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PassingShot:While I agree that Jonathan did nothing for the SS but even claimed that he deliberately left the SS untouched because he did not want to be viewed as being partial, I however disagree with the notion that Yorubas did not sing OBJ's praises. I agree that some very stubborn and assertive Yorubas like Tinubu, Akande, etc never praised OBJ but gave him nightmares; I remember vividly that a lot of Yorubas began to fondly call him Baba wa (meaning our father) after it appeared he was "dealing" with the North by imprisoning Al Mustapha who probably killed MKO even though his incarceration of the man did not have any effect on any road in Yorubaland. Even during the days when Atiku and OBJ were at daggers drawn most Yorubas were fully in support of OBJ and they tried to create the impression that Tinubu was a traitor for romancing with a Hausa man (not minding that Atiku was not really Hausa) who was against their Egbon (brother). Yorubas hatred for Atiku back then was not about anything on the PTDF funds misuse and third term which were the real seeds of discord, but about their brother's tenure being threatened by a disrespectful and insurbordinate "Hausa man" VP to his Yoruba boss. My greatest surprise was that even though OBJ did all he could to forestall a restructuring/SNC which Yorubas had been demanding since Abacha days, they still continued to hail OBJ as Baba. Though I will be dishonest if I don't add that despite the Odi carnage even my own SS too continued to hail OBJ as a patriot and detribalized Nigerian until OBJ and GEJ fell out with each other over GEJ's release of Al-Mustapha and also his second term bid. I used to have many enemies in the SS for my stand against the accolades being showered on OBJ. They would accuse me of never seeing anything good in him. But today they even hate him more than me. It is all an irritating level of hypocrisy and very unfortunate. |
wisdomguy4u:But within two weeks in office the same Ironsi was able to fully capture Isaac Boro for declaring Niger Delta Republic (an "offence" which was far less serious than that of the Igbo coupists) and then within another one month he had fully investigated Boro's secession attempt and therefore had enough evidence which he tendered in court and secured a treasonable felony conviction for Boro and a death sentence for him. Ironsi was a fraud! |
Ariani:In 1964 Awolowo had the option of aligning with the North because Tafawa Balewa had already offered to release him on the condition that he accepts to merge his AG with NPC so as to quieten Igbos once and for all since it was obvious to Balewa that a larger percentage of Yorubas believed more in Awo than Akintola. However, Awolowo declined Balewa's offer thus choosing to remain in prison as a matter of principle. That was perhaps what endeared him to Nzeogwu and co who are said to have planned to release him and make him prime minister while they put Zik's name in the list of those to be killed for hobnobbing with the North. If Zik did his shameless U-turn because he felt Awolowo was without option then why did the same Zik again abandon the UPGA coalition to take up the president position with the NNA after the badly rigged elections against UPGA? That showed Zik was actually the one sitting on the fence. Zik had always been a chameleon as far back as 1938 when he pulled out of NYM in annoyance over the fact that the Yoruba man he supported lost the election to the Ijaw man Awolowo supported. Zik pulled out of NYM and went back to join the same Herbert Macualay whose ideas and NNDP party the youths (inculuding Zik himself) had earlier on rejected and which they formed the NYM to counter. Also Zik had accepted to officiate at a symposium in 1949 aimed at publicly denouncing colonial rule and pressing for independence. But on the D-day Zik was nowhere to be found. After waiting in vain for him for 2 hours the other youths there took it upon themselves to speak and as expected they were arrested and detained by the colonial authority. However on being interviewed by Journalists the next day Zik declared that those youths who organized that symposium were suffering from youthful exuberance. When Anthony Enahoro, one of the imprisoned youths, regained his freedom and was told of Zik's interview with journalists he stopped being an ally of Zik and crossed to Awo's side, and then wrote a book he titled, "Azikiwe: Sinner or saint". Zik further demonstrated his fence sitting prowess when he took sides with Biafra and wrote the Biafra national anthem at the initial stages when it looked as if Biafra would win Nigeria, but defected to the side of Nigeria when it began to appear Biafra was losing it. And that is why Ojukwu hated him till death. Remember Ojukwu attended Awo's burial but refused to attend Zik's? That should indicate to you that with increasing wisdom afforded him by old age Ojukwu later re-assessed the situation and deduced that Zik was guiltier than Awolowo as far as the disunity of the South was concerned. The SNG group which pressed for Jonathan's confirmation as acting president was led