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skywalker001:
I asked simple qstn, what is the source of their(pastors) money
U'r telling me jesus had benz sheep, versace garments and gucci sandal

Is jesus giving dem monie spiritually

Just tell us his source of income and save us frm reading epistle

Did God bless Solomon spiritually.
Why are you wasting ur time over a pastor Datz incharge of over 200,000 blessed congregations every sunday.
If u hv issues with him, y nt settle it with God, or beta still remain a pagan.

skywalker001:
Then jesus and his 12 disciples(mayb excluding judas) shud av bin the richest pple eva liveth or mayb we shud qstn their gospel like u said

Were they poor?.
I mean wretched nd begged for bread?.

GeneralOjukwu:


I am guessing Chapters 2 & 6.....read them well

Mark Zuckerberg and Bill Gates attend your awesome church abi? Aliko Dangote too?

Bro bck in 2012, I was among the team tackling this man in argument,while listing D aircraft's nd things I believed he did wrong.
In 2017 m a full winner, blessed nd continue to ask God for mercies for being so stupid.
If u knw anyone who attends this church,he can tell u one thing. we hv less than 3minutes for offering nd Tithes combined inwhich u do with an envelop nd no one cares to knw if u do or not.
Nd we move on to d word, bt we are still blessed.
I just pray dat God will enlighten u, dat one-day u will understand what it actually means to be a genuine child of God. I mean a child of d most high God.

podosci:
You lack understanding of What you saw or yo just lied , For example.
There was a time a jazz man would have used a solar eclipse as a display to show his powers deceiv you but fast forward to 2017 and even a child knows what causes a solar eclipse.
There was a time people believed twins were some form of spiritual evil but fast forward to 2017 and a jazz man would recommend for them to be killed but in 2017 we all know better.
There was a time sickle cell deseice was seen as a form of evil of which a jazz man would try to cure but fast forward to 2017 and we all know to be carefully when getting married due to different blood groups.

This is just a few examples of things that were beyond the understand of humans but are now fully understand and solutions have been prefered but We being in Africa makes our situation worst due to limits in our understanding and explanation of certain physical phenomenons due to our poor literacy level and backwardness in all fields of life(Medicine, engineering, Theoretical physics etc)

The level of spirituality that can be so powerful to pull stunts like such involves a lot of sacrifice(Blood sacrifice), many virgins has bn buried, kids murdered, men buried alive just to raise these evil alters.
Dnt expect science to explain these things to you, the whites knw abt it nd as well D level of commitment involved datz y dey practice in secret behind scene.
This is Africa dear, I Dnt knw if you are an atheist scientist or not,bt Dnt even try to dismiss D fact that the spiritual realm is real.
There's no need emphasizing much on this, probably u hvnt bn privileged to witness one of such events before.
Just Dnt put all your faith in science, there are things far beyond deir comprehension.

UrennaNkoli:
Magic is "real," only in ways that will be unsatisfying to you. For example: magic is real in the sense that you can deceive other people into thinking magic is real. Typically, this is what a magician does for entertainment. Less typically, this is what a con artist does for money.

You can go to any magic dealer online or in person, and for a relatively small amount of money gain a "magical power," say to levitate a small object. But that magical power will be a very cleverly designed and concealed rig that lifts the object with conventional means.

Magic is also "real" in the sense that people have, historically, believed in it. A small number of people still believe in it. But it's real only in their minds, not in reality.

I have actually had of a spell known as pin casting(were pins will be invoked and casted via air to penetrate into human bodies),I thought through it nd considered it one of those tales of moonlight.
Until my friend became a victim, it all started as fever, typhoid,every medical measure was taken bt the sickness still prevailed. Until one man who also is knowledgeable in d field got him notified,that it's not medical bt spiritual.
"FACT" He went to the traditionalist who specializes on that field, nd d man told him that he has over 35pins in his body, that no human being has actually survived that much, that truly God is on his side.
This man right before the eyes of my friend removed the pins from his body, as he feels his flesh nd gets to the place were the pins are, he will draw it out with his teeth.
I wasn't just informed,i was privileged to c the pins myself.
Nd he is now 100% healed,nd I believed myself.
It is obvious to you that there is sensual wisdom, medical wisdom, why actually have you found it difficult to believe that there are spiritual wisdom?.
My dear ur carnal mind is what has actually kept you deluded,cos it totally has no place in the realm of the spirit.
Can u tell me how a man can use a plane mirror, or a pan of water as CCTV?.
Traditionalist do that a lot nd a lot of people who have bn privileged to c it can vouch for it.
SUMMARY: Spirituality is not understood it's simply believed,accepted,applied and the evidence is sure.
NB:I saw the pins myself nd I believed.
Weda u choose to believe or not, it's real.
Nd if u hv gone through most of d stories told here u will c dat deir re a lot of them that lacks complete explanation, nd d people here hv no reasons to lie.

