₦airaland Forum

Moneywomen17:
I don’t know, a lot of different test done in Yoruba land goes back a lot of years but I do not know if Yoruba has been there since the day of Adam so it’s possible we likely came from somewhere

Okay ask your brother babaramota. He just wrote a long epistle depicting Yoruba as immigrants settlers.. I just want a verbal confirmation.
Are your people aliens in that land?

Obalufon:
stay inside your forest please

Forest is better than rocks and stones.

Moneywomen17:
what is “Nigeria” is the question

Okay.. Are Yorubas immigrants/settlers in the area they currently occupy?

BabaRamota1980:
A true Empire, a civilized people know their history throughly and then know the history of their neighbours as well. Why is it Yoruba is teaching Edo its history and that of its neighbors? Because they are uncivilized. Can you believe they had no clue that their palace face mask is in posession of Attah. They were at first arguing until we proved it.

Nupe and Yoruba, Baruba and Yoruba, Kanuri and Yoruba.....even Daura, yes...the Hausa Origin in Daura....hold on let me say this clearly.


There are two sets of people in Nigeria, the Aborigines and the Immigrants.


Ife aborigines (Ugbo), Nupe aborigines, Igala aborigines, Edo aborigenes (Efa), Ijaw aborigines, Ibo aborigines (ngwa), all these people have one root and that is the Niger-Benue basin.....these were descendants of NOK.


The traces of commonality in spoken language of Southern people have its roots in the Niger-Benue clan.


Then there is a band of Nilotic/Semitic settlers that arrived in waves. These ones brought with them king-priest covenants.

They entered here through the Chad water basin and settled there. A band of them remained in Chad. The rest moved down to the Niger-Benue water basin and remained there.

There were two distribution paths.

1. The Chad band spread westward into another water basin in Daura. From here they formed the Habe dynasty. The group that remained in Chad formed the Kanemi dynasty.

2. The Niger-Benue settlers went westward as well. They stopped on the Niger River. From here they broke into three directions.

a. Nupe
b. Baruba
c. Ile Ife

Each had its dynasty.

The Ile Ife party formed Oduduwa dynasty. They are known as Yoruba.

The Ife dynasty further spread out into the East, including Bini. Bini also gave spring to more dynasties.


So all the aborigines now have foreign settlers ruling over them.
How about Ngwa?

A band of Nilotic people had also migrated further away from Chad and down into the Congo basin. This group are nomadic. Some of them settled in Cameroun and others found their way into Nigeria and into the Ngwa land. Strangely, they had no dynasty and did not establish rulership. This due to the fact the settlers were hunters, not Kings or Priests. This set is the Igbo clan. Their King and Priests were left behind in Congo.

Similar movement occurred with Awori, a priest lineage that went and found new settlements on the coast but did not set up dynasty but Bini came afterward and extended its dynasty to rule over them. Bini dynasty also ruled a part of Iboland.

So u mean the Yorubas are immigrants in Nigeria..

Obalufon:
you are delusional you need a shrink .. past and present we supersede you na ..languish in your delusion and false past.. there is nothing wrong in self idolization is good so live in little brain of yours

Which past?? A past that is filled with Edo conquests and suzerainty over your tribe?
Or a present in which Edo State is more developed and richer than almost all Yoruba states?
I pity you. Express don leave u since.

Obalufon:
God go punish you.."" Lagos is for everybody ke!!!! edo is for everybody .. come to lagos island and say that dem go wash thousand of bottles on your edoid head ... All the states in southwest other tribes are working in local government and state and actively engage in politics which other state will never accept...we yoruba has been liberal from time immemorial we accept visitors


wetin ibo do for lagos than make money they are making riches off our back ..they are everywhere in southwest doing business

God don Dey punish una from beginning of time that’s why you were always conquered.
Lagos is no mans land..
Yoruba for Lagos fit fight? Which fight una don win for Lagos? Na every time Hausa Dey deal with una there na.

