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AjanleKoko: At least you guys work to minimum wage in yankee. It's not like this guy is planning to pay them some serious cash.
Working as a teller, as a graduate, is different. It's not so difficult, and at least you get to go home safe everyday.
And it's not about the money. Driving a truck can't be beans, not in Nigeria. Terrible roads, highway bandits, etc. If you have aspirations for part-time further study, you can kiss that goodbye if you are doing this type of job.

It's even better to be a shop attendant earning 20k, than to be driving a truck for 50k. It's not that much money, and it's a whole lot of hassle. Like someone pointed out, the guy is probably just trying to cut his costs and put drivers on a fixed, meager salary. I wouldn't advise anybody to do it. Easier to stay behind the counter in a fast food joint.

Why would it be better to be a shop attendant for 20k than truck driver for 50k

An Engineer who becomes a shop attendant or teller for 20k how does that contribute to his career? How owuld he be able to save up money for further studies better than a driver who earns 50K.

Business is not a charity its about cutting costs.

I cant see any real reason proferred for this Dangote scheme to be wrong.

Like I said its because we have parents and family who still take care of their graduate siblings. If you have to go make a living for yourself after college like in most countries. Do you think we would be having this discussion?

I know an Engineering grad from University of Texas Austin who worked as a bartender for almost a yr before getting a job at Texas Instrument

willon: @poster, this article is parochial, n lacks objectivity. Other issues like d hazards, security challenges n challenges on d job r not considered. Dont base ur argument on the pay package, cos even an S.S.C.E holder may not accept 100k for such a risk.
In as much as Dangote has d right to formulate internal policies n pple hv d rit to apply or not. Truck driving is herculiean n doesnt make sense for graduates.

Which Job doesnt have its risk? You know how many bankers are cooling off in EFCC because they miscounted money or someone swindled them?

Do you know how many bankers have been shot dead by armed robbers?

Is it not graduates who work on oil rigs in the middle of the ocean and exposed to kidnapping and other dangers?

Abeg talk something

Another one from the ACN govt.

Go on ACN

Kobojunkie: The oldest does not look 12 at all.

She is 14 already and veryyyy tall.

Obama once said it on TV that if they want to go for any date, The SS would run a thorough background check and officers would be with them all through the date.

The older girl resembles Barack while the younger resemble Michelle

But Mr and Mrs Obama are both over 6ft I think. So being tall is in their genes

chaircover: ^^^ you want to teach my boy how to write a pre-nuptial abi

kuro lona fun mi jare

Egg-saktly. I go teach am how to design his signature to any gold, silver or bronze digger cant forge it

Me wey teach am how to ace his GCSE can surely teach him every other thing in Life.

I thought Afam was giving us assurance that these kind of crimes dont happen in Nigeria on the "Is abroad still rosy" thread

chaircover: As most of the cabalites are here on this thread I will like to share sonme good news with you all. You are all like family to me now and some of us like Jenny have come along for about 4 or 5 years now.

My son got his GCSE results today and glory be to Almighty God he got 8 A's and 3 B's and has automatically been given a place in 6th form in the school of choice. So E-drinks and E-rice on the house everybody & may we all have cause to be happy over all our children In Jesus Name

And you forgot to give tribute to me the e-father.

Omo ti Ekun ba bi Ekun ni o ma jo. The son of a tiger always take after the tiger.

Send him to me for some time so I can teach him other things he wont be taught in school

Kobojunkie: I am confused. The guy is stuck in the Obodo Oyinbo and the girl is stuck in Nigeria. How is the marriage going to work?

Both scenarios for those that believe traditional wedding is a must (Most nigerians actually)

Scenario 1. Guy stuck abroad, Girl can travel to meet him later

Scenario 2: Both girl and guy stuck abroad and the families think No marriage can go ahead without the trad wedding

Another one from the ACN govt

I hope in no time in the future would MEND return and say they are fighting for the Niger Delta marginalisation again

bittyend: This is like a blessing in disguise for those who want Nigeria to break-up, or go back to regional government.

I'm happy for them!!