UrennaNkoli:
Its simple. Its a modified cutlass. It has two edges, a sharp one and a blunt one. The sharp blade is very thin and easily retractible into the the blunt one. When it was time to test it on a not human subject, It was the sharp blade that was used. As soon as a human subject was brought, a tiny bolt attached to the modified cutlass is shifted and the sharp blade retracts into the blunt one which makes only the blunt one now visible and usable. What you call magic or voodoo are mere palour tricks.

Another one is a makeup artist making a custom body on the human. Like a dummy thick body that looks real. There are so many tricks out there. If you open your eyes well, you will see. There is nothing like magic. All those only occur in meidieval movies

Seriously bro, dis things re real,stop being deceived by Hollywood movies.
Even d whites knw, datz y dey hv words like witchcraft voodoo nd magic.
Watch Harry power, supernatural nd some of deir horror movies, u will c dat dey knw abt dis too well.
Hw abt satanists(illiminati nd d masons) u think itz a club for secular discussions.
Spirituality nd science re opposite spectrums,so Dnt expect science to explain spirituality.
Spirituality begot science,nt D oda way round.
I appreciate ur effort to dig into things to find meaning, bt we all knw dat deir re more to dis Dan what we knw.
Lets admit it, nd by the grace of God we may knw more tomorrow.
Mind u, no mata hw grown we may get in science we can Neva knw it all.
No one actually does except God.

Transcends:
How do I experience life in the spiritual realm bro?

By first knowing nd understanding dat u re nt just human like science said bt gods(psalm 82:6 )day Is a spirit.

Tayeni:
if I go to hell....you will be there waiting for me sir. There is a scientific explanation for everything. The fact that we don't know it all doesn't mean we should stop learning or asking questions or researching. But scumbags and nitwits such as you sir will rather deify phenomena you don't understand.

The thing is I believe in God...I'm very sure not the same god you believe in......cos my God would rather have humans seek knowledge about this garden which is the only way to dominate the earth and the universe than be lethargic(and rolling in the muck of ignorance).

I don't even know where to start with you or maybe to just ignore you. your mata weak me. Im not a condescending person on a normal day....but I'm pretty sure we are not thinking on the same wavelength. Your stupidity takes the cake sir.

LOLZ. we re actually nt fighting Bro, all of us including I myself wnts science to keep on improving.
Tnk God u believe in God nd nt D gullible annoying atheist.

Afrokan:
If science can do a successful ppenis transplant what stops from saying the doctors use jazz?

Mtcheeww!!! nd m suppose to strt waiting my time typing rubbish so u can understand.
U beta hv a spiritual anchor in dis world before u pass on or else u will just be surprise of what the devil has done to u through science.
Nd D best option still remains Christ.
Dey deir dey talk poo.

Afrokan:
Oyibo people are deceiving you with android phones, laptop, cars, cement, Internet but our jazz can not cure common meningitis, We still need the Deceitful Oyibo people to provide us with a vaccine.
If not for the Oyibo people, One jazz man would use a solar eclipse to device you not knowing that it's a natural occurring phenomenon

Oga dis re spiritual things Mr, what re u saying.
Which one b oyibo man?. m I doubting science,no!!!.
I just decided nt make it my God, nd here u re crying fowl because it's clear Dat ur wisdom has taken u no were.

