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Obidikejr:This exactly is the Igbo dishonesty we've been arguing about. You accuse me of turning the thread to tribal bashing? Are you claiming you did not see where your Igbo brother started the tribal bashing by the comment below on page (0) of the thread? Please read it here and honestly judge who turned the thread tribal. by Expensivewarrio: 2:09pm On Jun 03 "Well, when one refuses to see beyond its nose, think of the future and not present and apply common sense, regret is always the result afterwards. Had these people seen what Ojukwu saw pre 1966 they will not be in this pitiable and pathetic condition. They would've apply that saying; "the devil (Ig.bos) u know is better than the angel (Nigeria) u don't know." Now he was insulting Ogonis to feed the ego of igbos. Why? |
princejayboss:Why can't you just give us that your own "correct" version of history to prove me wrong and "correctly" guide the new generation? We never really wanted a new nation, so we can't be accused of not fighting for what we never really wanted. All we wanted was a Nigeria characterised by true federalism and resource control which we initially had but was dismantled by Igbos. |
kelechi17:Just read your first line and last line above. So you are one with an Ode? Then who are you too? Igbos get angry at the mention of an exclusively SS Republic, and they claim the Yorubas and Hausas are the ones brainwashing the SS. That alone is a way of using blackmail to force the SS into Biafra. It is an insult on us. |
ibleed:Do you really know what "One Nigeria" means? There are two categories of it. There is the genuine One Nigeria proposed by an Edo man-Enahoro, and there is the fraudulent one proposed by Zik. It is the fraudulent one I am speaking against here as an Edo person. |
63xtr63r:But Zik pioneered it all by his self enrichment with the funds of Africa Development Bank as early as in the forties. He was the first Nigerian to be indicted of corruption and by the colonial masters themselves. The rest are Orji Uzor Kalu, Chimaroke Nnamani, Andy Ubah (Dollars in presidential Jet scandal), etc. |
dragonking2:Power could be very sweet. Immediately God gave them the raw and absolute military power to declare their republic, rather than quickly use it for that purpose, they solidified their one-Nigeria sloganeering. But after they lost power the story changed. It became impossible to break away. Power is very transient. |
@63Xtr63r, The mere fact your moniker is just a jumble of unpronounceable digits and alphabets is enough testimonial to your sorry state. You have consistently refused to tell us the wretched and erosion ravaged village and inconsequential subdivision of the Igbo tribe you come from for us to compare with Unemeh. Are you not proud of your juju-infested and Otokoto shrines populated and miserable harmlet unrecognized even by the most detailed map of google? You have written a million lines of trash and incoherence here but have not been able to spare a line to tell us the name of your harmlet which is most likely to have more Otokoto shrines than humans. Daft hypocrite like you! It is very obvious you reside in Lagos, Kano or Äbuja where you make your daily living but keep deriding the tribes who have provided you an abode away from you miserable and erosion ravaged and uninhabitable Igbo village. You want Biafra but you are living and intermarrying with the very peoples you call ass lickers when actually you are their ass liking slave and guest. In your unquenchable thirst after the SS' oil you Igbos have made yourselves willing slaves of the SS. The wish of the SS is now your command. When SS says "stop" you stop. When SS says "walk" you even run. It is a pity that a people who are a major ethnic group in Nigeria have so lost it all that they have become subservient and obsequious to a group of previously insignificant minorities. Uneme-Nekhua is an integral part of the SS to whom you Igbos have willingly submitted themselves as slaves. So Uneme people are your superiors now. When we hold meetings with other SS ethnic nationalities and come out with any position our Igbo slaves must obey and act out our scripts. We put GEJ forward and Ironically you all voted for him slavishly even more than the votes he got from us. Your slavery to us SS now is such that you carpet your own fellow Igbos who contest against us. The SS (including unemes) is glad to have you as slaves after Hausas and Yorubas used and dumped you. The Igbo nation is clearly a defeated one. Igbos have become the arse lickers of the SS just because they (Igbos) want an undeserved freedom from their Hausa-Fulani masters. In your blind quest for an unrealistic one Nigeria you first licked the arses and anuses of Arewanistan. Led by your Zik you first witch hunted Yorubas to please your Arewanistan masters. You caused crisis in the Western Region, killed Yorubas and jailed Awolowo just to please your Hausa-Fulani masters of Bello and Balewa. But after you failed to impress the Arewanistan with all your collusion with them against Yorubas and SS or get the one-Nigeria you so much dreamt of against reality, the very hausa Fulani whose anuses you licked began to slaughter you as a gift for your moronic licking of their anuses. Then you ran over to Yorubas and started licking Yorubas' arses and anuses all in the name of seeking a wartime alliance against your former Hausa-Fulani masters. All that while you were witch hunting the SS by jailiing Isaac Boro, jailing Enahoro, Killing Okotie Eboh, But Yorubas had not forgiven you but knew that you ran to seek refuge in them from the same Arewanistan in whose interest you had pummelled them. So they ditched you and left you in the cold during the war the same way you left them too in the cold in 1959 and married the Arewanistan through NPC-NCNC alliance. The Arewanistan crushed you in the War. In 1979 you went again to marry Arewanistan (NPN-NPP) hoping that such would afford you the power to take vengeance on Yorubas, but it failed as Arewa soldiers sacked that Arewa-Biafra government again. Then in 1999 you again coaleased with Arewa in PDP. While all the above lasted you Igbos did not see the SS as significant. But it was after both Arewa and Yorubas repeatedly fooled you and tossed you to and fro between themselves that you ran over to the same SS you had always despised. Now you worship SS and lick our arses. But we will allow you lick our anuses much longer than you did that of Arewa and Oodua put together before we kick you out when we are satisfied that our arses have been thoroughly licked clean enough by your sycophantic and boastful tongues. Just watch and see what happens after we finish using you to get back our federalism and resource control which Ironsi dismantled. We will use you Ironsi's brothers to get back what Ironsi took from us. The strange feature of Igbo brand of enslavement is that they are not coerced into it but it is willingly done by them. They willingly submitted themselves to Hausa-Fulani in 1959, willingly submitted themselves to Yoruba man OBJ at the expense of their own Ekweme in PDP in 1998, and now they have out of their own free will submitted wholeheartedly to slavery under SS. And such people claim they want a separate republic? How can willing slaves be asking for freedom? It does not make sense. Igbos can't do without the SS their newest slave masters. At the mere mention of a republic exclusively SS, Igbos start fuming, crying and gnashing their dirty teeth for fear of being left behind with Arewanistan. It is really great that Southern minorities now control, command and determine the fate and future of a major ethnic group in Nigeria. You are the one already crying blood and sputum that the SS will abandon you with your old ally- Arewanistan. Igbos are the real parasites in Nigeria. They have invaded every nook and cranny of the country the way parasitic germs invade and spread over the host. Yet Igbo land contributes practically nothing to national treasury. That is why they find it difficult to stay back and develop their land. Only cursed hypocrites would claim they developed everywhere else while their own home is in squalor and reeking of underdevelopment. They are like swarms of flies buzzing all over every other region except theirs. The only tribe in the whole world whose population in diaspora is more than that at home. it is an indication