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Ariani:You've just betrayed Ignorance on the philosophy behing the creation of the SS. If Edo is not a SS state because it is, according to you, more of a Yoruba state, then it leads to four deductions as follows; 1. That the Igbankes you claim brotherhood with in Edo State are now Yorubas, therefore your brotherhood with them makes you Igbos yourselves automatically Yorubas. Whoever claims brotherhood with a people he implicitly labels as Yorubas is a Yoruba himself. 2. The Delta state you claim is part of SS (to the exclusion of Edo) is actually a state inhabited by Bini migrants (Urhobo, Isoko, Itsekiri in part, etc) who don't deny their Bini ancestry. With that fact viewed against your logic, Delta state too is a SW/Yoruba State and not a SS state. 3. That the fact that some tribes in Bayelsa state (like Ogbia) trace their origin back to Benin means Rivers and Bayelsa too are Edo and not SS states. 4. The fact that some tribes in Northern Cross River have languages mutually intelligible with some Edo-North tribes also means Cross River is Edo and therefore a Yoruba State based on your logic. Then which state is left in the SS that fits correctly into your logic? May be only Bayelsa and Akwa Ibom. Even Bayelsa by, virtue of its indigenous Muslems, is either SW or North according to your logic. So only Akwa Ibom is the state left in your own version of SS. You also said Edo is not culturally or geographically SS? Are Nigeria regions purely geographical/ cardinal demarcations or rather geopolitical mappings? Are they called Geographical Regions or Geopolitical Regions? If the former is the case, then what is the purely geographical relationship between the Itsekiri part of Delta and the Ogoja part of Cross River both of which you agree are in the SS? What is the geographical or cultural relationship between Fulanis in Illorin and idomas in Benue thousands of miles away from Illorin to qualify them both into NC if it is purely Geographical/cultural? What are the Igbos in Benue doing in the North Central if our regions are based on cultural mappings? What are the Ijaws of Ondo doing in the SW if it is by cultural mapping? There are native Itsekiris and Ijaws in Edo State, so by your funny logic those Itsekiris and Ijaws of Edo state are not SS but Yorubas while the Itsekiris and Ijaws of Delta State are not Yorubas but SS. If Edo State has no riverine culture then how come Ijaws and Itsekiris (the known riverine tribes) occupy parts of Edo State? Are you using "geographical" and "geopolitical" interchangeably? The SS is a region created for Southerners who are neither Yorubas nor Igbos irrespective of their cultures or geographical space relationships. . On your use of Islam as a criterion for SS identity I want to remind you that there is a huge and fast growing population of indegenous Igbo Muslims in the Afikpo LGAs of Ebonyi, and others in Enugu. In fact there is an Igbo Sheik in Afikpo town. Does it therefore mean that Ebonyi and Enugu are not really SE states? This brings us to another funny stereotype from you Igbos which is is the attitude of terming others as Arewanistan as an indication of disdain for Islam, and yet you have kept on working to see that your proposed Biafra will include the SS states and Niger Delta for which you therefore have been pasting online photographs in which the Niger Delta Volunteer Force leader, Asari Dokubo, is seen in association with Nnamdi Kanu and other Biafra agitation leaders, yet you comfortably forget that the Asari Dokubu whom you so wish to share Biafra identity with is Strong Muslem who believes solidly in the very Islam you so despise. If you sincerely so despise Islam then why seek partnership with Dokubo, a Muslim well grounded and founded on Islamic faith, in your thrust to form your purportedly "Christian" Republic of Biafra? It is either you people are fooling Dokubo and the Niger Delta and SS generally, or that Dokubo is fooling you people. Someone just must be fooling the other or himself in this obvious contradiction. It definitely can't be a genuine partnership. Such a "fully" Christian Biafra Republic with Asari Dokubo in it as a high ranking stake holder alongside other indigenous Bayelsa moslems is doomed to implode catastrophically and eventually lead to war. I foresee such a war again within the Biafra that includes Bayelsa because Asari is not a man who would tolerate religious marginalizion from Igbos. Meanwhile let the self deception and delusion continue on your part. However, I know that the Mujaheed Asari Dokubo I know is aware deep down in his mind that he is just fooling Igbos as a SS Republic is what guarantess his religious freedom based on the fact that a SS republic is full of Christians but not Christian bigots like igbos, and that the SS houses more indigenous muslems across at least four of its states, and that the states involved do not deny it the way Igbos deny having indigenous Muslim populations despite really having them in Ebonyi and Enugu. Or you think Asari Dokubu is a kid not to have seen it clearly that biafra Republic will be the first country in world history where Christians will persecute others for holding divergent faiths from the mainstream Christianity? Asari Dokubo is only using you people as a tool to craftily press for true federalism which the SS only wants. Asari and most Bayelsa muslems prefer to stay back in Nigeria and secure their religious freedom than go into Biafra and lose it. Religious freedom is more important than economic freedom. No sane person surrenders religious freedom for economic interest. Let the FG grant true federalism/resource control today and see whether Asari will ever again touch Biafra agitators with a 100m long pole. I have given you this exposition free of charge because I don't want you to deceive yourselves into another secession brotherhood war only for you to later brand Asari Dokubo a traitor by the time he really demonstrates what he means. They say "Once beaten, twice shy". But I'm afraid you will be twice beaten. I have taken all this pain out of genuine concern for another 3 million lives on the line now due to your assumption that Dokubo is sincerely behind you. It is better you face reality, concentrate on your 5 Igbo states and leave the SS alone so as not to risk another "betrayal" as no SS state will open its two eyes and join a Republic where self-acclaimed Jews and Christians will surely persecute other religions' adherents. |
honourhim:Keep deceiving yourself. You did not read my post but you knew the content which enable you respond appropriately. What an interesting irony! If you really feel I should keep off then you should have blamed your brother Ariani for ever mentioning my name here as that was what brought me in. Well, under normal circumstances I don't even comment on posts concerning Igbos as a tribe because I know it is almost impossible for them not to use Yoruba blackmail when they meet superior arguements. However I was forced to come into this because your brother Ariani mentioned me specifically. Igbos have from time immemorial hated Edos for no justifiable reason. Our own aversion for Igbos started in 1967 for the obvious reason of the Midwest invasion which remains justifiable. But same can't be said of Igbos' hatred for us. It is jut out of envy. Simple! I have no business with Igbos at all but unfortunately they litter Benin and most Edo towns. I don't know anyone in my hometown living in Igbo land. We know who needs who more. |
SonOfEl:I have already told you that you are not philosophically oriented. The second dimension to the rejection of Ironsi's unification decree was the belief that once he unified the treasury, the resulting hugeness of the purse would easily tempt he himself and his future successors to steal from it and therefore they will come to find it difficult to reverse the trend. Once you allow a person to enjoy the fruits of stealing he will never be able to revert to normal life again. The validity of the arguement lies in the fact that even Jonathan, a man from the region hardest hit by the consequences of Ironsi's useless decision, could not reverse it because he himself was so overwhelmed by the hugeness of the centralized purse that he forgot entirely the need for him to work actively towards decentralizing it but started helping himself from it for his campaigns. It is like someone who looked for a job of N10,000 for 15 years and could not get it and "luck" came his way making him go into robbery where he now makes N250,000 a week. Now, he is used to fat pay from stealing and at that point you now offer him the N10,000 job he once looked for. How do you expect him to accept it? Ironsi's action made everyone abandon agriculture for oil. How will one person whose region has abandoned his farms for oil for the past 50 years get to power and suddenly reverse Ironsi's decision knowing fully well that his own region has nothing to fall back on immediately? Can you yourself try that as an igbo man on getting to power? You will just hurt your people. Only a very stubborn SS or Lagos State person can get to power, do that and his own home state will not be affected by the deadly shock it will have on the economy for at least the first ten years. Just a fall in crude oil prices in the int'l market and most states are bleeding profusely already. Only an SNC will bring a genuine reversal of Ironsi's blunder. And that does not rest on one single ruler. It has to first be agreed on and then very gradually implemented until this ugly unitary system is phased out. Get it now? |
