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prem love: twenty thounsand na money

Better than nothing until they find something to do.

Afam4eva: Pay them for what? He should get them engaged and pay them rather than dash them money for no work done.

Would you rather they become criminals? Whatever they are going to be paid will not really sustain them so the desire to secure a job or become an entrepreneur will always be there. The problem will be how to know when a beneficiary secures a job to disqualify him from further payment.

gerald09: Dude dats just crap! Dis is a democratic government and before u start treating us as "bloody civilians" the civilians still rule dam states, y are u trying to justify his st*upidity if he didn't want to give information he wuld have just shup d f*uck up, or u give only informations dat make sense, they found 600million in an account of an individual n they do not report it to EFCC which is dere jurisdiction in d first place even with d SOE the president also said civilians are still in charge (dis is b4 u start running ur mouth). The military is doin a great job no doubt giving the low information they get ( I get to sleep well @ night) but they shuld be careful b4 they start becoming the same evil they fighting.

So in giving you this 'privileged' info, you also expected him to tell you they reported to EFCC and since it was not stated, you now query why? Is he the Chief of Defence and if yes, is he really answerable to you or to the Commander-in-Chief. Democracy does not say no more protocols and military discipline overturned.

ayox2003: First off, the SoE is a welcome development. Although some people believe its long overdue but I prefer half a bread than none. Even the US didn't expect a SoE, that's why John Kerry said that the troops should be very careful with human lives...like they really care. Huh?

Second, we say our troops are fighting the dreaded Boko Harm, yet their sponsors - those Borno Senators caught red-handed - Senator Zanna and Ali are still walking free around town like a philanthropist. If the IG is soft of them probably because he's also from the north, let the President order the Head of the Military to interrogate them. I can bet that after spending just 4hours in the military custody, they'd confess and name other sponsors of the group. This orange seller might just be a channel and not a backbone sponsor. Once access to money is blocked, gross weakness would affect their logistics. But the president turned a blind eye on those senators because they were not linked to Buhari. Politics!

Third, nigerians are just too emotional about national issues. Instead of taking time to think about the presidents declaration, all we see here is "Kill them all", "those northerns should be destroyed", "they should be gunned down" and other unnecessary statements. We need to quit swimming in the pool of emotion. Let's towel-dry our instant approval and reactions, then sit on the couch of logical reasoning. When someone makes a statement about our country, either good or bad, it doesn't hurt if we take sometime to think about what's been said instead of swallowing it all up hook, line and sinker. The declaration of SoE should not be an end but a means. A means to create the platform for a sovereign national conference. While the military has risen up to save the nation by guns, the civilians (u and I) must also use dialogue as a weapon. We must also press it on GEJ that he calls for a national conference to save the nation by dialogue. Let the northern PDPs come and make their grievances known and each tribe's representative should speak the truth about the state of the nation. Possibly all those northern PDP elites who have been silent about BH would talk, forgive and re-structure their party.

Fourth, those who supports PDP/GEJ should call for federalism. If truly u want crises to stop, then tell the president that he has the power to change things for good in PDP. If he could use such power to re-structure the party to his taste, biting very hard on Amaechi's butts, then such power should be channelled to add federalism into PDP's ideology. That each state be responsible for its development, revenue and security. Waiting for monthly allocation makes these governors less concerned because whether or not they perform, money comes from Abuja. Buhari's CPC stands on federalism. It would solve these problems and a Lagosian would be less concerned about what happens in Borno.

Fifth, the problem of BH was caused by failure of northern military leaders. They spent years in power, yet they didn't ensure that their folks be educated. Unemployment, poverty and illiteracy is very rife in the north. We should learn from this: ethnicity doesn't guarantee competence. Don't choose leaders because they are from ur tribe. Vote for a candidate that has a proven track record. The north is unstable today, who knows what would be of the south tomorrow if we don't have a good leader. Aap!


