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Eko Ile: Afraid or who/what?

Sure dear https://www.skyscrapercity.com/images/smilies/coffee.gif

Lol this one has already started

Eko Ile: A very misguided and pointless approach.

Maybe you need to work on the highlighted first before talking about moderation which going by your post is going to be difficult for you and hazardous for NL.

Are you afraid?

alj harem: very funny. The issue of tribalism on the internet (not only on nairaland) cannot be tackled by mere post, bans and warning. It has to start from the top, likes of Sun newspaper and Odili news. Also with like of Achebe and co inciting the young generations into tribalism, I am sorry but it cannot end, it can only be reduced in moments.

Take this from me. Thanks to Achebe, the progress black have made in years to unite has just been broken again.

Utter bs. Nigeria is more divided now than it ever has been way before Achebe. Cowards like you like to hide their crimes under a scapegoat to make yourselves feel better. You were a crook long before someone called out your crookedness you are just mad that he called you out. In reality you were never hidden you just thought that the rest of the world was stupid.

Eko Ile: Still, ko si Nobel sha..



smh...

What do you have? You were born a bastard and will probably die as one. You are a nobody and a sycophant of the highest order. You are crying for Achebe but where is your own prize? Your own medal? Being Fashola's cu.m dumpster is not a title that is worth brandishing around but being the bastard you are up is down and right is purple in your world, so you smile with pride at your title.

Tell us what is your life worth remembering for? Achebe's name trended on Twitter, will the town buffoon even holler you name in your water logged village when the time comes?

You sit on here day in day out being nothing but a bitter dried up troll and you have mouth to talk about people who have accomplished more even in death than you have in your life. How sad is that? Even now the so called loser is all you can think about, if you are not opening up a thread on Achebe you are commenting in one about him. If someone is not important to me I ignore them, you on the other hand stalk them to the ends of the Earth. Yes that's totally normal behavior

Achebe the so called bitter man is dead and gone, you on the other hand are here and alive and salty as hell. Who is the one suffering?

Please do the world a favor and strip down and douse your decrepit body in gasoline and light a match while holding a loaded revolver between your teeth. Save natural selection the time and the effort of eliminating you from this life by taking it upon yourself to speed up the process. You might finally be deserving of a medal afterwards

I think that's to annoying part of this whole saga is that no one has read the book. I don't think half of the people calling Awo's name give two sh1ts about him, they've always at some level hated Achebe and his accomplishments so they are riding this to the wheels come off.

The first time I read Things Fall Apart was in 11th grade it was my first time reading any book about Africa from an African author. And this was in a predominantly white school in an AP class. I read the first chapter and was hooked, and finished the book before the class did. For such a short book, Achebe was able to create a whole world. I sometime get mad with Achebe because I wish added more details about certain things, but maybe that's the magic of the book the ability to do so much with so little.

In college during my second year my Modern Africa professor required the book to be read for our section on Nigeria, we talked mainly about Eastern and Northern Nigeria. I didn't have to read it again because I remembered the book by heart but I bought it anyway and read through it again. I actually looked at the sparknotes as well and saw so much symbolism that I missed

My African Politics class had us read Man of the People another novel by Achebe, a book about "a not-Nigeria" Nigeria that talked about nepotism and tribal politics hindering development in African nations, Again for the Nigerian section of the class.

So far I've read no longer at ease and other Nigerian books such as Graceland, Purple Hibiscus, Half of the Yellow Sun, Akata Witch, and etc. and I'd like to think it was Achebe who made me want to read more African literature and Nigerian literature. And I'm grateful for that.

I actually didn't know that Nigeria had won the Nobel prize in Literature if I didn't come across Wole Soyinka's books while looking for one of Achebe's books in the school library. Never read any of his books but I did read a book comparing the two's literary styles.

So many of us in America saw Africa for the first time in a light that wasn't either the savage or the tragic helpless place known as Africa and I thank him for that.

Truly a one of kind man.

