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lioness:
Oh My! Does that mean i've been eating humans yet to evolve LMAO

hot-angel:
Yeah i was thinking about that, but nope,  If u want to vote u have to look at the whole pages. That's what u get for not being on the page earlier. We can't just choose one picture for each contestants. So u have to view all the pictures they have here, and vote whom u like. One vote per person!

@ Queenzy, will do.

Ohh i need to write a note to Mr. Admin now,  ok y'all,  ONE more LADY to go,  WHo will that be? If two ladies come up, well we'll shift to 16. But we need 15 tho,  anyways all good.

hmmmm, little problem there, Ms. sexy seraphim,

U see, many of us (voters) are in BAD OLD NAIJA, and so cannot easily skip back/forth between pages of the forum! our net acces here is horrible.

Also, reloading some of the BIGGER PICTURES (yes, i mean yours, Bisanke) is a real pain!

pls spare a thought for us underprivileged 3rd-worlders! we want to vote, too!

Also, Lady Charming Cherubium,  it helps the contestants if we see more of their pictures. Some really good ones are buried real deep!

Thanks a lot !

@nferyn read the rest of my comment!

Im not saying that just because you want it, it is true!

I'm saying that IF IT WAS POSSIBLE YOU WOULD PREFER IT!

now put yourself in the shoes opf a guy who does not want to bother himself learning science!

he just wants a quick explanation that will give him inner peace!

you get where I'm coming from now, shey?

JESUS CHRIST PEOPLE!!!!

stop this insanity!!!!

this is not a discussion! Its just two sets of people blowing their respective trumpets and REFUSING TO LISTEN TO EACH OTHER!!!!


look, people. Learning science is not for everyone. If you already learnt it, GREAT!!!! GO ON TO DO GREAT THINGS!!!! the rest of the masses are CONTENT WITH SIMPLE SPIRITUAL EXPLANATIONS!!!!!  with what you know about science, the idea of man being created out of a dust statue and 'breathed into' may sound like COMPLETE ARRANT NONSENSE, but to the guy who has NEITHER THE TIME NOR INCLINATION  to read about extended phenotypes IT IS A SIMPLE, SHORT AND QUICK ANSWER TO THE QUESTION HE HAS IN HIS HEAD!!!!!! DO NOT TAKE THAT AWAY FROM HIM!!!!! IF YOU KEEP TRYING HE WILL PICK UP A GUN AND SHOOT YOU!!!!!

Plus it fuels his ego!

NFERYN, KA1, TV01, IF YOU HAD A CHOICE WOULDN'T YOU RATHER BE DIVINE SONS OF GOD THAN A MONKEY'S NEPHEW? Obviously if you had a choice, YOU WOULD!!!! the fact that basic science proves it that that is preposterous means NOTHING to a person  THAT CANNOT GRASP THE CONCEPTS OF BASIC SCIENCE AND LOGIC IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!!!


seperate the spiritual from the physical. For the purposes of my spiritual health, I am a wonderful creation of God, made in his Image. I will attain spiritual upliftment and who knows? a comfortable afterlife by believing in this. However when pondering the physiological origins of thumb articulation, I will pick up my science book and derive my answer from the theory of evolution!

the spiritual and the physical are not in the same realm. attempting to reconcile them is an excercise in futility!

for God's sake @nferyn, you can't compress centuries' worth of Biological and biochemical information into a single forum post. Your quest is doomed to fail.

@sirwebs, @Eddy Tells, it is obvious that nferyn is convinced God does not exist! You can NOT convince him otherwise!

lets just end it here!

pesonally what I'd say is this: I have read all the scientific/evolutionary stuff, and my belief in GOD has not been shaken! Yes, that's right, I believe in GOD and I also believe in EVOLUTION!

unfortunately if you want to find out how this is possible I AM NOT GOING TO WASTE TIME ARGUING. I can only point you in the directions I had gone, and hope you try to follow them with an open mind. There are basic concepts that are COMPULSORY to grasp before you can understand biological theories like evolution!