Frawzey

With all this^^^^^^you defended and finally campaigned for Buhari; nothing said about the Post. Shocking!

jamst: this igbo(biafra) president aka GEJ is systematically taking revenge for wat happened in the 60's...POLITICAL VENDETTA AGAINST THE NORTH...we know! we know!! but "two wrongs dont make a right"

Waoh, you are so so sick and majority of them think this way. Some satanic influence messing with their mind and they reason upside down! Unbelievable! Explain all we can, they never seem to get it. This is not to insult you but I am so worried about the lies and so much darkness. The devil is truly wicked. What a waste of time and space.

Akbee: Aint innocent souls amomg the victims of the air raid?THEY R USING A BULLDOZER TO FIND A MISSING SPOON.

Oh yeah, too much trouble just for a mere missing spoon. You should have volunteered to find the missing spoon all these years and save it from being crushed with a bulldozer.

Hon. Kontigi:
If they don't attack your post how do we know the jobless insult peddlers.

You are always on the dark side. Upgrade yourself.

shymexx: This ish is turning into a propaganda war reminiscent of George Bush's "Mission Accomplished" speech that was displayed on the aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln in Iraq, in 2003. But we all know what happened after that.

The speech said:
"In the Battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed." - George Bush.


PS: don't attack my post - I'm just keeping it real.

Oh yes, after that your brain began to wind down.

Mr knowitall.:
[b]
Let me tell you the true story of Jesus bro...Jesus and his crew were a fugitive of the law. Jesus was on the run because he was wanted for the crime of blasphemy(he called himself the son of God) which was a big big no no at the time. He was going around toting himself as the messiah..but the Jews coudlnt believe him because the torahs says before the true mesiah comes...God will show them some signs and certain events will take place...but those things didnt happen so he was lying....in an effort to escape prosecution...one of his guys turned him in....Jesus was tried in the court of law at the time and sentenced to death...like so many other people were.....the story of Jesus is nothing unusual he was a criminal who was caught, tried, and sentenced..case closed... go to Israel..they will tell you that Jesus was nothing more than a petty criminal.....if Adeboye dies today..some of his followers might say they saw him walking on the street after 5 days....which is expected from a devoted follower....[/b]

Much love because I think you are a human being like me but messed up by some satanic influence. You are sure used to covens, cultism, blood offering, mysticism, what have you. You have tasted them all. The above is their story. I wont condemn you for what you do not know but when you become trash for what you know, you WILL look for that which you do not know. Some DEEP talk, I pray you find it.

I was right when I said you are neither here nor there because you failed to answer the question asked; you chose to judge Christians instead far from the question. I still love you with the love of God. What we believe is our choice, no one is forced.

The question is "What makes you a Christian?" NOT "Are there still Christians on earth?" Some people are just not able to read and understand questions or is it a case of "I am neither here nor there" for the 1st question, therefore skip it create the 2nd question in our mind and "Judge" these Christians....This looks like Mr.Knowitall and co. LOL

Mr knowitall.:
IM TELLING YOU...IF THERE IS REALLY A HEAVEN....ONLY A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE WILL GO..AND THESE ARE PEOPLE FROM LONG AGO....EVERY SINGLE CHRISTIAN ALIVE TODAY IS JUST PRETENDING...ESPECIALLY ON SUNDAYS....

Mr. knowitall, don't be deceived, only God knows it all. Did God tell you what you just said? Are you judging from a revelation you received from God or from appearance, what you see or hear? Everyone is free to speak but ONLY God can refute, discredit, judge, agree or disagree. Definitely NOT you, NOT anyone in this whole wide world, except by God's revelation.

The Jews in Israel are still waiting for Jesus the Messiah to come because they have a picture of how the Messiah should look, yet Jesus Christ (the expected Messiah) came and they mistakenly killed Him. Appearance deceived the Jews. Rotten apples all over but there are still some good apples. Many 419ners in 9ja, are you one? Think again.

Listening, Obeying and Trusting God, with His help, at all times in a close relationship.