Has anyone so critical against Achebe actually read his final book. I have a copy and I am going to read it when I finish exams and from what I've been told so far Ojukwu, Awo, and Gowon are all criticized by Achebe.

I think if I have the time I'll post up line by line what was said about each man, so we can find the liars among us.

I'd hate to find out that some of the folks here are just taking pot shots at Achebe because they are tribalists, that were hoping to discredit the greatest African novelist who ever lived

qhiwegh: You can learn what sounds the letter represent and still cannot speak, read (as in being able to understand), or write English.

What you're saying is that a Spanish/French/Italian/German/Polish... or speaker of any language that uses the Latin alphabet must learn English first before being able to read and write their own language. It's completely asinine.

If you notice in the countries you listed English is a part of their curriculum

They all learn English in conjunction with their native language.

The same in China they learn English to read romanizations of Chinese words.

qhiwegh: You don't need to know how to speak, read, or write English before knowing the Latin alphabet.

Yes you do. You need to know what sounds those letters make and represent. If it didn't matter then why use the Latin Alphabet in the first place.

qhiwegh: Why is that?

Considering the fact that Yoruba is written using Latin Alphabet, Im pretty sure it helps to know English.

Or did you just know this was an "A" based on your knowledge of Yoruba alone

Aderostock: Come to IDIROKO, OTTA, LANFEWA, SAGAMU, AGBARA, IJOKO, and AKUTE all in Ogun state and so many Igbo youths, parents and kids, Hausas and some nigerdeltans leaving there not to mention IBADAN

OMG. I really dont care

Lord the things that get some of you hot and Anyways.

Anyway here are some shots of the Igbo-Ukwu pieces.

[img]http://3.bp..com/-9ID4krEzYJ4/UC1b7YF9rzI/AAAAAAAAB80/rd_mkmtXYpk/s1600/intro_nigeria_vessel.jpg[/img]

[img]http://3.bp..com/-Map7aGn4U0Y/Tb4YUanM8OI/AAAAAAAAAGI/SomtPXSvsBQ/s1600/igbo+ukwu+bronze2.jpg[/img]

qhiwegh: I don't know what you're trying to say. Comparing your cousin to students in Ondo is relevant in what sense? Why must Yorubas learn English?



Lagos is the most populous state in the SW. It's the pride of Yorubaland. What's wrong with bringing it up?

Its hard to make a case that the rest of the SW is open if everybody goes to a state that is a mix of every group. But yeah you continue to hold that non-existent point you have.

qhiwegh: How could you compare Yorubaland and Igboland with some place you went for NYSC? Obviously it will be a place in need of service. If Yorubaland is so bad, why are there millions of Igbos in Lagos? Is Lagos not Yoruba domain?

Jesus is Lagos the only place in the SW you guys are familiar with. Everybody and their mama in the SW is from Lagos

I wouldn't blame people for thinking the SW was just one state

More on the Igbo-Ukwu:

The people of Igbo-Ukwu, ancestors of present-day Igbo, were the earliest coppersmiths in West Africa, working the metal through hammering, bending, twisting, and incising. They are probably among the earliest groups of West Africans to employ the lost-wax casting technique in the production of bronze sculptures

[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/22/Igbo_Ukwu_vessel.jpgs[/img]