by Wole Soyinka, Bakare and other Yorubas with a few SS men. No single Igbo man was among the arrowheads even though Lagos was cosmopolitan and therefore had prominent Igbos who could have joined the arrowheads but refused to. Can you mention the name of any Igbo among the arrowheads of SNG? The truth is that Dora resigned from GEJ's cabinet because GEJ snubbed her in revenge for having always snubbed him during Yaradua days. I have told you that Gowon's single order which released Awo also released Isaac Boro, Enahoro together with all other political detainees who were not serving jail terms in the Eastern Region. So how come you claim Ojukwu released Awo? Moreover as at when Awo was released Ojukwu and Gowon were not yet in any meaningful level of antagonism to each other as the Aburi Accord which later caused their stand-off had not been held let alone reneged on by Gowon. So Ojukwu was still positively disposed to Gowon and therefore was still at least morally subject to Gowon's authority and could not have held Awo back in detention against Gowon's order. Moreover, Gowon sent a flight to Calabar to pick Awo after his release. Now if Ojukwu had started antagonizing Gowon as of then, then Ojukwu would have simply not allowed Awo ( whom he Ojukwu "released" against Gowon's order) to fly in Gowon's flight thus stealing his (Ojukwu's) glory of "releasing" Awo. Your discerning spirit is deceiving you. It does not take only a Yoruba person to see realize that Zik caused the subjugation of the South under the North. I guess the Nzeogwu who openly declared his hatred for Zik was a Yoruba? I guess the Emeka Njoku who recently wrote an article in which he decorated Awo and Bello as leaders of Yorubas but rubbished Zik completely is also a Yoruba? I guess Ojukwu himself was Yoruba for hating Zik for the rest of his life? I defend Awo, not 100% but to a high degree, because of his strong federalist mindset which would have benefited me as a someone from a minority, thus I hate Zik for preaching unitary system disguised as "One Nigeria" and I hate Ironsi for dismantling our federalism" I respect Ahmadu Bello and Balewa for insisting that Nigeria was a mistake. These are the basis that form my disposition towards any of those people of the past. |
Ariani:In 1964 Awolowo had the option of aligning with the North because Tafawa Balewa had already offered to release him on the condition that he accepts to merge his AG with NPC so as to quieten Igbos once and for all since it was obvious to Balewa that a larger percentage of Yorubas believed more in Awo than Akintola. However, Awolowo declined Balewa's offer thus choosing to remain in prison as a matter of principle. That was perhaps what endeared him to Nzeogwu and co who are said to have planned to release him and make him prime minister while they put Zik's name in the list of those to be killed for hobnobbing with the North. If Zik did his shameless U-turn because he felt Awolowo was without option then why did the same Zik again abandon the UPGA coalition to take up the president position with the NNA after the badly rigged elections against UPGA? That showed Zik was actually the one sitting on the fence. Zik had always been a chameleon as far back as 1938 when he pulled out of NYM in annoyance over the fact that the Yoruba man he supported lost the election to the Ijaw man Awolowo supported. Zik pulled out of NYM and went back to join the same Herbert Macualay whose ideas and NNDP party the youths (inculuding Zik himself) had earlier on rejected and which they formed the NYM to counter. Also Zik had accepted to officiate at a symposium in 1949 aimed at publicly denouncing colonial rule and pressing for independence. But on the D-day Zik was nowhere to be found. After waiting in vain for him for 2 hours the other youths there took it upon themselves to speak and as expected they were arrested and detained by the colonial authority. However on being interviewed by Journalists the next day Zik declared that those youths who organized that symposium were suffering from youthful exuberance. When Anthony Enahoro, one of the imprisoned youths, regained his freedom and was told of Zik's interview with journalists he stopped being an ally of Zik and crossed to Awo's side, and then wrote a book he titled, "Azikiwe: Sinner or saint". Zik further demonstrated his fence sitting prowess when he took sides with Biafra and wrote the Biafra national anthem at the initial stages when it looked as if Biafra would win Nigeria, but defected to the side of Nigeria when it began to appear Biafra was losing it. And that is why Ojukwu hated him till death. Remember Ojukwu attended Awo's burial but refused to attend Zik's? That should indicate to you that with increasing wisdom afforded him by old age Ojukwu later re-assessed the situation and deduced that Zik was guiltier than Awolowo as far as the disunity of the South was concerned. The SNG group which pressed for Jonathan's confirmation as acting president was led by Wole Soyinka, Bakare and other Yorubas with a few SS men. No single Igbo man was among the arrowheads even though Lagos was cosmopolitan and therefore