Trying to teach people advanced biology without educating them on basic concepts is what leads to people talking rubbish about 'where are the apes? i didnt come from apes o! all people who are apes should go to their ape-god' and other unintellectual nonsense.

My advice: Go read your biology. Read Richard Dawkins. Read the Bible. The Quran. Learn the traditions of your religion- listen to theological discourse instead of just swallowing what pastor XXXXXX shovels down your throat as Gospel Truth.

Look for Knowledge! It's out there!

Abeg people lets close this topic. Moderator, where are u,

@nferyn,

Nah, I corrected myself already and gopt the paper copy. Yet to read it cover to cover tho. Pdf will help lots, thanks!

@Eddy tells,

Calling people fools and then proceeding to claim 'silence is the best answer' is just another way of saying you intend to sabotage a discussion. Normally I would have defended you, because there is nothing wrong with simply indicating that you agree with another poster (this was what nferyn picked on you for, I remember) but saying 'silence is the best answer to a fool' just reminds me of many secondary-school arguments that ended up in fist-fights.

@Lioness

I think nferyn was wrong to have picked on Eddy but his response was rather shocking. Somehow I dont feel right defending that kind of talk,

robert, richard, u know I keep making that mistake?

I actually put an order out at a bookstore for the blind watchmaker by ROBERT dawkins, and sat there waiting for ages, wondering why it never came! doh.

Thanks for setting me straight, again,

em, nferyn, many of us here dunno teh meaning of 'ad hominem'.

even if you said 'Against the man fallacy' it would still go over all our heads!!!

oh, me so stupid, me velly velly stupid,

On another note, sirwebs, if you want to understand how evolution comes about producing specialised oragns I'd recommend these books:

The selfish gene
and
The blind watchmaker

by Robert Dawkins.

The topic is beyond the scope of this forum, but please understand that the process of evolution is by no means random and haphazard- it is self-ordering in an *emergent* way. I'm sorry I had to use that word, but its the only way I can stuff such a topic into such a small place.

In any case, I think it shouldnt be hard to accept that the spirit is created by God and the fleshy body is akin to that of an ape. Personally I think that it is even more insulting to religious sensibilities to claim that the body is in the image of God. It is the SPIRIT and not this smelly, sinful, blood-and-sweat-suppurating meat sack that is in the image of God.

*shaking head * Another one!!!! Lawd have mussy,

I propose we move to purchase bullet-proof vests for the judges.

These women are so HOT that whoever wins, there will be a crowd of crazed gun-toting warriors bent on avenging their jilted sweethearts!

I am so glad I'm not a judge!!!

Anyway I'm cleaning ma shotgun n gettn ready to cut loose on TeH JuDgEzzzz if ma queenzy don't win! w00t! 

jazz?!

God in Heaven.

davidylan:
Darkman, take it easy. Obviously you live in Nigeria and have never seen the new "ask.com" adverts. they use monkeys to simulate those who use other search engines. The advert has been running on tv for a month now.

It's just an advert bro. Be careful with your language!

laughs!!!!!  

davidylan, i was just pulling your legs! do u actually believe I'd damn you to hades?

"Damn you, saffron!!!! Damn you to Hades!!!! I, I shaved off my BEARD for you!!!! Devil woman!!!!!!!"



but, but, as for me being a Munnunnunnnnkeiiiiii, what I still say is,


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!



On a serious note:  thats the only problem people REALLY have with evolution. They refuse to accept the fact that they are descended from lowly apes despite the overwhelming evidence all over their not-particularly-divine and very-certainly-animalistic bodies. Not any logical reason. Its just that when someone looks at you and says:

"You Are An Ape"

it sounds like an insult!


personally I'd put it this way. your SOUL, which makes you a Child Of God (TM) was made by GOD himself (which is why u cant see it, duuuuuh) and put inside a fleshy vessel (with selfish needs and desires that drive you to SIN) that was descended from Apes. So the FLESH was descended from apes, but the SPIRIT is a creation of GOD! afterall its created in GOD's divine image, and since we cant see God the fact that we cant see the soul follows suit.