[quote author=Birniwa]For the record, I don't hate Christianity, I only hate the dumbest creatures on earth (Christians) like this very OP. With all that is said in Col. 4:5-6 regarding conducting yourself in a wise manner towards the non-Christians, I begin to ponder if this Nigerian Christians are really practising the real Christianity.


Are you in any way saying that Christians are expected to pamper non-Christians whether they are boko haram killers or blood letting muslims? The emphasis here is on KILLING = EVIL. Birniwa, your understanding of that passage is twisted to suit your religious/tribal sentiment.

Every human being is wired to hate and stand against evil; that is why God gave us conscience. Unfortunately, most of the time, we disregard the promptings of our conscience and choose to do evil and sear the conscience PERIOD.

franchizy: The End will justify the means. Let's see if the SOE wil solve the problem. I bet you dat Boko Haram will not surrender except with dialogue

I have repeatedly told you to stop hiding yourself in nairaland, come out boldly, face the JTF and repeat yourself then offer to lead them to your hideout; they certainly know how to dialogue with you. It is clear you want to surrender and you are applying your village sense to achieve that.

killuminati: sure there will always be casualties but we don't expect more of innocent. It's clear that some Ibo army may go about shooting sporadically at anyone they set they eyes on out of hate.. So they need to be watched closely, it's all political!

The military is far more disciplined than you, your mind and your thoughts all ravaged by fear. Stop riding cars so you don't die from motor accident, etc. BTW, did BH kill out of love?

BAMILASSA: THE GOVERNMENT TACTICS AND STRATEGIES ARE ALREADY KNOWN;

1. CONVERTING THE CURRENT SECTARIAN UPROAR TO A FULL BLOWN CIVIL WAR, WITH THE WAR FRONT AT THE NORTH DOORS, KILLING BOTH OUR YOUTH AND COMMUNITY LEADERS E.G EMIRS, TOP POLITICIANS AND UNIFORM MEN OF NORTHERN ORIGIN, IN A BID TO TOTALLY WEAKEN THE REGION SO AS TO EITHER CONTINUE THEIR DEVILISH RULE AGENDA OR SIMPLY DIVIDE THE COUNTRY.

THIS IS A VERY GOOD STRATEGY INDEED,(courtesy Devil MENTOR) IT WORKS IN MANY INSTANCES E.G SYRIA. BUT ALAS, IT WOULD NEVER WORK IN NIGERIA.
B/COS;
THE BRAVE NORTHERN YOUTH IN THE MILITARY WOULD NEVER TOLERATE OR ALLOW THIS.
THE NORTH HAS GOOD FRIENDS( ALIAS) THAT WOULD STAND BY NORTH FOR SURE.
AS USUAL THE YORUBAS WOULD ISOLATE THEMSELVES, LEAVING, ND/IGBOS/MIDDLE BELTANS TO FACE NORTH IF THE PLAN BACKFIRES !

THE STRATEGY FURTHER ENTAILS WIDER S.O.E TO INFLICT MORE DAMAGES, MORE CASUALTIES , BLACKMAIL, ASSASSINATION AND MORE....

ALTHOUGH, THE TACTICS WAS ON FINAL STAGES, NIGERIA IS GODS OWN AS SAID BY MANY WOULD ONCE AGAIN SURVIVE THIS PLOT, THIS AGENDA IS BOUND TO FAIL, B/COS OF ILL EXECUTION OF THE DETAILS ENSHRINED.

LONG LIVE NORTH, LONG LIVE NIGERIA, LONG LIVE FREE AFRICA!

Senseless comment straight from your asshole. You are playing the victim now; all your evil calculations will still consume you, do you not understand? God is in full control, whichever way you look at it, you will be consumed. Begin to think positive, think LOVE for others to attract the goodness of God or this judgment will put you where you rightly belong.

shymexx: [s][/s]

Not in the mood to argue with villagers and hicks today.