Nsibidi (also known as nsibiri,[2] nchibiddi or nchibiddy[3]) is a system of symbols indigenous to what is now southeastern Nigeria that is apparently ideographic, though there have been suggestions that it includes logographic elements.[4] The symbols are at least several centuries old: Early forms appeared on excavated pottery as well as what are most likely ceramic stools and headrests from the Calabar region, dating between 400 and 1400 CE.[5] Nsibidi's origin has been attributed to the Ekoi people of southern Nigeria.
There are thousands of nsibidi symbols, of which over 500 have been recorded. They were once taught in a school to children. Many of the signs deal with love affairs; those that deal with warfare and the sacred are kept secret.[6] Nsibidi is used on wall designs, calabashes, metals (such as bronze), leaves, swords, and tattoos.[2][7] It is primarily used by the Ekpe leopard secret society (also known as Ngbe or Egbo), which is found across Cross River among the Ekoi, Efik, Igbo people, and related peoples.
Outside knowledge of nsibidi came in 1904 when T.D. Maxwell noticed the symbols.[4] Before the British colonisation of the area, nsibidi was divided into a sacred version and a public, more decorative version which could be used by women.[7] Aspects of colonisation such as Western education and Christian doctrine drastically reduced the number of nsibidi-literate people, leaving the secret society members as some of the last literate in the symbols.[8] Nsibidi was and is still a means of transmitting Ekpe symbolism. Nsibidi was transported to Cuba and Haiti via the Atlantic slave trade, where it developed into the anaforuana and veve symbols.[9][10]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/be/Nsibidi_name_written.jpg

To be fair if the pictures that were posted later in the thread had been first folks may have not been so negative to the thread's title

Its ok work..

tpia@:
I'm currently reading the book and i find it interesting he criticized ojukwu also but we heard nothing about that, from nlers.

Na wa, smh.

Everyone has an agenda here

I don't know how people can form an opinion of a 300+ pg novel from a few excerpts and excerpts that are not given proper context.

I read comments that said Achebe criticized all of the major leaders of the time not just Awo.

A link to an Indian Paper about Prof. Achebe
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/rest-of-world/Chinua-Achebe-revered-Nigerian-writer-has-died-Publisher/articleshow/19127891.cms

dayokanu: Happy how can he be? With the bile that came from him last November?

That must have been the cause of his death.

Too much hatred

According to you. I bought a copy of his last book and I'm going to read and judge it for myself.

Yes pneumonia is brought on by bitterness Then many of the elderly of bitter people...the way you folks reason its easy to draw conclusions why Nigeria is the way it is.

The funny thing is that Soyinka will probably write one of the best obituaries for him defying the tribal logic of NL. Had it been reverse Achebe would have done the same.

You folks need to leave NL. The vast majority of Nigerians have no clue about half the junk you say on here.

dayokanu: Acheb died a bitter man. What a shame. Started well, ended miserable

Bitter against evryone

According to you? He seemed happy his final days according to reports.

omonnakoda: Why conduct experiments if you have no opinions. Do not be naive. The purpose of experiments is to test or validate opinions. Scientists are not blank slates performing experiments at random for no reason. We suspect drug A might cure AID so we test it that is how it works. I hope gerrit

Hypothesis is not an opinion. And hypothesis are usually grounded in facts. You can hypothesize that water falls upwards but you'll be faced with challenging the laws of physics in addition to supporting your hypothesis.

This isn't an experiment, this is one loser bigot that has nothing better to do than ask dumb questions.

Are you God? Are you fate or destiny? Hell can you even claim to be somewhat lucky?

If destiny has it for an Igbo man or woman to be your president what will you do? Die? Cry? Forsake God?

Futhermore the fact that you compared your inbred behind to scientists is laughable. Are telling me Nairaland that has 1 million users (which I highly doubt) can be any real representation of a country of 160 million people? Or the fact that many of its users are not even in Nigeria? Or the fact that most here would definitely not be among the vast majority of nigerians who are working class or poor?

Which experiment is conducted in such a flawed environment except for quack ones.

If God is for you who can be against you. Certainly not a punk like you.

Get it monkey?

I pity the folks who think GEJ will get the boot, a guy who rose through the ranks through coincidences, that guy has luck on his side

Why bother asking a question you have already formed an opinion on?

The same way no one though a Barack Obama would defeat the Clintons and clinch the title of President of the United States is the same way an Igbo or whoever else your ignorant minds and dark hearts have decided against will rise up and be given what's been written in stone.

If its in someone's destiny for something to happen it will happen. It may happen while your using one filthy cloth to wipe your shriveled up behind on your death bed but knowning how faith loves to make a fool out of those who question it, it will happen in your 2 eyes.