Or do u want to tell me that GOD has 2 legs 2 arms, a head with EYES ON THE FRONT (what a terrible location), a TAIL THAT IS COMPLETELY USELESS (except for opening and closing ya butthole so u dont stink up the place when ya farting away, does GOD fart?!?!??!) an Appendix for breaking down chorophyll, which we NO LONGER NEED TO DO (since we no longewr swing about de trees like our simian cousins in teh orang-utang gang) , a ridiculous arrangement where his reproductive organs and TOXIC WASTE DISPOSAL SYSTEM are forced to use the SAME body orifice, Sheeeeeesh!!!!!!

If u really believed in God u wouldnt claim that this fleshy vessel is anything like him. It is an Ape. Or at least it was one before the LORD breathed your spirit into it! rejoice!

mmhmmm,

hot girls everywhere!!!!

I was hoping to find some oooo-gly wannabes so I could make fun of em but, you are all so HOT!!!!! Gaddem!!!!! And just as i feel I have found my target (for yapping), she posts a picture that makes me go  , Thank God for multiple postings!!!!!


Snazzy woulda won (for me)  *simply* cos she has SOOO many pics that she looks incredible in, but she looks almost identical to my little cousin, so I'd feel like an incestuous cradle-snatcher if I voted for her!  

AT the end of the day my pick is queenzy for one reason an one reason alone: In real life I woulda ogled the rest of u like a confused elephant, but then I'd approach HER, cos she is RACKED (totally!) and I am a sucker for that!  

Go on, tear me apart!   At least I'm honest! (GoD BlEsS TeH RaCk, )


_{(but then there's chinani, (I hope the 'whoah!' I said on seein her pic didnt wake anyone) , and harmony, (for the love of GOD post more pictures- you alone are proof of his divinity, hallelujah!!!), God have mercy on teh sad and sorry men of dis world, )}

but, but, I use google!

does, does that make me a monkey too? A simian cousin of the orang-utang gang?!?!?!?!!!

Nooooooooooooooooo!

damn you davidylan! damn you to hades!!!!!

Please, eh, people!

Poor fluffy just wanted us to come reassure her that she's not a walking talking ape, like Uncle shege

Dont worry, fluffy, you're fearfully and wonderfully made in the everlasting image of our beloved creator lord and saviour! You are a wonderful and unique snowflake! You are special! You are beautiful! Just look at those lovely eyes.

Dont mind all those cold-hearted scientists and their evolution talk, joooooo. *hiss*. nonsense people.

However, Uncle shege and George Bush are different. They evolved from Muuunkeys, see? And they didnt just pop out of nowhere, but the monkeys were just, like, the 1,000,000th step in a very very long process that began with the formation of basic Amino acids in the primordial soup, a process that can be observed today.

Uncle Bonzo the Orangutang u see in the ZOO is not the thing that evolved into uncle shege and georgie bushy. Rather he has a common ancestor with them. And evolution is still taking place today, witness the changing lifespans, brain densities among human beings, and the changing colours of common dragonflies as they adapt to an industrial environment.

please all u wicked people, don't ruin my darling fluffy's day by claiming she is a glorified monkey. Maybe u are, but I certainly am not! See, I can use the internet. How many monkeys do u see that can use the Internet. *hiss*. Nonsense people.

Hmmm.

I see you remain steadfast. Hope you can teach any SS's that end up coming to earth as a result of that that there's nothing to it, 'tis just a small trial God is giving them (and you, of course) until he elevates them to Heavenly Glory (Amen)

*sigh* looks like the problem is here to stay, I guess.

eyaaa. Poor kids.