that they are more comfortable outside home thus their homeland is barren and unfriendly to even they themselves. They prefer to be slaves outside home than to remain kings in their own home. A major tribe whose members hawk gala, soft drinks, plantain chips, roasted cashew nuts, etc under sun and rain in the streets of Lagos, Abuja, Kano, PH, Benin, Warri, Oshogbo, Ibadan, Yenagoa, Calabar, Illorin, etc. Which other tribe comes to hawk these things in the streets of Aba, Onitsha, Enugu and Owerri? Scums of the earth! The man you quoted as claiming that Edo is not Niger Delta save for the constitution is himself not Niger Delta because we know the Niger Estuary does not cover the Igboid parts of the SS. Ben Gbulie's account of the coup makes it clear that at the planning stage none of the targeted politicians in the hit list was assigned to any Yoruba or Northern accomplice but all to Igbos. Yet this fool is busy pursuing the futility of using all his weak links to establish that it was a nationalistic coup. Your revisionism can't wash it away. Nzeogwu made it clear that the mainland Igbos among them had a tribal agenda up their sleeves. I guess you'll call Nzeogwu a Yoruba or Bini man for indicting Igbos. You claim that the coup was staged against the Behemoths in power who were using their might to make loopsided appointments and allocations of resources. Very watery arguement! Were Zik, and Okpara not among those Behemoths? Then why were they spared by the core Igbos? Crooks! After telling you that the coup was an Igbo coup not by the composition of members but by the manner of execution, you keep re-posting your endless list of hundreds of Yorubas and Northerner participants as if that changes the fact that only none Igbos ended up being killed while no Igbo lost his life. Why not furnish me with an equally long list of Igbos who were killed by the Jan 15 1966 coupists if you are sincere and honest? Nzeogwu himself declared that they were just five in number. All the rest names in that fraudulent list of yours were inferior officers who were commanded to the scenes by Nzeogwu and were merely taking orders from Nzeogwu their superior. The could not disobey Nzeogwu even if they wished to. The Sgt. Oyeleke who tried it was gunned down immediately by Nzeogwu. Who else would not value his life to dare Nzeogwu again? The other foolish response you Igbos give to this demand of a list of slain Igbos in the Jan 15 coup is to quickly claim that the coup was meant to release Awo and make him prime minister. How does that answer the question? If the core Igbos in the plot really so loved Awolowo and were angered by his imprisonment then why did they not kill the Zik who colluded with the North to imprison him? Fraudsters! A report in the national archives has it that after successfully breaking into Balewa's residence Ifeajuna and Okafor stopped communicating in English with each other but switched over to Igbo. That was obviously aimed at preventing the other junior non-Igbo officers whom they forced to go along with them from knowing their ulterior motive which was the Igbo agenda. The same Ifeajuna tipped Zik off before the day of action and when he arrived Enugu he only paid Okpara (another one of the Behemoths) a courtesy visit before fleeing to Ghana. Yet this nonentity keeps claiming it was a nationalistic coup! You are now shedding crocodile tears over the massacre of Igbo civilians in the revenge coup of July 1966? I thought you said Igbos are brave? Why could they not stop their own massacre by their bravery but had to later go and seek support for secession from the "cowardly" Yorubas? You foolishly ask why the counter coupists transferred their annoyance on Igbo civilians in the streets rather than just eliminate the top Igbo political class. Very poor question! Most of the top Igbo politicians had escaped from sight after being spared by Ifeajuna and co. Now, why did the Igbo coupists of Jan 15 transfer their anger with the politicians on innocent military officers like Maimalari, shodehinde, Ademulegun, etc? You think an innocent civilian's life is more sacred than an innocent military officer's life before God or men? And to worsen the issue those Igbo guys spared some of the guilty civilians like Zik and Okpara while killing innocent military officers like Maimalari and the rest. Why middle-beltern civilians were not massacred as a result of the Dimka coup were that; 1. Dimka was immediately caught and executed by Obasanjo thus all frayed nerves calmed unlike Ironsi who protected the Igbo boys and even started transferring them to eastern prisons and after six months counting he refused to punish the plotters. 2. Unlike Igbos who celebrated the Jan 15 1966 coup in the streets and markets of Kaduna just like how you have severally praised Nzeogwu, Ifeajuna and Okafor for bravery in your comments here, the Middle-belters did not jump into the streets to celebrate Dimka's action. They were sober and mournful. But Igbos and spirit of vicious triumphalism! I know fools like you claim six months were not enough for Ironsi to apprehend and execute the Jan 15 coupists. However the same Ironsi took less than 3 months to apprehend, arrest and have Adaka Boro's case pursued from the high court to the Supreme court which convicted him of treason and sentenced him to death. Yes Adaka Boro was not Igbo so he was quickly tried and sentenced by the ironsi Jaunta. Igbos are smart indeed! They are really good business men! You also wonder why ironsi did not deserve death and you credit him with peace making. Very puerile of you. A peacemaker who got Boro sentenced to death for declaring s separate republic but was treating with kid gloves his own brothers who killed innocent men, pregnant women and unborn babies in cold blood. A man of peace who dismantled federalism against the public interest. A man of peace who began to tamper with the constitution when the public did not demand constitution review. A man of peace who kept Enahoro, Awolowo, etc in jail while releasing Northern prisoners and negotiating with them. So much for a man of peace! You also wonder why Yorubas were not wiped out as a result of Diya Coup? Then I ask you how many Yorubas flew into the streets to celebrate Diya's coup in the North the way Igbos celebrated Nzeogwu's coup right inside Kaduna streets and markets? No other tribe celebrates or identify with the unwholesome things done by their own members. You. People's arrogant, overbearing and domineering greed is too disgusting and that's what inspires the hatred every other tribe has for you. Even the Igboid groups in the SS have a completely different attitude, and that's why other tribes find it cool to relate with Aniomas and Ikwerres very freely. Aniomas living in Benin are very warm, homely, calm, diplomatic, rational and down to earth. There are some really very humble, diplomatic and rational SE Igbos anyway, but are however too few in comparison with the whole. You mentioned so many Yorubas who fought on the side of Biafra but you people keep claiming Yorubas betrayed you. Then how? Did Ojukwu not later kill some of those Yorubas? If you were not a slowpoke you would have long realized that as long as Igbos make it look as if the Southern minorities have no God-given right to seek their own country separate from Biafra, then Biafra too has no God-given right to seek a separate country from Nigeria. You call other tribes treasury looters? An Igbo man, Azikiwe, was the first treasury looter in Nigeria's history. He was indicted of fraudulent managing of the Africa Development Bank by the colonial authorities. Also an Igbo man, Ironsi, was the one who centralized the treasury thus making it easier to loot larger sums more easily from it. Himself obviously wanted to loot from it but was killed by Arewa before he could dip his hands. You Igbos remain the perpetual slaves of Arewa and Yorubas. You started taking courses in Hausa and Fulfude languages since 1959 when you entered into the NPC-NCNC alliance. Remember Zik could speak all of Yoruba, Hausa and Fulfude. So with Okpara. Ekweremadu has just zoned PDP ticket to Arewanistan to feature him (an Igbo) as the junior slave partner and running mate to Saraki. Remember Ojukwu returned from exile and joined NPN the Arewanistan party. When an Arewanistani (IBB) took PDP ticket away from Ekweme and gave it to an Oduduwa descendant (OBJ), rather than protest you Biafrans all bowed and shouted "Ranka Dede" Mallam. And you call others slaves and arse lickers of Arewa when you yourself have so licked their arses to colourless and are now licking that of the SS. You will continue to worship the SS till federalism and resource control return. You will continue to tremble and cry over the prospect of a southern minorities country without Biafra. Parasitic gold diggers that have stuck to the SS like ticks just because of oil. |