had prominent Igbos who could have joined the arrowheads but refused to. Can you mention the name of any Igbo among the arrowheads of SNG? The truth is that Dora resigned from GEJ's cabinet because GEJ snubbed her in revenge for having always snubbed him during Yaradua days. I have told you that Gowon's single order which released Awo also released Isaac Boro, Enahoro together with all other political detainees who were not serving jail terms in the Eastern Region. So how come you claim Ojukwu released Awo? Moreover as at when Awo was released Ojukwu and Gowon were not yet in any meaningful level of antagonism to each other as the Aburi Accord which later caused their stand-off had not been held let alone reneged on by Gowon. So Ojukwu was still positively disposed to Gowon and therefore was still at least morally subject to Gowon's authority and could not have held Awo back in detention against Gowon's order. Moreover, Gowon sent a flight to Calabar to pick Awo after his release. Now if Ojukwu had started antagonizing Gowon as of then, then Ojukwu would have simply not allowed Awo ( whom he Ojukwu "released" against Gowon's order) to fly in Gowon's flight thus stealing his (Ojukwu's) glory of "releasing" Awo. Your discerning spirit is deceiving you. It does not take only a Yoruba person to see realize that Zik caused the subjugation of the South under the North. I guess the Nzeogwu who openly declared his hatred for Zik was a Yoruba? I guess the Emeka Njoku who recently wrote an article in which he decorated Awo and Bello as leaders of Yorubas but rubbished Zik completely is also a Yoruba? I guess Ojukwu himself was Yoruba for hating Zik for the rest of his life? I defend Awo, not 100% but to a high degree, because of his strong federalist mindset which would have benefited me as a someone from a minority, thus I hate Zik for preaching unitary system disguised as "One Nigeria" and I hate Ironsi for dismantling our federalism" I respect Ahmadu Bello and Balewa for insisting that Nigeria was a mistake. These are the basis that form my disposition towards any of those people of the past. |
I would have believed Atiku is If he had made this call even just a day before the Niger Delta Avengers threatened to attack his business interests in the Niger Delta. |
bros what you need to say boldly is that we ndigbo must drop jonathan now before it is too late.And how did it later end? |
PenSniper:Thanks. I keep wondering why they feel only Yorubas have the capacity to recognize the fact that they are not hospitable or diplomatic enough to for the SS to risk forming a country with. They implicitly call us fools by thinking we all are blindly in support of Biafra. I have asked them to produce a detailed plan of how that SS/SE will be governed by either federalism or the unitary system they naturally prefer, and to tell us exactly how equity and protection of minority rights will be guaranteed in that republic but rather they have repeatedly called me a Yoruba man for so demanding. Let them continue in self delusion. They are being told now that the SS will not be part of Biafra but they don't hear. I hope they'll not later accuse us of betrayal when we demonstrate what we mean. |
Op forgot to add Ojoro, Wuruwuru, Wayo, Winch, Mumu, Mugu, Money miss road, etc. |
ITbomb:I thank God that my Edo is up to date on salary payment and occupies 7th position on the GDP rating despite not collecting too much from the FG unlike most of her SS counterpart states. This is why I can't discard my conviction that Edo can and will stand alone if Nigeria eventually collapses. In fact being in Nigeria is a draw back to Edo. |
Standing5:Hmmmm........ They want productivity, economic diversification and industrialization from the government yet, in the name of getting their part of the national cake, they blindly accept from the same government the frivolous gifts on which the government wastes part of the capital meant for industrialization and diversification of the economy. What a pitiable mindset on the Nigerian followership. I have always insisted that Nigeria does not really have bad leaders but very bad followers. |
Those who amalgamated Nigeria made a big mistake, and those who further cemented the amalgamation with "one Nigeria" slogan made the white man's mistake irreversible. |
gidgiddy:You speak like someone who reasons through his penis or vagina as if logical analysis is like sexual intercourse where only emotions and orgasms rule rather than reason. Was it not Igbos, led by Zik, that invented the "one Nigeria" slogan by which they implied that Hausa, Yoruba, Igbos and everyone else were one? Was it not Igbos that labelled themselves as nationalists and others as tribalists when other tribes suggested creating allowance for secession in the constitution? Was it not Igbos that rejected the proposed secession clause in our independence constitution and declared that Nigeria's unity was non-negotiable? You claim to have google where you read Nigeria's history at a button click but you have never come across on google where Zik and his fellow Igbos danced to the tune of the British to successfully resist