Afrokan:
Oyibo people are deceiving you with android phones, laptop, cars, cement, Internet but our jazz can not cure common meningitis, We still need the Deceitful Oyibo people to provide us with a vaccine.
If not for the Oyibo people, One jazz man would use a solar eclipse to device you not knowing that it's a natural occurring phenomenon

Oga dis re spiritual things Mr, what re u saying.
Which one b oyibo man?. m I doubting science,no!!!.
I just decided nt make it my God, nd here u re crying fowl because it's clear Dat ur wisdom has taken u knw were.

Finestbae1:
All these things don't happen. They are mostly lies jare. Where I stay in VGC, our next compound neighbour said his wife was told she would die if she doesn't give to a begged. Now 5years, she's still alive and kicking.

Who is lying to u, for what? .Keep deceiving itself or let oyibo people keep deceiving u.
U think D writer of Harry Potter was just fictions, or simply because u Dnt c dem use powers doesn't mean dey don't hv one.

Tayeni:
you are very lousy liar my friend. No be you talk say belle disappeared just like that?...now it haff turned to....."she born bomboy".
I can smell lies from a million miles away...I'm that good....lol

Bros no vex Abeg Mr atheist no vex. leave d girl her own could b fibroid sir, y nt decipher oda complicated issues deir with ur brain since u hv one.

Tayeni:
There is always a scientific explanation for things my friend.

There can't b a scientific explanation to everything my friend, even your number one(Atheist) mentor (Richard Dawkins) made that statement clear.
Science very good bt instead of using it to study what God has created nd b grateful to him by serving him, u decide to be the God nd use science to create him.
C ur life!!!!.
All those things abt juju re jokes to my experiences in the spiritual realm.
Keep fooling ursrlf nd nt turn to Christ until u see ursrlf in hell.

dapsonlou:
My brother because most Nigerian still believe in this backward fairytales is the Reason we don't Have electricity in 2017.
Happy Sunday bro

LOLZ. I Dnt think so bro, because even the politicians embezzling our funds hv no beliefs whatsoever,they all could b regarded even as atheist posing inside Islam or xtianity.
To me I believe our problems in Nigeria starts with tribalism, favouritism nd oda factors.
Bt dat doesn't change d fact that spiritual things re real, it's very very very real, I even hv bn privileged to experience many myself.
Bt d fact is dat spiritual laws violates all scientific laws even from its foundation, because it doesn't even work with human reasoning, datz y scientist regard it non existence because dey cant fathom it just like God.
Never u forget that Asians still believe a lot in spiritual things,even developed nations like China.
U replied that message with a Vry good sense of humor, I appreciate dat level of maturity.

dapsonlou:
So oyinbo who dey stuck together use Magun too abi? Oyinbo People get stuck all the time and Ambulance is called. I use to Work at the Hospital while I was in College. At least once a week someone will coming in with a broken koboko, or Gay guys will coming in for mouse stuck in their azzhole and couples stuck together, mostly cheating wives

One thing about u guys is dat u guys also lieeee a lot, which makes me wonder whose son u guys re.
Go Villa like aro izuogu in Imo state nd some
primitive dark places in Africa nd c things for ur self.
Science Cnt even study spiritual things because it doesn't even need ur brain or sight to function,bt faith nd d wisdom of d demon incharge.
Instead of u accepting D fact nd reality in ur Villa to knw if there is a way to make use of it positively. u re here talking of science.
People involved are telling hw real dis things re instead of believing them u would rather believe oyibo science, nd after u will say Dat u re free frm slavery.

Adeoba10:
Bro, na me u write this epistle for? Anyway, the more you look, the less you see..... U talk like a kid/ indomie generation..... All of you saying that there z nothing like money ritual bcus the herbalist looks poor, i pray our family will not be their victims. Those herbalist knows the repercussion of all these rituals, main reason why they don't do such.... If you wanna comfirm wetther juju dey or not, please just come to ITOKU MARKET, here in ABEOKUTA

Bro u actually have time to listen to the explanation of those fools, na person wey Neva c something dey talk rubbish.

destinysaid:
sorry bro, u was with u until that s particular argument.