Same here. I am happy for them that they too can get oil and drill it to develop their own region

But you knw there are some ppl who are always sad whenever anything good is about to happen to others

[quote author=truelove.com]please dont be foolish. 2face ,
and those bunch of talentess and poor musicians u mentioned cant even afford a ferrari, let alone buying a private jet. you mentioned nneka, but nneka is not yoruba , she is ibo. the fact that don jazzy lived in d banj house,doesnt mean that don jazzy doesnt have enough cash to buy a house. lets talk of Lemar obika(uk r&b singer and grammy award winner). Lemar obika is an ibo man.how many yoruba musicians can u compare with lemar obika and psquare, in terms of money and fame.[/quote]Have you heard of Sade, Fela, Femi Kuti, Seal etc?

Ola one: No. There is a big difference here. Trucking is completely different!


We all know that many of the so-called sales reps are drivers with sales experience. But, they are called sales reps and they don't drive HGVs. However, trucking, the world over, isn't for graduates! It is just about pickup, dispatch and delivery.

How is trucking different? In both cases both of them are not working in their field, and experiences gathered are completely useless to their field in future

What use is an Engineering Graduate teaching JS1 Social Studies or chasing deposits all over town in the name of banking?

htajz: but at least as a girl she is vulnerable ,she least she can do is tell her best friend where she is going to and who she is meeting and why. not judging her am just trying to send a message to nairalanders , let this incidence be an eye opener for all of us that evil people are everywhere.

So assuming it was a boy how would he have escaped being drugged? or you think drugs dont affect boys/men?

[quote author=since_1914]I get your point, but what I mean is different. In this scenario having truck driving experience will never count as valid working experience for lets say an Accounting graduate who after driving Dangote's truck for 2-3years, wakes up and starts hunting for a bank job. His truck driving experience will only be termed as 'Life Experience' even in more developed climes. So it will never amount to anything professionally for the Driver. It will count if he is looking for another driving job at lets say, Golden Penny Flours or BUA Group.[/quote]So if an Engineer who spends 2yrs teaching in a private school or as a teller decides to look for an engineering job wont the same apply?

Ola one: What is demeaning about this if it is the going rate in the industry. After all, they are all bankers and you can easily embellish your CV to airbrush the teller part out.

So what makes drivers demeaning and not Tellers especially for Graduates. The driver too can embelish his CV to reflect Logistics manager. Dont you think. By the time I design a Driver resume for you, You sef would be confused if he was a driver or a World bank MD

-Competence

Offer 2+ years of experience transporting product and hazardous materials for various industries. (A safety professional?)

Ensuring quick and efficient delivery to meet customer expectation (Meaning a good messenger)

Performed a ruotine inventory of Goods in Transit to guide against pilferage (Meaning I am checking the goods as security man)

Complied with Ministry of Transportation and Industry guidelines to ensure safety of Goods and human life (Meaning kept to speed limit)

Ability to perform basic mechanical work on Mack CW 2003-2008 Model which includes Oil change, ... ..etc (Meaning I can also do mechanic work)

Personable and professional with a strong customer service orientation and problem solving skills. (Customer service skills)

Accustomed to working under harsh weather conditions; easily lift and carry more than 50 pounds. (Meaning I chop belefull and strong)

Ola one: The examples you mentioned are self-informed. Those vacancies did not ask for graduates. It is now left to these jobless graduates to think holistically and take a step forward.

Many in Nigeria as well hide their degrees and apply for jobs like you stated in your examples. Mr Dangote didn't have to do this. Some graduates wouldn't mind, anyway. An SSCE is okay enough for this job.

But what difference does it really make if he stated BSc or SSCE? He wanted ppl who are intelligent. The work of the drivers with him might involve filling log books, Keeping track of inventory they are carrying etc. that was why he needed people above SSCE level. The average Nigerian SSCE holder is nothing to write home about. I have taught SSCE students who couldnt write their names properly.

Almost every nigerian Youth including those Agberos, Area Boys etc finished SSCE but they can not give the level of delivery Dangote requires

If you are a man and you have family to feed I am sure the last thing on your mind would be the dignity of the Job.

I have a friend whose elder brother a manager at oceanic Bank got laid off. This was a very big boy who used to go for vacation in London and Dubai regularly. They guy now teaches in a private school around Lekki for 50K

Ola one: You have only stated financially demeaning jobs. Even banks have stopped employing graduates for these roles.

Dangote's offer is demeaning from all angles - financially and career-wise. It is nothing but a cul-de-sac for any discerning graduates out there.

I dont know if banks have stopped that practice now, but previously it was only UBA and GTB who employed anything less than a graduate into any role in the bank. So dont you think a Mechanical Engineer working as a teller for 50-60k a month is in a financial and career alley?

