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Moorish:
David, you are my bro and I respect you but...

Please do not generalize about my kin again

You and I have made peace yet you are still revving up this stereotypical rhetoric of Yoruba subservience and cowardice

We all suffer from self hate..

Cmon

We are talking about a millennium of collective continental defeat and oppression

Bro if u check properly u will see I haven’t posted anything for the past few days but your brothers on the other hand are not relenting so I have no choice but to start firing my weapons of mass destruction.. sorry if it touches you but ur brothers forced my hand.

Moneywomen17:
davidnaze dumbass tell me the ethnic group that is driving Africa technology forward in Nigeria with series of invention

I said it before I admire Yoruba present achievements..
but anyways sha tell me the series of inventions you talking of?

Moneywomen17:
I can never be in the same train of thought with a dumbass like u. Yoruba were going through a civil war like hundreds of civilization even the French still went through civil war as late as 20c. U said if we are a sovereign why were we sold to the new world I gave u a befitting explanation. Even the Benin were conquered easily by the British cuz of the betrayer in their rank meanwhile British had to conquer Lagos separately in a war they had to fought ijebu seperaty in a alwar and the egba were sovereign until the 1914 amalgamation so like I said read and talk about things u know about

Liar ooo.. The greatest harm a man can do to himself is self deceit..
How did the British conquer Lagos? Akintoye signed Lagos over to the British.. The war the British fought in Lagos was to help Akintoye take the throne from Kosoko who was at that time the ruler of Lagos, He was Edo..
Kosoko with the help of Benin army had initially defeated Akintoye, crushed his fighters.. Akintoye took refuge on the British ship and it was on that ship he knelt down and begged the British for help promising if he wins he will sign Lagos over as a British protectorate.
I guess you didn’t know sha but go research and u will see.

Moneywomen17:
lol trash u are making no sense. War is fought not only to create destruction but to also achieve peace and the way it’s going soon it’s inevitable so stop ur nonsense u keep writing

I pity you Yorubas beating war drums. If the war does happen, you will be sold into slavery again..
If you are looking at your British masters for help you will be mistaken. You have no bargaining power in this modern world.

Moneywomen17:
like I said unenlighten and uneducated u are what sovereign force are edo. What of the sokoto caliphate or the Borno kingdom what if the successor to the oyo empire Ibadan that was growing daily. By the coming of the British edo were already weak so how are they the sovereign force u are a joker and just cuz u keep calling urself oyo son doesn’t mean u have any sense up in ur head.

That “Edo was weak” by the coming of the British is just a propaganda spread by the British. Go read the true British accounts of the Benin-British war.. Why do u think even the British themselves cannot forget that war?
The British confessed they fought a mighty army and they only won due to their superior weapons..
how do you fight a weak army using 9 warships, 2000 British marines and 10,000 soldiers?

FYI, I hope you don’t really believe Benin fought using bows and arrows lol.

Moneywomen17:
like I said u are unelightened and probably uneducated edo are a very small minority in Nigeria and have little to nothin to say about what goes on in Nigeria. And what do U mean only tribe who resisted slavery in south what the Bleep do u mean. Edo descendant in the new world are recen migration to Italy nothin more.

Edo State is more developed and richer than all Yoruba states except Ogun State.. That is a fact.

Obalufon:
they hate us.. so i hate their gut

Nobody hates you. You hate yourselves. We only see u as sell outs.

Moneywomen17:
I will advice u to read history well first edo na small boy for Nigeria no need to dialogue with them second read Nigeria history relating to ibo and the Yoruba there is no dialogue let everybody face his own business simple as that. A lot of young Yoruba are tackling Yoruba problem in this geographical expression called Nigeria and we will solve it without involving saboteurs called “south”

Edo Na small boy but yet they conquered and ruled your ancestors for hundreds of years.. The fear and hatred towards Edo still lingers on among ur people for they can never forget that they were once subjects of mighty Benin Kingdom.