Ariani:The earlier you realize that I can't claim who I am not just because I want to fit into your stereotype of how a Yoruba or a SS person should speak, the better for you. I am from Edo State and if you don't know, know it today that an Edo man's opinion on issues is least influenced by tribal sentiments. I am a proud Edo person because Edo kingdom pre-existed Nigeria and was already being referenced all over the world before Nigeria was ever dreamt of. Edo historic artworks remain the most sophisticated in pre-colonial Africa. A typical Edo person believes first in his state before believing in Nigeria if he does at all. But I must be very blunt with you that we have an unquenchable aversion to Igbos because we continue to see Ojukwu's invasion of Benin as an act of foreign aggression and territorial violation. Moreover why should I defend igbos unduly when I know they invaded my hometown and committed havoc against my people in 1967? I know my aversion for your heros Zik and Ironsi is what makes you believe I am Yoruba, and I have kept on asking you why you think all SS (particularly Edos) should be so senseless as not to realize that Zik's advocacy of unitary system disguised as one Nigeria sloganeering ended up inspiring Ironsi into dismantling federalism which ended up opening up the Southern minorities, of which I am, to exploitation, oppression, etc by the big three (WAZOBIA). If fact the day you'll pay a long visit to Benin and in fact any other Edo/Delta town apart from probably the Anioma ones you will discard this your perception that it takes only a Yoruba person to hate Zik and Ironsi. Why should I love Zik and Ironsi who caused my economic and political enslavement as a minority to the WAZOBIA tribes just because I want to prove I am not Yoruba? Awolowo's actions during the war might have really hurt you psychologically and he could be blamed for even intervening in the war rather than allow it run its natural course as it was essentially a war between those who even jailed him, but that does not alter the truth that his position as a federalist would have paid me better if Zik and his lieutenants had listened to him at the constitution drafting stage. After all have we not all now seen from experimentation with unitary system for the past 50 years that Unitary system is too grave an evil for any truly educated and sincere person to even contemplate let alone openly advocate for a multi-ethnic democracy like Nigeria? The mere fact that even you now demand true federalism means that posterity has passed a damning verdict on Zik and Ironsi. As an Edo person I eulogize Enahoro not necessarily because he is my kinsman but because he made honourable and realistic proposals like states created along tribal compatibility lines to forestall clashes of culture and its attendant bloodshed as (if he saw today's Nigeria ahead), and also proposed the secession clause to instill in all our future leaders the fear of the consequences of misgovernance - both of which were roundly rejected by that myopic Zik who argued that secession clause was inimical to national unity and that federalism would promote tribalism over nationalism due to his very naive assumption that a country of over 400 strange bed fellow and mutually antagonizing tribes would be so peacefully and successfully governed by unitary system therefore making secession clause unnecessary. The presence of secession clause in that independence constitution would have restrained Balewa and Ahmadu Bello from misruling so much as to warrant Awolowo's civilian Coup and later Nzeogwu's military coup which each of Awo and Nzeogwu found as the only available weapon of defence against Balewa's misrule and assault on the South since the more effective , legal and non-violent option (i.e. secession clause) had been forestalled by Zik and his NCNC. If there were secession clause do you think Awo or Nzeogwu would have resorted to coups, or that even Ojukwu himself would have used the approach he used in seeking Biafra which ended up failing for that matter? That is the thrust of my contention against Zik, and the endowment I need to analyse the issue the way I have always done is simple education and minimum intelligence, and not being a Yoruba or Hausa. Some very honest Igbo guys have accepted that Zik's fantasy with one Nigeria landed the South in this mess. I met two of such Igbo guys on my recent thread on Saro Wiwa and I was humbled by their honesty and tribal detachment. in fact one particular one of them was very consumate and expository in his acknowledgement that Zik ruined our future as Southerners. I will go back to that post and mention your name so that you can read him up to see if he too is Yoruba. Well, if the mods are banning you, I think it might have more to do with your sometimes abusive choice of words like you always use on me than your assumption of puncturing anyone's "propaganda". What you do when you see an arguement is to try attacking with superior facts and logic rather than resort to alleging that the person must be Yoruba as if that will change the fact that his arguement is superior to yours. I don't try to read people's tribes from their opinions because I find it childish and as an escape route from the onslaught of his superior arguement. |
mamabomboy:Modu Sheriff has proven that it is not over until it is over. You wan try? |
SonOfEl:It's obvious you are very poor in philosophical reasoning. If Ironsi had not forcefully taken over power and tampered with federalism at all we would not have ever had the ugly history of military rule thus the Abachas, IBBs, Gowons, OBJs, etc would not have ever smelled power let alone perpetrated their evils, hence we would not have degenerated to this very low level of even comparing military rulers and trying to even say which is better than which when military rule is itself an aberration that should be unheard of. Each time you look at a chart of Nigeria's past rulers and you see almost all of them in military caps and uniforms does it give you joy? You should be ashamed of yourself for degenerating so low as to start trying to establish which military ruler was better than the other in a country which started with a world class model democracy. Don't you know that Ironsi is responsible for military rule in this country and all the retrogression, genocides, corruption, war, etc, that came with it? If Ironsi had been honest enough to drop his own personal ambition and just hand over to Dipcharima and then replace the slain premiers with their deputies and left the stage honourably, do you think all the later events that led to war, successive coups, bloodshed, institutionalization of corruption, the coming of Gowon, Murtala Mohammed, OBJ, Buhari, IBB, Abacha, etc would have later come to be our lot leading to this current tragedy? My friend you need to stop being parochial and start looking at issues holistically. Must you defend a villain just because he was of your tribe? If Ironsi were a Yoruba or Hausa man would you have been defending him now and trying to rationalize his deeds? Be honest! |
SonOfEl:But you initially claimed Ironsi made no mistake? However, what you fail to understand is that after Ironsi was overthrown Gowon actually corrected Ironsi's fraud (I won't call it a mistake because Ironsi did that against commonsense and logic) by restoring the regions 100% to status quo ante with his own Decree 56 and ran the country like that for 11 months but was forced to start reverting not because he loved to but because it became necessary as a tool to cripple Ojukwu for declaring Biafra. Had Ojukwu not declared Biafra but remained calm and kept on galvanising support for the implementation of Aburi accord, Gowon would not have been forced to start reversing himself. In all Ironsi set the ugly precedent and morally emboldened others to follow suit. We all blame Adam for sin not because we ourselves are not sinners but because he set the precedent. |