The bible speaks of the original preachers of Gods word, the lsreal tribe that produced priests as being poor, living in poverty and receiving tithe cause they did no WORK. this system continued even to d days of the apostles of Jesus Christ. Remember the man that Jesus told to sell His properties before joining him? That's how our pastors are suppose to be. If u believe in the Bible and spirituality like I do, then u Knw money is a spirit, the more you acquire, the more you don't want to lose it and the more it slowly corrupts d mind. Money humility and love of God is a very rare MIX, which I must say is lacking in most of our pastors. Just check it out


Every Sunday if u noticed, revelation is hardly touched, but therein contains a powerful message about the coming of Jesus and how to detect FAKE servants of God. Not only revelation but many other books and verses in the Bible are omitted aswell.

I noticed that if a pastor says open to say psalm 29:5, he is most likely trying to take the verse out of context. What I do these days is to read a few verses BEFORE and AFTER the mentioned verse.

One more thing, plz Dnt compare the artists to pastors, they are not equal, or suppose to appear equal, remember, don't be unequally yoked with unbelievers? It also translates to their livestyle.

My question though is, why is bill gates, one of the leading billionaire and atheist in this world more charitable than our so called pastors?

Why do these pastors walk around with heavy body guards, but tell us the lirs is our protection?

Why do they fear persecution and death (what happened to being a martyr, if they die, another will surely take their place as have been for centuries)(without the apostles death I Dnt think Christianity would HV spread so far, death of a ersin is a powerful way to spread a message as seen through history)

Why do they get to be called papa etc? What happened to humility?
Why do they buy hoverboards, fancy new suits, and things if the world? ( luxurious pastors, you Knw them) what happens to humility??






P.S Dnt quote me to spew trash, I live my life for the bible by the Bible nt by a pastor

u CNt b spewing trash, wen we re of d same team. The only thing is dat we could hv different views concerning a particular subject.
Mind you, the reference on d musicians is nt based on being of d same level with our pastors bt on d basics dat dey re d ones being cherished by the unbelievers, nd dey re also D ones sponsoring them ignorantly.
I respect ur views so much sir bt u must also agree with me Dat money is very necessary for d growth of every organisation even the church.
Hw do u think Christians gt to nations were Christianity is banned?. hw do u think churches re still spread today, how do you think other needful projects in the church re handled.
Do you expect us to preach Christ nd b like the children of d devil, being hunger stricken nd on rags?.
Remember Dat no one dat worked with Christ was ever poor(Abraham,isaac,jacob,moses,solomon ,Joseph nd even Jesus himself was never pitied or begged).Money is not evil bt d love of it is.
Inasmuch as I get ur views, Wealth is also vry needful for us to get the message of Christ across to all nations of d earth. PEACE

Bollinger:
Religious weirdo. He talks as if he had any consciousness before he was born which of course he didn't. How da phuck does he think he will any consciousness when he dies? Just they want to live forever by any means possible, they will believe in unicorns if need be. What a people. Smh.

When you die!! u will knw.
D worst part is dat what ever outcome u c, u alone will face it.
Bt what if m wrong in christ(actually m living D life I still wish for) after all when I die I remain unconscious forever.No regrets, bt what if u wrong?... I guess u knw what follows nxt.
Nd seriously somewhere down ur soul u knw u re,i just pray ur ego will just let u b.

seguno2:
I didn't know that your scam artist rhapsody rhymer is at the same level as "Davido, wizkid, phyno, d banj".
Thanks for letting us know.
Bravo.

No they re nt the same at all.
Nt in fame, nt in relevance, nt in glory, nt in grace, nt in love, nt in sanity, nt even of d same goal.
Dey re simply D ones u pleased with, nd ignorantly celebrate their flamboyant lifestyle.
That's y I got them involved.

seguno2:
Great things like setting up and running primary schools and health clinics that are heavily subsidised?
Can you share a list of such Nigerian gods of men doing that?
Thanks

You start by telling me, how many artists like Davido, wizkid, phyno, d banj that have done such ND I will answer ur questions.
Bt ur ignorance will Neva let you knw that it is your money that they are indirectly squandering, nd at d end have nothing for d society bt help in its decadence nd even show off deir luxurious wrist watches nd cars, bt instead of u citicising them you go to there shows nd pay thousand of naira just to dance.
We are the ones giving them the money nt you, I don't knw y datz an issue to you.
Nd mind you Matthew 6:3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:Matthew 6:4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.
Dnt expect them to tell you all they do, Co's is simply against d rule of d kingdom, they ought to obey God bt man.
So yes they do more than dat bt u won't knw Co's they won't tell.

johnydon22:
People has been saying that for more than 2000 f**cking years and these people include Jesus himself, peter and paul and pretty much every important character in the new testament and then through out the medieval times.

further more we hear that sh*t like literally everyday from Christians around the world. Now Pastor Chris says it and suddenly it becomes News?

what makes that more special or how does pastor Chris saying it make it any less bullsh*t?