the inclusion of the secession clause at the drafting stage of Nigeria's independence constitution in 1957. Very pitiful "enlightenment"! How can a tribe which made secession illegal in our constitution now turn around to be accusing other tribes of preventing them from seceding when those other tribes are only following that constitution in which that single tribe criminalized secession with British assistance? This is awkward and preposterous. It only means that single tribe is highly unprincipled, unstable and erratic. It does not make sense at all. In fact it was pure buffonery for a tribe to have been so "optimistic" that a country of strange bedfellows would be so well governed that the inclusion of secession clause in that country's constitution was not necessary. Such a daft and dull mindset! Britain has provision for such referendum in their constitution and that was why it was possible for the Scotland referendum to happen. If it were not in their constitution they would never have allowed it. But Igbos prevented such provision from ever entering into our constitution and now they want to reap the fruits from the tree they prevented from germinating. How sensible and possible? If you want referendum on secession you first ask your legislators to sponsor a bill for that. The only referendum our constitution permits is for the creation of states and regions, and such was invoked to create Midwestern Region by the natives themselves and not the white man as you allege. Ignoramus! The Midwest people were already a pre-colonial country called Benin Kingdom before the coming of the white man. They only re-named the kingdom Midwest due to certain political expediency within Nigeria. That the white man created your own Eastern Region and enclave of Biafra (a name taken from Cameroon) does not automatically mean Midwest was also created by the white man. The white man bundled us with Yorubas but we reversed it by getting our kingdom back as Midwest Region with its pre-colonial boundaries intact. So don't compare Midwest with your undefined Biafra Region. You obviously are completely ignorant of the difference between MEND and NDA. It was MEND that sought federalism and resource control. NDA is seeking Niger Delta Republic and they released their currency just yesterday with the picture of this very Isaac Boro on it. Check the thread on the front page of this very NL site and you'll see it. If Boro did not get their approval and mandate to declare Niger Delta Republic, then why have they decided to so honour him now? You have nothing to say. Biafra prevented Isaac Boro's secession and Isaac Boro prevented theirs. Equation balanced. Those who deny others freedom (by any excuse) do not deserve it themselves..........Abraham Lincoln. |
Ariani:Have you not read it that Ironsi and Ojukwu were set to execute the death sentence Isaac Boro got? Have you never read it that Ojukwu's squad killed 69 soldiers loyal to Isaac Boro in the 2 weeks Kaiama war? If Ojukwu and Ironsi merely arrested Boro without getting him convicted of treasonable felony, would Boro have gone as far as frustrating Ojukwu's Biafra? I too have trashed this issue of Awo vs Zik before and given you superior arguements which disproved his alleged sitting on the fence. I took you through a logical analysis to prove that Akintola went entirely on his own to seek a deal with Ahmadu Bello because he was already a friend of the North and a minister in the pre-independence quasi-self government put in place by the whites in 1957 and headed by Balewa hence he obviously preferred to align with the North against his party's all South alliance in order to preserve his ministerial position into the independence government. I also mentioned that Zik's decision to turn around 4 years later to align with the same Awo to form UPGA that sought to displace the North disproved the allegation that Zik believed earlier on that Awo was a fence sitter over the issue of North vs South. If Zik knew Awo was a fence sitter then why turn around to seek a new UPGA coalition with him after earlier rejecting a similar proposal from him? One might agree that Awo was beyond "forgiveness" after the war. But before the war in 1959 there was practically no reason for Zik to have endangered the entire South just in pursuit of how to get back at him. And mind you that he too could not have come out of prison and joined those who jailed him to fight Gowon who released him. That is practically impossible by any rational individual. Forget the watery arguements that it was Ojukwu who released him from the Eastern prison. The Gowon's order which released Awo also released Enahoro and many others associates of his who were not in Eastern prisons as at that time. You rather need your head re-examined for claiming that Ndigbo assisted GEJ in his travails under the Turai oppression. Dora Akunyili never initially loved the idea of GEJ's rise to presidency. She was a hard headed Yaradua loyalist. It was reported severally in the papers how she would snob GEJ at executive council meetings while Yaradua still held sway. She only began to feign pro-GEJ protest when it. became