

Nigeria doesn't stand a chance at all. You should try convincing me or try enlighting me more on how that brain of yours think we do stand a chance

*yawns*

Last last, Israel will have to beg for their sons' release and Kanu will continue languishing in jail. Good night

Mangekyo:
What a clown. Okay so because USA couldn't do shit against Vietnam now mean a zoo like Nigeria can go and repeat history?

Abdul, it's ridiculous how that Abōki brain of your actually thinks a zoo like Nigeria would stand or last more than a few seconds against a country that single handedly defeated a united Arab abokey nations. Defeating and crippling their military. Look, Isreal lost no more than 800 soldiers, while their opponents lost nothing less than 10k men minimum.

Nigeria doesn't even compare to Egypt. Egypt teamed up with other nations and were defeated as if they were Nigeria. Ridiculous how your brain thinks Nigeria is actually doing shit.

Oh lol, I don't think they'd be any need of deploying a nuclear weapon to get the job done, son.

It would be as easy as ABC. Isreal attacks with their navy team. They Launch countless missiles with their submarines into Lagos. Takes over Lagos and the airport, and then deploys in tanks into the zoo through the airport. All happening under 2hours or even less lol

It's meant to educate you because I can see that you are brainless. You think war is all about having paper advantages when world history is there for any dumbo to consult. Is the difference between USA and Vietnam not greater than the difference between Nigeria and Israel?

If not an Inyamuri idiot and his usual madness, who has ever heard about a nation winning a war in 5 hours? That's the most stupid thing I've ever heard but I'm not surprised, it's coming from the same fools that were waiting for Donald Trump to divide Nigeria for them

I won't say anything about the Israeli wars again since you have chosen to be daft as usual. Whenever Israel faces any nation without American financial assistance or ammunition then we can talk.

That you are comparing a country which was still in he clutches of western powers with the Nigeria of 2021 is yet another indication that you are not just a fool but one that is out of his mind. Well, let me tell you some fun facts. As at 1967;

Britain was far stronger than China
Iraq was better than Iran
France was militarily stronger than India

I hope you are not in any way ever going to be considered for leadership position in biafran army because this is the most bizarre analysis I've ever seen. You don't even know where the capital of Nigeria is located.

But since it's a video game, here's my own: Nigeria sends 18 DSS spies to Pakistan who will hack their systems and launch a nuclear warhead to Israel. EOD

I'm done dealing with this clown

Mangekyo:
You are talking trash! Any competent military would've defeated boko haram under a few years. It's been 10years now and these terrorists still get the better of us.
Wasn't it the ISWAP that entered Sambisa forest the other day and killed shakau, dismantling all his men and left as if nothing even happened? Your shitty army knew all along that the terrorist resided in those forest but couldn't man up and go get the job done lmfao it's very shameful.

Isreal won't need the help of USA to decimate a zoo like Nigeria, trust me. Maybe you should tell me how Nigeria is actually standing a chance because I barely think it's even going to be a battle. Israel pummels, bullies and dominates from start to finish!

Anybody that looks at the activities of boko haram between 2012 and 2016 will agree that they have been defeated. During those days, nobody in the north was living at peace. They were taking over entire LGs and bombing areas on a DAILY bases all over Northern Nigeria. The kind of defeat you are looking for (total eradication) has never been easy for any "competent " military in the world. Your US went to Afghanistan with the aim of wiping them out and ended up going against their doctrine of not negotiating with terrorists. The combination of Us, Russia, Syria, Kurdish Fighters, Iraq, etc are still facing ISIS till date even though ISis has been defeated. You guys don't pay attention to reality.

ISWAP as a group member will naturally have more information on Shekau's wearabouts than soldiers. How many years did it take USA to find Bin Laden? Lol. I love using USA to open your eyes since you think Nigeria is the worst thing in the world.


How many wars has Israel fought for you to be saying this trash about how she fights? Bombing a territory that has no army, no autonomy, and no allies (and killing far more civilians than Hamas fighters) is no sign of strength. But hopefully, a day will come when Israel will face Iran without the west to save their asses.

Mangekyo:
You're a clown if you think Nigerian Military would last more than 5hours against the Israeli military.
Maybe you haven't heard of how they defeated your abokey brothers from the Arab nations who all joined their forces together but still couldn't do shit.
Isreal have long range missiles that can they can shoot thousands of kilometers away.