So the "Christian" and Unitary Republic of Biafra will have indegenous muslems? |
First Nigeria Regional Elections: Western Nigeria 1951 Elections Matthew Mbu and history: Ambassador Mathew Mbu is a well- respected Nigerian. But in this piece, veteran journalist, Mr Felix Adenaike challenges some of his claims about Nigeria's past 'Falsehood may have its hour, but it has no future' - Francois D. Pressense In what seemed his 48th independence anniversary gift to Nigerians, Dr. Matthew Tawo Mbu, politician, lawyer and diplomat, gave The Nation an interview run in its October 1 edition addressing some political issues in Nigeria of which he had been a key player. Among others, he spoke on the Western Nigeria election held in 1951, two generations ago, and repeated the claim of the National Council of Nigeria and the Cameroon (NCNC) that it won that poll, but had been robbed of victory. Then as now, Dr. Mbu did not provide any evidence to substantiate the NCNC claim. Dr. Mbu said of that election held on 24 September 1951 that: "Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe was betrayed by the Western Region of Nigeria, not by the electorate, but by the leaders. The NCNC won the election against the Action Group (led by Chief Obafemi Awolowo), but the Action Group introduced what was unknown to Nigerian history", namely, "carpet crossing. They Action Group bought members of the NCNC to join the Action Group after these people had won election on the platform of the NCNC. Zik, the leader of a majority party in the Western Region became the Leader of Opposition overnight". Reminded by the interviewer that the late Chief AMA Akinloye had maintained in his lifetime that he and his group had contested the election on a neutral platform from the NCNC, Dr. Mbu said: "That is his version. He is entitled to say what he wants to say. I don't want to say ill of the dead. He knew he was NCNC and his group was NCNC. Adelabu remained NCNC. He stuck on to NCNC till he died". The late Dr. Kingsley Ozumba Mbadiwe said in his autobiography, Rebirth of a nation, among others that: "But in pursuance of the policy of creating a political climate healthy enough to make one a citizen wherever he lived, Dr. Azikiwe contested and won the general elections in 1951 into the Western House of Assembly. To stultify this policy of one Nigeria in favour of his tribally-based philosophy, Chief Awolowo got some elected members to cross carpet from the NCNC to his AG side. Zik the victor lost. And Awolowo's party was able to form the government of the Western Region." At a news conference in Lagos on 20 September 1989, more than two years after Chief Awolowo's death, Dr. Mbadiwe returned to the topic saying: "Dr. Azikiwe and his party won the majority of seats in the Western House of Assembly. He was due to be elected the Leader of Government Business, when overnight, the Action Group introduced the notorious carpet- crossing. By this manipulation, members who won under the NCNC crossed over to the Action Group building it to become the majority party in the West. As a result of this, Chief Awolowo was elected Leader of Government Business and Dr. Azikiwe had to resign." Neither Dr. Mbu nor Dr. Mbadiwe named the members of the NCNC who contested the election on the party's platform and later joined the Action Group to enable Chief Awolowo form the government to the exclusion of Dr. Azikiwe. These are weighty allegations such that they would have assisted their readers to clear the issues rather just repeat their own version of the events at that time in the hope that such repetition would turn falsehood into facts. To avert conflicting claims over candidates, Mr. Harold Cooper, the Government Public Relations Officer, wrote to the parties to furnish a list of the candidates contesting election on their platforms. Only the Action Group complied with this request and its list of candidates was as follows: 1. Ijebu Remo Division - Obafemi Awolowo and M.S. Sowole; 2. Ijebu Ode Division - S.O. Awokoya, Rev. S.A. Banjo and V.D. Phillips; 3. Oyo Division - Chief Bode Thomas, Abiodun Akerele, A.B.P. Martins, T.A. Amao and SB Eyitayo; 4. Osun Division - SL Akintola, JO. Adigun, JO Oroge, S.I. Ogunwale, I.A. Adejare, J.A. Ogunmuyiwa and S.O. Ola; 5. Ondo Division - P.A. Ladapo and G.A. Deko; 6. Okitipupa Division - Dr. L.B. Lebi, CA Tewe and SO Tubo; 7. Epe Division - SL Edu, AB Gbajumo, Obafemi Ajayi and C.A. Williams; 8. Ikeja Division - O. Akeredolu-Ale, SO Gbadamosi and FO Okuntola; 9. Badagry Division - Chief CD Akran, Akinyemi Amosu and Rev. GM Fisher; 10. Egba Division - J.F. Odunjo, Alhaji A.T. Ahmed, CPA Cole, Rev S.A. Daramola, Akintoye Tejuoso, SB Sobande, IO Delano and A Adedamola. The others were as follows: 11. Egbado Division - J.A.O. Odebiyi, D.A. Fafunmi, Adebiyi Adejumo, A. Akin Illo and P.O. Otegbeye; 12. Ife Division - Rev S.A. Adeyefa, D.A. Ademiluyi, J.O. Opadina, and S.O. Olagbaju; 13. Ekiti Division - E.A. Babalola, Rev. J Ade Ajayi, S.K. Familoni, S.A. Okeya and D Atolagbe; 14. Owo Division - Michael Adekunle Ajasin, A.O. Ogedengbe, JA Agunloye, LO Omojola and R.A. Olusa; 15. Western Ijaw Division - Pere EH Sapre-Obi and MF Agidee; 16. Ishan Division - Anthony Enahoro; 17. Urhobo Division - WE Mowarin, J.B. Ohwinbiri and JD Ifode; 18.Warri Division - Arthur Prest and O. Otere, and 19. Kukuruku Division - D.J.I. Igenuma. Of the names on the list, only MA Ajasin from Owo Division, which comprised Akoko then, did not run because of party solidarity and unity in Owo. He stood down for A.O. Ogedengbe and R.A. Olusa to contest two of the three seats, which they won, while D.K. Olumofin won the third for the NCNC. Three secretaries of the Action Group, who ran as independents and won were: 1. Egba Division- Alhaji D.S. Adegbenro 2. Ekiti Division - J.O. Osuntokun, and 3. Epe Division - S.O. Hassan. At the close of polls on 24 September 1951, the Action Group had won 38 of the 72 seats in contention out of the total of 80 in the Regional Assembly. The shortfall was due to the fact that elections had been postponed in Lagos and Benin due to security concerns. Lagos had five seats in the West Regional Assembly all later won by the NCNC in the election of 20 November 1951, while Benin had three all later won by Otu Edo candidates in the election of 6 December 1951. Of the 68 candidates on the list furnished by the Action Group to the Government PR Department, 38 of the elected AG members were from that list, and were as follows: 1. Ijebu Remo - Obafemi Awolowo and M.S. Sowole; 2. Ijebu Ode - Rev. SA Banjo and S.O. Awokoya; 3. Oyo - Bode Thomas, Abiodun Akerele, ABP Thomas, TA Amao and SB Eyitayo; 4. Osun - S.L. Akintola, J.O. Adigun, JA Oroge, S.I. Ogunwale, I.A. Adejare, J.A. Ogunmuyiwa and S.O. Ola. Other elected AG members from the list were: 5. Egba - J.F. Odunjo, Alhaji AT Ahmed, Rev. S.A. Daramola and Prince Adedamola; 6. Egbado (now Yewa) - J.A.O. Odebiyi, D.A. Fafunmi and A. Akin Illo; 7. Ekiti - E.A. Babalola and Rev. J. Ade-Ajayi; Badagry - Chief CD Akran and Rev. G.M. Fisher; 8. Ikeja - SO Gbadamosi and O Akeredolu- Ale; 9. Ife - Rev. SA Adeyefa and SO Olagbaju; 10. Owo - AO Ogedengbe and RA Olusa; 11. Epe - Safi Lawal Edu; 12. Okitipupa - C.A. Tewe; 13. Western Ijaw - M.F. Agidee; 14. Ishan - Anthony Enahoro, and 15. Warri - Arthur Prest. In addition to the Action Group and the NCNC, there were local/divisional parties such as the Ibadan People's Party (IPP), led by Chief AMA Akinloye; Ondo Improvement League, and Otu Edo of Benin. At the end of poll, the standing of the parties was as follows: 1. Action Group - 38; 2. NCNC and its loyal Independents - 25; 3. IPP - 6 4. Ondo Improvement League - 2. 