all too obvious that Yaradua could not make it again. GEJ of course snobed her too on getting to power, hence she left PDP to join Peter Obi in APGA. You have however refused to tell me where in Igbo land any pro-GEJ protest was held like the Lagos SNG group did. NONE! And you tell me Igbos identified with GEJ in his trying moments? The Midwest is 85% Edo and Edoid. So their votes and choices satisfactory represent the entire Midwest. Anioma voted dividedly between Awo and Zik in 1979. You claim Zik was an Anioma himself? Very ridiculous. So Zik was from the Midwest and no longer the Eastern Region? If telling you my sincere feelings as to why Zik was guiltier than Awo on the enslavement of the South under the North makes me appear as a Yoruba man in your eyes, then so be it. I have also argued that Ahmadu Bello and Balewa were was most innocent of the Nigerian tragedy as they made it clear from the beginning that they wanted Nigeria de-amalgamated cos they did not believe in the workability of a country formed by a combination of the Muslim North and Christian South, but that southerners like Zik and Awo persuaded them repeatedly to believe in Nigeria and they finally but reluctantly agreed only for them to be killed in their primes by Southern Soldiers. That somewhat justifies the North's ruthlessness on the South till today. You may therefore also call me a Hausa-Fulani for that, and I still don't care. What I care more about is the objective truth of any issue. |
NaWetinDey:Peter Tosh, not lucky Dube. |
Ariani:Using your standard above we also should agree that Zik himself was myopic, emotional and visionless by his attempt to Avenge Awo's earlier "sin" of sabotaging his dream of governing the Western Region (not minding that he had his own Eastern Region which no else struggled with him to govern). We should also agree here and now that Zik's vendetta mission blinded him to the glaring fact that the North was a seeking to capitalize on the South's pockets of disunity to take power and permanently enslave the entire South. Even before independence those of us in the future Midwest had already started having misgivings against Awo's style of governing the Old Western Region which we belonged to. In fact more than 50% of us had crossed over from AG to NCNC to register our displeasure with Awo, but that did not blind us to the larger picture of Awolowo's proposed all-South coalition as we knew that the North was already chanting born to rule and bent on re-colonizing Nigeria afresh through the instrumentality of federal power if they got it. So we did not support Zik's alliance and fraternization with the North. The enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend. How many Igbos cautioned Zik against sacrificing the larger southern interests on the altar of anti-Awolowo vendetta pursuit? Even subsequently in 1979 we of the Midwest put aside our old grouse with Yorubas and voted for UPN in rejection of NPN-NPP coalition of Shagari and Ekweme not because we really loved UPN but because we did not lose sight of the larger Southern interest. Your claim that Igbos supported GEJ in view of the SS/SE unity has a question mark on it. Unlike some other regions Igbos did not hold any public rally to press the Yaradua cabal into handing over to GEJ. Did they? Their support came in after GEJ included Azikiwe in his name and made Ihejirika the COAS. Above all, Boro's case was such that he could not trust Ojukwu again as he was afraid given how Ojukwu tried to kill him and could not simply appologise despite painfully realizing later that Isaac Boro was right after all. Who would join such a person to fight for a common "interest"? |
Ariani:You suggest that Boro should have joined forces with Ojukwu to liberate Biafra? That suggestion is easier said than done. Put yourself in Boro's shoes and see if you can come out of jail and join those who jailed you to fight against those who released you. Let's be practically honest and realistic of what we expect others to do towards us. |
theDEVILisHERE:Why not just give us that "correct" history rather than keep accusing me of twisting history? |
Ariani:Well, Isaac Boro gave so many reasons in his memos as to why he believed Ijaws were being oppressed by Igbos, and Igbo leaders did nothing to address his complaints just as Nigeria is currently doing to the SS. So I find your story's first part quite incredible. The human spirit does not rebel against a system that is just and fair to everyone, hence Boro would not have sought NDR if all you claimed above were true of the relationship between Ijaws and Igbos in the Old Eastern Region. On the second part: I remember you and I have had debates here in which you justified Zik's decision to reject Awolowo's all-south coalition proposal but align with the North to irreversibly enslave the whole South under the North in order to avenge Awolowo's refusal for him to become Western Region Premier earlier on. If Boro was myopic for "sacrificing" the larger picture in seeking for revenge in such manner, then why do you justify Zik's decision to align with the North which equally was a sacrificing of the larger picture in order to avenge Awolowo? |