Anyway for what its worth, I'm a programmer by profession (and trade), hence the code conjuring thingy. Since I currently work for a Bank, the code I write these days is mainly arcane financial/statistical stuff (That makes for very boring conversation!!!)

@dearzi, I didn't say they were dumb or stupid, merely 'dull' in the academic sense. Shrewdness and cunning are not neccesarily akin to literary or logical ability. A girl who finds linear algebra and vector spaces confusing can still be very capable of cock-teasing her professor of mathematics into bankruptcy and public disgrace!

And 'tis flattering of you to ask for pictures, but given the nature of some of my comments in the past (just look at my posting history), I expect you will understand my desire to keep dakmanzero seperate from my day-to-day persona!

dude.

Posts like this are eroding ya credibility o

people who don't read your earlier posts will just assume you are a person supporting/justifying prostitution with no good reason

Many people will respond passionately/emotionally to statements like 'everybody has a price'

besides you yourself gave examples of girls going out with u without demanding anything in return.

This post just makes that statement sound like shameless self-praise rather than the insightful counter-example it once was!

Kind of like 'all girls have their price, but I, orikinla, am SUCH A BAD GUY that this chick was SO HOT FOR ME that she demanded NOTHING AT ALL!' obviously this is wrong, but it is the impression that is now being given,

just thot I should mention it,

em, dude calm down.

You should expect these personal attacks when you say something that demeans a listener by default.

Even if you want to prove a point that plytechnics are substandard or whatever, you still need to be diplomatic about it, or the many poly graduates out there will take it as a personal attack, and will respond without thinking, with curses and insults.

Rational discourse breaks down when sentiments and emotions are allowed to enter the fray.

Personally, my opinion is that an independent test be carried out by the institution to determine the education level of the employees. Blanket firing all HND holders is lazy and irresponsible, in my opinion.

Well put, @Zarah. I'll take it a step further, though.

Oftentimes people forget a simple part of the equation: a woman selling her body is not neccesarily a victim. Sex is not a singular act of giving: both sides give and recieve in equal measure. The man usually pays to compensate the woman for the greater risk (not of contracting an STD,of that they are equally at risk, but rather of getting pregnant), however nowadays with family planning methods in place, that risk is greatly mitigated.

The fools in the men-paying-for-sex equation are, in my opinion, the men. The girl gets to have sex AND get money AND get wined and dined AND wear what she wants, all for NOTHING!!! The man however is convinced he is too ugly to get a girl to agree to sleep with him for nothing, so he decides to part with his hard-earned cash.

Finally, there is the IMPORTANT distinction between the aristo babe phenomenon and the sugardaddy/alhaji phenomenon. One is HUMAN TRAFFICKING and SEXUAL SLAVERY and has NOTHING IN COMMON with aristoism except for the fact that the men are older and money is changing hands. The girls in this case are VICTIMS and in many cases never see the money they earn, it all goes to the love-vendor-mummy or whoever. Aristo girls are privileged. they CHOOSE their aristos THEMSELEVES, if a girl prefers guys who are handsome, or doesnt care if say he  resemble cockroach hegg for face as far as hin get moni for pocket, at the end its HER choice. And many aristo chicks know how to extract every penny they can for the minimum amount of sex. Afterall orikinla talked of one that got 10 grand for a hug and kiss, what the hell is THAT all about?

I hope u know that if u go against aristos the first persons to burn u alive will be the aristo chicks.

Many girls that are anti-aristo are probably intelligent, getting good grades in school, or privileged to study abroad/ come from wealthy families. Many aristo chicks are as dull as brass and know nothing more than how to flaunt themselves in front of men. The choice was simple: sell akara/oranges and get harassed by bus conductors, or sell sex and get harrased by ministers of state. w00t?!!

