Business › Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by dapotemi: 9:21pm On Jun 01, 2023 |
Omoapena: I will jump on it if that 200k salary work isn't far from my resident and it's a Monday to Friday work (9am to 5pm) If not, I can't sacrifice freedom of ehailing for the 200k job....
Ehailing might have its disadvantages but comparing 200k job to ehailing is a big slap on ehailing.... Hmmn dey play...the FREEDOM you have for how many years now, what have you achieved with it sir? Why freedom is good, you must show result, atleast quarterly...After driving for like 8 hours, what else would you use the freedom for, if not to sleep and REST! U S president BIDEN was trending riding a bicycle at about 80 years old or thereabout days ago...I read a doctor's comment and he said " being able to do these at that age LARGELY DEPEND on how you used yourself NOW! How conscious are you about your health NOW! Nothing comes easy no doubt, but driving for too long, for many years is not a joke! More like the man that did 5k insurance,mocking those that did comprehensive as waste of money! Tell him to WAIT for that HIT! |
Business › Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by dapotemi: 4:31pm On Jun 01, 2023 |
Gentlelife50: Hmmmmmm, well me will still prefer steady salary and be managing my resources small small than running around like headless chicken or moving traffic sorry moving Lagos up and down.  I am not saying the job isn't good ooo, but when we compare the majority of drivers with most people earning even the 200k as salary the difference is clear. I am telling that majority of those people earning 200k live better life than 90% of ehailing drivers, with 200k salary you a very big boy when compared to 90% of ehailing drivers. Let me not go into details  If 200k salary is offered to all ehailing drivers today, 99.9% will QUIT! I have been on both SIDE...The type of energy expended..No driver on rental or HP will stay, anyone that will stay would probably owned his car and have other sources of income....Do you see how driver looks or appear physically, when you order a ride, they appear drained, tired, sorrowful!! Anytime I open my app, a driver is looking for bat3 to jumpstart, another one needs wheel spanner. Even my bro that owned few cars on the platform, always looks tired and drained...I spoke to him recently to take things easy and he said for him it's not about just driving alone but do you know the amount of energy he uses to PURSUE his driver for delivery, one wahala after another. Don't let anyone drive you to your death!!! |
Business › Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by dapotemi: 4:07pm On Jun 01, 2023 |
I drove round to some part of Lagos today...It seems the road is generally free, understandably so. ..If you, as a driver thinks you're making 5k in an hour now, I think you should just wait and let things settle down b4 you celebrate...All the people who are not driving now will eventually hit the road and the usually traffic begins....All in all, it is not looking good for everyone..Whatever increment the app guys will add can't be more than 35%.Bolt already did a coded email to drivers...The only winner in this na the ehailing coy.
There are a lot of issues drivers battle with. Some of them out of desperation took unreasonable HP and rental offers. They have to work round the clock to meet up.
The problem with this is, the car may not be able to withstand the kind of stress they subject it to. Week after week it's one problem or the other.
Those who drive their own cars obviously will fare better. I personally don't think e-hailing is as bad as is sometimes being portrayed. I believe those who drive their own cars can live decently on earnings from it.(earnings before the recent price increase)[/quote] |
Business › Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by dapotemi: 4:42pm On May 31, 2023 |
Itsrm: Did someone not just say up there that he opened ride and indrive and the prices are still more or less the same with just a slightly increase?
So if the price you paid doubled perhaps becsuse of scarcity and demand. Is that a regular occurence? What will happen when all filing stations start selling. Will indrive still be able to charge double when there's less demand?