5. Otu Edo candidates won the three Benin seats, namely, Chief SO Ighodaro, Chief Humphrey Omo- Osagie and Chief Chike Ekwuyasi. Chief Ighodaro opted for the AG, while the latter two went to the NCNC. And of the six IPP elected members, only Adegoke Adelabu joined the NCNC. The rest of them: AMA Akinloye, Chief DT Akinbiyi (who later became the Olubadan of Ibadan), Chief SO Lanlehin, Moyosore Aboderin and SA Akinyemi, opted for the Action Group. The NCNC National Secretary, the late Chief Kola Balogun had sent declaration forms to the IPP assemblymen asking them to declare for the NCNC but Chief Akinloye returned all the forms uncompleted. The three AG secretaries who had run as independents - Adegbenro, Osuntokun and Hassan, five IPP members, one Etu Edo, and one Ondo Improvement League, Chief F.O. Awosika; and Chief Timothy Adeola Odutola (Independent, Ijebu Ode) had swollen the number of the AG elected members. All the transactions had taken place before the inauguration of the Regional Assembly on 7 January 1952. These were not known members of the NCNC, nor did the party publish their names on the list of its candidates, but claimed them as its "members, supporters or sympathisers", according to inimitable Zik in his My Odyssey, " It takes more than speculation to claim a person as a member of your political party". You cannot just be under the "impression" as Zik had claimed that they were and go ahead to field them as electoral candidates. For over a half century, the NCNC is yet to provide evidence to back its claim that it had won the West Regional election in 1951. Mr Cooper absolved his department of responsibility for the controversy generated by the NCNC after the election. At a post election news conference in Lagos he said that "Of the winning candidates, the names of 38 were on the list sent to me by the Action Group. The six successful candidates at Ibadan were all among those who had been identified to me as representing the Ibadan People's Party. No claim of any kind had reached us about the party affiliation of the remaining successful candidates." Why did the NCNC not send a list of its candidates for the poll to the Government PR Department before that poll? And why have Dr. Mbu and the others not published the list of NCNC candidates to substantiate their electoral victory claim in over 50 years but merely kept reaping false claims? The records of the poll conducted in the West and all over Nigeria by the colonial administration are available at the National Archives and can be accessed by any honest researcher. In this matter, it is facts that speak, not what some political/ethnic partisan said or did not say. Dr Azikiwe's frustration was not only in losing the regional election, he also lost the election to the House of Representatives held on 10 January 1951 at the House of Assembly, Ibadan, among NCNC members. The total tally for the 1951 poll in the 80 member Western Regional Assembly was as follows: 1. Action Group - 38; 2. Independent/AG - 15; 3. NCNC - 24; 4. Independent/NCNC - 3. Three members of the NCNC who had been elected to the House changed party allegiance that day ahead of the House of Representatives vote. They were: Chief SY Kesington-Momoh, JG Ako, and Awodi Orisaremi, from Urhobo and Kukuruku Divisions. They were running for the House of Representatives and wanted Action Group votes. Kesington-Momoh and Ako were elected, but Orisaremi went back to the NCNC. That was all the carpet-crossing that took place on 10 January 1952, namely, three at first to the AG and one back to the NCNC. From the vote tally, it is clear that the NCNC and the Independent /NCNC totalling 27 seats altogether out of 80 seats could not have formed the Government of Western Nigeria. Even if the local/divisional parties had chosen the NCNC, it would still be some seats short of 41 required to form the government. The Action Group won 38 seats; its independent candidates - Adegbenro, Osuntokun, Hassan and Odutola won four seats making a total of 42 seats. The AG could have formed the government without the support of the other small parties. It did not have to "bribe" anybody to join it to form the government. Since politics is a game of number, only few principled politicians would not be disposed to joining the winning party, in this case, the AG. Dr. Mbadiwe also claimed in his book: "Successful NCNC men who were not Yoruba were scared away. Dr. Azikiwe who won a seat to the Western House (of) Assembly from a Lagos constituency decided to resign. Since membership of the House of Representatives was by an electoral college in the regional house, no NCNC from the West came to the House of Representatives in Lagos". This is blatantly false. Zik resigned because he lost election to the federal house from the West, while Prince Adeleke Adedoyin, Dr. Ibiyinka Olorun-Nimbe, Chief Frank Oputa- Otutu, Chief Denis Osadebey and Sir Odeleye Fadahunsi were elected from Ibadan to Lagos. Who ever scared non-Yoruba NCNC people from the West? Chief Denis Osadebey succeeded Adegoke Adelabu as Opposition Leader in the West and the likes of Humphrey Omo-Osagie, Festus Okotie-Eboh, Chike Ekwuyasi, Fidelis H Utomi, Obi Osagie, Yamu Numa, GO Oweh and GB Ometan were non-Yoruba NCNC in that Assembly. As Mme De Stael says: The "search for the truth is the noblest occupation of man; its publication is a duty". Dr. Mbu and his political entourage have chosen their own side of history. It remains to be seen whether or not history will absolve them. Their contemporary audience is composed of intelligent people who will search after the truth without inheriting the political prejudice and stereotype of their lying grand-parents. That is the way ahead for Nigeria. And "the greatest friend of truth is time; her greatest enemy is prejudice". - CC Calton |
The Northern elite too always claimed that Boko Haram members were from Niger and Chad and not really Nigerians. So how come people from other countries come into Nigeria freely to terrorise us? I have never heard other African countries claim that their terrorists are from Nigeria. Nigerians should stop deceiving themselves. Only a return to true federalism will bring genuine peace. |
SonOfEl:Please go and get books to read to correct your misconception and falsehood. The biggest calamity which befell this country is not amalgamation, not independence, not the January 15 1966 coup, not July 29 1966 revenge coup, not Biafra War, etc; but Ironsi's Unification Decree. That was the final blow that broke the backbone of any hope for a just and equittable Nigeria. And that was when the enduring foundation for this intractable corruption monster was laid. If you understand the power of federalism and resource control as regards exponential development of any society you'll not even come here to defend Ironsi a bit. |
SonOfEl:Revisionist! You came too late. |
DMerciful:I actually share your concern. However, if they can't apologize, then at least they should stop distorting the facts and just remain silent. For instance if you check the thread you'll notice that after I posted the topic one of them just came in and began to make jest of Saro Wiwa for allegedly refusing to see beyond his nose obviously in veiled reference to Wiwa's "betrayal" of Ojukwu despite knowing that the reverse was actually the case. That, to me, is dishonesty and provocation. My own idea of a genuine apology is not even to say "I am sorry" but to actually stop provoking the person further. If Saro Wiwa were to resurrect now, do you sincerely think he would agree to fight for federalism in cooperation with a people still mocking him till today in the name of seeing that bygone is bygone? The mere fact that they themselves have not stopped their mockery of him shows that they too have not let bygone be bygone. So why should I deceive myself thinking I will achieve results by working with someone whom I have forgiven but himself has not forgiven me despite he actually wronged me more? Ojukwu and Saro Wiwa are dead and gone forever. We both lost. So they should forgive as we have forgiven them so that we can genuinely work together to restore federalism. Even the Bible says that "two people must agree first before they can work together" or else they'll both keep failing again and again to get results. |
DMerciful:I know we should not continue to excuse mistakes of the past, but not when those who caused the problem keep trying to lay the blame at the door post of others and keep trying to create the impression that they themselves were 100% innocent and that Saro Wiwa and Isaac Boro just victimized them innocently when actually Boro and Wiwa only retaliated for being earlier on betrayed by them. Why do SE Igbos find it so difficult to simply accept the truth that Ojukwu was the first to betray Isaac Boro and Saro Wiwa but keep telling stories that Boro had no home support, did his own in a shabby manner, gathered some soldiers in the village square, and did not follow the right procedure as if there is any standard laid down procedure to violent approach to secession which Ojukwu himself used? Genuine reconciliation comes with truth and blunt honesty and not blackmail and deliberate distortion of known facts. He who comes to equity must come with clean hands. |
chidozieikeji2:May goodness and mercy of God never depart from you for your rare honesty unlike most Igbos who keep trying to distort facts. With your likes it means there is really hope. |
stayTrue:Well, I am not yet on twitter. But you can get me on Facebook. I'll send you my Facebook ID. |
princejayboss:Escapism galore! If you really have facts to defend your position, you would have long dropped them here. The truth is hurting you badly. |
