₦airaland Forum

mrvitalis:
Onitsha is an Igbo City, Enugu, owerri, Aba
There is nothing you can build in Lagos that would not thrive in those cities... No body said take it to your village

You still havent answered the question of who will bell the cat?

When every Igbo man's dream is to be an Ogaranya in his own shop with his boy boy, who will do the building?

stonemasonn:
I thought it was the other way round...............

We have examples of nomadic cultures...

We have Fulanis in the Northern Nigeria (and other parts of West Africa), we have the Mongols in North/East Asia, we have Bedouin in the Middle East.

In almost all cases the Nomadic tribes usually assimilated into the culture of their hosts and usually became a respected and integral part of that society.

The same could not be said about trader tribes like the Jews in Europe or the Armenians in the Ottoman Empire. Mind you despite having centuries to assimilate.

DarlingtonC:
You don't have a point. #fact

My point is in the widespread Igbo crimes happening in Nigeria, Ghana, South Africa, Phillipines and India.

Where you have lots of Igbo traders you will have lots of trade crimes.

mrvitalis:
Oga all they can do is what they are currently doing

Them no born their papa well to attack igbos... That stuff ended in 2006

The only thing igbos need to do is to bring 90% of their profit back Home... Don't invest in your host communities... Nah they don't like that... Just build a regular house because I know we hate rent... Own your business shop then send the rest back home

But the ultimate goal for every Igbo man should be to manufacture what you sale in Ala Igbo... Produce in Igbo land and sell all over the world

Send the rest back home for who? The people in the village are equally fantasizing about coming to Lagos too, so you would have to encourage them to stay in the village and use the money your sending to build up the place, while you live in what they perceive to be a better place (goodluck with that).

Based on what ive seen so far the only thing produced in Igbo land are usually fake products / knockoff items, i don't doubt that there are lots of good businesses there, but those businesses hardly cross the region.

maiunguwar:
Manufacturing culture is good, but you still need traders to market your goods

Yes but you don't need an entire major tribe of them.

shortgun:
[b]Really? So we should now demonize ambition to make Igbos look bad
The Igbos didn’t abandon farming they diversified. Unlike groups who sat around waiting for colonial leftovers the Igbos adapted, embraced trade, industry and built businesses from scratch... even in hostile environments. I think they should be applauded.

I don't think people should be applauded for destabilizing their region's economy by abandoning their main produce for centuries and becoming dependent on other regions.

DarlingtonC:
See mentality.

The Igbo trade culture is one of the enablers of seamless supply chain globally.

In fact, you take that advise yourself. Don't engage in any form of trade (either buying or selling), so we see that your wisdom in action.

People go just dey open mouth waaaaaaaa

*Igbos need to embrace a manufacturing culture and completely do away with trade culture*

For this your statement I highlighted, which school did you graduate from?

If you manufacture am finish, pack am inside your room

I'm not saying we don't need traders, i'm saying we don't need much of them especially a country like Nigeria that doesnt even manufacture much.

At the end of the day you have lots of traders with nothing to trade except fake products or illegal products.

I think every single problem caused by Igbos began the day when Igbos abandoned farming and hunting and embraced trade with the British.

Trade culture requires constant seeking for new markets and customers, this is why there are Igbos everywhere, its practically impossible for Igbos to stay one place even if they wanted to, if Igbos were a minority it might be possible.

Another problem with trade dependence is the lack of adaptation, just imagine a nwaboy who has spent all his life as an apprentice, when it was finally time for him to be independent the market crashed. What other trade could he possibly do with his skillset? - Only crime is available to him especially trader crimes i.e. fraud, drug trafficking etc.

Igbos need to embrace a manufacturing culture and completely do away with trade culture.

Ps: Trade culture and nomadic culture have a lot in common but nomadic culture usually forces one to adapt to the land and therefore the culture of the land, trade culture does not do the same.

You will never understand the Bible properly unless you separate the old testament from the new testament.

They are two separate Gods with some similarities

YAHWEH'S ECONOMIC POLICY


Now that Yahweh had successfully conquered Ala Igbo, he needed to provide an economic system to sustain the people lest they rebel against him.

Under Chukwu's administration, the way of life was very simple;

First you had the hunters who hunted and found meat for the community, they were also the soldiers of the community.