IN CONCLUSION: Igbos are subject of hate in this country, apparently due to wrong perception, but I personally think Igbos are cool like any other tribe, and bad like any other tribe too. Though my main problem with them is that, they never admit their flaws no matter how glaring but they are always quick to lampoon the slightest folly of other tribes. If you want to be successful economically, think like Igbos! —–By Dennis, Rivers State.[/quote]The fact that you referenced the speech above in your attempt to mystify Igbos lays it bare that you are very unintelligent. In comprehension and summary it is said that the conclusion of a write up carries the ultimate message. This Dennis ended the story by claiming that Igbos never admit their own flaws however glaring but are quick to see the fault of others. In other words he simply means Igbos are dishonest and thus see the spec in other people's eyes through the log of wood covering their own eyes. Is that not exactly the point I have been making on this thread as to how Igbos ruined themselves and Nigeria but see the blame in everyone else? He implies clearly that Igbos are hypocrites and unreliable. And we know that hypocrisy is a the most disgusting quality in anyone. The only sin which made Jesus curse people is the sin of hypocrisy. Am I not vindicated now on my insistence that Igbos are cursed? This Ogoni man just finished you completely and you quoted him. Of course this Ogoni man had in mind the hypocrisy of Igbos in their mocking of Saro Wiwa for crushing Biafra after Igbos themselves crushed Saro Wiwa's Niger Delta Republic earlier on. If he, as an Ogoni man, is really comfortable with his own verdict that Igbos hypocrisy and dishonesty driven business acumen is actually tolerable by him, then why did he not suggest in his write up that he would therefore love to find himself in a Biafra Republic made up of Igbos and Ogonis alone? When will you start reading write ups in between the lines before you quote them? |
At one instance you claim Rivers. At another you claim Delta. Then where exactly do you belong? But I guess you're from Enugu where Fulani herdsmen have just slaughtered you again in large numbers yet rather than fight back you ran here to transfer aggression to the tribes who did not kill you. It shows how lily livered you are? Go to Enugu and kill the Fulanis and eat their flesh if you know you are brave. If you were intelligent you would have by your claim that your are from the Niger Delta areas not added by the constitution known that you just mocked Akwa Ibom and Cross River you have been claiming to love. If you were smart you'll not miss the fact that even in the three core Niger Delta states the Niger Estuary does not entirely cover any of those states. The Anioma part of Delta is not really within the Estuary any more than the Sapele area or Ndoni part of Rivers is within it. Before Bendel and old Rivers got split these two states were called the core Niger Delta states not because they were entirely covered by the estuary but because the Estuary was part of them So tagging a state or Region as being of the Niger Delta has more to do with the ethnic nationalities in those states/Regions than the estuary itself. Please return to school. In your fraudulent claim to be an Urhobo man from Delta you tried to mock Edo by asking when last Adesuwa sent Western Union home. Only a fool and impostor like you would not know that the quest for living and working overseas is an entire Edo/Delta thing which they both refer to as "Jand" in local parlance. No genuine Deltan mocks Edo for overseas travel and vice versa. And you have forgotten that Igbos who travel overseas don't do legal jobs like Edos and Deltans but are languishing in foreign jails for drug trafficking. How many Edos/Deltans have you ever heard were caught with hard drugs at MMIA the way it is with Igbos? Also, your insinuation that the splitting of Bendel into Edo and Delta was an indication of internal rivalry. Only an ignoramus and impostor would not know that the Edo part were even the ones who first submitted a memorandum demanding the split despite the oil fields down in the Delta areas. Ask a genuine Deltan you know and he'll confirm it. We are not Igbos who have stuck to the SS states because of oil. We believe in our fertile lands and other solid minerals and our largest gas deposits in Nigeria. Deltans who are professional farmers come over to Edo state to farm because of our fertile ferratic soil over their relatively infertile marine type. So Edo and Delta complement each other and you can't really separate them. If the killing of Ahmadu Bello was an act of bravery meant to redeem Igbos, then the Zik and Okpara who sold Igbos to Hausa-Fulani should have been the first target by any people who genuinely came to kill to free Igbos from Hausa/Fulani domination. The Jan. 1966 coup was an Igbo coup not by the composition of the planners but by the manner of execution of it. The mere fact that Abacha's regime had Igbos and some Yorubas in his cabinet did not detract from my fact that Abacha's government was aimed at furthering the interest of the Northern Oligarchy. The Hausas who planned the counter coup have long accepted that it was a Hausa coup but our Jews have refused to confess that theirs was an Igbo coup. The original planners of the Jan 1966 coup (Ifeajuna, Nwobosi and Okafor) were all Igbos, and their genuine intention was to kill people of all other tribes except Igbos. They only brought in Nzeogwu, Ademoyega and some Northerners just 3 months to the D-day and sold to them the dummy that it was a nationalistic course. But while assigned targeted politicians they made sure that Zik and Okpara were not assigned to the newly recruited accomplices (Nzeogwu, Ademoyega and the Northern guys) but assigned them to Ifeajuna who would pretend to be going to kill them but later tactically spare them and find artificial excuses to explain it away. And so it really happened. Below are the words of Nzeogwu himself after realising that the three Core Igbos fooled him: Happy reading; Another nugget from Nigerian history. This is thetext of Major Chukwuma Kaduna Nzeogwu’sfamous interview with Dennis Ejindu in May 1967. This interview took place just before the start of the civil war. It is probably the most detailed question and answer session with Major Nzeogwu. Enjoy…. Ejindu: I am glad to meet you, Sir. How would you feel if you knew that you are being regarded as a hero? Nzeogwu: Very pleased naturally. But the truth is that I am not a hero. If there was any famous Major Nzeogwu, I have never heard of him. Ejindu: It is rumoured that you have just finished writing a book, what is it like? Nzeogwu: Good gracious! Ninety-nine per cent of all the stories you hear in this country are false. I have not written any book because there was nothing to write about. You can only write about a finished job. It would have been a useful means of warding off boredom though, but one did not do it for the fear that the authorities might seize the papers. However I had enough time to make detailed notes on what happened, and one might use them if in future there was any need to write something. Ejindu: Before you went into prison, the cloud was so clear above this country that one could see very far into the future. Now that you are out, what do you see? Nzeogwu: A job very badly done. If I may borrow your metaphor, the atmosphere is admittedly somewhat cloudy. But I don’t think there will be rain. Indeed if you look steadily up you will find that the sun is not yet set and might still peep through. The trouble is that people generally can’t tell which is a rain cloud and which is not, and as a result they tend to be confused. As you know there is too much bitterness at present in the country, and in the past people had imagined that they could conveniently do without one another. But the bitterness will clear in the end and they will find that they are not as