Obalufon:
we have animal living among us ..like this edo people they are not human

Edos are humans in the real sense just as Yorubas are cowards and weaklings in the real sense.

Obalufon:
you are a fool ..Fulani never conquered yoruba it was Islamic war Yoruba had had Muslims among them for 400yrs before afonja if you don't know..ilorin declare independent from oyo, they tried to capture other cities under their caliphate ...Ibadan defeated them in oshogbo captured their senior generals and execute them read history ..

I already said it before that we should leave all these facts and evidence.. you don’t agree with my facts and I will not agree with yours. So let’s just stay in the gutter and continue the slug fest, fighting and calling each other names. I have a lot of mud for you.
You guys started it.

Moneywomen17:
shut the Bleep up the north the Igbo all of them are all Yoruba enemy. I know the north well myself and I also know the rest of the tribe too as well. Go to the average street of Yoruba and tell me the Yoruba that “love” northerner thesame north we call aboki and gworo chewer. Only politics bring Yoruba and north together and until 2015 yoruba has made no such alliance with the north check well the history of Nigeria if u are too dumb to know majority of when north rule they mostly have an ibo vice not Yoruba. U do not know the north more than me nor do u know the ibo and other tribe more than me yoruba are in a mess but the solution remain with Yoruba not some enemies called “southern tribe”

You really are ignorant.. the reason other Nigerian tribes are wary of the Yorubas is the they see Yorubas as the tool the North use in oppressing the rest of Nigeria.. The Yorubas are sell outs.
Do u think the Northerners could have been able to have a hold over the south if the Yorubas have refused to work with them?

Moorish:
Do you brothers ever ponder on the universal beauty of the black woman?

How does she feel seeing her god the black man subservient to a man he is superior to both mentally and physically?

Just because you gods do not know how to unite and build bridges

For 2000 years us and our fathers getting f.ucked in the ass by mutants we civilized

Wake up black man

At a time Africans should come together and emancipate themselves from mental slavery and suppression the western world have subjected us to the Yorubas still prefer to continue worshipping their white masters because it makes them feel superior.
The world is about to jump another 1000yrs forward in technological development, the question is will Africa be left behind??

Moneywomen17:
Bleep out here man ur a big dumbass nobody cares of ur referee position u gave urself if u want peace ignore this thread and go to sleep boy.

Hahahaha.. eya. Frustration in human form..
U never see yet. You and your mumu and useless brothers (except moorish) go cry when I’m done with you.

Moneywomen17:
edo fools like davidnaze are stark illiterate the biggest on nairaland if it’s posting fraudulent source without refrence he is good at that but to actually watch a video is very difficult for him lol.

Why will I watch ur videos? Will u watch the 100s of videos describing Edo conquest over Yoruba lands if I post them?
Leave videos make we enter gutter fight, after all that’s how u describe this argument

Obalufon:
your head will soon lost... Mr behead

How my head wan lost? Like yours that is forever lost?

Obalufon:
..Teach this slowpoke ...yoruba were literate people ..since 13 century were writing in Arabic ajami .

Literate but yet submissive abi.. whats the point of your knowledge if you are eternally submissive?

Moneywomen17:
like I said another davidnaze source no refrence to where he read it from lol just fraud. If I ask for link to the place u read it from u will start cursing me men edo boys like u are illiterate I swear. Lol

see your source.. http://www.ekimogundescendant.org/the-true-meaning-of-the-word-yoruba-2/

Obalufon:
you don start again ..Nobody fear yoruba yet we control Nigeria..the day Yoruba say we are done with Nigerian the country will break immediately

Which Nigeria does Yoruba control? U are really funny..
anyways you don read my post about the origin of Yoruba name? let me know what u think.. no cry oo

Moneywomen17:
the record that is there shows that the name has no Hausa origin except to edo fools and ibo fools too. Post ur research any one that shows the name Yoruba has any Hausa origin u won’t cause na fraud but na Yoruba name ur land ile bini cuz so long oranmiyan don know so u boys na angry folks and till today u bear such name.