Then get off the villagers' boat. At least you knew there are villagers and hicks yet you came on board to show your complex issues. Go learn how to be humble if you must meddle with villagers in their world.

shymexx: I know I'm a little bit eccentric and unorthodox compared to the way most of you do things on here. But they can't just go around maiming innocent civilians with crude military tactics and expect an unwinnable war to become winnable. The more civilians you kill, the higher the willing tools for recruitment into BH army.

The real BH members are already ghost, at the moment - chilling somewhere in the Sahara. You lot are just killing civilians.

Using surface to air guns and missiles is just barbaric and savagely around civilian population. Most of you are smiling now, but don't cry when these civilians start suicide-bombing your homes in Southern Nigeria, when the "blowback" kicks off.

If you know this much about this war and are bold, why hide under this pseudo name and write like a good-for-nothing all knowing, all seeing and all understanding caward.

Suntzung: MAIN AIMS OF GEJ SOE ARE:

1. ENSURE CONTINUITY OF THE CONFLICT TO 2014/15 FOR HIM TO ACHIEVE HIS DIRTY AMBITIONS
2. ENSURE CONTINUITY OF THE CRISES TO GET AN AVENUE TO DESTROY ALL THE NORTH, THRU. MASS KILLINGS, ECONOMIC SABOTAGE,AND ISOLATION.
3. GRADUALLY, ACHIEVING MILITARY DOMINANCE BY THE IGBOS AND MIDDLE BELTANS, NOW FREE TO USE THE MILITARY AS A TOOL FOR BOTH POLITICAL AND CRIMINAL AGENDAS OF DIVIDING THE COUNTRY, AND AVENGING THE SO CALLED SS/ND MILITANTS SILENCING DURING THE OBJ/YAR ADUA ERAS.

TWO (2) GOOD THING AS WELL, MAY BE THE OUTCOME OF THIS SOE BLUNDER VIZ;

1. MILITARY TAKE OVER
2. POLITICAL SUICIDE BY GEJ GROUP, TRANSLATING TO CHEAP APC TAKE OVER

ANY OF THE ABOVE, WOULD MEAN THE BATTLE TAKEN BACK TO ND/BIAFRA DOOR STEPS!

LONG LIVE NIGERIA.

You keep repeating this rubbish on every thread. Are you this dense?

thoniann: Its saddening to see Nigerians commend a gesture that is a responsibility of a man massively voted to power. GEJ is saddled with the responsibity of protecting the people both from internal and external aggression. For me he has done nothing new or extraordinary to deserve my commendation since he became president. He's not won the won against terror either by dialogue or force. I shouldn't teach him what to do. He said he knew how to tackle these problems during campaigns and I believed him.
He promised to fix power, 2 years on and I still buy fuel for my generator. No improvement.
The roads in my state are still bad, worse than before and he cant caution his governor(s) to sit up.
No corrupt official/politician has been imprisoned for embezzlement,mal-administration and malvesation of public money, even though we hear, see and read about these scandals daily.
WHAT ARE YOU ALL COMMENDING HIM FOR?
It's your right to enjoy the good deeds of democracy. He's not doing any of us a favour by fighting Boko Boys. Its his job and he has to do it. In the words of Fela, "Animal can't dash me human rights."

Criticism gave rise to commendation. Chew it.

almajiri101: If jonathan and his blind followers think they can wipe off boko haram then think again.

The battle line has been drawn, let's wait and see who surrenders.

If GEJ and the soldiers cannot wipe off boko haram then boko haram will wipe itself off by itself including all its supporters....+ you and your entire family behind the battle line that you drew yourself.

youngmoneypi: I use my bro as a point of contact, my God guide protect and bless them all on this noble quest, amen

I use him also as a point of contact. May the good Lord guide them, protect them and give them good success in their quest to protect Nigerians. I cover them with the Blood of Jesus. God please put your fear in those evil ones and take away from them that power of resistance as You secure victory through these gallant soldiers for Nigeria. For this God, all glory and honour we give You.

aurenflani: You didn't include innocent civilians, some of who are most definitely your own people, not the Hausa-Fulanis you obviously don't like.