Why not just wait for the scarcity to be over? You will know the kind of analysis I'm doing. The app company would not have any choice than to RESPOND to the price increase by INCREASING their fare price..That is the only way out...There is no way ANY DRIVER can cope with this fuel increase if the app guys continue to maintain the current price..To fill up Corolla now will be like 24k... The reason, I think why some of the app has not increased their fare is because perhaps they are only seeing or dealing with scarcity. Now it's confirmed, the cheapest fuel you will get is 488 per litre, and it's only NNPC that will sell at that price.Others will probably be more...BRACE UP! The optics is not looking good.. Moreso, riders will decrease significantly. How many rider can take a ride of 7k to work and 14k to and fro, every day! I know many riders that takes Uber only on Monday and maybe Tuesday and the rest na public transport.Now am not sure they will be able to do that anymore...App needs to step up their game, create a system where you can MERGE two riders going towards same route and they both get a 50% discount...Some of the riders I picked regularly to island in the morning have started calling to arrange for daily pick up, offering 5k...Some of them would look for a friend, a neighbour to join and share the trip fare. We must survive somehow. |
Business › Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by dapotemi: 3:43pm On May 30, 2023 |
Pearl1910: See as u just dey use mouth drive car...  Tomorrow, na still u go talk say ehailing no too make sense. LMAO.....you ehn your mouth no good..make I find one meme nack you.....40k, and if he stretch it the guy fit enter 60k self ...yet Dem say na salary earner dey enjoy..Many of his town boy here go wait for 30 days to net that! |
Business › Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by dapotemi: 9:58am On May 28, 2023 |
BAZ001: Eweeehh  He gets car on HP, pay off and take another HP or rentals and continue in slavery until he pays off and owns 4 cars and still on HP Habaaaaaa Which is better to drive your own car and save to buy a new one and give it on rentals just like pearl1910 and kanuisagoat. Or to keep driving for someone?
Which kind thread be dis 
https://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/popcorn_yes.gif You still don't get it sir, what pearl1910 and kanuisagoat is doing works for them, might not work for other.What this person is doing work for him. There is no size fit all! There are mouth watering HP/Rental deal out there.I gave a banker Corolla for 15k two years ago..o boy, there are people with slush fund and they probably don't even know wt to do with it. .Here in my office, guys ask me everyday what kinda of biz they can do to get residual income..They are salary earner, most of them have 2 to 4 million somewhere that they are not using, they want something that can give them REGULAR income, even if it's small, just make it REGULAR and I think that is my brothers STRENGTH. Imagine, driving someone's car for TWO years without a SINGLE default in payment! That is the albatross of most driver,inability to pay as at when due and that is his own strength! When I bought my second Corolla, it was from a slush fund and I have a decent income. I only needed someone that can give me 15 to 20k every Weekend to take care of house bills(food, dstv, phcn, refuse bill, groceries etc), the guy paid for like 6 month or so then story started...My plan was not to make huge fund from it, just pay bills..There are alot of folks that needs that and this young man target them.. Work diligently and as hard as possible(it's ok if you think that is slavery) remit, owned and MOVE on! The truth is, there are diff ways to bait a cat! |
Business › Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by dapotemi: 11:18pm On May 26, 2023 |
TheModerator: Ehailing came on board in Nigeria in 2015 and gained ground in 2016. That was when people like cheerfulgiver and Pearl1910 started driving.
So your brother has four cars already within this short period and even on another one, making it five cars already. He probably started this in 2018. He completes payment for hire purchase on a yearly basis by your submission.
Guy take am easy dey give us zobo drink for here. Permit me to engage you again pls...How much is a Corolla/Camry in 2015? Circa 1.5-1.6.. Are you also aware that the people that started ehailing in those years where the people that MADE THE REAL MONEY! Those 'dagbo' years...ask around what they make in those years. App were easily manipulated and boys were catching out? Enough said for now. You don't know what you don't know. |
Business › Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by dapotemi: 8:24pm On May 26, 2023 |
ReadaDream: If truly, the mystery man is Cheerful, then your submission is the only logical reason why he'll take up rental.
Myself as an example, recently I've been looking out for rental deal, I almost contacted Ghost1994 for his Nissan, but location made me not to.
What is my reason for looking at renting again? I want to drop my current car with my wife to use for running around, we have a baby and I'm not comfortable with her going out in public transport with the baby, so we've been ordering rides and omo, our riders they try. Last week, I spent about 21k on ride from Sangotedo to Ikorodu and back.
So if you see me renting tomorrow, one might think probably something is wrong.