Obalufon:
NUPE never ruled oyo oyo encroached on them first ruled them for hundreds of years sango alafin mother was from nupe Nupe oral history is not complete without mentioning yoruba Nupe man speak both yoruba and nupe dialect .. Have their own version oral history of oranmiya and oduduwa... They grew in Military strength and destroyed oyo ile ,oyo relocated it's capital..oyo came back more stronger to chase them out across the Niger ...how many yoruba can speak nupe but most nupes speak yoruba even in Niger state ..

Do you know that it was mighty Benin Kingdom that helped Oyo monarchy reclaim Oyo back from Nupe after 100yrs in exile?

BabaRamota1980:
Hahahahahahaha.....

Ekladheran, everytime i ask you to define your conquest of villages in compare to facing off with your mates you use witchery to dissapear.


Stay put. You hear?
Why were you raiding small villages and farm communities and calling it conquest?

Why did you not fight kingdoms your size? Like Egba, Igala, Nupe....

Your problem is that u fail to realize that Nigerians are educated and can easily research for information.. your continuous rant about Igalas and nupes does not hold water. They were both defeated by Mighty Benin.
I prefer to stay focused on Yoruba. The Yorubas (including Egba) were conquered and ruled by Benin. Conquering Yoruba was the easiest for us. Your ancestors choose to flee into the bushes when Benin is coming. Your cowardly Men fled leaving their wives and children behind.. you know how many Yoruba men fell inside hole and some drowned while running away from Benin army?
Google is your friend, go research you will see it there. Yoruba too small for Edo..

BabaRamota1980:
With certainty you cannot run from ekladheran nor his father, nor the queen or owodo"s chiefs. You also cannot escape Igala and that mask. You cannot run away from Biafran Republic. You cannot escape the British expedition and its nonsense. However much you try and use witchery, they are stuck on you from now on in Nairaland.

There far more revelations to disclose...but there is a wisdom that there is no permanent enemy. So we possibly might end up in future banding together against others....for that reason we are keeping somethings back from internet. We are not here to shame you...but to dispute and discredit your ekladheran bullshyyte.

And what can the Yorubas run from?
Can you run from Edos conquest and subjugation of your race?
Can you run from the history of countless Yoruba monarchs beheaded by Benin?
Can you run from the fact that Benin founded Lagos?
Can u run from the truth that many present day Yoruba monarchs were installed by Benin Kingdom?
Can u even run from the truth that your people still engage in human rituals? Even yesterday a Yoruba child was used for rituals..
Can you run from the fact that your Oni is a descendant of a slave usurper and you are being ruled by slave.

Your mark is stuck on you in real life not on nairaland.

Olu317:
let me teach you a little about Yoruba etymology on Ada. There are many words in yoruba lexicon that has these same letters but different meaning . So, dont drag ‘AdaObi’, which is an Ibo name for first daughter in Iboland, because they are different. In yoruba, Àdà (sword), Àda ní(creator) Àdami(my creator), Âda( create ), Àdamo (created being from soil), Olú da silé ( the creator ). Àda/Uda/Ida is Yoruba word for sword. This doesn't mean, it can't be shared but strangely only Oba Bini use such word for his sword,which is usually carried infront of him . This is the point. Proof me wrong

Lol.. Ada in Edo language means outside..
it may also mean something in other languages. I had expected that you shud know that there are some words that sound the same in different languages but have different meanings in each language..
Arguing with u guys have made me realize that Yorubas are not really educated as claimed. There are dull Yorubas like babaramota. That guy is a slowpoke..

Olu317:
Do you mind Edos online liars? They always look for cheap glory,where there is non. Do you know that ADA/UDA that is common in Yoruba land,which special ones are inscribed on and given to princes , crept into the Bini lexicon/language? Guess what? Only Oba Bini use ADA(Scimitar always carried before the Oba) . This showed he is a foreigner . Edos beware.Yoruba own Biniland.