gidgiddy:I am a Midwesterner and I detest Igbo invasion of the Midwest. You can't claim that Nigeria invaded Biafra because Bifra was not a country but the Eastern region of Nigeria according to Nigeria's constitution. Rather than attack the Midwest Ojukwu should have attacked the Arewa (Northern Region) which attacked his Eastern Region. Nigeria only went to curb an uprising by some rascals in the Eastern Region of its territory. In the eyes of the Nigerian government what Ojukwu too did was like gathering armed men in a market square and reading a declaration act. Ijaws did not ever initially support Biafra as Ojukwu did not consult their elders. How many Ijaws were members of the Eastern Regional assembly which purportedly gave Ojukwu the mandate? The Eastern Region was subject to Nigerian constitution and therefore had no right to seek secession on its own unilaterally. Such was an affront on the Nigerian government under which Ojukwu was. You keep trying to create the impression that Boro did not follow the right channel, but you refuse to tell me why you Igbos are currently in support of Niger Delta Avengers who are doing it exactly the same way as the Isaac Boro you claim did not do it correctly. Can't you smell your people's double standards in all these? If what Isaac Boro did was of no significance due to your alleged lack of mandate, then why did Ojukwu and Ironsi go as far as getting him sentenced to death for an insignificant gathering in a village square? What stopped Ojukwu and Ironsi from inviting Boro for a dialogue? After all Ironsi was busy releasing Northern prisoners, having dialogue with them for peace, releasing or at least massaging the egos of the likes of Nzeogwu, Ifeajuna, Anuforo, etc who even carried out a more rascally coup without any mandate from anyone and thereby putting the whole nation in a turmoil far greater than Isaac Boro's. For the Scotland referendum, the people followed the legal peaceful channel within UK. Why did Ojukwu choose the illegal violent channel? If Ojukwu did not need UN the Isaac Boro too did not need an oficiall mandate from any assembly. |
theDEVILisHERE:Please how did he sell his people into slavery? Who exactly are his people? In actual fact he tried to free his real people from the fraud called "One-Nigeria" but was betrayed by a neighbouring tribe which was still loving "One Nigeria". This "One-Nigeria" people fought him, got him arrested, killed his soldiers and sentenced him to death for trying to pull his people out of "One-Nigeria" fraud. But before they could execute their death sentence on him, they themselves were dethroned and killed. Those who took over power decided to release Boro unconditionally. After that the one-Nigerianists declared secession from Nigeria, and Isaac Boro decided to revenge by fighting against the one Nigerianists who earlier jailed him for the same "offence" of declaring secession. Was that how he betrayed his people and sold them into slavery? If he really sold his people into slavery by avenging Ojukwu's crushing of Niger Delta Republic, then why have his people now decided to honour him by placing his picture on their currency? Stop insulting Isaac Boro, he fought gallantly for his people unlike Zik who kept chanting "One Nigeria" while his brothers were being slaughtered by those he wanted to form his "One Nigeria" with. |
AxeurdaddyIX:You just hit the nail hard on the head. Initially I was elated on reading the headline and seeing the respect accorded to Isaac Boro by putting his image. I was about suggesting that Ken Saro Wiwa's picture be in the next denomination. But on sighting the Pound symbol it appeared hypocritic to me that a people trying to pull out of what they themselves have been calling a British marriage have chosen to retain the marriage ring they got from that British wedding. So sad! |
gidgiddy:Your position woefully fails the test of holistic analysis. If you people knew Boro was only interested in Ijaw Nation, then why hold him back? After all every other tribe in the Niger Delta would have taken. clues from him and equally declared their separate republics thus this fraud called "One Nigeria" would have long ended thus the eventual bloody Civil War would have been avoided. Your claim that Isaac Boro was wrong to have declared a separate country without mandate is very hypocritical in light of your very support for Ojukwu who equally had no such mandate to declare Biafra and include ijaw land in the Biafra map. Which Ijaws gave him the mandate to include them in it? If Ijaws gave him the mandate, then why did they later open up the coast for the federal forces to penetrate the Eastern Region and extricate them (Ijaws) from Biafra soldiers? Which state assembly or regional assembly in Nigeria today has given any mandate to the Niger Delta Avengers current secessionist agitations which you Igbos currently support wholeheartedly and cheerfully? Who in the Midwest Assembly back then gave Ojukwu the mandate to invade the region to "free" them from Hausa-Fulani "domination"? The only legal means to declaring a separate country