Oh God, not this nitwit again. You reap what you sow.

Eko Ile: Please keep quiet and go away..

Again, I repeat, you so lack magnanimity. You are the kind of leader that surrounds himself with sycophants. You think opposition means condemn and criticize anything and everything proffered by a perceived enemy. You are on a suicide train, get off in good time. I oppose but not stupidly and wise enough to commend my enemy's good gestures. Keep opposition clean; you are simply playing dirty, attracting only flies to yourself. Emi o dake, mi o de lo, kilo fe se fun mi? Omo'dun melo nie? On wu iwa bi omode.

Suntzung: MAIN AIMS OF GEJ SOE ARE:

1. ENSURE CONTINUITY OF THE CONFLICT TO 2014/15 FOR HIM TO ACHIEVE HIS DIRTY AMBITIONS
2. ENSURE CONTINUITY OF THE CRISES TO GET AN AVENUE TO DESTROY ALL THE NORTH, THRU. MASS KILLINGS, ECONOMIC SABOTAGE,AND ISOLATION.
3. GRADUALLY, ACHIEVING MILITARY DOMINANCE BY THE IGBOS AND MIDDLE BELTANS, NOW FREE TO USE THE MILITARY AS A TOOL FOR BOTH POLITICAL AND CRIMINAL AGENDAS OF DIVIDING THE COUNTRY, AND AVENGING THE SO CALLED SS/ND MILITANTS SILENCING DURING THE OBJ/YAR ADUA ERAS.

TWO (2) GOOD THING AS WELL, MAY BE THE OUTCOME OF THIS SOE BLUNDER VIZ;

1. MILITARY TAKE OVER
2. POLITICAL SUICIDE BY GEJ GROUP, TRANSLATING TO CHEAP APC TAKE OVER

ANY OF THE ABOVE, WOULD MEAN THE BATTLE TAKEN BACK TO ND/BIAFRA DOOR STEPS!

LONG LIVE NIGERIA.

I bow my head in total disgust. Your political calculation has so reduced you to a man drowning in pessimism. Those are your fears for SOE? What would you do if you were GEJ? Your political chess board above has just shown me that Nigerian politicians NEVER think about the people but themselves and how to either remain in power or get hold of it. Now I am convinced that only God can liberate Nigerians from politicians with their selfish political calculations. Note also that this boko haram thing is a monster created by northern politicians for their selfish purpose. God will use YOU to destroy YOU, boko haram, selfish politicians. Innocent Nigerians must be set free from all these political manoeuvrings, calculations, scheming, etc. Whatever has a beginning has an end. This is the right place to say LONG LIVE NIGERIA!

Pedagogue: [/color]

If what is going on in d south south or south east is what u call progress, my brother , lets continue to retrogress!!!
Btw,How come you find it difficult to leave our retrogressive states?


@Topic, Mimiko is very much entitled to his views and what he had said is in line with the reasoning of most Yoruba's...we all want boko haram to be crushed...Infact, many reject ACN's stance on the state of emergency!!!

That's the unique thing about Yoruba's ,we agree and disagree! But if u mistake the general support for GEJ on state of emergency 4 'support for his presidency' , YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN!

GEJ hates Yoruba's, Yoruba's hate him more! QED

How old are you?

Eko Ile: The fact that you don't like what I posted doesn't mean it wasn't constructive.

I'm a Nigerian and I'll voice my views and opinion the way I want, not according to you or to make you feel good.


It is also not my job to offer constructive advise or any advise to your president, the president hired a lot of advisers and ministers to do that and you are paying them to do that job, not me. Unfortunately, they are all clueless and incompetent just like your president...

You have the responsibility to post the whole truth not half truth like you just did just to give a dog a bad name. I repeat, opposition must be magnanimous not suicidal. Criticize when you need to and commend when necessary. It is suicidal to oppose both good and bad!