Next you had the farmers, who planted and harvested crops for the community.

You also had the artisan class - hairdressers, musicians, dancers, sculptors, weavers etc.

Yahweh at this point was a newly installed tyrant...

He had spent considerable resources condemning Chukwu in the eyes of the masses.

He could not be seen using the same economic system of Chukwu (although it worked for a thousand years) that would make him a hypocrite.

Yahweh needed his own system.

Now there's one fact about Yahweh you must know.

Yahweh is a trader by profession.

In Genesis 18:24-33, we see Yahweh and Abraham haggle price concerning the fate of Sodom and Gomorrah. Yahweh inflated the price to 50 people but Abraham priced it down to 10 people.

In Genesis 25:29-34, we see Jacob (who was later called Israel) haggle and purchase his brother's birth right in exchange for some stew.

In Genesis 41:54-57, we see Joseph (who was not Egyptian) store Egyptian grain and sell it back to the Egyptians for a much higher price.

But the best evidence of Yahweh's profession comes from the book of Matthew 25:14-30...

In this parable a servant was specifically punished for refusing to invest his master's money. He kept the money and returned it back without spending a dime and he was punished for it.

Matthew 25:26-27

[26]“ ‘You bad and lazy servant!’ his master said. ‘You knew, did you, that I reap harvests where I did not sow, and gather crops where I did not scatter seed?
[27]Well, then, you should have deposited my money in the bank, and I would have received it all back with interest when I returned.

Yahweh does not like to do any meaningful work that actually produces something, instead he takes profit of things that other peoples have built and worked for, by his own admission he likes to 'reap harvests where he did not sow'.

With this in mind, what sort of economy do you think Yahweh would bestow upon his newly made subjects?

Obviously trade, but trade alone cannot sustain a population especially a large population like Ala Igbo.

And so you end up with an economic situation where the people are forced to leave and constantly search for newer and better trade opportunities.

The families that lived in Ala Igbo for centuries, eating together, fighting together, laughing together, sharing stories together; could no longer sustain each other anymore unless they moved out, completely abandoning their region and home.

And despite all this, they still love Yahweh.

This is truly Yahweh's economic miracle.

Slytiger:
Igbos can only gaslight weak people.

But Ebonyi people are not Yorubas though

YAHWEH'S INVASION

Once upon a time in Ala Igbo, there lived a supreme deity called Chukwu.

Chukwu was not the only god but he was the most powerful.

Ala Igbo back then didnt have good food, clothes, roads or any meaningful infrastructure but despite all this, Chukwu was content and he somehow managed to take good care of his people inspite of such harsh conditions.

Chukwu governed Ala Igbo for over a thousand years.

Then one day, Yahweh arrived at the shores of Onitsha.

Yahweh proudly declared "i am the one true God, all those who do not bow down to me are my enemies"

At this utterance, all the gods of Ala Igbo began to laugh, many of them died that day out of laughter, Chukwu replied "is morality not the fact that there are many gods but no God?"

Yahweh with his bad temper immediately got offended by the laughter and joke, so he stabbed Chukwu.

He then went on a massive fanatical deicide, wiping out all the gods of Ala Igbo, deriding them as 'demons' and 'idols'.

After this, he took up seat in Ala Igbo as the supreme God.

But unlike Chukwu, Yahweh was not content with Ala Igbo.

Yahweh wanted the whole world for himself.

And so Yahweh became Omnipotent, Omniscient and Omnipresent.

He can be found everywhere, in every city, in every ghetto, from South Africa to India to Phillipines to Britain.

Yahweh belonged everywhere and nowhere.

Yahweh became homeless, just like his people.

His people, who were once Igbos under Chukwu...

Had now become 'the cursed Jews of Africa'.

babat89:
People do actually.
🤣

...and I don't need to memorize Robert Greene or follow the laws of his book to know he is phenomenal at what he does.

Yet some people who haven't done shit with their lives think they are geniuses?

Don't make me laugh!

Who said he wasnt good at what he does?

He wanted to make money so he wrote a book to achieve that purpose and he succeeded because he understood the market.

I'm criticizing the audience not the author.