As far as I know, cheerful is just start a family too, who knows? He might have dropped the corolla with his wife.... Well, a couple of years ago on this same platform I shared my younger brothers model. He ventured into ehailing immediately after sch..Again, I'll repeat it, he TAKES car on HIRE PURCHASE or at worst rental. Complete payment, owned the car, give it out on rental and go ahead to take ANOTHER car..As at today, he has 4 cars today and he's still on hire purchase as at today..His model works perfectly for him...In any business, YOU MUST LOOK INTENTLY and draw out a model to HELP you survive. So why others are shouting it's not a good biz, na only feeding money you go see, maintenance is too high. You will continue to CASH OUT in THE SAME biz..You just need a little 'higher wisdom'..Use your head! Congratulations to cheerful if indeed he's the one. |
Business › Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by dapotemi: 7:49pm On May 26, 2023 |
Pearl1910: Ashiri!!! This is fascinating. So it's a natural energy boost. This is cool.
Pls if u guys have more secrets drop it here o. Everybody must make am for this business. Me sef don chop my boiled egg for the day, and so far so good, my usual afternoon sleep never worry me. As I dey like this I fit drive till tomorrow night 
Pls don't forget to exercise to burn excess fat and keep fit on ur off days.
More tips please Bros, been a while I check in here. Pls be careful about eggs being sold in traffic.. Especially those ones at iyana oworo. Those eggs are being boiled with detergent...Few years ago, it used to be my everyday 'snack' because egg is a complete meal, until one day i did not drive and a friend dropped me at iyana oworo bus stop coming frm island at about 10pm. I saw this lady pouring omo detergent in a big pot on fire, then putting the eggs. Out of curiosity I approached her and she said it's makes it easier to PEEL...You know all this egg that you peel all at once, yea that is the goal..Similar to those aboki at oyingbo using sniper to preserve their stock fish. That one was trending on Twitter like three years ago .Let's be careful with what we eat pls. |
Travel › Re: My Journey To The UK by dapotemi: 10:34pm On May 25, 2023 |
gmacnoms: The air hostess ask me wetin I want. I responded with “hot chocolate” , because my wife don tell me say our tea (bournvita, milo and milk, etc) na hot chocolate them Dey call am outside balablue.
Na so babe say no “hot chocolate”. Haaaaa!!!!
Na so I say oya give me that thing you are sharing. She couldn’t understand. I had to point to someone close to me having the something, because I cared not. Sha ko wa, whatever it was.
Na so babe asked “you mean coffee?” Na so I halla “Yes”, coffee. Na so we take settle that one.
As she give me coffee, na I say “oya give me d oda one”. Babe looked confused. I had to point to another person eating the thing. And she asked “you want sandwich?” Aunty, oya “EGBE KINIYEN WA, EMILOKAN”. At that moment, I Understood Asiwaju’s plight
When I collected the sandwich and coffee. It felt like I won a trophy that arsenal couldn’t.
Even my son was so happy and proud of me, when he saw me returning with trophies.
I no even remember to snap until I finish am. Lol you crack me up man...Big up..you be my neighbour |
Business › Re: What Is That Thing You Bought Or Project That Really Shook Your Bank Account? by dapotemi: 12:08pm On May 25, 2023 |
Greatn3ss: What is that particular thing that you bought or that project you carried out that really affected your bank account?