I am free to speak on behalf of Fashola. This man I know in his quiet conner knows GEJ did the right thing but you know this party things. My brother, it is well. You are a man with a good conscience. Stay well. You will be free one day. Politics in 9ja is like being in a coven. Thumbs up for El Rufai who does not see anything wrong with SOE. Opposition can and should be magnanimous.

Mr. Ndoma-Egba: "There is nowhere in the constitution the President is required to publish the gazette within a specific time," he said; before asserting that "For now, no provision of the constitution has been breached and there is no constitutional crisis."


The above is the comment made by the deputy senate president. Eko Ile, Payless and Neo-XVI, you left me wondering what your real problems are. The topic is still State of Emergency declared by GEJ but you are busy talking about removing PDP, electing Buhari and opposition. Before I proceed, note that I am one of those who criticized GEJ and still do but as far as dealing with Boko Haram is concerned GEJ has taken the right step. If your bad son suddenly surprises you with one good act, do you condemn that one good act? I guess you are core politicians who have refused to grow to know that opposition does not mean condemn anything and everything proffered by the opposition party. In fact, your integrity is boosted when you commend a worthy course taken by your opponent to help the people. Who do you hope to attract when you are not even feeling the pulse of the people you are wooing? I am beginning to think that you are more interested in winning the hearts of the north, nothing wrong with that, but they are for now evil and not sincere and need a clean up.

Did you listen to El Rufai on Channels commending GEJ for his action? Now that's magnanimity. He is still an opponent but with that edge. This kind of opposition is attractive not yours.

Nezan: When one read all those hate-filled posts on nairaland, you begin to wonder if our youths ever read their history books.

It was this same attitude that made issues difficult for Aguiyi-Ironsi's regime.

You can support Mr. President for declaring SoE in the north, but insulting all northerners will be a minus for Mr. President, his supporters in the north will begin to have a rethink and God help us if the issues of yesteryears are revisited.

My few cents.

NORTHERN ELDERS, are they not speaking for the north, or has anyone denied them? Man, go somewhere else and play your politics. We are not into politics here. This is the time to tell ourselves the hard truth that will set us all free. Do you realise that majority that air their views cut across many parties, including those who do not even belong to any party. This matter is beyond party and politics. This is why politicians never do well when elected simply because they want to please supporters at the expense of the general populace. Do the right thing, your integrity and good judgement will make way for you. Should the north continue with evil so that GEJ retains his supporters? Selfish move!

Misterc: I dont think Тнє presidency taking up guns against the North is an option here...
Тнє Police Accademy ---------- North
Тнє Military School ---------- North
Тнє Defence Accademy ------- North
Тнє Military Ammunition Supplies Depo---- North
Maritime HQ ------------------ North
Military Tactical Commands ---------- North
Aerospace Unit --------------- North
Military Training Bases ------ North
CBN A̷̷̴̐͠πD even тнє Federal Territory -- North

Sº°˚˚°ºoo what's тнє faith of тнє West, South A̷̷̴̐͠πD тнє Easterns respectively?
Тнє truth remains "we are dominated by the northerners and only SAFE dialogue can make peace to rain in our Nation Nigeria if we still believe in oneness...

The thoughts of a man consumed by fear. Fear God who knows how to war against you with or without position or guns. He will use YOU to destroy YOU. It is happening but we are not seeing it.

[quote author=adamu50]It is now i understand that the government of Goodluck Ebele Jonathan is not a sincere one.How on earth can he fight those he called ghosts.it is also clear that NEF are now reaping what they planted, particularly Northern Governors in PDP for supporting him to become the President(going in to secret one term bid).[/quote


GEJ has regained his senses or did you pray for him to be locked in your coven forever? God has set him free and you are all crying foul. JTF was sent to NDelta and your Northern Elders commended that decision. What is different now? Is North more superior. My friend, go think of how to debrief yourselves from the deadly notions some demons have planted in you. They are destroying you and your land.