Disclaimer: As I said earlier on, before some ppl brand me a supporter of all things evil and an emissary of satan himself, these facts are simply factual observation and do not indicate whether or not I am in support of aristoism. My personal opinion is that it is ONLY the women who are entitled to an opinion on whether or not to support it, and men have no business controlling what they do or choose not to do.

well, micklplus, thats the issue.

they CAN explore other avenues.

but considering the situation, they probably WON'T.

so the question now is, how can we change the situation so that this is no longer a problem?

personally, I don't see it as a problem for the young guys. The simple solution is for them to forget about women and face their studies when in school. I dont consider it wise for a man to marry when in school, and Uni is such stress (at least in Science, Unilag) that a girlfriend will be nothing more than a major drawback.

Graduate, then u wont have any problem with aristos any more!

dude.

no-one is glorifying aristoism.

There is something called objectivity- you may want to look into it.

It means learning to look at a problem from more than just one dogmatic view.

Determining the true cause of something, rather than just shouting 'EVIL PEOPLE! DEVIL PEOPLE! GREED! CORRUPTION! BAD GOVERNMENT! NO MORAL FIBER! THA PITS O HELL!!!!!!!' does not mean you condone the activity.

If we determine the true cause of something that is identified as a problem, or even determine whether it IS a problem or not, we gain more than just sitting here and damning the rest of the world to Hell.

Dont treat discussions as if they are fights or competitions to see how many people can 'glorify' their own point of view. They are forums where all parties can benefiot from multiple points of view. And if you are unwilling to consider an alternate point of view, you are merely holding everyone back.

My personal opinion is that the dating-older-men-only phenomenon is a simple direct consequence of the situation here. And most girls that you would call aristo chicks are merely dating people they see as suitable for themselves. Dude, I graduated and started working at a relatively young age. I'm already driving a nice car and living on my own etc-etc, but once a girl learns I am no more than 1 or 2 years older than her she runs a mile! Because 'young man' equals 'man who will not marry you before you begin to whither away'. I dont care anyway, and I dont beef the Aristo's either. I still have MUCH more money to make myself, so if they want to flenjor they can! I just wont be joining em


PS: the sugerdaddy/alhaji phenomenon is NOT the same as 'aristoism' as you call it. That can hardly be seen as 'dating', so pls dont confuse the two!


and @kimba: the word aristo comes from Aristocrat. Should be self-explanatory from there.

simple answer:

In naija life is hard. As a young man you cannot afford to waste your time on women. Work hard at getting rich and forget the women. If you fail then too bad, you don't have what it takes. Leave the country.

If you DO become rich then you can take a wife from among the many young ones- because the older ones are either worn out and withered (prematurely) or married already (girls marry quickquick over here). If you dont, well, you'll still find love anyway.

dating is a tremendous strain on the ladies, and raising a family is even worse. The ability to provide is a major factor, and as a young man yet to prove himself you offer no assurance. As an older man she's more asured as to whether or not you will be able to provide. PLUS most of u young guys won't marry them! by the time ure ready for marriage, she's all old and 'yesterdays news', so u'll go looking for fresh meat, and leave her in the lurch.

dudes, leave the girls alone and face ya studies. I did that (after learning the HARD way) and am reaping the benefits now! In any case I may not be the best example cos I was a bit of a baby in school (younger than everyone else) so many of my agemates are still in school. Makes it even more of a joke when I'm called an aristo ,

Yeah, success stories are the best and I thank God for everything he has done to you, you will appreciate your success even more because you worked hard for it, and thus it shall never be taken from you, by Gods grace.

I was merely confused by the part where you spoke as if you were a woman (I wont go down the aristo route, I dont need to depend on a man, Im glad I didnt go down the aristo route, etc etc etc) and then I saw 'm' by your name and saw the early mention of bus conductor.

I was advising u go over the post and clean it up a bit so it doesnt sound unbelievable, I'm sure your success story is true, but the details need some harmonising, thats all.

Cheers, dude and good luck in your future endeavours.