N.B: Anyway important question to all christians, can someone tell me what pastor chris is doing with all the money he is raking in when Jesus is coming soon, doesn't that mean you don't really need all the millions since they aren't needed once jesus comes?

ask yourselves; Do they really believe what they preach?

No!!they should go hungry, wear rags, ride bicycles, live in huts and even beg u for food, before you believe there words.
U would rather prefer Niki Minaj,kim Kardashian,p square on a private jet,indirectly with ur money, than a preacher who spreads the word of life, who preaches peace, bring hope to all, ND preach salvation to mankind,which is the most important thing in life.
Question:If God blesses me through them, why shouldn't I bless God through them?.I mean they say every lover is a giver,so as a genuine lover of Jesus, if I Dnt give to him who else will I give to...
Inasmuch as m nt a fan of d fake pastors that curb money for there self glory (which Christ before time warned us of), there are still genuine ones out there that use it for gr8 things.

Bollinger:
You are funny. You are still basing your beliefs on the fact that because you cannot explain a thing it is because of some God. Smh. Religious people are just fantastic.

Sorry for wasting my time talking to u sir.
Continue with ur sight, time will tell, probably wen u live d world nd fail to sleep forever as u guys believe.
Itz obvious that D only thing dT can change d h8 of ur likes is JESUS himself.
Like I said m so sorry for wasting all my time trying to show u d light, forgetting dat ur mind is blind.

MOSICATED5:
obviously u still dont have a reason for hating what she did. Don't fe blinded by religion. Who told u that image is Mary mother of Jesus. And what is wrong in trying to look like a woman favoured by God Almighty?

She should use anything that is sacred to Islam, nd dey will tell her.
Simply because we re in the Grace era, itz obvious how people can abuse love.
1 Corinthians 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
I wonder what has bn prepared for those that hate him?.
I guess they will c when they get there.

Bollinger:
Do you even realize how incredibly naive that bold statement of yours is? It's is like asking a child why don't they know everything from birth. And like is i said, just because you can't explain it means that is was God's doing. Lol. You people are amazing. I'd rather live in a world where there is no God than in your make believe world. I've had a belly full of the horrors your kind has meted to generations for thousands of years.

Make believe? nd has survived these years,believed by over 2.2billion people in d world, with mysteries nd wisdom, miracles nd power everywhere.
Nd u believe he's a make believe?.
You hv studied enough of Dawkins books,why not sincerely ask Jesus to reveal himself to you nd pick up your Bible nd go through the book of John,or beta still watch javi Zacharias videos or read his books, nd c why D devil wnts to damn you as an atheist eternally even though u hv bn liberated eternally.

Bollinger:
Guy, you've just said it. Just because you cannot explain somethings there must be a God. Ok. I hear you. Do you know how irrational that sounds? God is a receding pocket of scientific ignorance that gets smaller and smaller as time goes on. You know what that means? It means that as time goes by, the excuse that because we can't explain it then God did it, will not be an excuse anymore. Science is making discoveries everyday to explain what would have been inexplicable a thousand years ago. In the stone age, a rainbow was a miracle, morning dew was God's doing, the stars shinning in the sky at night was God's work. Bro's, start educating yourself or you will be no better than a caveman.