Mine was last 2 years when I acquired a land, up till now I've not recovered from it. And funny enough they are presently dragging the land with me but its well I'm in your shoe right now. Luckily the person that encroach into mine send emissaries to me that he's aware of his encroachment. Now to do the right thing after being aware is another tug of war |
Family › Re: Should I Renovate Our Family House? by dapotemi: 9:58pm On May 21, 2023 |
Acidosis: Some of you really know how to give impracticable advice. Have you ever involved a lawyer in a matter that involves you and your younger brother? LMAO, as in ehn, Nigerians like dishing what they can't eat.. you and your junior brother, then you bring a lawyer, like FALANA or OZEHKHOME..Na wa o. Yoruba call it omo iya awusa. I am funding one of my junior bro tertiary education and I told him he's going to refund me. It's so expensive because of the location and it's taking about 55% of my annual salary, am basically working for him, so heavy on me and am making huge sacrifice and I ALREADY have it in mind that if he started working and he made the refund, fine and well and if he doesn't, well and good. There is something they call FAMILY , comes with a lot of sacrifice and if you are the ELDER one, that also comes with even bigger SACRIFICE. |
Properties › Re: Cost Of Putting Tiles In My Apart by dapotemi: 6:11pm On May 18, 2023 |
DJInfluence: That cheap? All being quoted for #800 per sqm. Yeah they have two quote..one for you guys in Diaspora and another one for us 'local' here...shei you get abi |
Properties › Re: Cost Of Putting Tiles In My Apart by dapotemi: 1:12pm On May 18, 2023 |
DJInfluence: I will like to know too. The labour cost of tiling in Lagos state. I'm doing mine presently for 350 naira per square meter |
Technology Market › Re: House Clearance Sales.. Come In Here!!!! by dapotemi: 8:04pm On May 17, 2023 |
Prince3: A little advice. Even though na 10k tv. Don't try collecting it. Ebe like you didn't learn your lesson. Na the higher the tv, the higher the price of the Screen. Na 4k worst pass. My friend buy 55inches curve tv for 25k only to go buy screen and they told him 250k and he risk it and bought for 250k after 6months tv screen begin change to breaking vanagon windscreen RIGHT!! The problem with change of screen is that they never last. It's just a matter of time before it will pack up again. |
Technology Market › Re: House Clearance Sales.. Come In Here!!!! by dapotemi: 6:15pm On Apr 26, 2023 |
missbae: Rechargeable fan...28k
Agege 08027041312 Delivery available How many hour can I get after a full recharge? |
Technology Market › Re: House Clearance Sales.. Come In Here!!!! by dapotemi: 7:25pm On Apr 22, 2023 |
ONNYX: Brand new Complete WC unit.
Bought brand new.....never used. Because we changed the colour theme of the bathroom and bought a more fitting sanitary ware.
Installation never completed.
Make me a clearance (but reasonable) offer and pick up in the coming week. I need it..Do you have more than one? Price
Location; Akute axis
0 Eight Zero 9 Nine 9 Nine 4 One Three Two.
Offer valid for only one week. I need it. Do you have more than one? Price |
Technology Market › Re: House Clearance Sales.. Come In Here!!!! by dapotemi: 7:24pm On Apr 22, 2023 |
ONNYX: Brand new Complete WC unit.
Bought brand new.....never used. Because we changed the colour theme of the bathroom and bought a more fitting sanitary ware.
Installation never completed.
Make me a clearance (but reasonable) offer and pick up in the coming week. I need it..Do you have more than one? Price
Location; Akute axis
0 Eight Zero 9 Nine 9 Nine 4 One Three Two.
Offer valid for only one week. |
Technology Market › Re: House Clearance Sales.. Come In Here!!!! by dapotemi: 8:43am On Apr 15, 2023 |
gmacnoms: My flat is available in Alapere. It's 400k sha. Total is 550k. Which street in Alapere? |
Technology Market › Re: House Clearance Sales.. Come In Here!!!! by dapotemi: 5:20pm On Apr 13, 2023 |
drunkpunk: 50m is good but not good enough... You remind me that year when I dey look for that church clock...Yoruba call it Ago elepon |
Technology Market › Re: House Clearance Sales.. Come In Here!!!! by dapotemi: 8:33am On Apr 08, 2023 |
teeymartins: CLEARANCE SALE 42inches TV. 90k Wine bar. 30k TV Multimedia. 70k 2 set of AC. 35k each 6 by 6 mouka mattress. 85k 6 by 4 mouka mattress 65k Hairer thermocool Fridge 90k Washing machine 40k 4 sets of Stool 20k Sitting room chair. 40k Gas cooker 40k Ceiling fans 7k 2 standing fan 10k each
08038550382 Pics of the standing fan pls |
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dapotemi: 3:28pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
FEGEITOK: If I told you how much I had to spend to get contracts, travels, several times, running 30 day proof of concept, calls, bringing my team to the site without even being sure of a deal.
So like I said before Sonnie is right. But for certain people, he is wrong because they operate outside the enterprise deal circle (B2B). They deal in the B2C market in which different rules may apply.
