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Eze Promoe: [color=crimson]Didn't she said that the matter was been blown out of proportion. How come this?

Anyway, I trust Agharareporters to do journalism aghara aghara, and then cause ogbaghara in the family [/color]

You blamed SR but ignored the abuser-in-chief Chime? Is it because he is from your village or you just like to prop-up that imaginary image that somehow you people are perfect and infallible, now you blame SR! You blame the NHRC! But if she had died you would have blamed her right? Even a tuber of yam would know that all those denials are at the behest of Chime and his criminal gang! Except you were born last night or a chronic learner, every one know that Nigerian government lie and cannot be trusted at any level! She contacts Falana, gets new media organization on her case and then she certainly backs down and you cannot see that that is Chime and his gang manipulating things for political gains? Hmm...some people will be permanently blind whenever any wrong-doer has a name that sounds from their neck of the woods!

OgidiBoy: very pretty lady, she can come move in with me anytime.

Thief! I know she will be crossing over to the other side but forget you ever get a piece of the action!

Okonjo Iweala is really short, practically a midget! Add to it her being morbidly obese and a really hideous face, no wonder they moved her far away from the center of the camera action

Is this the Nigeria of fresh-air GEJ? It looks like Nigerians will choke on this fresh-air for sure, enjoy it as much as you can! If it kills you, good riddance!

Can anyone tell me where and when this happened? I mean the whole story, which state because this is new to me??

ngozievergreen: who told u igbos do not support regionalism.
That they prefer outright secession does it mean they don't support it?
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And leave ironsi out of this, ironsi has died, 43 yrs ago for that matter.
Wonder what has prevented all of u from reverting to what ever is the ideal.
Hausa/Fulani//MB/Yoruba/Ijaw have all ruled the nation, yet nobody changed to regionalism, y would u want to blame ironsi that died 43 yrs ago for the absence of regionalism.
U ppl are not serious yet.
OBJ ruled naija twice but he didn't do it, is he not Yoruba?

It's good to know that Ibos will support Regional Governments - I think it is the first step to independent countries coming out of Nigeria.

I mentioned Ironsi so that the truth of history is not lost because he is directly responsible. You can argue that it is not the job of another person to fix your screw-up: they may or may not - but it doesn't make it any more correct for you who screwed-up! Ironsi destroyed Nigeria's working regional governments for unitary government at a time Ibos were in prime position at all top levels of government bureaucracy and companies obviously because he knew Ibos would benefit the most when all policies is dictated from a central position by a fellow Ibo! The next day after announcing decree 34, Ojukwu announced to the world that on the basis of seniority, Ibos from the East would be transferred to the north to do what? Of course, to become heads of government bureaucracy, not as messengers but in fact to consign the Hausas who were quite disadvantaged educationally to more servitude as messengers!

When the bottom fell-out from the coup charade, and the supposed victims gained ascendancy, is it justified to expect them to hand on a platter to you what you took from them, by force even when there were dissenting opinions and riots? Think about this and be honest! Yes, OBJ ruled as president but you should know that OBJ's worldview is that of a military man with a unitary view of command structure, he knew nothing else all his life, how would you expect a grown lion to feed on vegetables? Also, the socio-politico-economics situation when OBJ became president in 1999 was so bad, the last thing that would be on the mind of any sensible leader is further division! He did great by unifying the country and improving our image in the reckoning of the world after it had been so battered by IBB and Abacha and there is no way, you would expect that he would break Nigeria into regions! In any case, now is the time for Ibos to support regionalism, the first step to Biafra and independent states from other parts of Nigeria! Godspeed to all of YOU!

Slizbeat: Brother, let the sleeping dog continue sleeping oo. don't wake em up.

Okay, I let them alone!

Double post!

Slizbeat: See the giving the igbos a strategy on how to hit the Presidency slot.

Leave the igbos alone and stop gallivanting in their affairs.

Anambra election is more talked about by the yorubas than even the entire igbos all in abid to impose APC on the populace. Both on the internet and on daily issues as if they will vote when the time comes.

Igbos are ofcourse so many in number that wherever they find themselves, they always reflect during population count even though 2006 census was the biggest scam of all and had to underpopulate their numbers, yet they don't argue like they have the determining factor even though it's evidence they do. They always hate anything imposition and always want equality but in the present day Nigeria, it seems like they are no good or relevant.

If every tribe thinks so about them, why not let them go?? Are you afraid of what will happen if they do?? These questions keeps on bothering me but yet no one seems to have an answer.

On a free and fair election, we cannot win any presidential slot cos the good amongst us now are not know and that's a major problem.