Seriously re they all not D lords doing, or do science control our galaxy?.Common sense can tell u,that as a student for the fact that u hv a puzzled assignment means there is inevitably a teacher.Why not tell me why we need thousand of years to learn everything whereas everything was perfect before we even came here.
Do u actually know that science as big as it is, are only bt secondary producers, meaning dat everything made by man was gotten from a primary source(water,sand,air,trees,gold,e.t.c)nd these things were perfectly organized by something, d food chain, the food web,the solar system, the universe as a whole perfectly tuned by what?... NATURE Lolz .
Nd Pls go through the scriptures nd tell me were we had time for the moon nd stars.
To atheist incest,abortion,pornography,homo sexual, lesbianism,adultery,fornication,suicide,nd even murder are based on one's perspective inwhich case I knw u believe dey re all OK,a visionless life filled with anguish nd sorrows, trying to create what doesn't exist.
Live nd fight for something reasonable instead of living for nothing.
I can't even imagine how you live knowing you serve yourself.
you don't believe in d invisible bt ordinary air u believe in, you Havnt seen.
Accept Christ today nd b wise, I knw most of you are on d run based on one crime or d oda, bt he's enough to make u whole.

Bollinger:
Lol. You think i have never faced tough problems in my life? It's called adversity and overcoming them. Everyone goes through it/them. It is only in Nigeria that when faced with issues it is the "devil" work.

Excess of Richard Dawkins nd Christopher hitchins jokes with oda selfish atheist has actually turned ur mind nd hearth against God.
All I can say is dat non of ur mentors deep down them actually believe what they preach including urself, if u can tell ur self D truth.Because deir is a part of us that no matter what science does d vacuum must remain empty nd datz d (soul) bt simply because 95% of atheist re selfish,proud,men who think that being an adult has actually given then enough knowledge to understand what transpired in d world dey claim to hv existed for billions of years.
I would rather live in d world with Muslim's, Dan with atheist who hv no moral values whatsoever bt live based on personal perspective.

BigBrother9ja:
You people just don't have sense
If he's truly power, he should force it down my throat nau.
You think it's only Christians that will make eternal life?
Others who have their religious books and don't believe in your Bible will perish?
Your lord Jesus that was screaming for help on the cross? Someone who couldn't save himself?
Some that said "father father, WHY HAVE THOU FORSAKEN ME? JOKERS
Nonsense

If he had bn D Muslim God,he would hv done dat perfectly, probably send u to meet ur god vry early or sleep forever as D so called Atheist believe.
Bt no,he actually has never asked you to forcefully believe in him, bt to knw what he actually has done for u.
I wonder hw u draw meaning from living for urself, probably cos of one thing or d oda,bt D fact remains dat he loves u.

BigBrother9ja:
So that is necessary to make you a child of a "merciful" God?
An innocent man must die?
God needs a human blood sacrifice to forgive sins?

What a very senseless tale.. .

So stupîd

Every one who doesn't want to serve him like u, will always find a reason or argument to justify there conscience, so as to continue living a selfish life.
Believe me itz allowed, he's nt compeling you to belief, I mean u knw if u one of d members of d oda religion u dare not!! try it or face D consequences, bt ur likes were able to c d light of d day today based on his generosity.
Y should u enforce the truth, when the truth is already true?No reason absolutely.
U only allow the gullible to continue in there ignorance,since they think they knw beta.
I just pray u accept him before u meet him one day, Co's it will be a disaster.
JESUS IS LORD OVER ALL!!

Judas2013:
Emotional Christians lol. Was Mary a virgin? Okay maybe before Yahweh " knewed" her

M I supposed to insult you?.NOO!!.
U can most gladly continue in ur ignorance till u meet Yahweh. He knows hw to handle ur likes.

alezzy13:
i see

U actually see nothing sir, other than foolishness.
Many hv actually tried to suggest y Africa remains under developed, nd I must tell u that one of our major problems in Africa is "inferiority complex".
Where every average man tries to mimic nd belief the whites in everything they say or do without thinking.
This is Africa nd many have attested to this as juju(spiritual stuff), bt the gullible ones will always argue otherwise, even after I nd oda people hv not just supported bt hv shared there experiences,yet they will debunk it with there foolish logical reasoning.
The last time I saw this case, the man involved had his Tommy nd almost his chest glued to the lady. That the elders had to wrap both of them on a mat Co's he couldn't even raise his head.
I bet he will come bck here to tell me Dat,that one is called "Body captivitus" nd dat it has bn recorded to occur before in Paris 1472.
Mttchhhwwww. Raw spiritual ignorance.