But since you lack understanding you went ahead to prove my point again.

babat89:
...and that's why with your good standards and taste, nobody knows your name.

And nobody knows your name too, despite all the hours you spent memorizing his laws.

You are the best specimen to prove my point.

Look at how peaceful and innocent she looks when the police arrived.

But petty people exist sha.

babat89:
Na why Robert Greene dey where e dey and you dey where you dey

Robert Greene dey where e dey because of some people with poor standards and taste.

This book is highly overrated.

I couldnt even read it properly, my mind just kept on proposing contradictions to every point he made.

Its an unpractical book.

They should forage on the enemy

Atleast that's the expectation from their superiors.

Any player that can bet can actually rig a match.

Imagine if he bets on his opponent to win.

Trump trying to distract people from his Epstein files.

People always talk about corruption of the youths, but just check out the ages of these criminals.

No wonder kids in that side don't respect their elders.

SmartPolician:
A church is not an institution you go to take; a church is a place you use your talent, treasure and time (3Ts) to build. What we offer in Catholic Church is selfless service

If you become active because you seek validation (respect, more connection, status, and bragging rights), you will become miserable if your expectations weren't met.

This is the last time I will reply you concerning this topic.

Good speech

Pope Alexander (VI) would have learnt a lot.

Nollyvin:
You ignorance knows no bound, I started serving at mass as a kid and later joined Lay readers, when new members are needed, is been announced in the church for people that are interested to join, you are not being paid for serving while will it now requires connection to join?

You are not getting paid with money, you are getting paid with status.

Who were your parents? Did you think if your parents/relatives were not active members in that parish you would be serving mass there?

SmartPolician:
You are one of those unserious people mentioned in the comment you quoted. Nepotism for tasks that nobody pays you to execute? Oga, talk another thing.

Why do people join the army? Do soldiers get paid much?

Some jobs don't pay with money but instead could bring respect, more connection, status, and bragging rights.

Shikena:
I don't think you live in the USA or familiar with what you are delving into. Your thoughts and facts are two different things. There were reports on publications and even my local TV on this. You don't even need to look, drive by a catholic church in the US on Saturday evening and all day on Sundays.

Also, here is a link on a related report:
https://nypost.com/2025/04/17/lifestyle/why-young-people-are-converting-to-catholicism-en-masse/

What is your point exactly?

Were the founding fathers of USA Catholics or Pentecostals?

Shikena:
Yet Catholic church grows steadily in the USA till today.

Nope it does not.

Its very hard to see a catholic nowadays whose parents or spouse were not catholic.

Again, my nepotism point.

SmartPolician:
As a Catholic myself, there's nothing you find in pentecostal churches that you won't find in Catholic churches. Absolutely nothing!! The problem of the church is that it is too big and leaves room for unserious members who know practically nothing about the church.

That's why whenever they are challenged about a doctrine they know nothing about, they cannot defend it. Genuine Catholics are those who belong to one society or association - those folks are sound in the word of God/teachings of the church and cannot leave the Universal Church for the new-generation churches.

Catholic church is too nepotistic, everything from being a member of choir to being a layreader depends on who you know, how much you have, how connected you are.

The word nepotism itself originated from the catholic church, go and verify.

Its no wonder that merit based societies like USA had a very strong pentecostal foundation.

Since 2013, that is serious commitment.

We have Italian mafia in Italy and Cosa Nostra in USA, here we officially have our Ndi-Igbo Mafia.

The name is Chukwuma not Chikuwuma, India should not spoil the name.

jlinkd78:
Please Buhari is dead Nnamdi Kanu should be discharged

Releasing Nnamdi Kanu now would be a big F U to the corpse of Buhari.

Its funny he hasnt even been sentenced yet.

fuckingAyaya:
Which detergent them take dey wash this man clothes the white keeps sparkling eveyday since 2017. Ohamadike is a celestial being nothing wey anybody wan tell me

He is not washing it, he is ordering new ones and it is since 2021.

You guys accuse every politician of corruption, but here you are celebrating a man who is addicted to lavish lifestyle, suit and tie was too small for him.

oluwaseyi0:
Unfortunately Nigeria don't care
He won't get any justice simply because it wasn't caught on camera

Corrected

Your highly welcome, its cool, no problemo