He that must come to equity must come with clean hands, something the Ibos are now unable to do! As far back as before independence, there was a GOLDEN chance for Ibos to "go" but they did not and neither did they leave a room for anybody to go as Azikiwe wanted a single Nigeria, shunning progressive alliance with Chief Awolowo to take sides with the north, whom he knew that could not compete on the same level with the Ibos. It was clear that in any arrangement that brought both North and East together, the North could derive a lot of benefits but the East will derive MUCH more benefits from such arrangement because the workforce to replace the departing expatriate whites would be drawn mostly from the places where the leaders of the country came from. That is exactly what happened and that was why for example, Ibos were the VCs of most Nigerian universities in the 50's, were the majority officers in the army, were the supervisors in the railways, airways, seaports, etc, add all that together with Zik as ceremonial president and give PM to Balewa, there was no better deal! Zik knew that someday Balewa (north) would cease to be PM but the thousands of Ibos at the top of virtually all government agencies is a major win for the Ibos while almost all the norther Hausas will be messengers, hewers of wood and fetchers of water for their ogas, etc.

When this eventually failed because of the coup, an attempted power grab, a war, etc and then that top position which Ibos coveted at that time was lost, why would the Hausa who now realize they were shafted badly relinquish their stranglehold on what remains the legacy of Zik's short-sighted alliance, which lasted less than 10 years? Since 1966, more than 40 years, the Ibos have to live under the yoke of what happened because of less than 10 years of shafting the rest of the country. The Westerners that were sidelined when Zik passed up the opportunity definitely have no moral burden to interfere in helping the people who declined the hand of partnership, when it was time to lay a good foundation. This is why it is difficult for the rest of Nigeria to let Ibos go and that is why all parts of Nigeria are now trapped into this quagmire! The Yorubas, Hausas, Ijaw, ND, MB, etc cannot go (legally) because we are not all trapped and except the law is changed to allow for parts of the country to "go", other parts of the country will be legally obliged to use force against an errant part who thinks it could do whatever it likes illegally. My only suggestion is that let Ibos support REGIONAL governments during this conference (if it is real) and that will be the first step to independence for them and every part of Nigeria today!

Was there not a report saying Enugu is the safest state in Nigeria?

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Don't get excited, I will debunk your remaining points in a minute. I knew you'll need one or two pages of twisting and turning to answer each point so I decided to adress them one by one.

Your epistle did not disprove the fact that Akintola was not allowed to rule Western Region as the Premier freely. Awo interfered and got him illegally ousted, period! You call it a democratic process, but the judiciary thought otherwise. In response, Awolowo and his boys turned to violence, hence wetie. These are facts which cannot be disproved.

One would think that a responsible leader would have respect the judiciary, but Awo and his boys chose to deal with a political and legal loss with violence. I suppose if you could, you would have been arguing that Wetie never happened. Now let me address your second false point.[/quote]I wonder how much of what really happened you believe or is it a recent book that you read that makes you to be twisting and turning - you, not Katz is doing the twisting and turning just to arrive at a pre-conceived conclusion. So, if a government (especially lying and dishonest governments like has been in Nigeria almost throughout its history) puts out a position, IT MUST BE BELIEVED because it is the INFALLIBLE TRUTH? Oh, or you accept that position when it suits your pre-conceived conclusion and you argue it when it goes against it? Well, I tell you what: if governments always told the truth (like you posit here), then the court of public opinion will always be the same as that of the government! That is something that has rarely happened in Nigeria and that is why till tomorrow, the majority of the people concerned with the leadership of Awolowo and Akintola ALWAYS and will always put Awolowo ahead of Akintola! No amount of stories can change that...especially when you somehow imply that some judiciary found Akintola was "right" given that the same judiciary - riduculously compromises by Balewa, Bello, Zik and their minions had to convict the same Chief Awolowo on trumped-up treason charge! Years later, the judge that handed down a guilty verdict to Fela apologized and publicly confessed that he was told to convict him by all means. Chief Awolowo since wrote an update to the so called conviction in his book, My March through the Prison, did you ever read it or why hasn't any of the people you mentioned rebutted his positions?

Oh, today you would still have us believe that since the government has not found any wrong doing in Oduah, then she is innocent and the people who allege corruption are wrong??

Energito: awo was a foolish man who wanted to rule the so called one nigeria,how i wish is still alive i for stone am to death or even by hanging.

Can you come within 1 KM of where Tinubu is supposed to be in another 30 minutes? Well, you know that riff-raffs and nonentities like you have a better chance getting frozen over in hell than coming close to where Chief Awolowo is in-play! Even your fathers could not touch him when he visited their strongholds, in the midst of war, and it is you a nonentity?? I know it is part of the empty-chestbeating anyway! You that if a mere banger goes off in your presence you will be peeing and shaiting on your body that will even look only 1 guard in the eye?? LWKMD! Making mouths like these once killed 3 M people in a short period of time, I suggest you read your history again and this time remember to understand and memorize it!