JaaizTech:Good tracking! Thank you. You've said it all. That was how the ruination of Nigeria officially began by Ironsi. All other issues like Aburi Accord proposals, breaking down regions into twelve states, obnoxious land use decree, etc would not have been if those who started tampering with the constitution did not attempt it. All these are just the fallouts of the fact that Ironsi first tampered with the constitution when the public did not demand constitution review. Prior to Ironsi's misadventure into politics the constitution of Nigeria was a "we the people" constitution drafted not by military men but by civilians representing all political parties (AG, NDC, NCNC, NPC, UMBC, NEPU, etc) when they all met in London in 1957. These people all agreed on federalism by majority votes. But ironsi came and started unilaterally changing such a constitution thus implicitly claiming he knew more than those world's prestigious universities' graduates and professionals who drafted it even though himself was barely educated. The remotest cause of the Anarchy into which Nigeria was sliding in the first republic was the fact that Tafawa Balewa was trying to unconstitutionally interfere in Western Region's internal affairs rather than just allow the Awolowo versus Akintola issue run its natural course. It therefore could be correctly said that Balewa, under the influence of Ahmadu Bello, was trying to assume and abuse the powers the constitution did not really grant him. Now if the centre could so much abuse the little power it had and thus caused so much anarchy in the land, commonsense dictated that whoever really claimed to have come to the rescue through an alteration in the constitution should have further weakened the centre. But Aguyi Ironsi who claimed he came to the rescue began strengthening the centre further. How logical and sensible was that? That is why I continue to believe that Ironsi was on a separate mission with a hidden agenda known to only him and the Zik who had always preferred a strong centre. In fact had Zik had his way Nigeria would not have even been split into regions let alone states. Records have it that he opposed the creation of Regions but just wanted Nigeria to be "One" to suit his "One-Nigeria" sloganeering thereby making it easy for him to rule over the whole Nigeria and Africa. |
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inquisitiv:God bless you abundantly. Due to your very rare kind of honesty and sincerity, I apologise to you for my tribalistic comments. I was pushed into adding tribalistic ingredients to my comments. I naturally don't do so except provoked by those who think they have a monopoly of tribal slurs. I know every tribe, including mine, has its own good and bad sides. In fact when I denounce some bad attitudes of my tribe I get attacked by my people who sometimes accuse me of not really being one of them. I understand that most Nigerian tribes are still too primitive to accept and acknowledge where they messed up especially concerning the tragedy of Nigeria. I enjoy it more when people engage me with facts and logic alone for that is the only way we can sincerely get to agree with one another. I particularly hate half truths and deliberate ego-driven distortions of glaring facts. As someone from a minority tribe I am always very hard on Zik and Ironsi because their political ideologies and actions were inimical and ruinous to the interest of minorities. At the age of 17 I had to attend a northern university. While I was there I held money in my hands to rent a house but the Northern landlords would reject me because of my religion. Even in the part of Lagos where I live, once you are neither Hausa nor Yoruba, they feel you are automatically Igbo and therefore deny you attention in certain things. During my NYSC days in the North I twice escaped death from shariah rioters. With all these ugly experiences I began to wonder why my home state could not provide me with tertiary education and then a job to the extent that I had to go to other places to receive insults, humiliation and threats to my precious life. Then I commenced a research on why Nigeria was so disorganised that my state and virtually every state except Lagos is not viable enough to provide jobs and livelihood for their indigens so as to prevent them from migrating to other tribe's lands to hopelessly seek livelihood amidst insults and threats to life. In my research I found out that Nigeria actually started in 1960 with a government (federalism) modelled in such a way that each subsequently created state would have been viable enough to care for all her natives thus Lagos and Abuja would not have been this over attractive, but that Zik, in his misguided quest for an idealistic national unity and aversion to practical reality on ground, inspired Ironsi and virtually every Igbo with unitary system proclivity under his one-Nigeria euphemism which informed Ironsi's decision to destroy that model of government set for us, and consequently redirecting all powers and revenues to Lagos rather than remain at the regions and consequently Nigeria started suffering primacy under Lagos to the detriment of the development and growth of all other states. That was how I developed hatred for Zik and Ironsi till today. But when I read Awolowo's write ups and his ideologies I discovered he was simply superb, very realistic, did not delude himself with national unity, had no use for political correctness, believed correctly that genuine national unity can only be achieved if each ethnic group is given autonomy and self assertion, argued in favour of a system that would have protected the minorities from the tyranny of the majority which we now have, etc. In his works I discovered he had foresight and vision and did not want a Nigeria built on deceit in the name of national unity, but that his enemies painted his his federalist mien as tribalism. Same with Enahoro my own representative. Enahoro was so realistic that he wanted a confederacy obviously sensing that all may not later be well. But he was maligned by those deluding themselves with nationalism. However, the only two mistakes Awolowo made were his dabbling into the Warri traditional stool issue and his decision to intervene in the war. He should have just stayed on the sidelines and watched as it was even a war between those who earlier colluded together to imprison him. Once again I apologize to you for my tribal slurs. I am indeed humbled by your honesty and truth-loving nature. Your likes are extremely rare. |
36xtr36r:Unfortunately you remain a slave of the SS inclusive of Uneme in the current republic for now until you go to Ekweremadu and ask him to sponsor a bill for secession clause. Let him use the Biafra "bravery" to do such. I now want to prove that you are a slave of Uneme. So I therefore command you my slave to write your next comment and mention Unemeh in it. One, two, goooooo...........! |
36xtr36r:Then get out of NL and go and ask your Ekweremadu to sponsor a bill to that end rather than zoning PDP tickets here and there. |
36xtr36r:There was referendum in Scotland recently because they have it in their constitution. But there can't be referendum for your secession of Biafra. It is not in our constitution. You yourselves with your "nationalistic" NCNC's position prevented its inclusion in our constitution claiming that such would be inimical to national unity. Now you are enjoying that national unity but complaining. Why? So you now want referendum illegally conducted for you against the provision of our constitution? Even the UN will not answer you. Only sheer buffonrey would have made a people believe that a country of over 400 different tribes would be a bed of roses and therefore making secession clause unnecessary. If you are sincere then tell Ekweremadu to sponsor a bill to ammend our constitution to that effect. |
blackprowler:Okay then, tell your people to allow true federalism and resource control so that you can take your Shiroro and Kainji Dams revenues all for yourselves. But you refuse this offer. Why? |