Like I said earlier you are a cheap mugu.. so igbos that answer Ada as name got it from Yoruba?

BabaRamota1980:
You came in riding high on the ekaladheran myth. You used to fill pages with nothing but the legendary stories of your hero.

To help you I posted a narration on the life of ekaladheran. I took it from an Edo website in order to be sure im using the authentic from the horse's mouth.

I dissected the retard and his dimwit father.

Following that Ive asked you, a believer of this hoax, several times to explain some phenomenon that are humanly impractical but which from Edo point of view is the proof that tie the ekaladheran to Oduduwa of Ife.

You dodged everyone of the questions I put to you.


If you are ready to answer them now I can bring the questions up to you again. In fact in the space of time between new things are discovered which should shed more light that ekaladheran could not ever have gone to Ife because his dimwit father was also banished from entering Ife.

Of all the people of Nigeria Yoruba is the only one you will engage online in a debate and at the end you will be thoroughly schooled and know things you never knew before.

This is because we argue on facts, and facts lead to discovery of new knowledge.

You argue on fact lol. Your arguments is based on myth and legends.
If you know what fact is you won’t deny that Benin conquered and ruled Yoruba.
You won’t deny Benin was the mightiest and only independent kingdom in the 18th century.

Anyways keep riding your wave of delusion using your myths and legends as your paddle.
Ekhaladeran is Oduduwa and he did not descend from the skies with chains.

Olu317:
As usual, always turning to abusive words for escape means. O.k ,show me ,where in any scholarly work, was said that Bini own Lagos? Bloody liar. The same way Bini claim Ga of Ghana is from Edo,right? In fact, Ashipa got to Lagos around 17th century, so how did Bini occupied Lagos in 14th/15th century? Have you no knowledge of history?

Sometimes I wonder if your denial is out of jealousy or you truly do not know.. if you truly don’t know then u lack basic knowledge..
Benin founded Lagos. The Aworis were never in Lagos. The area the Aworis occupied was on the outskirts of modern day Lagos. It is later the Aworis area was included as part of modern day Lagos.
Please take time to do research and also use wisdom to understand some basic things..

BabaRamota1980:

Ekladheran you always enjoy my flogging.

Yes Malian brought us Islam, and there was no conquest. They came as traders and travellers and were our guests in Ilorin which was an ancient trade route into and out of Yorubaland. Their presence amongst us led to cultural exchange and Islam. Yoruba has never been Islamized by conquest. Never in our history.

The same cannot be said of Edo.

Nupe entered Edoland and Islamized you through conquest.

If you like deny it so I can open a fresh evidence on your sufferheaf in the hands of Tapa warriors.

As many times you invite me to flogg you I will cherishly oblige.

See the conquered denying his History..
Do you forget that your forefathers were weaklings who were continually conquered and subjugated?
Great Benin Kingdom conquered and ruled Eastern Yoruba.
Fulani conquered and ruled Ilorin
Nupe conquered and ruled Oyo.

Now the Igbos are taking Lagos away from you, relegating your people to the slums.

BabaRamota1980:
Ooni is co-chairman of Nigerian Traditional Rulers. Anywhere traditional rulers assemble in Nigeria Ooni sit ahead of your king. If there are not enough chairs your Oba must stand.

Get sense....

So you mean a slave sits ahead of all Nigeria traditional rulers..
Does Oba of Benin attend those meetings?

Leave Benin witchery alone.. wonder why your people are still backward and engaging in human sacrifices.. using Yoruba women and children for rituals.. why is that so Babaramota?

Favor99:
I’m Edo(Esan) and I love the Yorubas. I always bring up our historical relationship to Yorubas I meet. We’re brothers. Similarly I love all Nigerians, Igbos, Yoruba, Ijaw, Edo, Uhrobo, Istekiri, Ibibio Efik Fulani Hausa Tiv
We need to stop fighting one another.