[quote author=ab_evolve]Call me Yoruba man and i will not object but should you call me a southerner ... i will roll my sleeves in defence because I am a Nigerian.
I laugh when most people because their parents called them Chukwudi, Amaka, Emeka, Kingsley, Ngozi, Umeh, Obi, etc think they are more in tune with what obtains in the South-east than the rest of us. Well you are wrong.

I have followed politics in all of Nigeria. I have ready Dim Ojukwu's account of the Civil war, I have read Gowon and Obasanjo's account. I have gone through international journals of the events of the civil war and i know better than you ... 'Ifeanyi.' I have recently read Professor Chinua Achebe's "there was a country" and i have my respect for the Igbo people.

Believe it or not the only ethnic group in Nigeria that is at war with almost everyone else is the Igbo. I believe this ethnic nationality needs to be accorded her rightful place in Nigeria. But no one will give you what is/ought to be yours until you strategically position yourself for same. APGA is a good party but it does not have the structure to deliver the dream Nigeria that the Igbos want or the advocacy/preasure group that the Biafra nation needs to come to life.

Politics is about alignments and permutations. Your alignment and permutation must be right to get the right results. Your interest cannot be protected if you cannot have good working relationship with your peers. You cannot stay in Nnewi and expect to be called a Nationalist. Zik transversed through Nigeria that was what gave him the Prime Minister position. Pius Anyim, Chuba Okadigbo, Authur Nzeribe and the likes had to swim in the big waters before they could be acclaimed as national figures, even chukwu emeka chukwu-merije is more relevant than Victor Umeh.

Until you stop being a South-eastern Nigeria, you cannot take your place in Nigeria.
Awka, Enugu, Abakaliki, Aba, etc are not the FTC and until you can either play at the FTC or fight for the FTC you are not ready for the business of developing your people's interest in particular and Nigeria in general.

The truth must be told (even if you no like am)

Long live Nigeria![/quote]If your opinion is not appreciated or needed and you only get insults in return, it's much better to just keep it away! Remember the saying cast not your pearls before the swine lest they trample on them and then turn around and tear you!

PointB: I don't really have much time on my hand now, least of all, time to respond to all manners of foolishness and sub-intelligent assertions. Just note one thing, Nigeria is headed for the rocks. If it does survive it, there is NO, repeat, NO political permutation that will throw up a youroba presidency before Igbo. But then, some of you are just too 'sophisticated' to rationalise simply stuff. I reckon it's best to allow you (all) wallow in your inanity, that is powered by hateful sentiments! Carry go, nothing do you!

But why do you resort to all this insults for people who you don't know and who are simply making their opinion public? Yes, you are Ibo, but why do you take out your frustration on the OP and people who are contributing to the thread? I will only remind you that hatred for them will not get you anywhere and Hausas and Yorubas know this too well, and although a minority of Ibos may be less hateful of other Nigerians, it seems the hatred of the majority will always be the yardstick of judgement for you people. I suggest, like the OP, that you tone down this hatred. Whether or not Ibos become president before Yorubas, you might want to know that even if Ibos attain the presidency before the Yorubas and the Yorubas afterwards, the number of years for the Yorubas will still be greater. However, that will not be a problem, the real problem will be that since the Northerners and Westerners know of the hatred towards them from Ibos, how are you going to influence them to get them to vote for you? It is obvious that the Hausas are more likely to vote for a Yoruba candidate and vice versa with the Yorubas ahead of the Ibos, how are you going to change that and correct this image problem? Rather than throw around insults, it would be more beneficial to fix this major problem first before anything else.

Wish him well! Swagger!

The retardeenic GEJ is the biggest error in Nigerian leadership Nigeria has ever made and will be forced to live through! I hope you folks are loving your fresh air and with many Nigerians having sold their soul for a piece of their own pie, you will suffer long in this slavery!

Some people will cry a river today because of this development! ^^

talktimi: Gej is at fault

Quite right! The retardeen killed the EFCC much quicker than Yaradua was doing! If there was a functional EFCC, cases like these would be significantly reduced and well prosecuted and justice delivered mor consistently so yes, it is the retadeen GEJ's fault! (I know you thought you were being sarcastic).

I haven't downloaded the game but I am very curious to try it out! Will there be a release for the iPhone or is it only on Android? I recently had to switch to my iPhone because of work (development) and I don't have time to go and pick up my Android just for this game. Will there be anything for the iPhone?

You should always marry in a place where you will be treated like a human being and much better than what you are currently facing now. If for some reason, you lose your life now be sure no one will even worry much as the Chime bagger marries another woman! A woman is not supposed to be sold as a property due to a high bride price, but your partner!