is to approach the UN for referendum. Anything short of that is violence and illegal, and does not require any mandate as there are no defined procedures for violent approach to secession. Why could Ojukwu, with all his level of education, not set the better example by approaching the UN for referendum if he knew Boro's violent approach was wrong? Why would Isaac Boro not have made a U-turn to fight for one Nigeria and against Biafra when it was "one-Nigeria" that set him free thus preventing the carrying out of the death sentence slammed on him by two Biafrans? Only a monumental ingrate and big fool would come out of prison and join those who jailed him to fight against those who released him. Isaac Boro's case is far better than Ojukwu's case because he alone was killed (whether by Biafra or Federal forces) without any innocent Ijaw civilian being killed along with him. But the "One-Nigeria" which Ojukwu tried to preserve by crushing Boro's Republic later came and wiped out millions of innocent Ojukwu's own brothers right before his very eyes. You can't deny that it would definitely have been better if "One Nigeria" had only killed Ojukwu and spared those million innocent Biafrans. And mind you that for the fact that Ojukwu and Ironsi had already sentence Boro to death before God intervened Ojukwu was therefore as guilty of Boro's death as whoever actually later killed him. If ironsi had not been toppled, he and Ojukwu would have executed Boro. So why are you gloating as if Boro's murder justified Ojukwu's earlier wickedness towards him? |
gidgiddy:First and foremost it takes a confused person inspired by hate to quickly assume that whoever criticizes Ironsi for his rash and misguided decision must be from the SW as if only SW has the skills to analyse issues. Secondly, it takes a victim of moronic plague stung by the bug of blind tribal loyalty to openly and shamelessly still be suggesting that Ironsi's did not destroy federalism with his Unification Decree which was the official statement that first altered the status quo in post-independence Nigeria. If he did not destroy federalism, then what else did he mean by his decree which he himself with his own mouth named and titled "Unification Decree"? Was Ironsi that daft and uneducated not to know what unification meant in the dictionary? A man who in his Unification Decree removed the term "federal" from Nigeria's official name to become merely "Republic of Nigeria" from the former "Federal Republic of Nigeria" obviously meant that the federating units had ceased to exist in functionality terms. The mere fact that the regions were still in "existence" before Ironsi died does not automatically imply federalism because the essential difference between unitary system and federalism is not the total absence of regions or units but the level to which the units or regions are given power over their own affairs without control from the centre. The fact that UK is said to practice unitary system does not mean that UK is not at all divided into smaller units like Sheffield, Nothingham, etc. In Nigeria our regions had more powers devolved on them than the centre before Ironsi came. But Ironsi altered this structure and ordered all "regions" to report to him at the centre. In which true federalism do regions report to the centre? Any system in which the regions report to the centre is nothing but unitary system. It takes an uneducated literate to think otherwise. If Ironsi did not mean to alter the status quo, then why could he not conduct elections or at least allow the deputies of the two slain premiers to be immediately sworn in to replace them in the affected regions but chose to quickly replace them with military officers whom he asked to be reporting to him henceforth? If Ironsi's Unification Decree did not substantially alter the status of the regions, then why were there spontaneous violent riots in the North targeted at Southerners at the announcing of the decree? As one of the ingredients of his evil unification decree he unified the civil service. Now, if not for ulterior motive, what concerned the status quo ante of the civil service with the issue of Awo vs Akintola and Nzeogwu coup which all led to the prevailing political anarchy situation that Ironsi claimed to have come to arrest? If not for a fraudulent motive, why alter the constitution towards a unified civil service when the general public did not demand a constitution review? If Ironsi's Decree 34 did not dismantle the regions, then why did Gowon find it necessary to issue his own Decree 56 which reversed Ironsi's Decree 34? With Decree 56 Gowon almost 100% restored the regions and governed like that for good 11 months before he was forced to start adjusting in order to strategize against Ojukwu's threat. At least we can say Gowon changed back to quasi-unitary due to war expediency. Which expediency made Ironsi change to unitary? Some people ignorantly claim knowledge of history when they are yet to read it into the finest details. Aburi Accord was nothing but a hypocritic pack of afterthoughts because virtually all the demands Ojukwu made there for a very loose federation