We never had animosity like this before the white man came and put enmity between us. Let’s empower and uplift ourselves. We’re doing more harm than good when we divide ourselves.

And I don’t know why Yorubas and Edos are fighting given our cultural and historical similarities.

As blacks we should learn and put our differences aside and unite. Whites are successful because even though they fought and hated each other, they viewed the man of color as a common enemy, so they United

The Yorubas started this with their feel good agenda.
How can they turn a Thank you visit by the Great Oba of Benin to Ife, turned it into the Oba going to pay homage? who does that?

Olu317:
Nope 1472 Read again, I said ‘before' 1475;....Bini didn't get to Lagos until late 17th century... Your falsehood is outrageous.

Mugu Olu.. The Year is irrelevant. Was it the Aworis that told the Portuguese Lagos belongs to Benin Kingdom?
Wow you are so Myopic and dumb, very dumb.. how can u miss the point I was making??

BabaRamota1980:
Dem no born dem well to mention ekladeran in my presence. I go start afresh and even show things that I kept quiet about.

Edo don buy market.

Sons of a dimwit ogiso!

Which is worse: dimwit Ogiso or a Slave Oni?
A dimwit Ogiso can be replaced but a Slave Oni will bring forth more Slave Onis.. You Yorubas will forever be ruled by a Slave.

BabaRamota1980:
Now look at his head carefully. He wears the Mali turban. Not the dan fodio turban.

But you dont know the difference because you are uncivilized in the political affairs of West Africa.

So you mean the Alake was a Malian? chai.. even Mali conquered and ruled your ancestors..

MayorofLagos:
Do you realize how he has tactically deconstructed and destroyed your Ekhaladeran? He has successfully convinced those who previously thought your hoax had any shred of truth to now have a rethink, people who would not ordinarily ask questions about such things are now awakened and wondering why, in a hierarchical and patrilineal society where a male child is golden, that a father would kill his only son in order to have more? He did great damage to your hoax when he used the analogy of a house owner burning down his property so he could acquire means to build more.

You call him inconsequential You need your head examined.

Mumu like you.. Which Hoax? Did you ask those people you mentioned between Ekhaladeran story and Oduduwa descending from the heavens which one they believe to be true?
While you there like the mumu you are wondering why a father will kill his son, why not wonder why the Yorubas are still using their women and children for rituals? Why is that so prevalent in the Yoruba society? Everyday you hear story of yoruba people killing women, children, using them for sacrifice.. ever wondered about badoo?
Do u really think Nigerians are stupid?

FYI: Ekhaladeran is Oduduwa.. and Everybody believes it.

Obalufon:
you think this people love you ..they hate your gut.. we yoruba are the most liberal tribe in Nigeria we accommodate everyone ,we treat people equally regardless of their tribe we judge base on peoples character yet they still hate us out of jealous.. is only in yoruba land you will see people from different states working in our local government and state and occupying sensitive political position easterner/ southerners /northerner becoming a chairman senate commissioner and Councillor which is very rare to come by in other state

Hey shut your mouth.. Which part of Yoruba land does foreigners hold positions in politics? Please don't say Lagos.. Lagos is for everybody (founded by Benin, settled by Yorubas, developed by Igbos).. It is no mans land.

Obalufon:
you think this people love you ..they hate your gut.. we yoruba are the most liberal tribe in Nigeria we accommodate everyone ,we treat people equally regardless of their tribe we judge base on peoples character yet they still hate us out of jealous.. is only in yoruba land you will see people from different states working in our local government and state and occupying sensitive political position easterner/ southerners /northerner becoming a chairman senate commissioner and Councillor which is very rare to come by in other state

Hey shut your mouth.. Which part of Yoruba land those foreigners hold positions in politics? Please don't say Lagos.. Lagos is for everybody (founded by Benin, settled by Yorubas, developed by Igbos).. It is no mans land.