self-reliant as they had thought. And they will long to be together…. The same applies to the Northerners. It may take ten or fifteen years for them to come together again but there is no doubt, as far as I can see, that they will. You see, in this world of imperfection, it is sometimes very difficult to capture the ideal. But we can, at least start with the second best. Ejindu: What is the second best? Nzeogwu: A Confederation. Ejindu: Before I come back to that, may 1 take you back to January, 1966. What exactly happened at Nassarawa (the premier’s residence at Kaduna) on the night of the 14th? Nzeogwu: No, no, no; don’t ask me anything about that, I don’t want to remember it. Ejindu: All right. A lot has been talked and written about the January coup. But how tribalistic was it really in conception and execution? Nzeogwu: In the North, no. In the South, yes. We were five in number, and initially we knew quite clearly what we wanted to do. We had a short list of people who were either undesirable for the future progress of the country or who by their positions at the time had to be sacrificed for peace and stability. Tribal considerations were completely out of our minds at this stage. But we had a set-back in the execution. Both of us in the North did our best. But the other three who were stationed in the South failed because of incompetence and misguided considerations in the eleventh hour. The most senior among them was in charge of a whole brigade and had all the excuse and opportunity in the world to mobilize his troops anywhere, anyhow and any time. He did it badly. In Lagos, even allowing for one or two genuine mistakes, the job was badly done. The Mid-West was never a big problem. But in the East, our major target, nothing practically was done. He and the others let us down. Ejindu: You must have anticipated that Gen. Ironsi would let you down in the end. Why did you surrender to him the way you did? Nzeogwu: I was being sensible. The last thing we desired was unnecessary waste of life. If I had stuck to my guns there would have been a civil war, and as the official head of the Army, he would have split the loyalty of my men. Again, you must remember that the British and other foreigners were standing by to help him. Our purpose was to change our country and make it a place we could be proud to call our home, not to wage war. Ejindu: It has been said that Gen. Ironsi set out to complete your job for you. Was there anything you did not like in his administration? Nzeogwu: Yes, everything. First he chose the wrong advisers for the work he halfheartedly set out to do. Most of them were either mediocre or absolutely unintelligent. Secondly, he was tribalistic in the appointment of his governors. Thirdly the Decree 34 was unnecessary, even silly in fact. Ejindu: But you wanted a unitary government? Nzeogwu: No. Not a unitary government as such. We wanted to see a strong centre. We wanted to cut the country to small pieces, making the centre inevitably strong. We did not want to toy with power, which was what he did. Ejindu: Tell me, what do you think of him as a soldier? Nzeogwu: I am afraid I cannot tell you that. But I will say that as a person he was very well liked and as the Supreme Commander, his orders were promptly carried out. Ejindu: If he joined the Army as a gunner, he must have progressed as a military strategist? Nzeogwu: Yes, if he had, he could have done so. But he actually joined the Army as a tally-clerk and was a clerk most of the time. Ejindu: From the present chaos, what type of Nigeria do you envisage? Nzeogwu: In the first place, secession will be ill-advised, indeed impossible. Even if the East fights a war of secession and wins, it still cannot secede. Personally, I don’t like secession and if this country disintegrates, I shall pack up my things and go. In the present circumstances, confederation is the best answer as a temporary measure. In time, we shall have complete unity. Give this country a confederation and, believe me, in ten or fifteen years the young men will find it intolerable, and will get together to change it. And it is obvious we shall get a confederation or something near it. Nothing will stop that. Ejindu: Do you think there will be any war? Nzeogwu: No. Nobody wants to fight. The East which is best equipped and best prepared for war, does not want to attack anybody. The North cannot fight. And Lagos cannot fight now. If they had attacked the East in August or September, they would have had a walk-over. Today, I think they will be ill-advised to try. Ejindu: An Englishman said to me the other day that the best thing Ojukwu can do is to take over Lagos. Do you think he can do it even if he wanted to? Nzeogwu: Yes, I think the East is strong enough to do it if they want to. But it will serve no useful purpose. It can only serve to destroy life and property. You see, the effective power does not lie in Lagos but in Kaduna, and if you remove Gowon somebody else will take his place. If you capture the South against the North, all you can achieve is civil war, disintegration and border clashes. Ejindu: Finally, let me come to the controversy over your release. Much as it has been a popular action you have been released by the east government against the wish of the federal government. What do you say to that? Nzeogwu: All I can say is that I am happy and grateful to be out. We feel grateful to the Nsukka students for their persistent demand, and to the boys in the barracks for their pressure on the authorities in the east. And to the Nigerian public in general for their concern over our welfare. Now, note where Nzeogwu said Ironsi's decree 34 was silly, accused Ironsi of being unintelligent, accused him of being tribalistic in his appointments and being insincere in the work he set out to do; and also accused Ifejuna, Okafor and Nwobosi of showing tribal sympathy to the Easterner targets (Zik and Okpara). This is right from the horse's mouth. Nzeogwu was not Yoruba, Hausa, Edo, Urhobo, Ijaw, Uneme to warrant the accusation that he spoke against Ironsi and Ifeajuna and co due to tribal hatred. He was an Anioma man whom Igbos claim are their brothers. He spoke the Deadlytruth. Yet you who were probably not born then keep denying the Igboness coup despite its clearly Igbo driven manner of execution. You keep saying Uneme's are insignificant but you are obviously upset by the analysis coming from an Uneme person that you have kept on replying him. You need drugs. Bia is an integral part of WaZoBia and is more appositioned to Zo for Arewanistan. Your alliances with Arewanistan has been at regular intervals of 20 years (1959, 1979, 1999 and 2019). You are therefore the perpetual and eternal slaves f Hausas. Ekweremadu your brother will fly PDP flag as a junior slave partner to Saraki or Lamido currently in jail. As I have told you, all your rantings, links and videos here are futile attempts to draw attention away from the fact that Igbos merely reaped the whirlwind from the wind they sowed. Granted that four years after enslaving yourself to Arewanistans through your NPC-NCNC alliance you had come back to your senses and realised that it was a very naïve and self-destructive decision to have ever gone into marriage with Ahmadu Bello. However, being in a democracy, a sensible people would not have resorted to lopsided bloodshed as a means of correcting their mistake. They should have rather sought new political alliances to flush the North out of power through the ballot box. If at all they must kill to reverse their own enslavement, then they should have killed only the Zik and Okpara who sold them out and were still prepared to. But Ironically these were exactly the persons they spared but killed all others. What a people! And you wanted Isaac Boro and Saro Wiwa and indeed the entire Ijaws to believe in co-founding a separate country with such people? You must be dreaming! You murdered sleep and you shall sleep no more. |
