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BabaRamota1980:
Ekladheran, Yes! . Same oyinbo that said your Empire extend from Bini to Kilimanjaro. Yes, im reading them. Do you have problem with that?

In fact Im reading Olfert Dapper where he said "Bini walls are washed and made to look like mirror" Thats the greatest witchery ever discovered by man.


Ooni was invited by Brazil. You know Braxil is a portuguese speaking country, correct? All the narrations and written records documented about coastal Africa is accessible to them. They know where Bini is and they know Ife is your father. They invited the Head of Yoruba race. Do you have problem with that?

Did you ever finish the task i gave you? Was ekladherhn a priest or not? This is your next class assignment.

Shut up your dirty mouth.. Oni was NOT invited by the Brazilian government.. Its the Ifa worshipers there that invited him.. and I doubt if they even know that your Oni is a serial divorcee and cannot keep a woman. It is normal for a registered group in a country to invite anyone they want if it suits their purpose. In North America, when we celebrate Edo nation's day we invite chiefs and prominent Edo citizens from around Edo state.. na normal thing, just that little things excite you dumb yorubas.

Just accept your history of enslavement and subjugation... stop all this your futile attempts to make yourself look good to the world.. nobody cares.. The Western world will always see you (all blacks) as Africans, a primitive people..

For your information it wasn't the whites that said Benin Kingdom extended from here to Togo in the west and Congo in the east, or that Benin conquered and ruled your race for over 500years.. It was fellow Africans that confirmed it and the whites witnessed it.

steveosaz:
Imagine this brainless Arrow.
Don't you yo-robber jokers ever read what you post? Even the crappy screenshots you posted has contradictory information.

You forgot your abobaku who is usually killed upon the death of the ooni. Why did the last abobaku run away when Sijuwade died?

Tell us that.

Abobaku is balling big time in London oo.. The guy don fresh...
I wonder why their drunk and dubious Ifa no see say abobaku go escape..

BabaRamota1980:
Im going to show that your ancestors were kept as slaves for Oba and used in human sacrifice to worship his fathers in Ife.

Your witchery has no limits even oyinbo that lived in your midst and wrote about you complained of Edo witchery.

And while you are here fighting for a history in which you were a clearly documented as a conquered and an enslaved tribe, do you know that in this present age Yoruba states along with their brother fulani states are the most backward and underdeveloped states in Nigeria?
Edo state is far more developed and richer than all the Yoruba states... and your slave Oni is busy patronizing different owambe parties looking for egunje.

BabaRamota1980:
Their witchcraft too much.

No other land beats Edo in human sacrifice and witchery

But this document is only contradicting the whiteman's claim about human sacrifices in Benin land, saying it wasn't true.. Abi u no read am?
Are you really that stupid or you borrow the idiot cap from your brother Y0ruba and put it on?

You should be more concerned about the human rituals done yesterday again in Ekiti.. and another corpse without body parts found some days ago in Ijebu..
Yorubas are indeed useless...

BabaRamota1980:
Im about to show you slave.

Ooni is in Brazil to declare a diaspora capital founded by Yoruba slaves. Thats a legacy and a monument that lives on.

Orun Oba Ado in Ife is the crypt of Binin Obas, a monument that lives on.

Where is the monument erected for your ancestors that were sacrified to the worship in Ife? Where is any monument to remember the Edo stock of male slaves slaughtered when the Oba dies?

Are you aware that hundreds of your forefathers were slaughtered in Bini to ward off the punitive expedition of 1897? It was believed killing hundreds of the Edos and spilling their blood at the gate will appease the gods and save Bini blood from the impending wrath.

Is your witchery still working?

Where is a monument for many of you slaughtered when Biafra occupied you and ra.yped you for 48hrs?

Mmmtcheew...im wasting time asking you to explain.
Let me just post so the papers can explain themselves.