FG, state governments and even companies do not as a rule pay in advance of signing the contract.
Until the dotted line is signed, you are spending your own money!
As a matter of fact, some have started sending a letter with the words: " Non-Obligatory Proof of Concept/Demonstration" when they invite you to come for the discussion.
These stories remind me of a guy who flew in state of the art Ricoh machines to NNPC to demonstrate and then NNPC did not end up buying.
This guy was literally in tears and reached out to me to help him sell them.
If you do enterprise deals, you will understand that even the decision to buy can take months or years, but then at the end, the deal is usually a very big one, so his ask was an impossible to fulfil one. You and Erico submission fully captured my thought..This issue has been discussed here more than twice .. I have worked as an asst Facility mgr with a monthly budget of #60M and no one would approved a Kobo for anyone, whether you're Julius berger or baba lati to come and check a job and get paid transport...it's a form of 419 if you present such. 99% of guys here does B2C. But, from my pocket, I do give tips to workmen when I call them for an emergency work or sometime to quickly check and submit a quote and that is because getting those things done affect my KPI..The truth is, it's an individual thing. Not a rule of thumb..But the biz guys here should calm down, you are the one that wants to get a job and earned , you are the one that needs to be humble...those of us bringing the job here will also be humble when we get to where we make that money we bring here..Abi nau, I go humble for my oga for 30 days collect salary, I go come humble for you too because I want to pay you to to supply wood or paint, no nau, you sef reason am.I can give someone else...imagine if everyone gives someone else and not you, na you go humble last .. Well, I thinks it's a faceless forum tho, most of you don't act like this in REAL LIFE, atleast the ones have met |
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dapotemi: 2:59pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
Iriruaga100: You’re not doing yourself any good when you reply every comment. You took that from my mouth.For someone who has a brand ooo. Arguing with someone who is not looking for 'ANYTHING' here. |
Technology Market › Re: House Clearance Sales.. Come In Here!!!! by dapotemi: 11:21pm On Apr 05, 2023 |
ngBuild: That hdd is good, i can bet my life on that, i used it for gaming, just that it was formatted to exFAT as the console requires, he called me on video call i told him kindly find the usb port that is 3.0 and format it, it will work, he ignored my advice. Well that hard disk is perfectly okay, he should find the usb 3.0 and format it as advised. Did you share all this INFO with him BEFORE or AFTER PAYMENT? |
Technology Market › Re: House Clearance Sales.. Come In Here!!!! by dapotemi: 9:52pm On Apr 03, 2023 |
YeyeBoyfriend: Standing fan for sale Working conditions = 100%
8k
Ogba/Ifako Pics pls |
Family › Re: GAZZUZZ House Hold Items by dapotemi: 10:58am On Mar 12, 2023 |
GAZZUZZ: Firman 2.5kva
₦70,000
Left outdoors, so fuel tank discoloured , works perfectly.
08033910382
Ogba Lagos
Sold
Do you still have something similar..maybe up to 3KVA |
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dapotemi: 4:32pm On Feb 22, 2023 |
redgem: I can't give her access to the account...this incident shows she isn't smart... Yeah, the money is gone but someone will have to pay for her carelessness... Give her access and you SWEEP daily |
Family › Re: GAZZUZZ House Hold Items by dapotemi: 6:31am On Feb 22, 2023 |
Waiting for the generator as u talk am |
Technology Market › Re: House Clearance Sales.. Come In Here!!!! by dapotemi: 9:40pm On Feb 06, 2023 |
WCUB3: All available for Sale at Sango-Ota. WAYBILL NOT AVAILABLE Self pickup or send someone.