63xtr33r:Ahmadu Bello made that speech in 1952 in which he correctly defined Igbos. Did Ahmadu Bello lie about Igbos in that video? Unfortunately, 7 years after he made that speech in which he so derided Igbos, Zik and Okpara decided to lead Igbos into forming the NPC-NCNC alliance with him thereby handing power over to him on a platter of gold. So whose fault was it that Igbos used their own hands to enslave themselves under a man who made it known that he never loved them and was ready to kill them? That action alone shows that Igbos are the only willing slaves and ass lickers of Arewanisatan. Remember that Hausas had already killed thousands of Igbos in 1945 and 1953 yet in 1959 Igbos went into a governing coalition which freely gave power to the same Hausas who had been slaughtering them. And in that coalition Igbos accepted to be junior slave partners whereas Awolowo offered them a coalition in which they would be the senior partners but they rejected it claiming they wanted national unity. Only a cursed people would freely and willingly accept to go into a coalition as junior slave partners with the very people who have always murdered them and made it known they had no regrets about it. Now if Hausas therefore later slaughtered millions of Igbos in 1967 were they not justified? When they had no executive power they slaughtered you in thousands and you were not pained. Then later with your own hands you gave executive power to them to slaughter you the more and they did just exactly that. How was that the fault of Unemes? Was it Unemes that placed that curse of foolishness and self enslavement on you people? Ahmadu Bello himself must have wondered how stupid a southern tribe could be to give him raw executive power after they heard him declare that the North was born to rule and subdue the South. And you tell me Igbos are not cursed? Take a look at today; the NW region of Ahmadu Bello whom Zik gave power over the South now has 7 states and the most numerous LGAs and the lion share of federal allocation in Nigeria while the SE region of Igbos who gave him that power now has 5 states and the fewest LGAs in Nigeria thus suffers lean federal allocation from based on the unitary system introduced by Ironsi. INEC also gave you people the least population figure. That is the result of self enslavement. Penny wise pound foolish. My own Region has six states and more LGAs than SE which held us back from breaking away from Ziks "One-Nigeria" fraud. Keep speaking accusing us of killing Aniomas while Aniomas themselves keep telling you that they have always been with us and never in the Eastern Region. The ghosts of the over 700 Edos your Biafra soldiers murdered in cold blood and dumped in the Abudu section of River Ossioma, the ghosts of the teenage Benin City girls your Biafran soldiers raped and defiled and the ghost of Okotie-Eboh whom your Ifeajuna killed in cold blood on unsubstantiated allegations of corruption but spared Zik the confirmed originator of corruption in Nigeria, etc will continue to haunt you and make it impossible for Biafra to materialise. The same you who call yorubas liars and unreliable people are now profusely quoting Osundefender, a Yoruba, tabloid to substantiate your claims on Isaac Boro, and also referencing a book written by the same OBJ whom you call a treacherous Arewanistan slave to solidify your points. Can you see that you are really confused? So despite all the intelligence you ascribe to Ojukwu, Zik, Achebe, Okpara, etc; you could not find a book written by just one of them to reference but found reference in Osundefender and OBJ's book which are written by the very yorubas you claim are dull wicked, full of falsehood and given to propaganda? You seriously need help. Isaac Boro and Saro Wiwa never saw themselves as Biafrans. So your insinuation that they were Biafrans who betrayed their own fellow Biafran (Ojukwu) is at best dishonest and self serving. Isaac Boro is more likely to have died in the hands of Biafran soldiers. Obasanjo's accounts are always full of distortions. His recent book "My Watch" is full of lies about what happened between 1999 and 2007. So only a confused person like him will waste money buying OBJ's book which I believe you did. Who killed Isaac Boro is not as important as who prevented him from having his Niger Delta Republic. If Ojukwu and Ironsi had allowed him have it he would not have later been killed by Biafra soldiers or Federal forces. As long as Ojukwu himself intended to kill him before God intervened, Ojukwu is as guilty of his death as whoever later really killed him. However Isaac Boro's case far was better than Ojukwu's case because Isaac Boro was killed alone without the massacre of innocent Ijaw civilians alongside. But Ojukwu had millions innocent of Igbo civilians killed before his very eyes by the very "One-Nigeria" which he earlier tried to please by arresting Isaac Boro and betraying his Niger Delta Republic. Even Ojukwu himself would have preferred that "One-Nigeria" killed him alone and spared those millions of innocent Igbos than the other way round in which it really happened. Igbos therefore still have the bigger lesson to learn about betrayal. If Boro's declaration of NDR was wrong to warrant Ojukwu's crushing of it, then why are you Igbos not now crushing Niger Delta Avengers now who have only continued from where Boro was stopped by Ojukwu? Rather you Biafrans are even seeking to partner with them for synergy. Is that not an afterthought? A tribe oF afterthinkers! I thought you people said it is a crime for the Niger Delta to seek its own sovereignty separate from Biafra? Now that NDA is seeking a purely Niger Delta Republic devoid of Biafra, which Hausa or Yoruba man can you accuse again as being responsible for poisoning their minds to exclude Igbos from their NDR map as currently being drawn by them? Alamiyesegha might have said that Yorubas and Hausas are Ijaws' enemies. But he did not add that Igbos are their friends either. In that speech he was silent on Igbos not because he loved Igbos or did not know that Igbos dismantled the federalism and forcefully introduced the unitary system which enslaved the Ijaws under Hausas but because he wanted to sound politically correct in the ears of Igbos. As a SS PDP politician he wanted to demonstrate passive gratitude to Igbos for their self-centred support for GEJ. Have you forgotten that the same Alams eulogized OBJ and IBB to high heavens while all was still well within PDP and between him and OBJ? Above all Ijaws could not really have regarded Alams as their voice because he stole Ijaws blind and disgraced them internationally as Bayelsa governor and they themselves impeached him. Only Igbos accept such characters as their voices. If Igbos could start calling Saraki and Fayose their sons, then it tells you how easily deceived Igbos are. Any Tom Dick and Harry can speak for Igbos. Fayose now speaks for them. Even my very poor, insignificant and humble self can speak for them if I want to. It is just a matter of me buying a tiny space in Punch Newspaper and using it to direct just one or two insults at Tinubu or Buhari and I will become Igbos' messiah immediately since they are cursed to be easily fooled. Zik was born and brought up in the Northern Region, and he was a native of the Eastern Region. Ordinarily one would therefore have expected him to first seek premiership of his own Eastern Region where he hailed from or seek that of Northern Region where he was brought up and more popular. But because he was under the influence of the curse upon Igbos he went to start seeking premiership of the Western Region where he was neither from nor grew up. Why could his charity not start from home? Only a cursed people begin their charity from outside home. There were many other non-yoruba tribes in the Western Region who had equal stakes with Yorubas as to premiership. Those other tribes were yet to produce premier in their own region too yet a complete outsider and cursed intruder was placing himself as a higher stake holder ahead of them by seeking premiership over them in the name of one Nigeria? After securing their own region for themselves they set out trying to conquer and re-colonize other peoples region with the "One-Nigeria" subterfuge. Thieves! Whatever he felt he had in stall for the Western Region, his people back at home needed it more. And come to think of it; he would have simply ruined the Western Region had he clinched their premiership. How much was he able to do for the Eastern Region when he later went back home to seek and fraudulently clinch Eastern premiership? Benue State was part of Southern protectorate as at 1900 till the 1950s when it was excised into the Northern Region from the supposed Eastern Region. While that was happening the Zik who should have been leading the fight against the carving of Benue into the Northern Region was far away in Ibadan crying that he was not allowed to become premier and complaining of being marginalized in a place where he had no stake. If that was not the manifestation of a curse, what else was it? |