Akolawole:
@GL
What of some of us that i dying for ibo women?

yes ooooooo!

ibo girls are the sh*t!

As for the Aristo question, there's another thread on nairaland about girls dating rich guys.

Read it: You'll find that the girls prefer rich guys just like you prefer fine girls.

Understand that in Naija, it takes a LONG time to become rich, if u arent a 419/yahooyahoo.

Soooo by the time you are 'eligible', youll prolly be in your 30's or above. In other words, an ARISTO.

Girls in Naija that are 'not rich' enough to fall easily for a dude in a flash ride have a way of NOT AGING WELL. Our climate is harsh, and the food is bad, so they will get all wrinkly and saggy very quickly. Cheap cosmetics will blemish their skin. Untreated pimples/rashes/etc will leave them all spotty like leopards.


In short they are not 'eligible' past the age of 25/26 or so, unlike all u janded/yankee babes or rich man pickins (or, ironically, Aristo babes!!!!) who arent as exposed to the harshness of the environment, and have at your disposal healthy food and skin care.


Conclusion:  young girl dates rich old guy with potbelly. vis a vis, Aristo chick.

'tis nobody's fault. Just a side-effect of the environment.

@micklplus

are you male or female?

i cant imagine a 'bus conductor' going the 'aristo route'

Please edit your post and take out all the fiction/fabrication. I'm sure there's a lot of truth there, but any contradictions you make will destroy your credibility.

NOTE: I am not calling you a liar. But as Nigerians we tend to exaggerate. Just remove the bits of your post that are economical with the truth,

4get_me:
@darkmanzero, what makes you think Reverend is a TROLL or that he doesn't really own a kinky church of mary magdaline?

Cos I've seen his type all over the net.

His anti-religious statements directly contradict his 'evangelisation' of the Kinky church.


for an example of what he is doing, visit google 'flying spaghetti monster'. It will lead you to a plage on the 'church of the flying spaghetti monster' which is another atheist joke-church to make fools of people who attach too much passion to their defense of religion.

The way the atheist thinks is this: All religion is a load of ridiculous, improbable, illogical nonsense, so if I just make up something absolutely ludicrously stupid (like a flying spaghetti monster) I can pass it off as a 'false religion' and get all these religious types worked up.

It's a way of winding you people up, and having an in-joke with those who already agree with his anit-religious position.

go ahead, do the google search on flying spaghetti monster and find out how this is done.

Guys. One of the perks of riches is getting to use and dump all the women you want.

Sad but true.

And if women didn't think like THIS (witness the girlies on this thread, especially the intelligent ones), this perk wouldnt exist!

As a rich man, you get to enjoy women of ALL types. The finest, most beautiful, cultured, educated, stupid, religious, illiterate, fat, thin, short, tall, black, white, yellow, igbo, yoruba, hausa, etc etc etc, simply BECAUSE they think like THIS!

AND you get to dump 'em and move to the next one as often as you like.

Watch a soap opera. Why are the main guys always rich (but not always handsome). Why are the main girls always hot (but seldom rich). Its the feminine fantasy. You can't fight it. If you're broke, the girls wont come running after you no matter how long ure **** is rumoured to be. Live with it.

They will delude themselves that the man whose money they are lusting over isnt after more than their tight round asses. They will scream and defend him with tears in their eyes when you tell them the plain truth, then they will cry and curse his family when he dumps them and moves on to their friend/sister/mother whoever. It is the way of the world.

Always has been, always will be.

When she looks in the mirror and sees that those boobs arent standing like they used to, that skin is losing its colour, and the rich boy she's currently dating seems to be going the way of the last 2,000, maybe she'll consider your broke ass. 'Cos then its either you or bust.

And guess what? if you become rich you'll probably ignore her and go chasing the tight-assed bimbos.

c'est la vie

Dat is life, my brodders. It is sad for all involved, except the rich guys.