32" LED TV + PS3 hacked with 2pads (FIFA 19, GOW Ascension, PES22, ResidentEvil, Mortal Kombat, GTA 5, NFS) and 5 game CDs (FIFA 14, GOW Saga, COD, Infamous). COMBO for 85k Tiger 2700 Generator 2kva 55k Washing Machine Haier Thermocool (Twin Tub)6kg 65k LG Microwave 15k Dehydrator (for drying fruits, seeds, yam, pap etc) 28k Pressure Pot 18k Philips BluRay DVD Player+ Remote 6k5 Cooler x3 (Big, Medium &Small)25k Tabletop Gas 7k5 Frying Pan set x2 10k 2 sets Glassware (1jug and 6cups each) 15k
Call or Chat: 0-8-0-2-5-9-3-7-5-5-8 Pics Of d gen |
Technology Market › Re: House Clearance Sales.. Come In Here!!!! by dapotemi: 7:52pm On Jan 31, 2023 |
[quote author=ayiceberg post=120517216]Samsung ‘32’ smart TV- 55,000 LG 1000w Bodyguard Sound system- 120,000 chairs (Leather)- 100,000 Makeup chair- 20,000 Makeup bag-15,000 Lontor Rechargeable fan- 20,000 Microwave -10,000 Small oven-10,000 iMac PC - 50,000 Hp Deskjet Printer(3 in1)- 20,000 Gas cooker- 10,000 Gas cylinder(gas in it) -13,000 Generator 2.5kva- 35,000
0.8.0.2.5.3.5.4.0.0.1 Location: Irawo Owode, Lagos[/quot Pics of the generator |
Technology Market › Re: House Clearance Sales.. Come In Here!!!! by dapotemi: 11:57pm On Jan 30, 2023 |
Teedol: * LG 42 inch LCD TV =70k.
* LG 32 inch LED TV =50k.
* 2 pieces of 12k gas cylinders +regulator +hose =18k each.
* Cloth rack for drying =20k.
* LG Fridge /freezer =80K
* LG deep freezer =90k--- Sold
*Dresser mirror with stand n stool = 35k
* Children (4) drawer wardrobe =20k
* Water drum/ =15k
* LG 8kg washing machine = 80k
* Gas burner table top self ignite =15k
* Bed/Mattress 6×6 = 100k
* 3seater,2 seater and 2 single chairs = 150k
* Stabilizer 1000watts(edited)=10k
* LG sound system with woofer and 4 speakers =70k
* 4 burner gas cooker + oven =50k
* Wooden dining table with 4 chairs (2 chairs needs repairs) = 40k
* Water dispenser hot n cold still working perfectly +3 bottles = 23k--- dispenser is sold but the 3cway bottles are available.
* Iron dog cage =40k-------Sold
* Wooden TV console (HDF) = 50k
* luggage box extra large = 20k Large =10k
* 4×6 Bed + mattress =65k
* Hisence inverter 1.5hp AC plus accessories =150k
* kitchen cupboard = 15k
* 2 Dstv decoders, 1 explorer(needs adapter) and 2 dishes = 20k
* Electric kettle =6k
* Glass TV console =10k
* 4×4 bed frame plus 2 mattresses =20k
* plate rack( Qasa) =10k
*ironing board = 5k
* Microwave(only grill works)= 5k
*Turkish rug =10k
* Generator 2.5kva= 70k
* Hp printer in box = 20k. Sold
08166108117 Pictures of gen pls |
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dapotemi: 2:36pm On Jan 30, 2023 |
BrickDevo: he first paid 30% as against 40% i requested so i could start, and we agreed if i send the full drawing he will pay the rest, i sent in the drawing, he then paid part of what is remaining, when i queried him, he said he wanted his builder to review it, [/b] that was not a problem as i understand the need for the review, my only concern is why is it taking this long, i have done a lot of designs for client here, just sometime ago a client chatted me asking for the roof sqm of the building i designed she has gotten to that stage to buy roofing sheets, i provided it without asking for extra money that was weeks after design has been done, she even sent me the pictures of the building. I also designed a building for client from NL, at final stage he said i will show it to my wife then i will get back to you, and this is even after i submitted his complete drawings and he paid full.
[b]Why is it taking 3days to review a single simple floor plan?
For the record let it be known to all, that the client has not paid the balance up till now. What if the builder is yet to give him the necessary feedback needed to effect your payment ...Pls be patience , you have done well from the beginning ,plss try to end it well ..its a service that you have provided , not a product,hence the need to be patience pls..We all need alot of TACT when dealing with client especially online client..Don't forget REFERRALS |