tomakint:How did you arrive at the conclusion that Ojukwu had a defined vision for Biafra while Isaac Adaka Boro hadn't any for his own Niger Delta Republic? If Isaac Boro really hadn't his people's support then what informed the placing of Adaka Boro's picture on the recently released Niger Delta Pound by the Niger Delta Avengers currently seeking the Sovereign state of Niger Delta? The truth is that Adaka Boro is highly revered among Ijaws and across the SS. If he declared Niger Delta Republic against the wishes of the Ijaws and Southern minorities generally, then how come he earns their reverence even in his grave? Why is it that the NDAs' website's main catchphrase is "The spirit of Adaka Boro lives on"? Let's stop denying obvious facts. And if Ojukwu actually based his Biafra declaration on his people's support and approval as you would have us believe, then who in the then Midwest gave him the approval and support to invade and even occupy Benin City, Warri, Sapele, Auchi, Igarra, Lampese and other Midwestern towns with Biafran troops? Why could his troops not simply and quietly transit through the Midwest to their major and Original destination of Lagos knowing fully well that they had no Midwesterner's mandate to occupy the region and conquer it? Or did any Midwesterner try to obstruct Biafran troops advancement to Lagos to warrant Ojukwu's decision to crackdown on them by ruthlessly taking over the region as he did? No single Midwest civilian or soldier tried that. In fact if Ojukwu's troops had just used Midwest for the purpose of transit alone and therefore had headed straight to Lagos that very day, he would have won the war without civilian casualties as he would have caught Gowon napping, much less prepared than how he became after Biafran troops had wasted time in Benin thereby giving Lagos enough time to strategize, and less combat ready so that Lagos would have been on the defensive and in disarray from day one. But the occupation of and waste of time in Benin over which he received no mandate to occupy, gave Gowon enough space and time to organize a very effective offensive which landed Ojukwu on the defensive throughout the war and led to his crushing defeat. Ojukwu was driven by the desire to subdue, conquer and coerce the minorities into Biafra and not by any approval per se of any civilian population. Ojukwu's unilateral invasion and conquest of the Midwest obviously contributed to Isaac Boro's fear of what Ijaws fate would be in a new Republic ruled by such a man, hence Boro's refusal to be part of Biafra. He who wears the shoe knows where it pinches. |
tomakint:The Eastern Command of Nigerian troops under Ojukwu's command as Eastern Region military governor attacked Boro and fought the 12 day war against him. If Ojukwu did not throw himself at "One Nigeria" then why could he not caution Ironsi against promulgating the infamous Unification Decree but he (Ojukwu) even gleefully announced over the radio at the advent of the Unification Decree that Eastern civil servants would start getting transferred to the Northern Region since the Civil service had been centralized by Ironsi. If that was not a snatch at "one Nigeria" then what was it? Isaac Boro too warned Ojukwu of the dangers ahead for Igbos on their one Nigeria fantasy but Ojukwu refused to heed, instead he led the squad that fought, arrested and jailed Boro. Ojukwu even twice sent back to the North some Easterners who escaped home. He claimed he did that to demonstrate his faith in one-Nigeria. It is on you-tube. Videos don't lie. And for your mockery of SS people on what Ojukwu said would befall them; I want you to realize that "one-Nigeria" soldiers did not massacre SS people but massacred Ojukwu's brothers in millions. So who had more evil befall them from one Nigeria between Igbo and SS? Only economic problems befell SE minorities (now Rivers, Akwa Ibom, Bayelsa and Cross River) and which was caused by Ironsi a brother to Ojukwu. |
rhemmiedream:Very spiritual and metaphysical. It is not merely coincidental. It is spiritually programmed by the ancestors of Bia and Zo. |
63xtr33r What a nightmare for you! An Igbo man now claiming to be from Urhobo in Delta State just because I asked him to name the Igbo subdivision he hails from. Why did you keep on claiming Igbo initially if you knew you were a Deltan? It means you yourself acknowledge that your own real igbo tribe ruined Nigeria and is therefore not worth identifying with. For your information Igbos are the only tribe in Nigeria known to eat human flesh. Clifford Orji, Reverend King, etc are ready examples. For every gang of armed robbers caught in Nigeria Igbos make up 80% due to their get-rich-overnight disease. Baby factory entrepreneurs, Otokoto masters, Alaba market human parts dealers, drug traffickers etc. Just out of greed and lust after inordinate wealth Cynthia Osokogu (an Anioma girl) was drugged and killed in cold blood by her supposed Igbo brothers despite realising she was Anioma, yet this moronic plague victim keeps accusing Edos of killing Aniomas. Diabolism and fetishness has become part of the Igbo life in all ramifications that even politics is not exempted. Andy Ubah took Ngige to swear to a blood oath promising to remit certain percentages of the state's revenues to him on getting to office, and Ngige's refusal to honour it later led to friction and Ngige's impeachment. In which region other than Igbo region has that ever happened in Nigeria? Abriba and Oguta people are renowned human flesh eaters. If Edos really drink human blood the way Igbos are known to eat human flesh, then why has no single Edo person ever been arrested and paraded on TV in connection with blood drinking the way Igbos are frequently arrested and paraded on TV for trading in human parts? While trading in human parts and hard drugs they open vehicle spare parts shops or foodstuff shops to launder their image, and in less than three months later they begin to buy posh cars, claim divine breakthrough and pay huge tithes in churches to insult the God of the Christianity they pride themselves with- not minding that there is a huge and fast growing population of indegenous Igbo Muslims in Afikpos LGAs of Ebonyi, and others in Enugu. In fact there is an Igbo Sheik in Afikpo town. Hypocrites! Another blind hypocrisy from you canibals is the attitude of terming others as Arewanistan as an indication of disdain for Islam, and yet you have kept on working to see that your proposed Biafra will include the SS states and Niger Delta for which you therefore have been pasting online photographs in which the Niger Delta Volunteer Force leader, Asari Dokubo, is seen in association with Nnamdi Kanu and other Biafra agitation leaders, yet you comfortably forget that the Asari Dokubu whom you so wish to share Biafra identity with is Strong Muslem who is well grounded in the very Koranic verses you so despise. If you sincerely so despise Islam and Koran then why seek partnership with Dokubo, a Muslim well grounded and founded on Islamic faith, in your thrust to form your purportedly "Christian" Republic of Biafra? It is either you people are fooling Dokubo and the Niger Delta and SS generally, or that Dokubo is fooling you people, or that you Igbos are fooling yourselves. Someone just must be fooling the other or himself in this obvious contradiction. It definitely can't be a genuine partnership. Such a "fully" Christian Biafra Republic with Asari Dokubo in it as a high ranking stake holder alongside other indigenous Bayelsa moslems is doomed to implode the way the Christian-Muslim NCNC-NPC coalition imploded catastrophically just few years after it was consumated and which implosion eventually led to war. I foresee such a war again within the Biafra that includes Bayelsa because Asari is not a man who would tolerate religious marginalizion from Igbos. Meanwhile let the self deception and delusion continue on your part. However, I know that Asari knows deep down in his mind that he is just fooling Igbos as a SS Republic is what guarantess his religious freedom based on the fact that a SS republic is full of Christians but not Christian bigots like igbos, and that the SS houses more indigenous muslems across at least four of its states, and that the