I see you are still reading the script given to you by your white masters to whom u humbly surrendered your destiny and also aided them in robbing Africa..
Do you know that the first Yoruba man to start selling Africa lands and heritage to the white man was Akintoye of Lagos? Do you know that after that Oyo sold themselves followed by the Ijebus?

Please did Brazilian government sign documents with Oni to acknowledge the Brazilian state as part of Yoruba nation? or is it just word of mouth from a slave Oni you guys are excited about?
The Igbos have long been declaring everywhere there are Igbos majority as part of Igbo nations and installing monarchs there.. Na now una start and u are celebrating lol..

BabaRamota1980:
The conclusion is final and any remaining doubt about who fathered the other between Ife and Bini is erased by the collective articles of history and current affairs authored by credible and authentic scholars and submitted by Yorubas to reinforce the facts.

Unlike Yoruba, Edo has failed to submit a single article or publication from authentic source and backed by academic authorities in support of its claim that Bini fathered Ife.

What Edo has done, and failed at accomplishing, is use of dirty words, attack on the stool of Ooni, attack on his personality, attack on Yorubas, use stereotype but false labels to denigrate Yorubas, attack on individual posters in here with vulgar and filthy words. In short, they diverted away from proving their claim as source....thereby leaving room for Yoruba to dealt blow, article after article, and demolish their claim.

I salute Yorubas! You have done four things in this thread.


1. Raised consciousness to the fact there are two societies and descendant pedigree, the aristocrat Bini foreigner, the indigeneous Edo.

2. Convinced that Ogiso Owodo had a dysfunctional family, palace and rule, and his son, Ekaladheran himself had a questionable character and insanity of mind.

3. Proved that Edo society at the transition of sovereign power from Oranmiyan to Eweka were still much in disarray and disorderly, refusing to accept a foreign ruler on their land. To pacify their rebellion, the Chiefs used Ekaladheran as a hook to make Eweka acceptable. This started the HOAX, which you have convincingly articulated.

4. Established, one after the other, records in arts, history, ethnography, anthropology...that consistently support and show unbiased evidence that Ife birthed Bini, which then birthed other lands beyond. That the Bini Kingdom is a Yoruba property.


Oduduwa a Gbe wa o!

And you only got one like to this rubbish you wrote lol.. Doesn't that show you that Yorubas are indeed slaves.. nobody takes the ranting of a demented slave serious..

Moneywomen17:
shut up there dumbass royal bureaucracy are the people that work hand in hand with the king in several administrative and so many other roles. If it meant slave it will just state slave on the article. According to the article it says “some natives (Benin) natives may have also serve in Benin administrators but the attraction of foreigners as loyal dependencies without bothersome family ties may have influenced the Benin ruler to staff their association with Yoruba rather than subjects of Benin.” Let me explain that in simple English for u ur king rather want Yoruba as administrative of his kingdom rather than Benin natives cuz of their loyalty and no family ties in Benin. U don’t have to be a “scholar” to understand simple English. Below is what administrators do as u can see if Benin boys mess up its likely Yoruba administrators that will u know punish them lol.

If you like twist it.. We already know what the royal bureaucracy was. They were people employed work in the palace administration, and not in the general affairs of the kingdom. The king had his ministers to do that.
Your people were just palace slaves, working in the day to day administration of the palace.. Their job ranges from bodyguards, security, cook, messengers, some could even rise up to the level of personal assistant on some matters..

Anyways the reason you mumu brother posted the document was to show that Yoruba was the official language of the Benin Palace.. but since we showed him how stupid he was, you guys now changed the narrative lol..
So what are you trying to prove now with the document? All I see is its says Yoruba slaves were employed to work in the palace.

I don't see what your definition of administrator got to do with anything.. Being an administrator doesn't make you royalty or give you nobility.. It is a job.. Even a slave can be appointed to administer over security or administer over cutting of grass around the palace..

Y0ruba:
The dimwit who hasn’t posted one page of a research, not even from the Oba Bini’s palace is upset

Here, the screenshots I posted will haunt you for a very loooooong time. See the parts highlighted in ‘crayons’ this time read slowly. Dum.bb fook.

