ogelekpomgam: Bro.its hell down here. Moving from mainland to island.Earning close to 150k.yet its really terrible. Working looks like a circus and frustration maximized.. with the daily 3-4 hrs traffic on the Lagos road.
You should open a separate thread with this issue and here other people's dilemma.
To and from my work place is less than 25km and I spend about 1k a day on transport and I work 4days a week with 2days off. Despite this flexibility, today you can count the number of cars in the companies car park.
For people like you, I can only imagine what you're going through.
All that time we had subsidy, petrol was really expensive. As we were buying it cheap, somewhere debt was accumulating.
I know we are poor. I know APC has messed up this country and I don't like the tinubu government. I'm already cynical about it.
But keeping up the charade of cheap fuel has cost us too much
Either way we pay, either from our pocket or at IMF HQ .
Subsidizing fuel is not far fetched my brother. Our leaders are clueless as to how to run a nation. Someone above me said Nigerians have subsidized the political class at the expense of the masses (hmmm).
They(FG) closed the borders so that our local markets can grow. Same thing they did to fairly used clothing. But you will never hear them(FG) say, ban importation of refined crude so that our refineries can work.
These are some of the by-product from refining crude oil:
Gasoline: A primary product obtained from crude oil refining and used as fuel for automobiles.
Diesel: Another important fuel obtained from crude oil, commonly used in diesel engines.
Jet fuel: A specialized fuel used for aviation purposes, produced during the refining process.
Heating oil: Used for heating homes and buildings, especially during colder seasons.
Liquefied petroleum gas (LPG): Includes propane and butane, used for heating, cooking, and fueling vehicles.
Fuel oil: Used for industrial heating, electricity generation, and as bunker fuel for ships.
Asphalt: Used in road construction and as a waterproofing agent.
Lubricants: Oils used to reduce friction and provide lubrication for engines and machinery.
Petrochemicals: Crude oil refining produces various petrochemicals, including ethylene, propylene, benzene, toluene, and xylene. These chemicals serve as building blocks for plastics, synthetic fibers, rubber, dyes, solvents, and many other products.
Bitumen: A thick, sticky form of crude oil used primarily in road paving and roofing materials.
Coke: A solid carbon residue produced during the refining process, often used as a fuel in industrial processes.
Sulfur: Removed from crude oil during refining, it finds applications in fertilizers, chemicals, and the production of sulfuric acid.
To think that we would only return home with fuel, diesel, aviation fuel, and probably kerosene is abysmal.
So many ways the Nigerian govt could be making money if only they could make the refineries work. We could export some of these byproducts in exchange for foreign currency.
pope191: I honestly won't like to get into this drag going on here, but inbetween I think facts should not be distorted. I am still in the learning process and won't like to jump into what I don't know, but even since the subidy, I've been giving it a second tot from my position of thinking the work is no longer worth it.
Prices are no longer the same, the traffic rate is not the same. Tho a bit stressful compare to what it used to be. Before I don't go beyond 100/120k weekly, but all factors being equal, I hope to gross 160k doing 4 and half days. The only issue here is, the better chunk of the money goes to fuel. Like I always say, almost everyone is feeling it, VI peeps are merging trips. It's a period in our country we all just have to sacrifice and hope for better price and balance as things unfold. Thank you
The bolded is what is being asked for and this is why some drivers have come out to lend their voice. If their agitations falls through it benefits everyone now instead of showing solidarity, they are mocked at.
Deypray: I've been having vivid imagination of how NEC meetings look like...where important decision that make or mar the nation's already fragile structure are made.
If more of these folks are planted in the corridors of power. We will have nothing but chaos, disunity and underdevelopment.
Imagine civil service commission are proposing to increase salary and workers are saying it's not needed.
It's a different thing if you claim you don't have money ATM, reason why you go out during this strike...but NOT that you don't believe/ support in their struggle. Its complete balderdash. People like this needs to change their ways.
The number of drivers outside during this strike action tells a lot about the crop of people doing this business (largely unemployed), invariably it tells you why the e-coys won't budge too. They are feeding fat on the unemployment rate and the weak union ( made possible by the likes we are reffering to here). Bolt have tried increasing their fare twice... Made possible through this strike action.
dapotemi: You guys that are on this hustle FULL TIME should continue to have this conversation/negotiations... Unfortunately, many Nigerians are bad at having conversations; I think it's also made them awful at negotiations. At the end when they get the short end of the stick, some of them resort to cheating or delivering shitty services... Redemption song by Bob Marley readily comes to mind "Emancipate yourself from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our mind!!!
Some of them don't know what mental slavery is and then he went ahead and wrote an epistle defining slavery and employee. How many of us dey read terms and conditions while downloading apps...did he? And he is talking about agreement.
My expenses before the fuel increase: Fuel: 8000/185 = 43Ltrs InDrive commission: 2k Total expenses: 10k
Expenses after fuel increase: Fuel: 43Ltr x 488 = 20,984 InDrive commission= 2k Total expenses: 22,984
Percentage increment of 129.84%
Will the work rate be the same? With this I will have to work more to cover my expenses before I start to work for any form of profit. Yet he talks about making more money now than before.
Let 90% of drivers down tools for 1week and let's see if the app companies will not dance to your tunes. Continue to allow yourselves to be deceived that the app companies don't care. Without a doubt they know drivers are the life blood of the business.
CheerfulGiver: Again, your stupidity shines brighter than LED.
I've always carried everyone along on my methods of making more money irrespective of fuel price, app price or the negativity on this thread. Everytime I post positivity and new methods on this thread, you and your fellow idiots shoot it down. But I'm the selfish one.
Like I said, even with the increment you will still complain and I Will still be the one to come here and post how easy it will be to make 60k a day, and fools Like you will still discourage others from following it because it will cause them waist pain, eye problems, damage their car. You will even still say salary work is better.