states involved do not deny it the way Igbos deny having indigenous Muslim population despite having it in Ebonyi and Enugu. Or you think Asari Dokubu is a kid not to have seen it clearly that biafra Republic will be the first country in world history where Christians will persecute others for holding divergent faiths from the mainstream Christianity? Asari Dokubo is only using you people as a tool to craftily press for true federalism which the SS only wants. Asari and most Bayelsa muslems prefer to stay back in Nigeria and secure their religious freedom than go into Biafra and lose it. Religious freedom is more important than economic freedom. No sane person surrenders religious freedom for economic interest. Only Igbos did it in 1959 by entering into the NPC-NCNC alliance for cabinet portfolios, and they ended up losing both economic and religious freedom till today and therefore sad and full of hatred for every other tribe including SS tribes. Let the FG grant true federalism/resource control today and see whether Asari will ever again touch Biafra agitators with a 100m long pole. I have given you this exposition free of charge because I don't want you to deceive yourselves into another secession brotherhood war only for you to later brand Asari Dokubo a traitor by the time he backs out. Once beaten, twice shy. But I'm afraid you will be twice beaten. I have taken all this pain out of genuine concern for another 3 million lives on the line now due to your naivete and gullibility that Dokubo is sincerely behind you. It is better you face reality, concentrate on your 5 Igbo states and leave the SS alone so as not to risk another "betrayal" as no SS state will open its two eyes and join a Republic where self-acclaimed Jews and Christians will surely persecute other religions' adherents. If Edo is not a SS state because it is, according to you, more of a Yoruba state, then it leads to four deductions as follows; 1. That the Igbankes you claim brotherhood with in Edo State are now Yorubas, therefore your brotherhood with them makes you Igbos yourselves automatically Yorubas. Whoever claims brotherhood with a people he implicitly labels as Yorubas is a Yoruba himself. 2. The Delta state you claim is part of SS (to the exclusion of Edo) is actually a state inhabited by Bini migrants (Urhobo, Isoko, Itsekiri in part, etc) who don't deny their Bini ancestry. With that fact viewed against your logic, Delta state too is a SW/Yoruba State and not a SS state. Then even you, who just claimed Urhobo in your last comment above, are a Bini man and then a Yoruba man by extension of your own very logic. Do you see how you would have failed woefully were this to have been an exam in Philosophy and Logic? And a person so dull like you recognised intelligence in Ojukwu's Aburi Accord demand which were all afterthoughts. Even a fool's afterthoughts are usually intelligent since it is a matter of forming new opinions based on lessons learnt from an earlier mistake. 3. That the fact that some tribes in Rivers state (like Ogbia) trace their origin back to Benin means Rivers too is Edo and not a SS state. 4. The fact that some tribes in Northern Cross River have languages mutually intelligible with some Edo-North tribes also means Cross River is Edo and therefore a Yoruba State based on your puerile logic. Then which state is left in the SS that fits correctly into your logic? May be only Bayelsa and Akwa Ibom. Even Bayelsa by, virtue of its indigenous Muslems, is either SW or North according to your logic. So only Akwa Ibom is the state left in your own version of SS. What a pitiable mindset! You said Edo is not culturally or geographically SS? Please which school did you attend? Are Nigeria regions purely geographical/cardinal demarcations or rather geopolitical mappings? Are they called Geo-cultural Regions or Geopolitical Regions? If the former is the case, then what is the purely geo-cultural relationship between the Itsekiri part of Delta and the Ogoja part of Cross River both of which you agree are in the SS? What is the geographical or cultural relationship between Fulanis in Illorin and idomas of Benue to qualify them both into NC if it is purely Geographical/cultural? What are the Igbos in Benue doing in the North Central if our regions are based on cultural mappings? What are the Ijaws of Ondo doing in the SW if it is by cultural mapping? There are native Itsekiris and Ijaws in Edo State, so by your foolish and preposterous logic those Itsekiris and Ijaws of Edo state are Yorubas while the Itsekiris and Ijaws of Delta State are not Yorubas but SS. You must be very high on the hard drugs your brothers traffic through MMIA. Or are you simply are confusing "geographical" with "geopolitical"? When we say stop sniffing cocaine and eating human flesh you refuse. See the result now? Please go back to school fast. The SS is a region created for Southerners who are neither Yorubas nor Igbos irrespective of their cultures or geographical space relationships. Get that into your rotten bigoted brain. As for the rest parts of your comments I have already answered them but you dodged them: 1. Who voted OBJ back to power after his land use degree onslaught on the SS in his first stint? 2. Who sold the South to the Arewanistan through NCNC-NPC alliance? 3. Which people voted for OBJ, an Arewanistan, slave against their own intelligent Aburi Accord hero so much that the latter could not get 20% votes among his own people? 4. Who killed APGA that was founded by the Aburi Accord Hero? 5. Which people rejected secession clause when they felt they needed one-Nigeria for survival at a time every other tribe made it known that Nigeria was a British fraud and wanted to exit it? 6. Which tribe did what remotely triggered the war? 7. Which people dismantled federalism? If you can't answer these questions then all your rantings about who killed who in the war are pure rubbish and inverted accusations. You sowed the wind and reaped the whirlwind. Simple! |
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63xtr33r:This victim of moronic plague is still ranting and transferring aggression here. Why should I expect you to know that Edo tribe is not only limited to Benin but the entire Edo state and most parts of Delta State. Trying to divorce Uneme from Edo is akin to an attempt to divorce Mbaise from Igbo. It is like demanding a list of prominent Mbaise sons when Mbaise is an integral part of Igbo, and then accusing the person of always talking of Igbo, Igbo, Igbo rather than concentrate on Mbaise. You want to divorce Uneme from the Umbrella Bini but you cry blue murder whenever even an Ikwere man with his own mouths claims non-Igboness. See your hypocrisy? And in your shameless double standards you have never been able to tell us the particular subdivision of Igbo you come from. Mention it and tell produce a list of prominent Nigerians from that Igbo sub-group let's see. Benin might be a spent force, but compared with Benin Nri is now an extinct force. Bini Monarch still exists and still actively commands reference from government quarters. Buhari aknowledged the Benin stool in his inauguration speech but made no mention of Nri. Even GEJ visited the Oba Palace during campaign but found no Nri ruins let alone Nri standing palace to ever visit, and this Nri man is comparing Nri to Benin and Edo as a whole. Very pitiable! If we committed genocide against Aniomas, then how come Aniomas have continued to stick to the Bendelite identity? The truth is that within Benin City the Biafran soldiers soon became oppressive and overbearing after entering the Midwest. They started raping young girls sent to give them food by local sympathisers to the Biafran course despite everyone knew they did what triggered the war by killing all other region's leading lights in cold blood without touching any one of theirs. Yet after doing such a shameful and reproachable thing they wanted every other region to congratulate them and assist them to seceed from Nigeria so that they can escape the consequences of the blood they shed. What a people! They claim the coup plotters had Yorubas among despite that it was clearly for tokenism. If not which of the targetted politicians or military officers did they assign to those Youbas to kill? None!