Fake scholar, is simple English a problem for you? I already told you that this document you posted simply says that Yorubas were slaves employed to work in the palace and you are still celebrating your stupidity..
I see that it is the word "Royal Bureaucracy" that is confusing your peanut sized brain abi..

Let me educate you because I know you lack basic education.
Bureaucracy simply means "people/staffs that work in a government. Royal Bureaucracy means people/staffs that work in a palace.
Don't get it twisted fake scholar.. The Lucumites (Yorubas) were the people (slaves) employed to work in the palace, because they can be easily punished (beheaded) if they error unlike the natives who if punished can cause sentiments against the Palace..

I said it before that you are not a scholar.. You are a MUMU..

steveosaz:
Not very smart means a little bit smart. How do you agree a person is a little bit smart and at the same time dumb?

Dude, you need help. Your appearance this time around has proved that you are an empty brain. Your flops here have been embarrassing.

No mind am. Shame catch am as I point out his error. Yorubas will keep on serving Edo’s pleasure.

BabaRamota1980:
^^^^^^^^^^^

Calling on all descendants of ekladheran and the dimwit Owodo to report here immediately.

Calling on all ekladhreans and all owodos to report here immediately and identidy with the above.

The attention of all the descendant line of ekladheran and his dimwit father is hereby drawn to the above .

Again.....any and all sundries with claims on ekladheran and owodo and their legacy are forthwith requested to drawn gaze on the above article and respond.

Go and bow to your slave Oni..
Your past is slavery, your present is still slavery and your future will also be slavery.. Continue worshiping your slave Oni..

Y0ruba:
Babaramota1980, you nor go kill mans with laugh o

You nor go believe say these Bini people dey worship Sango sha.

And at a point in their revisionislm they claimed Ogiso was Oduduwa’s son . A very confused bunch they are. I’m sure at some point they will make claims that Ooni Owodo was the same as Ogiso Owodo.

Once again the foolish scholar have made another mockery of himself..
This new document that you posted that calls Oduduwa an invading force that conquered Ife, talks about snail shell with earth, Oba Ogiso as first Oba of Benin, is that part of any Yoruba actual history you have heard?
This is basically myths and fables or fairy tales the Europeans believed about Africa and you a big idiot posting it and feeling happy with yourself. The reason I attack any idiotic post you bring is because you called yourself a scholar.. You are doing damage to all reputable scholars..
I said it before you have a peanut sized brain and very shallow.. You are indeed a mumu..

Y0ruba:
You’re slow and deluded.

You are dum.b and not very smart - I’m not sorry to say this.

I won’t respons to your frivolities anymore. Abeg post citations & research papers pursuant to ypur claims.

I don't need to post anything.. Your documents are enough for me.. It clearly refutes your foolish claims that Yoruba language was the official language of the Benin Palace.. You even went as far as to say Benin Palace chiefs were Yorubas..
You are indeed a fool..
I feel sorry for your Yoruba brothers.. You guys keep deceiving them making them even more dumber and misinformed..
That'show another Yoruba fake scholar said eredo wall is the biggest man made structure in the world.. bigger than walls or chain and pyramids of egypt lol..
You are very shallow and myopic.. Fake Scholar.

Y0ruba:
Analysis of a man who said research isn’t about digging into the past.

I wish you well with your skewed mind.

Research is good.. digging into the past is also good.. but being dubious about the results is foolish because you will be caught just like how I caught you now twisting facts..
You are not a scholar stop deceiving Babaramota and his likes..

My mind is very open and full of sense, unlike you that have a peanut sized brain..
please bring more documents for my pleasure..

Y0ruba:
You seem upset.

The document clearly states that the king is surrounded by Chiefs who are Yoruba/Bariba in order that emotions may not get in the way when errant subject are to be punished.