Why isn't Ngozi and other Ibos responding to my question? If Ibos are not able to stay by themselves as a region controlling all their resources, how will they logically except to thrive in their own country (if it happens?)??

ngozievergreen: I guess yorubas don't live in the shanties named ado ekiti,abeokuta, ibadan,oshogbo,akUre;that's y Most cities in the south look better than them.
I also guess from the post above that lagos is no longer a cosmopolitan city.
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Left for yorubas alone , lagos will just be another ibadan_ the biggest slum in africa

Will you and your people support regionalism because it is clear that until Yorubas and Ibos moderate the over-familiarity, both sides will continue this back and forth. I would have preferred sovereign countries but from the tone of the current leadership of Nigeria, the ideas about this conference (if true) and a corrupt elite that will not allow their cash cows to go in peace to form independent countries, the next best thing is regional governments like practiced before Ironsi killed it with his decree 34 and instituted Unitary government.

A regional government will surely engender the type of healthy competitiveness that Nigeria needs in its federating units in order to lift the country up. As a secondary benefit, constituents can really be recognized by superior administration and policy actions leading to better economies and a better life and then we will see what Yorubas and Ibos can do by themselves. Will Ibos support regionalism??

A slave is always looking up to the master, no wonder 3 slaves just responded to only one post! Do it again and quote this post too! Eru eru eru erus !!

This looks like desperation by Obi. Why are there no people at this commissioning or was this a photo opportunity (photo OP)?? It's very funny that there is no one behind them in the picture, no crowd, does it mean no one is aware of this event? And was it a special day that almost all of them including Obi are wearing clothes with Ojukwu's picture on it? Is this what they all wear everyday or this was more of a campaign photo op??

In the first picture, the group of men standing on the bridge seem not to be going towards the people commissioning the bridge, why? Is it that they know the bridge has already been opened so there is no incentive or newness to attract them to go closer to the event? In the second picture, only the people wearing Ojukwu's ankara are in the picture, no one else, why is that? Hmmm...this looks like a sham and an attempt to hoodwink the gullible Ibos for the sake of the election.

emk4lif: I don't know what the fuss is all about, any interested person should simply visit Uniport precisely the library of the department of animal and environmental biology on the third floor of the Ofrima Faculty OF Science Building, I believe it is readily available,he's a marine biologist and thus most of his research work has been on tropical fishes and the niger delta marine environment...he is also a fellow of the fisheries society of nigeria
The fact that you might not agree with his policies does not excuse this increasingly obsessive attacks on his person, criticisms can be made constructively and not hate speech

But why are people getting MAD at other people for DEMANDING his thesis? If I were in PH, I would go right there and ask for the thesis, what is GEJ and his paid lapdogs afraid of? Look, when you see a man who is yet to be accused, start defending himself before being accused, you can be sure that 99% of the time, he is guilty! No one is saying he does not have a thesis or that he bought it or he arm-twisted Uniport or supervisor whatever to grant him a Ph. D because he was already in government - a brazen case of academic fraud! The question is why are his paid 40-lapdogs pushing back so hard if he is not guilty or hiding something? I would guess that the thesis either 1. DOES NOT EXIST (meaning mago-mago to get a Ph. D) 2. Very low quality work not worthy of a Ph. D (or B. Sc really) 3. Exposes his low-level of mental capability because of the wateriness of whatever academic credentials he likes to show. One thing I know for sure is SOUND, academically gifted students are always PROUD of their work and results and need no invitation or advice before they begin to tell you about it! While I was in graduate school, I was more than happy to share my knowledge about electron-atom interactions in matter at the nanoscale with people who were just really curious about some research paper I was writing or just published! Yes, you might want to be modest by not telling them you scored an A+ in a course but surely if someone asks, you tell them with a smile. Even sometimes when I was in Ife and I get an average result like a B or C, I could communicate my disappointment to whoever I was talking to but I would somehow mention of the ones I scored A's in and that I scored perfect 5.0 GPA twice in engineering! So why is the president hiding his academic records and thesis?

Katsumoto: I was wondering context I may have missed.

Ojukwu wasn't stupid. He made the same statement. He then further clarified that statement to ensure that there was no ambiguity or sarcasm. And I suspect he did that because folks in Alaigbo were questioning why he made that statement. If Ojukwu wanted to keep everyone guessing, he wouldn't have provided clarity in a book.

Yet someone is talking about context. What freaking context.

Very MUCH AGREED! When any quotes of Ojukwu which support the Biafra War surfaces, you never hear any Ibo mention "context" but when the same man made any comment otherwise, then someone remembers "context" and feels it necessary to correct Ojukwu's quote and tell us the interpretation as though we read his quotes in sign language initially!