It's just a matter of time. I dey wait.
You're just a cheerleader to me. When you're done spewing nonsense go look for your pom-pom and cheer.
Viking07: The strike has been a tremendous success. Almighty bolt increased their fares 3 times under 7 days. Uber increased their own for the 2nd time today. This is despite the very “hardworking” Nairaland drivers who always claim to make profit. 😆 But sane drivers protested and we’re making progress. Even though the prices are still unbalanced.
The next push is a total reduction of commission to 10% on all apps in Nigeria. We’d continue pressing their neck on Monday. I was at the protest ground today and the number of Corollas I saw, I’ve never seen it in my life. 😁
Kudos to all those who stood on the side of truth and made their voices heard on different platforms. From Lagos to Abuja to Kano to Delta, Ibadan, Kwara etc. Una well done . 🙌✌️
Kudos to you guys, you're the real GOATs of this hustle and not that Cheerleader that is so full of himself and always ranting like a spoilt child. Besides being a cheerleader he is also petty. He might as well ask the app companies to let him continue to run round Lagos like someone without direction and not effect the fare increase on his trips.
One might argue about some of the issues he raised but again the question is: can the relationship between the drivers and the app companies be better? And my answer to that is a resounding YES.
Agitations like these are meant to benefit everybody but you're called lazy because you ask for a better treatment. Some people are just selfish and cheerleader reeks of it.
At least some of the app companies are beginning to send out emails effecting changes with regards to fares. It may not be much but this goes to show that the ehailing companies are following trends but instead of taking a stance some drivers who I see as cheerleaders would rather insult those who are trying to make their voices heard over issues that will also benefit them.
Now that fare prices are beginning to go up will they now say they don't want the fare increase?
You're far gone brother. You've really been bedded by slavery. Someone dey fight for an improved means of livelihood for the same hustle you dey intoxicated with, yet this is your stand. Truly, most Nigerians are in love with their slave masters. No matter the profit you claim to make at the moment. This strike actions aim is to give you a better deal. Don't you get?
But a quick one...Let's assume all these e-coys budge after this strike. You also will gladly share in the spoils. Tueh, e don be for this country.
Imagine if slave freedom fighters had his kind of mentality, oyinbo for still dey ship us like monkeys dey go farm for plantation. After all, even then, some black slaves where having it easy but they all stood for a just cause. Some even died for the freedom we all enjoy now.
kanuisagoat: I didn't see that so let me make it easier for him. Let him credit your account with the 100k for 10 people and I will post evidence of more than 700k earnings monthly.
You will act as an escrow. Once you confirm receipt of the money, I post evidence and you disburse the money appropriately
I want to prove that the edeeot larry1960 is a poor church rat and I want him to go hungry for days.
But if anyone expects me to post my salary on a public forum when the idiot asking me to do it can easily deactivate with nothing to lose, I will not do it
You are one of the few people I respect in this forum. You really don't need this. I have heard so much about salary workers in the past few days that I am getting confused, or are salary workers not important again in the society or are they not part of the people that run a society?
They say an argument is like an 8page book without words.
DonJoeSneh: 200% means Ikeja to Phase1 which was normally around 5k will now be 15k without surge, maybe my maths is rusty.
During surge, wetin be 15k. Pearl or pope can't remember, but one of them put up an image of a trip of more than 50k. Let's not even talk about when uber started operation newly.
DonJoeSneh: Well analyzed, unlike that CheerfulGiver wey dey insult him families upandan to justify nonsense.... Na only him car dey use 1ltr for 7.4km on Lagos roads.
So I think it's safe to pick your trips based on km travelled and not time since your cars fuel consumption only understands distance per Ltr.
pope191: All of us still deh lie for ourselves, reality will be clear soon when Lagos resume fully or one truck spoil for road. All we are striving to get now is fuel money after our usual net, with time rent, foodstuffs, school fees, beer, domitila money will add to normal and we shall be fighting to get them too.
Lai Mohammed will be shocked beyond reasonable doubt if he reads this thread.
Pearl1910: If I or Cheerfulgiver did this they will say it's a lie. It's not possible, We are agents blablabla. I know the fuel increase will affect the profits hussle but how can we go around it and maintain status quo or even make more. That is what is on my head. As I am lying down like this, that's what I think of, as far as I know this is what I still want to do. If it doesn't pay me again, I find something else to do and not heap my woes on the app companies. People will not like my views, but that's just how I am wired. I am sorry.
I completely disagree with his submission that time and energy on 9k and 19k expenses are the same.
With two trips of 4k each gives him 8k, now he needs a 3rd trip to make up for his fuel and commission before he starts to now look for his net. Now this is at 185/ltr for 30L.
Now how many trips of 4k will he have to do for his expenses of almost 20k before he now starts to look for his net?
Itsrm: Too many nonsense from people who don't even do the salary work thinking they know more than those who do it
Like you, I have not spent one naira on hospital bills inclusive of child birth in the last 5 years. And I use one of the best hospitals you can find in town. Just imagine the cumulative hospital bill over 5 years.
I think some of us are just here to read...really no point arguing.
IFSHR: On my own....UK student route is a very easy process unlike Canada...dedicate some hours to the UK student thread every day....you will learn the process and you can ask all your question there...don't pay any one any shishi
TheModerator: You see why you are foolish? Fuel was increased by 163percent? If you went to school, you wouldn't have been driving kabu kabu since 2016 and bragging about it as your chosen career. It also show the dumb nature of this thread. Typical kabu kabu mentality that none can correct you.
You actually believe that the fuel increase will work in your favour, how dumb a way of thinking. Ewu empanu
But this is also wrong because you need to get the difference first by subtracting the (new price - old price) / old price * 100