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What's wrong with our central defence?

forget it guys, we aint winning the premiership this season. Now we are 6 points back.

Chineke!!!!

wetin happen now Arsene?

Bentley how far now? We have space in the reserve team.

Been listening to them for a while. How they didnt win that America's next talent show still beats me.

Good voices but i've not been so impressed by their songs.

chessguru:
@, game

i love arsenal so much, why? anyday when i see the games they play, it gives me joy as i enjoy it, no matter what ARSENAL FOR ETERNITY!!

Gba . . . me and you have the same mentality. Win or lose Arsenal is a joy to watch.

- flogged my girlfriend's younger brother for being rude. She just stared and said nothing . . .

- Never took notes in class in final yr, my girlfriend did the writing everyday after school

Van Persie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Almunia!!!

Boohoo Bentley . . . still wish you could change shirts?  

Still think Theo should leave Arsenal?  

clichy and Sagna left to get goals tonight.

How is Totenham bossing the game? they have 10 men behind the ball and camped in their own half.

This game is for Arsenal, dont mind Bentley . . .

ESPN (english) live

http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/wed29.10/Arsenal_Tottenham.html

huxley:
The point I was making is that - how reliable are these figures. To what extend should anyone trust them? Has science got a good track record of revealing the true nature of reality?

That is the basis for DNA fingerprinting so cut the crap about "how reliable are these figures".

huxley:
Thanks for the pointer. I shall definitely peruse the link. But my question still remains. Why should I trust it? Should I treat it as a document or prediction from an Astrologer?

Your question cannot "remain" because it is invalid. Its just like asking "why shld i trust that oxygen is actually 21% of air"? That only <1% of DNA is actually unique to all individuals is an incontrovertible fact that has stood for the last 30yrs.

huxley:
What are the implications of having no common genes with humans?

Genes alone are not responsible for phenotypic traits in humans, variable regulation of genes are. The KC gene is present only in mice but not humans . . . when you stimulate mice with an inflammatory agent the lungs of the mouse triggers the over-expression of the gene. You cannot extrapolate that response to human lungs even using the very same agent since we dont have the gene. The closest man has is a possible ortholog.

huxley:
What are the implications of having genes in common with humans?

Variable implications.
A gene present in man that is also present in another animal may be differentially regulated.

huxley:
I never said I knew everything. Of course, I shall go study the stuff you mentioned. In the meantime I would also like you to study the following;
1) Endogeneous RetroVirus

What has this to do with the issue?

huxley:
2) The difference/similarities between Chromosome 2 in humans and primates

Primates and humans also share 99% of their DNA. That is an established fact.

Chrisbenogor:
David you are wrong, you are just being stubborn and you know it

Mr, dont just make statements like your other clueless friends have been doing. PROVE IT!

Na wa for this man o.

bawomolo:
future research would prove who is right between us.

See this man. Future research ke? where you not the one saying with utmost authority (that eventually proved to be baseless) that genetics plays an important factor in determining sexual orientation?

Here is the key question - if that is true why is homosexuality not a heritable trait?

bawomolo:
scientists who have spent time studying animals in the wild would disagree with your claim that we can't extrapolate much from animals.

Those same scientists are busy writing reviews and conducting studies essentially showing that animal studies can only be extrapolated to man in a very limited form.

this has nothing to do with bravado, i'm tired of athiests who think that the rest of us who believe in Christ are essentially airheads who dont know anything. You people just brandish science as if you know what you are talking about.

huxley:
Rubbish, absolue rubbish. Why did you get these figures from? And why should we think they are reliable?

My dear, you just proved how illiterate you are. It is an established fact that human DNA is 99% identical. You can google it up if you want. The 1% difference is the basis for the invention of DNA fingerprinting that was invented in the 1980s.

Here, educate yourself with this BioEd slide on the "structure and function of genomes" - Humans are more than 99% identical to each other at the DNA level. Only identical twins possess identical genomic DNA. It is the <1% variability in our DNA that makes each of us unique.

Olodo ni boy yi sha!

huxley:
Again, rubbish. Absolute rubbish. Why should we be convinced by this?

Dont be silly my boy . . . here is just one example - Mice have 300 unique genes that they do not share with humans.

huxley:
You have just casually come across this and are making use of this to your advantage. There is absolutely no truth or grounding to this.

You have just casually come across as being clearly uninformed about the very science that allegedly forms the basis of your athiest beliefs. you dont know anything, go and read.

There are two popular strains of mice (129/Sv and C57BL/6) which do not develop any auto-immune disease. they are presently being used to study the human SLE phenotype that are not seen in mice.

Go study before telling me there is no truth or grounding to stuff.

carmelily:
@~Lady~

You just keep going round and round. It's dizzying. Are RCC Charismatics Roman Catholics or not? If RCC is "the church", where do they fit in when you say there should be no differing beliefs in "the church"?

When you say the "fundamentals" are the same. The Early Church and RCC, what proofs do you have? what "fundamentals"? the Papacy? the statues? the practical deification of Mary? the election of a "pope"? the rosary? the observance of Ash Wednesday and Good Friday and other equally bizarre, outlandish "days"? what fundamentals? You sound like Mccain. The RCC bears no resemblance to Early Christianity. But you'll come back with the same mantras you've been reciting. Now, i understand why no one else bothers with you. Anyway, like it or lump it, RCC ain't Biblical IN ANY WAY. You aren't even trying to prove that it is, you manage to show why it isn't.

And please, don't even presume to tell me how to worship. Thanks for the effort. Just let me be. Na me and God sabi.

One more person who now understands Lady is not someone you can have a genuine intelligent debate with.
She just repeats the same old hogwash time and time again with no proof. When she gets trapped in a corner she starts bleating about "questions".

I dont blame "pastor" Ofoegbu. Every shareholder expects some form of return on his stock investments in any business.

what's "good" about this news?

We have simply shown the world that:

1. We have no planning - how can we be haggling over funding less than a yr to hosting a tournament? Did FIFA just inform us about hosting last month?
2. We are too corrupt - so we could host a tournament for $76m and we quoted $314m?

what's with this fascination with "domesticated" sissies who happen to possess a pe nis?

Best team on earth

Chrisbenogor:
Hmmm interesting the guy no fit hold am again eh ya, maybe he was tired of living a lie.
@david
How body?
Truth of the matter is it has not be proven that it is genetical or cultural there is evidence either way, your assertion that little from the animal kingdom can be extrapolated to man is wrong, you of all people should know that. To be honest bro sometimes I think your passion for christianity clouds your judgement , look closely again and you will see what I really mean, or rent some books on psychology, and even engineering or medicine and you will see just how far animals have helped.
I will leave it there for now hopefully we can continue this discussion on a honest basis.

My dear, it is perfectly correct. Did you know that every man on earth shares a 99% identity in DNA? Did you know that it is the 1% difference that accounts for the remarkably variant phenotypes we see?

Did you know that animals do not share certain genes with man?

My dear, certain genes, phenotypes and social behaviour among animals CANNOT be extrapolated to man. Here is just ONE example - did you know that mice and certain other animals CAN NEVER get asthma no matter how much you try to sensitize them?

Many psychology books are written for people like you and bawomolo who are merely looking for straws to grasp.

Even the science you all crow about proves you wrong.

bawomolo:
wrong

Funny. The number of clueless people who just make claims on these board is alarming.

Nimshi:


Your brain is in underdrive, eh? Need some brain food? 
.

not really, its not used to dealing with dishonest and unintelligent people.