Like I said, Israeli can dismantle and decimate Nigeria within the twinkling of an eye. A few nuclear weapons should do the trick

Who is this fool? I just finished addressing this noise about the 6-day war. Theres nothing soecial about a country backed by a superpower defeating a disunited group of countries that had recently gained independence. They should have repeated that feat against Hezbollah in 2006

And where in the world have you ever heard about a country beating another in 5 hours? You remind me of how USA was so confident about easily beating Vietnam or about Nigeria vs Biafra. If Israel uses Nuclear weapons on Nigeria, it will only lead to global proliferation of such weapons and I promise you, Israel wouldn't last another decade before one of its enemies drop one on them and annihilate them so they wouldn't try it.

observanc1:
be there and be deceiving yourself. Did u read or watched how isreal went all over the world and killed all those that killed isreali athletes in "Black September"? Do u see how they have been killing iranian scientists involved in iran nuclear project?
Hezbollah in lebanon. The same Lebanese economy that has completely crumbled?
Do u know that if u engage isreal in war that u have technically engaged US in same.
U cant fight boko haram, northern bandit and fulani terrorists, u want to fight isreal. Goodluck to u.

What's so special in carrying out assassinations? In fact, that the world is even hearing about it means they are not good enough. Rescue missions are entirely different from assassinations and abductions (which even female agents can carry out). Nigeria could have easily assassinated Namdi Kanu in Kenya so there's nothing super about it.

Secondly, do bandits and boko haram fight directly? You guys should learn a few things about warfare rather than coming here with your Hollywood fantasies. USA battling Nigeria for the sake of Israel will only add to its ruined international reputation and set the citizens against them. Also, since you know that Israel needs the backing of NATO why do you love hyping it?

GodHatesBigots:
Hatred for ?

You think they will allow their citizens to be tortured or detained indefinitely ?

You hate your own country. That's a fact.


They won't allow their citizens to be tortured, but the best thing they can do is to seek diplomatic approach which may or may not work. If US citizens could be held and tortured by third world Asian countries, who is Israel? Lol. The irony is that they have been capturing and even killing citizens of other nationals illegally and you are here ranting.

GodHatesBigots:
The Ugandan army was already splintered , so there was no cohesive force available to repel the Tanzanians. Besides who told you Israel will use ground troops for an invasion ? It will be a pin point strike with overwhelming force and then a rescue.

Right now, they are listening to all the DSS communications - LMAO

Yet somehow, you think they can be equated with Nigerian troops? Invasion is not possible without ground troops unless you just want to bomb a place and go back home.

Like I said again, Nigeria is weak but you guys are extremely underrating it. Unless they are going to use ICBMs, they need to bring their planes here which a few can be struck down and the moment these things start happening, the prisoners will likely be even more guarded.


Can you show me some of the audio of DSS' communications please? You guys live in fantasy

falopey:
Hadiths were written by Muhammed’s close companions, those that walked, ate and spoke with him. You that was born yesterday want to disapprove the first hand account of the followers of the prophet

No, they weren't. They were written by those who heard some people that heard from a scholar who heard from a scholar that claimed that the companions of the prophet said that the prophet said something.


That's how Hadiths are. I can also use the same logic to tell you that all of those 500,000 hadiths that were rejected by Imam Bukhari were also denying the claims of the companions of our prophet.

Even in court, Hadith will be rejected because they are not direct sayings of the sahaba. Mind you, there are still some that are authentic but any Hadiths that goes against what the Quran has clearly specified (freedom of religion, 100 lashes for both adultery and furnucation, etc) and those that contradict one another will always be discarded by those who are objective

Kandeed:
Infact o wanted to quote GodHatesBigots but just decide to shun it. these guys really don't know the country they in. shey na because of bandit n Boko Haram they relegate Nigeria to one chick without wings?? I was recently shocked to read/know Nigerian Army was once acknowledged as the best land Army is what these nigga are looking down on as scout. I just laugh sha

There's a certain amount of hatred that makes one to lose his sense of reasoning. That they are expecting Israel to bomb Nigeria because of their citizens alone is enough stupidity

GodHatesBigots:
LMAO.

Israel has taken on all the Arab countries and single handedly defeated them. Who is Nigeria ?

Arab countries who had recently gathered independence (and were even at loggerheads with one another) against a country backed by a superpower.

Let's talk about Hezbollah vs Israel in 2006.

GodHatesBigots:
Uganda was 4,879km from Israel , but Israeli commandos still flew all the way to Entebe to rescue their citizens. It's not going to be a war but a rescure mission if it comes to that.