BabaRamota1980:
Do you know the meaning of tuba?
Oya so fun Edo ko wa tuba.

If this means that much to you tell Edos to come confess their witchery and commit never to bother Yoruba again.

Is Edo witchery a menace to Nigeria society or the constant human rituals engaged by the Yorubas in this modern age? Yorubas are still using women and children for rituals, even Yoruba pastors engage in human sacrifice, Yorubas still burning people to death for little theft.. Non of these hardly happen in other parts of the country.. If that does not bother you then you are indeed lost.

MayorofLagos:
Unlike Olfert Dapper who has never stepped foot in Benin but gave illustrations of "walls that are washed and polished to look like mirror", here, from those on the ground and in contact with Benin, are true accounts of what they saw.

I see that you are still promoting your white masters excuse to justify their invasion of Benin Kingdom..
Continue spreading their lies of human sacrifices and blood everywhere.. Good for you.. At least we know who enabled the white man to successfully invade Benin Kingdom and other parts of West Africa..

If the British upon entering Benin City had taken pictures, the only dead bodies would have been the thousands of innocent women and children and men they killed with their guns and canons.. But they only took pictures of the looting of the palace and artifacts and of prisoners.
Everybody knows the white man tactics of justifying any invasion.. The Yorubas help them promote it.

Moorish:
Ok, so their sojourn in ondo lands would probably explain the linguistic similarities with "Yoruba" languages

That is a plausible arguement

The awujale claimed they migrated from his region tho

Is Awujale ilaje ruler?

Moorish:
I have always wondered about this

Although classed as an Edo tribe, the Itshekiri clearly speak a Yoruboid language?

However they are largely an Edoid tribe

So much so it was them who the oba of benin used in the succesfull punitive attack on lagos island

they formed the naval force by the way

So "Yorubas" do not be ignorant of this

When push comes to shove, the itshekiris will side with other Edoid groups

As personally witnessed by me.. in that unfortunate childhood experience of mine

Origin of itsekiris..
The itsekiris first migrated out of Igodomigodo and settled along the coasts of ondo with the Ilajes.. hundreds of years later offsprings of these first immigrants decided to return home, sailed along the coasts and settled in present day itsekiri lands.
If the itsekiris come out to say they are not Edo but Yoruba the urhobos and ijaws will immediately chase them out of that area being Edo is why they are able to remain there.

Moneywomen17:
it seems u can also not read too congratulations davidnaze ur foolishness is as big as the world.

Whatever.. just letting you know that itsekiri is not Yoruba before u claim what’s not urs again.

Moneywomen17:
keeping writing unnecessary trash I won’t indulge u no wonder the itsekiri bro beat the shit out of u like u said he is doin his Yoruba brother a favor.

Itsekiris are not Yorubas..

Moneywomen17:
i have no idea what the Bleep u are talking about but u sound pained thou so I love it.

Ok in pigdin; u Dey suffer lack of sex, make u take cream go stand for corner mastubate.
No Dey hate moorish and him woman.

Moneywomen17:
well it’s not a new invention cus it has been done before by others but creating an already existing invention in the Nigeria space.

Anyways moneywoman only u no reach for me to fight. I will wait for your mumu brothers (obalofun, Olu and that ritualist babaramota) to wake so I can deal with them.

Moneywomen17:
I don’t need ur unnecessary story none of my concern

Congeal Dey worry u. Go carry big breeze go corner go self-service. Mumu.

Moneywomen17:
so Edo State is also richer than Lagos state joker. Ogun alone is twice as rich as ur inconsequential state where minority edo boys less than 3 million live

Lagos is not Yoruba.. Oba of Lagos already confirmed that.
Benin used to own it, now Igbos have bought it relegating the Yorubas to the slum.
I already said Ogun is richer than Edo but all other Yoruba states are beneath Edo.