The document also went further to state that the presence of Lucumies (Yoruba/Bariba) did not mean Biini people did not serve their king in the palace but rather that the Bini indigenes served as slaves in the palace and these slaves had families.

Upset ke? I’m annoyed at the size of ur brain; small and shallow.. the only people u fool here are ur own Yoruba brothers.
Do you even understand the purpose of the document you posted? A document that clearly discredited Yoruba claims that Yoruba language was the lingua franca of the Benin palace.
I know you lack understanding that’s why u posted that document to ur detriment.

The document simply explains that the people that spoke Yoruba in Benin palace were the slaves employed to work in the palace. The palace preferred these foreigners to work in the palace instead of natives because the slaves can be easily punished (beheaded) if they error..

If u like keep twisting stories, u only end up fooling ur own brothers.
Reading a lot of books doesn’t make u smart or wise..

Y0ruba:
Babaramota1980, Nisai, Moneywomen17, Olu317, MayorofLagos & my fellow Yoruba folks.

With reference to Yoruba being spoken in the palace, a phenomenon which the Bini have also denied, please see this below:

This man that calls himself Y0ruba, you are really a dumb one.. Do you evenb understand the document you provided in reference to yoruba language spoken in Benin palace?

It simply says the King does not use his own people as slaves in the palace because he cannot give them capital punishment if they erred.. Hence Yoruba slaves were employed to work in the palace because those ones can be easily punished.. That was the people that spoke yoruba language in the palace.

You are not a scholar at all.. You be mumu

The plague/frame presented to Oni is the image of Idia of Great Benin Kingdom!!
Benin arts and heritage recognized and appreciated everywhere..

Moneywomen17:
but shut ur dumbass mouth which serial divorcée. The ooni is his own man. But if u want to keep attacking his personal life be careful cuz ur village king is without one I will find it and bring it all out. Ur king is married to three wife who always have to cover there mouth in his presence and still probably marrying more u can also ask what example is he giving edo children especially ur girls.

Polygamy is an African thing.. but serial divorcee is not.
It seems u don’t know u Oni has divorced up to three women.

KingSango:
What's wrong with standing together as Nigerians to demand the return of Nigerian art? Why the fighting each other and never uniting?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyLgzVoQguo

www.undergroundriseup..com

Ase

Love Sango

Please there is nothing like Nigerian art.. it’s Edo arts..

Moneywomen17:
ife never agreed to install a slave as a king only happened in ur deluded mind and when did Alaafin said what u accuse him of saying was it the brutal feud between him and the previous ooni or not. The current ooni is a legitimate business man that has never been convicted of any crime whatsoever.

Oni that cannot keep a wife.. your Oni is a serial divorcee. Which example is he giving Yoruba children??

Olu317:
Just look at what you have been posted. You lacked knowledge on Yoruba history and you refused to study . Have you no studying attitude that Ifa Heritage Institute, Nigeria is the only Higher Education institution in the world that specializes in the study of all aspects of Yoruba indigenous culture ? Ifa was incorporated in November 2005, into UNESCO (United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization) proclaimed Ifá as one of the 86 traditions of the world to be regarded as Masterpieces of the Oral and Intangible Heritage of Humanity.
This is the gift of God to Yoruba and the world at large. Proudly Omoluabi

Who cares? Benin moats are number one in Guinness book of records and also listed in top 10 heritages in UNESCO.. So I’m proudly Oviedo Kpataki..

However that doesn’t answer you yorubas claim that Ifa can be used as replacement for DNA analysis to determine parentage..
you guys are jokers.

Olu317:
Is Ooni Ogunwusi the richest Odudua descendant ? You are absolutely ignorant.

Guy the present Oni bought the throne. He may not be the richest but he was more sensible than the other bidders.

steveosaz:
See this shameless comedian. So what has your blind ifa been looking at all this while that traditional stools were being sold to the highest bidder in yorubaland?

You sound thoroughly stupid and ridiculous for even bringing it such a laughable line of thought.