You mean the same Uganda that was flawlessly beaten by Tanzania?

I understand that Israel is better than Nigeria, but you guys are taking this madness out of proportion. Any Israeli troop that lands here will be beaten. The best they can do is to employ airstrikes (which won't save their citizens). Their ground troops have been repeatedly humiliated by ragtag Hezbollah

So many fools on this forum.

FoolishBoy419:
Kano is one of the few northern states that stand a chance to be our pride but unfortunately, religion is tarnishing it. Islam and Christianity must be kept where they belong if this country is going to ever smell development because we take them too seriously.

I was following BBC Hausa the other time when a report about the murder of a Pakistani man who had been ACQUITTED from the charges of blasphemy. To my shock, 70% of the comments praised the killer even though he was found not guilty. And then you wonder why the north has so many terrorists.

As a muslim, I'm supposed to be offended by this but I have to agree with you. I saw the report you are talking about and it was unfortunate to say the least. Even Arabs are not as fanatical as northerners and it's disgusting. Funny enough, we mostly pretend to care about the religion without following commandments like contentment, honesty, seeking of knowledge, etc.


Any educated person that goes through the Hadiths will find serious fault there and while some genuinely came from the prophet, a great chunk of them are mere fabrications

Clearly, Kano is going downhill. Challenging fake hadiths that have done nothing but to make our religion look like a gang of bloodsuckers and cavemen has now become a crime punishable by the state.

I'm sure they will try to sentence him to death based on the same fake hadiths even though the Qur'an has provided the only situations that can warrant killing (blasphemy and apostasy are NOT part of them).


Checkout this post of mine on the issue

https://www.nairaland.com/6629016/should-sahih-hadiths-really-100

AntiChristian:
Sahih Ahadith are as reliable as the Qur'an cos they were all transmitted by the Companions of the Prophet salallahu alayhi wa salam.

You will have to meet those scholars that understands to explain your doubts to you.

Once you have it in your mind that the Ahadith are doubtful then know that you'll soon disbelieve in the Qur'an too as Allah refers to the Ahadith by saying in many places "Obey Allah and His messenger" i.e. we obey Allah by following the Qur'an and we obey the Messenger by following his examples.

Allah says:
Indeed in the Messenger of Allah (Muhammad SAW) you have a good example to follow for him who hopes in (the Meeting with) Allah and the Last Day and remembers Allah much. (Qur'an 33:21)

The Ahadith are the records of his examples. So casting aspersions on them is also doing same on the Qur'an.

Sometimes the Qur'an gives the complete ruling and sometimes the hadith gives the complete ruling. At other times the ahadith explains the Qur'an and the Qur'an can also explain the ahadith. The Qur'an and Sunnah are what the Prophet left behind.

And there's no contradiction between an hadith and the Qur'an as the Prophet practice the Qur'an while alive.

First of all, you are completely wrong for even saying that the Hadith (with all its glaring faults that I've mentioned) are as reliable as the Quran. I mean, let's face it. Even the compilers threw away 90% of the hadiths so how can you even compare such with the Qur'an?

I think your comment is the exact problem I have with the hadiths. First of all, how do you equate disbeliving parts of the hadiths with disbelieving the words of Allah even when there are strong evidences that many of them are false?


Kindly explain the differences between these hadiths for me (for starters)

Is Ghusl (bath) mandatory after intercourse?
- Hazrat Usman said: If a man withdraws before ejaculation, let him wash the genitals and make Wudhu (No bath necessary). (Bukhari, vol 1 Kitabul Wudhu pg 164 Hadith 176)

Rasool (S) said: When a man sits between the woman’s legs and pushes hard, Ghusl (bath) becomes mandatory with or without ejaculation. (Muslim vol 1 Bab-il-Wudhu pg 485)


This is just an example of so many others. Don't ever equate Hadiths with the Qur'an. Salami Alaikum

Alhajiemeritus:
I'd like to point out something to you, Hadith isn't just the collections about the prophet, it's also collections about the followers.
Having said that, it's important for everyone to understand the Science of Hadith. Get the knowledge of Hadith.
Usulul Hadith most importantly.
I won't tell you whether all Sahih Hadiths are reliable or not, but I know only the Quran is infallible

Most of the hadiths I mentioned were actually attributed to the prophet but yes, I agree that the Qur'an is 100% accurate