With the tsunami in the banking sector, Do you know how many Graduates are teachers in private schools for 10-25k a month? Is that a career and financial breakthrough?

You only think about cul de sac because you have parents and families to pick your bills. In the West immediately after College or High School your parents kick you out and you need to find your footing. So at the end of the month when bills need to be paid. I am sure your landlord doesnt know the colour of money that came from Dangote driver

Ola one: I think you have to state categorically that there is a conscious effort to employ science/engineering graduates because most are quite good in numerate subjects. It is a common practice among investment banks.

So that throws the argument of field of study away.

One of my uncles a Medical Doctor works in a top Investment bank in Nigeria.

Making ends meet is the first thing in Life. Its because most Nigerian graduates have families to support them thats why they think a kind of job is beneath them.

I knw one African American girl who after college worked as a waitress at Dave n Busters. Later she switched jobs to work as a Teller in a bank. I knw another one who 3yrs after her degree works as a barber before she went back to grad sch.

Because they dont have families who would pay their rents, or feed them for free after College

Ola one: Well, you are right. It is not compulsory to take it up.
However, I am sure you know that Bill Gates example is different. BSC for trucking work. C'mon, guys. It is demeaning. Would you have considered it?

To work in most Nigerian Banks you need a BSc right? As at when I was in the job markets some Banks were paying 50-70k per month

They employ you to work as tellers. I can tell you the responsibility of a teller in a Bank can be performed by Someone with a JS3 certificate

How come we are not saying that is demeaning.

Banks would employ pretty Graduate girls and tell them to chase deposits around (most of the time using their body) is that not demeaning?

When I finished NYSC before I got a Job 3months later, i was trekking to teach in UME and GCE center guess for how much? 100Naira per hour

Tell me something about demeaning!!!

[quote author=since_1914]Secondly, the moment you sit in the driver's seat of Dangote's truck, that is the day you wave your university qualifications goodbye. Because in a country like ours, life experiences doesn't count for anything in the eyes of recruiters and employers of labour. As far as they are concern, you were not employable in your field thats why you took up a driving job. It were elsewhere, such experience would count in your favour but here it will count against you.[/quote]Do you think the field of study still count in many cases? Go to banks and consulting companies the majority of people there are Engineering and Science grads.

Go to Wall street, its also filled with Engineers and Scientists.

The MD of a Bank in Nigeria is a petroleum Engineer.

The first thing in life is making ends meet. After that you can start talking about field.

i graduated as a Chemical Engineer and I can tell you less than 20% of my graduating class work as Chemical Engineers right now almost a decade after graduation

Ola one: To me, it's just a way of saying "Yeah . . look at me . . I am not even a graduate . . . And I am a bloody billionaire. Well, the so-called graduates are the one driving my trucks. Bloody clueless boys and girls with paper certificates that certify them as clueless fucktards. I am so fuc.king blessed."

Bleep yeah. Isnt it the same thing every billionaire does? Bill gates gather all the smart geeks from Harvard and MIT and lump them into one room and they make millions for me Bill fuking Gates a murderfreaking Drop out.

Like its said Most of top 5-10 richest men in thw world are not even college grads and they would tell you to work for them you need a 4.0 GPA.

I heard Elumelu had a 3rd class but he might tell you to work for him you need a 2-1.

Thats the way the world is. If I am rich I can tell you that I need an Ivy League MBA to be my cleaner for $200,000 ayr If you dont like it skip over

nateevs: Granular analysis by Criz but as you accept, his overall contribution made up for the chances he blew.
For that last goal, 8 out of 10 players with that pace will not pass the ball.

One has got to love him for that single move. Fast looking like £32m well spent.

Surely Hazard has repaid in 2 games what Torres is struggling with in 2 seasons

Hazard 5 assists in 2 games

latest: Your being a bigot starts and ends on NL, outside here what can you do or have you forgotten your other name Mr Coward?

My name isnt Ojuku

AjanleKoko: Referee just allow am. He has suffered enough in the Blue Jersey

Ajanlekoko,

wetin be our team name?

diggz: See d tool celebratin free Goal See Ft wastin anoda scorin opportunity!! Smh

Shekpe keeper dey worry oooooo

coogar: and the flag stayed down? you are a disgrace!!!

Are you blind?

82nd min Mata Cuts back Torres fumbles the first touch again

Torres scores a tap in from an offside position