had already been captured in the memorandum of Anthony Enahoro in the 1957 London conference. Enahoro's demands were delineation of regions along tribal compatibility lines, inclusion of secession clause (confederacy) in order to instill in our future leaders the fear of the consequences of misgovernance, etc; but Azikiwe and his fellow Igbos rejected Enahoro's proposal, called him a tribalist and declared that the unity of "One-Nigeria" was non-negotiable and that federalism or confederacy would elevate tribalism over nationalism. Therefore only a hypocrite would expect all other tribes in Nigeria to support Zik's tribe in their secession bid or quest for a confederacy after they themselves had deprecated all attempts to include it in the constitution earlier on and even labelled as tribalists those who first so demanded. They themselves agitated for "one Nigeria".... a euphemism for unitary system. But after the rest of Nigeria decided to key into their one Nigeria slogan and become "nationalists" like them, the same people started asking for a return to the same true federalism which they said would encourage tribalism. Hypocrites! We can't be subject to their whims and caprices. Must we always dance to their selfish tunes? |
IGBOSON1:No true Niger Deltan or sincere Nigerian would not be miffed by that act of Aguyi Ironsi which ruined and finally buried whatever hope was left for Nigeria to be run on equity and fiscal justice. In addition the same Ironsi crushed Isaac Boro's attempt to pull the Niger Delta out of the fraud called Nigeria. So which sincere Niger Deltan who has taken his time to study how Nigeria got into this mess would you expect to love Ironsi other than the very young and ignorant ones? If the oil struck in 1956 were to have been found in Ironsi's father's compound in Umuahia would he have dismantled federalism or even tampered with that federal constitution at all? |
daretodiffer:Common sense and visible facts are the back up here. What is fertility? In general geography knowledge is there ever any Sudan Savana vegetation belt more fertile that a tropical rain forest belt? If the North is more fertile than the South then why does the Northern fertile land refuse to yield grass for North's cattle hence the need to bring them to the South in search of pasture? |
FarukuWadata12:The Deadlytruth of the issue is that if not for laziness and skewed thinking on the part of Southerners the North would not have been anywhere near the South in terms of farming and food production as the South is generally more fertile than the North. But because of the miseducation which most Southerners call their being more educated than Northerners, the average Southerner has come to believe that without the North he will not get food to eat. It is only in Nigeria that those who live in the fertile forest regions fear that those who live in the near desert region might punish them with starvation. |
adconline:I don't really blame Northerners because at the earliest stage they made themselves clear that Nigeria would not work and that they were therefore not interested in forming a country with the largely Christian South. Unfortunately some hallucinating southerners kept on dreaming of "one Nigeria" and thus continued to make a case against the North's truthful and realistic position of Nigeria's non-workability. In the end the North was persuaded against her will to remain in Nigeria and they gave the condition that they be allowed to dominate if they must join Nigeria, and the leaders of the South accepted their condition. Agreement is agreement. The South has eaten her cake but wants to have it. |
jerseyboy:Even though the whites created Nigeria for the North's interest, there came a God-given opportunity in 1959 for Southerners to correct that but Some Southerners led by Zik and Ironsi willingly submitted themselves to Hausa-Fulani colonialism in the name of seeking "one Nigeria" and "national unity". That was the point at which the South's slavery under the North became iron cast and irreversible. |
dragonking2:Very intelligent reply! No one is really happy that the Niger Delta areas have been cheated of their God-given resource especially through this unitary system we currently practice. But the annoying Irony is that those who, under the pretext of seeking a fraudulent one-Nigeria, dismantled our federalism and forcefully replaced it with unitary system which made cheating and raping of the Niger Delta possible and last for up to 5 decades now are the very people telling Niger Deltans today to fight for their rights and claiming to be their brothers. Their hypocrisy stinks. |
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It's still a continuation of the status-quo.......just old wine in new skin! I have come to the realization that all the Nigerian elite (Igbo, Yoruba, Hausa/Fulani, Ijaw, etc-etc-etc) have this solidarity between them to keep Nigeria going 'as is', to protect their cosy lifestyle, investments, landed property in Abuja and Lagos, and keep their stolen wealth for their kids and generations yet unborn; also, the southern Nigerian elite -for whatever reason