36xtr36r:Yes NCNC believed in a "One-Nigeria" where Igbos were slaves of Arewanistan with Zik as the chief slave. But just four years after, the same "Nationalistic" NCNC was pummelled by NPC which rigged censuses and elections against the Eastern Region. Then rather than remaining with the Arewa NPC to re-nationalize the ruling government, the "Nationalistic" NCNC turned around to form the UPGA alliance with the same "One-Yoruba, One Oduduwa" AG. What a nationalistic party indeed! After few months later the same "nationalistic" NCNC started asking for "One Biafra, One Igbo nation". If NCNC's brand of nationalism were the standard, then nationalism would have been irritating. Fake nationalism. Nationalism of self-enslavement for economic interest. Nationalism to cheat. Nationalism to deceive. Nationalism to re-colonize. Nationalism to plan tribal coups. Travesty of nationalism. NCNC, led by Zik and Okpara, was a neocolonialist party and not a nationalistic party. Below is the deadly truth of the cross-carpeting accusation. It punctures the falsehood you Ignorant Igbos have been selling for ages. Read it carefully and see that Zik never won that election in the first instance and that no one really cross-carpeted but that what happened was similar to forming alliances between parties at a time of stalemate caused by the inability of one single party to clinch more than 50% votes. It was just like how none of NPC, NCNC and AG failed to clinch up to 50% in 1959 elections and therefore no single party could form the government thus necessitating alliances which made Zik align his NCNC with NPC. Could that also be called cross carpeting? Wishing you happy reading: First Nigeria Regional Elections: Western Nigeria 1951 Elections Matthew Mbu and history Ambassador Mathew Mbu is a well- respected Nigerian. But in this piece, veteran journalist, Mr Felix Adenaike challenges some of his claims about Nigeria's past 'Falsehood may have its hour, but it has no future' - Francois D. Pressense In what seemed his 48th independence anniversary gift to Nigerians, Dr. Matthew Tawo Mbu, politician, lawyer and diplomat, gave The Nation an interview run in its October 1 edition addressing some political issues in Nigeria of which he had been a key player. Among others, he spoke on the Western Nigeria election held in 1951, two generations ago, and repeated the claim of the National Council of Nigeria and the Cameroon (NCNC) that it won that poll, but had been robbed of victory. Then as now, Dr. Mbu did not provide any evidence to substantiate the NCNC claim. Dr. Mbu said of that election held on 24 September 1951 that: "Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe was betrayed by the Western Region of Nigeria, not by the electorate, but by the leaders. The NCNC won the election against the Action Group (led by Chief Obafemi Awolowo), but the Action Group introduced what was unknown to Nigerian history", namely, "carpet crossing. They Action Group bought members of the NCNC to join the Action Group after these people had won election on the platform of the NCNC. Zik, the leader of a majority party in the Western Region became the Leader of Opposition overnight". Reminded by the interviewer that the late Chief AMA Akinloye had maintained in his lifetime that he and his group had contested the election on a neutral platform from the NCNC, Dr. Mbu said: "That is his version. He is entitled to say what he wants to say. I don't want to say ill of the dead. He knew he was NCNC and his group was NCNC. Adelabu remained NCNC. He stuck on to NCNC till he died". The late Dr. Kingsley Ozumba Mbadiwe said in his autobiography, Rebirth of a nation, among others that: "But in pursuance of the policy of creating a political climate healthy enough to make one a citizen wherever he lived, Dr. Azikiwe contested and won the general elections in 1951 into the Western House of Assembly. To stultify this policy of one Nigeria in favour of his tribally-based philosophy, Chief Awolowo got some elected members to cross carpet from the NCNC to his AG side. Zik the victor lost. And Awolowo's party was able to form the government of the Western Region." At a news conference in Lagos on 20 September 1989, more than two years after Chief Awolowo's death, Dr. Mbadiwe returned to the topic saying: "Dr. Azikiwe and his party won the majority of seats in the Western House of Assembly. He was due to be elected the Leader of Government Business, when overnight, the Action Group introduced the notorious carpet- crossing. By this manipulation, members who won under the NCNC crossed over to the Action Group building it to become the majority party in the West. As a result of this, Chief Awolowo was elected Leader of Government Business and Dr. Azikiwe had to resign." Neither Dr. Mbu nor Dr. Mbadiwe named the members of the NCNC who contested the election on the party's platform and later joined the Action Group to enable Chief Awolowo form the government to the exclusion of Dr. Azikiwe. These are weighty allegations such that they would have assisted their readers to clear the issues rather just repeat their own version of the events at that time in the hope that such repetitions would turn falsehood into facts. To avert conflicting claims over candidates, Mr. Harold Cooper, the Government Public Relations Officer, wrote to the parties to furnish a list of the candidates contesting election on their platforms. Only the Action Group complied with this request and its list of candidates was as follows: Ijebu Remo Division - Obafemi Awolowo and M.S. Sowole; Ijebu Ode Division - S.O. Awokoya, Rev. S.A. Banjo and V.D. Phillips; Oyo Division - Chief Bode Thomas, Abiodun Akerele, A.B.P. Martins, T.A. Amao and SB Eyitayo; Osun Division - SL Akintola, JO Adigun, JO Oroge, S.I. Ogunwale, I.A. Adejare, J.A. Ogunmuyiwa and S.O. Ola; Ondo Division - P.A. Ladapo and G.A. Deko; Okitipupa Division - Dr. L.B. Lebi, CA Tewe and SO Tubo; Epe Division - SL Edu, AB Gbajumo, Obafemi Ajayi and C.A. Williams; Ikeja Division - O. Akeredolu-Ale, SO Gbadamosi and FO Okuntola; Badagry Division - Chief CD Akran, Akinyemi Amosu and Rev. GM Fisher; Egba Division - J.F. Odunjo, Alhaji A.T. Ahmed, CPA Cole, Rev S.A. Daramola, Akintoye Tejuoso, SB Sobande, IO Delano and A Adedamola. The others were as follows: Egbado Division - J.A.O. Odebiyi, D.A. Fafunmi, Adebiyi Adejumo, A. Akin Illo and P.O. Otegbeye; Ife Division - Rev S.A. Adeyefa, D.A. Ademiluyi, J.O. Opadina, and S.O. Olagbaju; Ekiti Division - E.A. Babalola, Rev. J Ade Ajayi, S.K. Familoni, S.A. Okeya and D Atolagbe; Owo Division - Michael Adekunle Ajasin, A.O. Ogedengbe, JA Agunloye, LO Omojola and R.A. Olusa; Western Ijaw Division - Pere EH Sapre-Obi and MF Agidee; Ishan Division - Anthony Enahoro; Urhobo Division - WE Mowarin, J.B. Ohwinbiri and JD Ifode; Warri Division - Arthur Prest and O. Otere, and Kukuruku Division - D.J.I. Igenuma. Of the names on the list, only MA Ajasin from Owo Division, which comprised Akoko then, did not run because of party solidarity and unity in Owo. He stood down for A.O. Ogedengbe and R.A. Olusa to contest two of the three seats, which they won, while D.K. Olumofin won the third for the NCNC. Three secretaries of the Action Group, who ran as independents and won were: Alhaji D.S. Adegbenro, Egba Division; J.O. Osuntokun, Ekiti Division and S.O. Hassan, Epe Division. At the close of polls on 24 September 1951, the Action Group had won 38 of the 72 seats in contention in the Regional Assembly. There were a total of 80 seats. Lagos had five seats in the West Regional Assembly all won by the NCNC in the election of 20 November 1951, while Benin had three won by Otu Edo candidates in the election of 6 December 1951. The poll had been postponed in Lagos and Benin following security concerns. Of the 68 candidates on the list furnished by the Action Group to the Government PR Department, 38 of the elected AG members were from that list. And they were as follows: Ijebu Remo - Obafemi Awolowo and M.S. Sowole; Ijebu Ode - Rev. SA Banjo and S.O. Awokoya; Oyo - Bode Thomas, Abiodun Akerele, ABP Thomas, TA Amao and SB Eyitayo; Osun - S.L. Akintola, J.O. Adigun, JA Oroge, S.I. Ogunwale, I.A. Adejare, J.A. Ogunmuyiwa and S.O. Ola. Other elected AG members from the list were: Egba - J.F. Odunjo, Alhaji AT Ahmed, Rev. S.A. Daramola and Prince Adedamola; Egbado (now Yewa) - J.A.O. Odebiyi, D.A. Fafunmi and A. Akin Illo; Ekiti - E.A. Babalola and Rev. J. Ade-Ajayi; Badagry - Chief CD Akran and Rev. G.M. Fisher; Ikeja - SO Gbadamosi and O Akeredolu- Ale; Ife - Rev. SA Adeyefa and SO Olagbaju; Owo - AO Ogedengbe and RA Olusa; Epe - Safi Lawal Edu; Okitipupa - C.A. Tewe; Western Ijaw - M.F. Agidee; Ishan - Anthony Enahoro, and Warri - Arthur Prest. In addition to the Action Group and the NCNC, there were local/divisional parties such as the Ibadan People's Party (IPP), led by Chief AMA Akinloye; Ondo Improvement League, and Otu Edo of Benin. At the end of poll, the standing of the parties was as follows: Action Group 38; NCNC/Independents 25; IPP 6 and Ondo Improvement League 2. Otu Edo candidates won the three Benin seats, namely, Chief SO Ighodaro, Chief Humphrey Omo- Osagie and Chief Chike Ekwuyasi. Chief Ighodaro opted for the AG, while the latter two went to the NCNC. And of the six IPP elected