Hahaha bro u are wicked lol..
Ifa don drink ogogoro confuse

BabaRamota1980:

Not in Yorubaland abeg! Chiefs that lie on oracle is an Edo thing.

Oracle that associates itself with people that engage in human rituals, use children and women for sacrifice is a useless oracle..

Listen, the true essence of Ifa has long departed Yoruba lands because of your evil and wicked ways.
What you have now is dubious elements parading themselves as Ifa or Ifa priests.

BabaRamota1980:
Who told you Ifa can be used to determine DNA parentage?

See how witchery no allow you concentrate?

Ifa can be used to legitimize paternity. YES!


Olfert wrote hearsay about Bini and became authority on Bini ....amazing!

Ok so you mean Ifa gave legitimacy to a slave descendant (not oduduwa biological line) to take the throne of Ife? hmmm this Ifa seems dubious sha. U sure dem no bribe am with ogogoro and akpeteshi?
And from ur statement are u agreeing that the Oni is not really Oduduwa descendant but Ifa has spoken so it must be obeyed?

BabaRamota1980:
You dont believe you can validate birth legitimacy with Ifa.....but you believe Olfert Dapper that you can "wash Bini walls and turn them into mirror?"

Edo and witchery....
mtttchheew, smh for una.

Dapper documented true accounts of what he was told by European visitors to Great Benin Kingdom. But you yorubas believe that Ifa can be used to accurately determine DNA parentage more than the scientific methods.
I said before that your name “babaramota” sounds foolish.. you are indeed a foolish Yoruba man.

BabaRamota1980:
Where did you hear that the present Ooni is not direct descendant of Ooni Oduduwa?

There is something we call Ifa in Yorubaland. All our Obas have Ifa and an Ifa priest.

Before science discovered dna Ifa has been used to validate lineage and pedigree in Yorubaland.

....and if i may add, our priests do not turn the oracle message upside down and lie as you guys do in Edo.

So ifa can be used to validate parentage? It’s as authentic as DNA?? Gawdammit. You yorubas are hilarious �

BabaRamota1980:
Didnt ekalahderan become Ooni again, abi una witchcraft got you guys confused?

So if ekaladheran started Ooni and your brother said thats a slave throne what does it make your Eweka?

You are actually the confused one..
First of all, this present Oni is not a direct lineage of oduduwa. History as confirmed his ancestor usurped the throne from oduduwa’s son after oduduwa died. You can correct me if I’m wrong.

Secondly, who are the original speakers of the Yoruba language? Is it the immigrants (convenant founders) or the aboriginals?

steveosaz:
You are not well! This is why I have decided to allow you and your ilks display you madness to the full glare of the public.

That you yorubas claim ile ife as your source is basically what you sick fvcks were programmed to do. There's absolutely no statement of fact in that.
Even the ijebus have claimed to have come directly from Arabia themselves and not originating from ife.

The Awujale and Alaafin's claims stands.You are too small and infinitesimal to change that. Ooni is a slaveboy and you all bow to slaves because you yourselves are slaves.

Babaramota has confirmed that the Yorubas migrated from only god knows where. They are aliens in Nigeria

Moneywomen17:
There is few people on this thread right now I will comment again once more when people are here. Till then am out

Maybe they are tired of fighting..

BabaRamota1980:
Okay, get this....
Do you recall where I asked why Bini had a king in Lagos at the time it did if Binis were the original founders?

You were smart to dodge that question cause I would have battered you badly and without pity.


In human history aboriginals do not set up a king-priest rulership. Anywhere in human society you find a king there are two sets of occupiers on the land, the aborigines, usually they own the land, and the immigrants, they rule the land.

Aboriginals may set up a clan or elders council usually no higher than a chiefdom that manages order in the society but they are very seldom complex in structure as is with king-priest administrators.

That doesn’t answer my question.. are the Yorubas immigrants settlers in their present area?
Don’t worry I won’t use your answer to batter you (yet)..