Okay see what your learned Yoruba brother found when he researched the origin of the name Yoruba.. He even confirmed that it on record in "European" archives.. Even Europeans knows meaning of Yoruba. Thank God he no lie like una. He even compared your acceptance of the name to the Igbos rejection of the derogatory word Hausas tried to give them. Shame on you Yorubas.

[b][b]"I asked a lot of people to define Yoruba, nobody had a clue so I decided to return to history and I delved into what Yoruba scholars of the past centuries had written. Slowly I began to unravel the mystery of our name.
The first hint I got was from an ordinary search which spouted Yoruba. What does that mean?? I carried on, I moved on to the always ready Yoruba dictionary written by Samuel Ajayi Crowther which defines ‘Yoruba’ as a bastard and deceitful person.

Another came from the one I found on a scholarly written journal of Dr Taiwo Ayanbolu who insisted Yoruba is a name derived from Hausa language which means deceit. He claimed he found the definition at York Museum in England dating to the 19th century.
Before I go further here, I would like to stress how the name came aboard. It has been recorded that the Hausa-Fulani who had been in contact with the Yoruba even before the rise of Oyo Empire had for some reasons chosen to call us Yoruba, or Yaribansa.

The Igbos had cleansed themselves off ‘Yinmiri’, a name the Hausa-Fulani had technically given to them. The igbos have today refuted Yinmiri to be a derogatory word, however, the reverse is the case for the Yoruba. From findings I have made, Yaribansa is a Fulani word meaning Bastard. An extremely derogatory word in Yoruba discourse.
I read one of Professor Ade Ajayi’s book “Yoruba Warfare in the Nineteenth century” where he insisted that during the indirect rule era, it was necessary for the imperialists to give a unique name to the entire towns and people who spoke Yoruba language.

Somehow, they settled for Yoruba. Yoruba is a deviation of Yoruba which the Yoruba people of that century rejected. The Ijebu, Ijesa and Egba rejected this name vehemently but because during the Kiriji war (the Yoruba civil war) where the collapse of Oyo Empire commenced and the signalling factor the imperialists used to prompt the rule over Oyo from covers. The name Yoruba was foisted on Oyo and Ibadan mainly on documents and slowly the name Yoruba was enshrined in our culture and hence, our appellation.

Research shows that the Egba were the last to accept Yoruba as their appellation, reason coming from facts emanating from the first newspaper published in Yorubaland in 1859, goes: Iwe Iroyin Fun Ara Egba Ati Yoruba. This indicates that the Egba refused the name Yoruba as at 1859.

Furthermore, I have read the Odu Ifa and I have familiarised myself with many Ogede Ofo, Iwure and Ewi of the past generations and I have never heard where we were referred to as Yoruba, rather, as Omo Kaaro Ojiire, Omo Oduduwa or Omoluabi.

I am penning this for us to know the origin of the word Yoruba, it is a bitter pill to swallow especially now that the name has travelled far and wide, should we try to augment our appellation Yoruba? certainly too late to make any sort of modification. We might as well just carry on dealing with it.

Source & Written By: Bola Olalekan
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Moneywomen17:
out of all the king u mentioned a refrence was only made about the dejis the rest only happened in ur imagination. Ogedengbe conquer almost ur own town and reach ur capital till ur king has to appease him that’s what a conqueror his. Ogedengbe oko edo

Really only Dejis.. haba Yoruba and lies are like brothers and sisters..
Well I have posted some sweet information below for you.