members, only Adegoke Adelabu joined the NCNC. The rest of them: AMA Akinloye, Chief DT Akinbiyi (who later became the Olubadan of Ibadan), Chief SO Lanlehin, Moyosore Aboderin and SA Akinyemi, opted for the Action Group. The NCNC National Secretary, the late Chief Kola Balogun had sent declaration forms to the IPP assemblymen asking them to declare for the NCNC but Chief Akinloye returned all the forms uncompleted. The three AG secretaries who had run as independents - Adegbenro, Osuntokun and Hassan, five IPP members, one Etu Edo, and one Ondo Improvement League, Chief F.O. Awosika; and Chief Timothy Adeola Odutola (Independent, Ijebu Ode) had swollen the number of the AG elected members. All the transactions had taken place before the inauguration of the Regional Assembly on 7 January 1952. These were not known members of the NCNC, nor did the party publish their names on the list of its candidates, but claimed them as its "members, supporters or sympathisers", according to inimitable Zik in his My Odyssey. It takes more than speculation to claim a person as a member of your political party. You cannot just be under the "impression" as Zik had claimed that they were and go ahead to field them as electoral candidates. For over a half century, the NCNC is yet to provide evidence to back its claim that it had won the West Regional election in 1951. Mr Cooper absolved his department of responsibility for the controversy generated by the NCNC after the election. At a post election news conference in Lagos he said that "Of the winning candidates, the names of 38 were on the list sent to me by the Action Group. The six successful candidates at Ibadan were all among those who had been identified to me as representing the Ibadan People's Party. No claim of any kind had reached us about the party affiliation of the remaining successful candidates." Why did the NCNC not send a list of its candidates for the poll to the Government PR Department before that poll? And why have Dr. Mbu and the others not published the list of NCNC candidates to substantiate their electoral victory claim in over 50 years but merely kept reaping false claims? The records of the poll conducted in the West and all over Nigeria by the colonial administration are available at the National Archives and can be accessed by any honest researcher. In this matter, it is facts that speak, not what some political/ethnic partisan said or did not say. Dr Azikiwe's frustration was not only in losing the regional election, he also lost the election to the House of Representatives held on 10 January 1951 at the House of Assembly, Ibadan, among NCNC members. The total tally for the 1951 poll in the 80- member Western Regional Assembly was as follows: Action Group 38; Independent/AG 15; NCNC 24; Independent/NCNC 3. Three members of the NCNC who had been elected to the House changed party allegiance that day ahead of the House of Representatives vote. They were: Chief SY Kesington-Momoh, JG Ako, and Awodi Orisaremi, from Urhobo and Kukuruku Divisions. They were running for the House of Representatives and wanted Action Group votes. Kesington-Momoh and Ako were elected, but Orisaremi went back to the NCNC. That was all the carpet-crossing that took place on 10 January 1952, namely, three at first to the AG and one back to the NCNC. From the vote tally, it is clear that the NCNC and the Independent /NCNC totalling 27 seats altogether out of 80 seats could not have formed the Government of Western Nigeria. Even if the local/divisional parties had chosen the NCNC, it would still be some seats short of 41 required to form the government. The Action Group won 38 seats; its independent candidates - Adegbenro, Osuntokun, Hassan and Odutola won four seats making a total of 42 seats. The AG could have formed the government without the support of the other small parties. It did not have to "bribe" anybody to join it to form the government. Since politics is a game of number, only few principled politicians would not be disposed to joining the winning party, in this case, the AG. Dr. Mbadiwe also claimed in his book: "Successful NCNC men who were not Yoruba were scared away. Dr. Azikiwe who won a seat to the Western House (of) Assembly from a Lagos constituency decided to resign. Since membership of the House of Representatives was by an electoral college in the regional house, no NCNC from the West came to the House of Representatives in Lagos". This is blatantly false. Zik resigned because he lost election to the federal house from the West, while Prince Adeleke Adedoyin, Dr. Ibiyinka Olorun-Nimbe, Chief Frank Oputa- Otutu, Chief Denis Osadebey and Sir Odeleye Fadahunsi were elected from Ibadan to Lagos. Who ever scared non-Yoruba NCNC people from the West? Chief Denis Osadebey succeeded Adegoke Adelabu as Opposition Leader in the West and the likes of Humphrey Omo-Osagie, Festus Okotie-Eboh, Chike Ekwuyasi, Fidelis H Utomi, Obi Osagie, Yamu Numa, GO Oweh and GB Ometan were non-Yoruba NCNC in that Assembly. As Mme De Stael says: The "search for the truth is the noblest occupation of man; its publication is a duty". Dr. Mbu and his political entourage have chosen their own side of history. It remains to be seen whether or not history will absolve them. Their contemporary audience is composed of intelligent people who will search after the truth without inheriting the political prejudice and stereotype of their lying grand-parents. That is the way ahead for Nigeria. And "the greatest friend of truth is time; her greatest enemy is prejudice". - CC Calton |
@636rxtr363r or whatever junk of alphabets you identify yourself with, in my penultimate comment above I chose to respond only to the SLS related link you posted as I had already addressed all the other issues you repeated there. The former Central Bank Governor, Sanusi Lamido Sanusi, surprised guests present at the Muson Centre for the launching of the book of Sir Olaniwun Ajayi. WE'RE ALL VICTIMS OF COLONIZATION - Sanusi Lamido Sanusi (In response to Sir Olaniwun Ajayi's book titled "NIGERIA, AFRICA'S FAILED ASSET?" Below is his unedited speech. “Let me start by saying that I am Fulani (laughter). My grandfather was an Emir and therefore I represent all that has been talked about this afternoon. Sir Ajayi has written a book. And like all Nigerians of his generation, he has written in the language of his generation. “My grandfather was a Northerner, I am a Nigerian. The problem with this country is that in 2009, we speak in the language of 1953. Sir Olaniwun can be forgiven for the way he spoke, but I cannot forgive people of my generation speaking in that language. “Let us go into this issue because there are so many myths that are being bandied around. Before colonialism, there was nothing like Northern Nigeria, Before the Sokoto Jihad, there was nothing like the Sokoto caliphate. The man from Kano regard himself as bakane. The man from Zaria was bazazzage. The man from Katsina was bakatsine. The kingdoms were at war with each other. They were Hausas, they were Muslims, they were killing each other. “The Yoruba were Ijebu, Owo, Ijesha, Akoko, Egba. When did they become one? When did the North become one? You have the Sokoto Caliphate that brought every person from Adamawa to Sokoto and said it is one kingdom. They now said it was a Muslim North. “The Colonialists came, put that together and said it is now called the Northern Nigeria. Do you know what happened? Our grand fathers were able to transform to being Northerners. We have not been able to transform to being Nigerians. The fault is ours. Tell me, how many governors has South West produced after Awolowo that are role models of leadership? How many governors has the East produced like Nnamdi Azikiwe that can be role models of leadership? How Many governors in the Niger Delta are role models of leadership? Tell me. There is no evidence statistically that any part of this country has produced good leaders. You talk about Babangida and the economy. Who were the people in charge of the economy during Babangida era? Olu Falae, Kalu Idika Kalu. What state are they from in the North? “We started the banking reform; the first thing I heard was that in Urobo land, that there will be a curse of the ancestors. I said they (ancestors) would not answer. They said why? I said how many factories did Ibru build in Urobo land? So, why will the ancestors of the Urobo people support her? “We talk ethnicity when it pleases us. It is hypocrisy. You said elections were rigged in 1999, Obasanjo and Maurice Iwu rigged election in 2007. Was it a Southern thing? It was not. “The problem is: everywhere in this country, there is one Hausa, Ibo, Yoruba and Itshekiri man whose concern is how to get his hands on