Ewi Idagunmodo (1696--1710) beheaded in 1710 by Benin for failing to pay tributes.
Ewi Okinbaloye Aritawekun (1710-1722) beheaded in 1722
Ewi Amono Ola (1722-1762) beheaded in 1762
Ewi Afunbiowo (1762-1781) beheaded in 1781
Ewi Akulojuorun (1781-1808) assassinated by Benin for political reasons
Ewi Aroloye (1808-1836) who reigned at Ado beheaded for his part in uprising and revolt against Benin rule
Oluyin of Uyin sentenced to death by hanging in 1841 for his part in uprising against Benin
Oba of Ado killed for his role in compromising Benin suzerainty in Ado-Ekiti

and many more which I cannot remember now but will update you on them as soon as I can

Moneywomen17:
keep crying dumbass and if u mean Europeans u mean edo Italians illiterate then I will agree with u but actual knowledgeable Europeans know the origin of the word Yoruba if u have any contrary view post a reputable Europeans source if not keep crying.

hahahaha.. e dey pain you say Yoruba means BASTARDS and IM-BECILES.. I didn't invent it.. blame the Hausas who invented it and blame your weak and cowardly ancestors who accepted it.

Moneywomen17:
e pain am well and when u mean all Nigerians please refer to dumbass edo and illiterate ibos on nairaland cuz anybody that knows actual history I mean written down history knows the name has no origination from Hausa but it might to pained edo fool like davidnaze

Stop making a fool of yourself jor.. Its all on record how Yoruba got their name.. just type it on google.. Origin of the Yoruba name.. It will be right there.. I know you wil do it lol..

FYI, If the Igbos was friendly to the Hausa/Fulanis, they would be the ones the Hausa/fulani will prefer to parley with.. they are more industrious than you guys na. But unlike you cowards they did not bend their knee like your Oni is doing round Nigeria..

Moneywomen17:
ogedengbe pepper edo boys no be small he beheaded ur chief took their wife and ur king had to beg him I think he is more than a bandit

Well the only record of beheadings in Nigeria history is the Benin executions of Yoruba monarchs.. Dejis, Ewis, Oluyins, Baales, Obas were all beheaded by Benin.. mind you, the beheading wasn't done unfairly.. They were all tried in Benin courts and found guilty of standing up against Benin rule and subsequently sentenced to death by beheading.. only the Oluyin was sentenced to death by hanging..

Edos are not bandits, we are conquerors and administrators..

Moneywomen17:
dumbass tank me for the education I just gave u.

Pained and frustrated fellow.. maybe you should give all Nigerians that Education because all Nigerians know that your Hausa/Fulani masters labelled you Yoruba (meaning bastards and im-beciles).. I wonder why the British even acknowledge that name knowing what it stands for.. abi they agreed that you guys are really worthless?

Moneywomen17:
shut up there fool another lie made popular by u and ur fellow edo fools. The name Yoruba was first written down in the treatise written by the Songhai scholar Ahmed baba way back in the 16th century when he visited oyo empire to refer to the people of oyo. The oyo told him they were Yoruba and that’s what he wrote down not the other way around. U tell strangers who u are cuz strangers do not name u. Yoruba is only a degrading name to a edo fool like u.

Please don;t lie.. Even the current Europeans knows Yoruba is a degrading name from your Hausa/Fulani masters.. If you don't believe me go research it.. They all know the origin.

Moneywomen17:
u mean the universal truth according to edo fool who spew jargons for fun. Edo na small village that is being ruled by a Yoruba dynasty and was beaten severally by many Yoruba sub tribe especially ogedengbe lead forces of ijesha and ekiti warrior. Truth hurts and it’s a bitter pill but Benin must be make to swallow it.

awwww... so in all the claimed 1000s of years on Yoruba (Anago) history its only the bandit Ogedengbe you can come up with as a hero lol..
Ogedenbge the coward that raided farm settlements in our borders and fled when informed Benin SARS (e don tay we get SARS) where coming for him.. His fellow bandits begged him they should flee.. they no wan die because everybody knows that with Benin "death is certain"..

Moneywomen17:
shut up there fool another lie made popular by u and ur fellow edo fools. The name Yoruba was first written down in the treatise written by the Songhai scholar Ahmed baba way back in the 16th century when he visited oyo empire to refer to the people of oyo. The oyo told him they were Yoruba and that’s what he wrote down not the other way around. U tell strangers who u are cuz strangers do not name u. Yoruba is only a degrading name to a edo fool like u.