the pile and how much he can steal. Whether it is in the military or in the civilian government, they sit down, they eat together. In fact, the constitution says there must be a minister from every state. SO, ANYBODY THAT IS STILL PREACHING THAT THE PROBLEM OF NIGERIA IS YORUBA OR HAUSA OR FULANI, HE DOES NOT LOVE NIGERIA. (Capital letters mine) The problem with Nigeria is that a group of people from each and every ethnic tribe is very selfish. The poverty that is found in Maiduguri is even worse than any poverty that you find in any part of the South. The British came for 60 years and Sir Ajayi talked about few numbers of graduates in the North (two at independence) . What he did not say was that there was a documented policy of the British when they came that the Northerner should not be educated. It was documented. It was British colonial policy. I have the document. I have published articles on it. That if you educate the Northerner you will produce progressive Muslim intellectuals of the type we have in Egypt and India. So, do not educate them. It was documented. And you say they love us (North). “I have spent the better part of my life to fight and Dr. (Reuben) Abati knows me. Yes, my grandfather was an Emir. Why was I in the pro-democracy movement fighting for June 12? Is (Moshood) Abiola from Kano ? Why am I a founding director of the Kudirat Initiative for Nigerian Development (KIND)? “There are good Yoruba people, good Igbo people, good Fulani people, good Nigerians and there are bad people everywhere. That is the truth. “Stop talking about dividing Nigeria because we are not the most populous country in the world. We have all the resources that make it easy to make one united great Nigeria. It is better if we are united than to divide it. “Every time you talk about division, when you restructure, do you know what will happen? In Delta Area, the people in Warri will say Agbor, you don’t have oil. When was the Niger Delta constructed as a political entity? Ten years ago, the Itshekiris were fighting the Urobos. Isn’t that what was happening? Now they have become Niger Delta because they have found oil. After, it will be, if you do not have oil in your village then you cannot share our resources. “There is no country in the world where resources are found in everybody’s hamlet. But people have leaders and they said if you have this geography and if we are one state, then we have a responsibility for making sure that the people who belong to this country have a good nature. “So, why don’t you talk about; we don’t have infrastructure, we don’t have education, we don’t have health. We are still talking about Fulani. Is it the Fulani cattle rearer or is anybody saying there is no poverty among the Fulani?”, he said. This is a great message to our generation. Are we truly ready to develop and unite Nigeria?" Now, I hope you took special note of where he said; "SO, ANYBODY THAT IS STILL PREACHING THAT THE PROBLEM OF NIGERIA IS YORUBA OR HAUSA OR FULANI, HE DOES NOT LOVE NIGERIA". (Capital letters mine) The man's tune has changed again just last month. And such an inconsistent man is your standard. Well I am not surprised because Igbos themselves are equally inconsistent. From "GEJ till 2019, One Naija for life" before elections, to "On Biafra we stand" after GEJ lost. Why would such people not be fascinated by SLS? Like attracts like after all. Birds of a feather congregate. Igbos and SLS in Biafra-Arewanistan union of inconsistency. Zik was indeed a "prophet". He saw it that his people and Arewa would always been one and the same in everything including inconsistency. |
63xtr63r:All you cut and pasted above is pure trash meant for the Dustbin. The only part I'll respond to is the claim by SLS that Yorubas are the problem with Nigeria. If you were not suffering from moronic plague you should have known that the foundation of Nigeria's problem was the born-to-rule mentality of the North by which the North sought to enslave the south and which is why you yourself has been calling them Arewanistan slave masters here. Now a Northerner gave a historical account in which he cut away the period from 1914 to 1960 but just jumped into the middle and started analysing. He omitted the period (1914 - 1960) when his own Northern Oligarchy started laying the foundation for crisis by chanting born-to-rule ... the same accusation you yourself have been making against them here and supporting with you-tube videos, he did not mention how his own Northern brothers started the game of shedding the blood of your own very Igbo people, he did not mention how his own brothers Balewa and Bello commenced executive lawlessness and brigandage by disobeying the Privy Council and installing Akintola against judicial verdict but creating a law that retroactively thus criminally took effect against the verdict...therefore prompting Awolowo to resort to self help in the form of a civilian coup; yet you took that analysis from an Arewanistan as an objective one just because it was anti-Yoruba in title. Very unintelligent of you! In that speech SLS claimed that Yorubas are Nigeria's problem, but there was nowhere in the speech where he spared a line to condemn his kinsmen for always ironically killing Igbos instead of the Yorubas whom he believes are the problem. And such is the speech you referenced to substantiate your claim? See how a relatively uneducated Fulani man has scammed you again with all your Aburi Accord Biafra intelligence? You are too dull to be able to read between the lines. The same SLS recently contradicted himself last month to be precise. I'll post the excerpts on my next comment. |
36xtr36r:Yeah! Igbos have never been cajoled or blackmailed to share a country with those they now call vermins and vagabonds. NO! Igbos have always out of their own free will submitted themselves as slaves to vermins and vagabonds to rule and kill them. Another Igbo One-Nigerianist called Ekweremadu has just willingly submitted the Igbos as slaves of Vermin and Vagabond Saraki. Igbos have willingly accepted as their own god a Vermin Fayose which Yorubas cast out from among them. Is Fayose not the current god worshipped daily in Igbo land? You claim Yorubas are inferior to you people but those whom Yorubas cast out are adopted by you people as your gods. Then who is actually superior between you and them? Actions speak louder than words. Rochas Okorocha is an outcast among Igbos today for nearly the same reason Fayose is an outcast among Yorubas. But that does not make Yorubas adopt Rochas Okorocha as their god the way Igbos have done for Fayose. Igbos are born with self enslavement DNA. You don't need to go and catch them as slaves. They'll come by themselves. |
blackprowler:I don't think he is wrong. The hypocrisy is both ways between Hausas and Igbos. When the North was enjoying groundnut pyramids boom before oil came they stuck to federalism and resource control so much that immediately Ironsi dismantled federalism they rioted and killed thousands of Igbos and even later killed Ironsi himself, but on getting power back they too just continued with unitary system from where Ironsi stopped. On the other hand, had the oil discovered in Oloibiri in 1956 were to have been struck at the backyard of Ironsi's father's house in Umuahia, Ironsi would not have tampered with federalism at all on getting to power. In fact he would have quickly strengthened the regions more than he met them. This is the irony of Nigeria. There is too much hypocrisy. |
jpphilips:Hoping they will see through the smokescreen of Asari Dokubo-Nnamdi Kanu parleying. NDA knows that the ND's real enemies are those who dismantled federalism. |
giftedben:This is a deliberate distortion of facts. Boro never later fought for the course he once bitterly opposed. What Boro fought for (Niger Delta Republic) was totally different from what he opposed (Biafra). He declared Niger Delta Republic not really because he wanted to get out of Nigeria but in order to separate from the oppression of the Eastern Region which was the future Biafra. Ken Saro Wiwa's case was not different. These are the real truths and not the half truths we hear today mixed with lies. |
sauceny:Those are the deadlytruth which will set you free. Why not just give us that your "truthful" version rather than ask me to edit? What exactly is the lie in the comment? Was the "One Nigeria" slogan not an invention of Zik? It is there on you-tube where Zik said it with his own mouth that the "One-Nigeria" slogan was invented by him. Go to you-tube and type in "Zik and One Nigeria slogan" and you'll see the video. Then watch it and come back here to recant your accusation with shame. |
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