You see yourself na.. Did the Hauasa label your people Yoruba/Yoruba (meaning bastards and im-beciles) after the 16th century? You just enabled me again to show you yorubas how much of a shameless people you are..
Your ancestors accepted to be stooges of the Hausas/Fulanis so deal with it "Yoruba" man.

prolog2:
And the same Lagos was part of Benin Kingdom, that is what thé portuguese maps among others showed. Once again, simple available fact. The portuguese met no awori in Lagos, they met Edos.

Universally accepted fact is Great Benin Kingdom conquered and ruled the Yorubas for about 500years..
Benin Kingdom was more advanced than any Yoruba Kingdom.
Oduduwa is an Edo prince.
Better still for us Edo is that the whole world knows this fact as witnessed and documented in early times, unlike the Yoruba history that just started yesterday.

But in this thread facts don't matter.. The Yorubas will not accept the truth about their past as a conquered and subjugated tribe.. So lets leave facts out of it and just stick to name calling and insults.. I have abundance of that for the Yorubas.

For the Yorubas please tell me, why does other Nigerian tribes see you people as a very Useless and Cowardly tribe?
Nobody fears the Yorubas at all..

Olu317:
Just imaging your ignorance? Portuguese was already in Lagos before 1475 nd the same Portuguese got to Bini 1485 . How did Bini met Portuguese before Yoruba( Aworis)? Have you not read that Aworis met potoki(portugues) before Edo me them ? Google is your Friend on this or better still Portuguese archives recorded it .Rui de Sequeira visited the area in 1472, naming the area around the city Lago de Curamo. Funny enough, Bini that have it on record that Portuguese met Bini in 1485 are now claiming Portuguese met them before Yorubas . samuk, all your lies and other Edos that twist history are busted .

So it was the Aworis you say the Portuguese met in Lagos in 1475 that told the Portuguese Lagos belongs to Benin Kingdom? because the Portuguese reported Lagos as being under the control of Mighty Benin Kingdom.

Olu317:
Kindly find no offence in what he said because these set of Edos before now have falsely lied about Yorubas ,to a large extent. Did you see one of them threatening me ? BabaRamota ,only mock them and inform. I wish you came across threads like this in the past, you would had thought their version of Odua was true but no! their version of the storyline isn't true. Some of us are from Odua lineage either through his patrilineal or matrilineal descendants.While scholars have taken time to do excavations in ILE IFE and BINi to test, which is older. And from radio carbon test, proof IFE Arts is superior to Edos. This is one out of the reason that we must correct such fallacy.

Only to the Yorubas are the Ife arts (that is if there is even any at all) superior to the Edos.. Worldwide Edo arts are more known and regarded than any art from Yoruba so why would I be bother by your rants? Dude nobody knows anything about Yoruba art..

BabaRamota1980:
You are the new ekladheran on the block.

You are descendant of the dimwit ogiso owodo. Edo has no monarchy.

Anyway, what is Igodo, give us its meaning if you are truly proyd of your history.

While you are waiting for your answer on Igodo, maybe you should take time to reminiscence on why your weak and cowardly ancestors will accept to be known as Yoruba. A degrading and demeaning name handed to you by your Hausa/Fulani masters. Any honorable man or tribe will reject to be identified by a degrading name but you Yorubas accepted it because weakness and suppression is your character.

Obalufon:
one master piece out classed your primitive art


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mtvcl1EjgM



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mtvcl1EjgM

you are new comer in the art

your ancestral art shows level of your forefathers cognitive development realism is the peak of civilization ..perfection


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZWQfj2-HNs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVSJEybCLtk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnpb8Q-7_pc

If you like promote your art works, its your duty as a Yoruba to do that.. But it doesn`t change anything.. Edo arts are more regarded and revered and renowned than Yoruba arts.. Apart from maybe archaeologists, common people don`t know and have never heard of Yoruba arts..
Edo arts are regarded to be valuable than any Yoruba arts.