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A sincere people would have assigned the Yorubas among them to kill Zik and Okpara so that they won't feel any tribal solidarity restraint which Ifeajuna later felt for Zik and Okpara and let them live. However, they quickly assigned Nwobosi, an Igbo, to kill Akintola so that there'd be no tribal solidarity restraint in Nwobosi at the point of action, and you tell me those Igbo guys did not know what they were doing? I only pity the likes of Ademoyega and Nzeogwu who fell for that cheap trick (even though they were recruited just 3 months to go.) Some Anioma army officers even colluded with Ojukwu for Biafra forces to invade Benin City and ancillary towns. Even at that a lot of mainland Igbos civilians living in most Edo towns, particularly my home town, during the war were protected by us by sending them into the attics to hide and giving them food and water there until the federal forces which came to search for them to kill had left without finding them. This we did at a grave risk of the federal forces finding out about our "disloyalty" and "treachery". Some of those Igbos, due to that humane gesture, decided after the war to permanently live and die among us. Some married from among us and had children by our women, and their descendants live among us till today. Yet this uninformed, parochial and untravelled entity is here accusing us of killing Aniomas. Why is it that Aniomas themselves don't make this accusation but only mainland Igbos do? I have never read or heard any Anioma man claim they were killed by Edos during the war. If Aniomas were killed by us I doubt if they would not have discontinued with their tradition of giving integral roles to the Oba's representatives during coronation of any new Anioma monarch. Do you now claim to know Aniomas' traducers more than the Aniomas themselves? Oh!, I forgot you recently cried over Jonathan's loss at the polls more than the SS who own him. Ojukwu might have been intelligent enough at the Aburi Accord meeting but that does not detract from the fact that he too was an unrepentant One-Nigerianist at the initial stage while Ironsi was still in power therefore indicting all his posturings at Aburi as a pack of intelligent afterthoughts. Why could Igbos not urge ironsi to declare Biafra from the "ass lickers" and Arewanistan while he and Ojukwu held sway? Would it have cost any single bloodshed let alone genocide if Ojukwu and Ironsi had used their supreme powers to declare Biafra free from Arewa, Edos and Oduduwa as at when they were still in power? After all the cleavages and fault lines were already very bold and a lot of Igbos had already been killed in the North. The mere fact that Ironsi left the four regions in place does not automatically equate to federalism. The difference between federalism and unitary system is not the mere existence of units but the degree to which those units are granted autonomy without interference from the centre. Britain has districts like Nottingham, Sheffield, etc. Does that mean Britain has become a federalist society? Ironsi first removed the adjective "federal" from our official name thus becoming just "Republic of Nigeria" instead of the initial "Federal Republic of Nigeria". By that he implied that the federating units had practically ceased to exist. Secondly, rather than replace the slain premiers by their deputies, ironsi replaced them with military officers whom he commanded to be reporting to him. In what kind of federalism do the federating units report to the centre? Before Ironsi came were the Ahmadu Bello, Akintola and Michael Okpara reporting to Balewa at the centre? Aguyi Ironsi used his own mouth to name Decree 34 as Unification Decree. The dictionary is very clear on the meaning of unification and on which Ironsi could not have mistaken for something else in his intention. If Ironsi's decree 34 did not dismantle federalism, then why did it spark off spontaneous riots immediately it was announced? Also, why did Gowon later find it necessary to issue his own decree 9 to reverse Ironsi's Decree 34? Gowon actually restored the regions to status quo ante 100% and ran it like that for 11 months, but had to start re-adjusting negatively in order to cripple Ojukwu. If Ojukwu had not declared Biafra, Gowon would not have reversed himself. Awolowo was an unrepentant and consumate federalist. Federalism sometimes appears disguised as tribalism and those who don't understand the full philosophy of a federalist mindset often mistake the steps a federalist takes as tribalism. That explains your view of Awo's indigenization decree. Even Zik, the unitary system advocate and "nationalist" later (in 1964 when the Northerners started hitting him and rigging elections and censuses against him and the Eastern Region) began to advocate federalism and delivered to that end a public lecture he titled "Tribalism, a pragmatic means to federalism". By then the scales had started falling off his eyes. When Enahoro said "let us practise confederacy", you refused and called him a tribalist and insisted that unitary system was the best for us and that the unity of Nigeria was non-negotiable. But when he began to support unitary system in order to stop being a tribalist and become a "nationalist" like yourselves, you again condemned him and called him a traitor who kicked against confederacy. Then what exactly do you people want? So you Igbos knew Obasanjo in his first coming promulgated the Land Use decree to impoverish the minorities in 1978 but you still gave him bloc votes in 1999 when he contested to return to further impoverish the southern minorities now SS (not withstanding the fact that PDP fraudulently replaced your Alex Ekweme with OBJ in the primaries and you people did not protest)? Then what exactly is your grouse with other Nigerians? Does that not even suggest that igbos are the real enemies of the SS and of themselves as well? In 2003 you Igbos still voted for OBJ who was the same dull, unintelligent, vindictive and wicked "ass licking Oduduwa slave of the Arewa in an election contested by Ojukwu your intelligent Aburi Accord Hero. Then what exactly is your goal and objective? Does that not lay it bare that Igbos are their own problem? How can a people use their hands to vote a slave and alien into power through an election contested by their own hero and free born only for the same people to turn round and blame everyone except themselves for their mistake? Are those people normal at all? Where did such kind of people come from for goodness sake? |
63xtr33r:Unemes are an Edoid group which migrated from the ancient Benin Kingdom which itself enlarged to an empire that swallowed all Igbo land and spread oppositely to as far as present Dahomey. How far could the insignificant Nri kingdom spread? Nri never became an empire like the Edo. The allure of the quality of Benin artworks tempted Europeans into attacking the palace and robbing it of artifacts. Which Nri palace was so robbed? Igbo Okwu is the most recent set of migrants into the Nigerian geographical area. The chosen FESTAC symbol is a Benin art work and not an Nri one. Why not Nri if you really had such a highly rated kingdom? In all Nigerian museums there is a general Museum hall for artworks of NOK, Ife, Igbo-Ukwu, Esie, Mbaise, etc, but there is always a separate Benin Gallery which is meant for exclusively unique Benin works. Why is there no Nri gallery? There is the Benin Moat which serves as international tourist attraction. Where is Nri's moat? You can't compare Nri with Benin in any ramification. Even the Europeans attested that they met civilization already existing in Benin Kingdom but that they brought civilization to Nri. They testified that they met Benin City streets arranged in geometrical patterns with major thoroughfares at regular intervals. Check the Google map of Benin City and you'll see that it remains the most planned City in West Africa. Its streets are straight and at angle 90 to intersecting ones. But Nri towns streets are armophous and non-descript. NCNC was formed by a Yoruba man who, at the point of his death, handed it over to Zik not because there were not other Yorubas who co-founded the party with him before Zik joined, but because he wanted to be impartial. But Zik, at the point of his own departure, handed it over to Michael Okpara, an Igbo like him, instead of a Niger Deltan or any other Southern minority so as to sustain the impartiality Macaulay set in motion. Zik went further to fill the executive position with Igbos as your own list above reveals. Thus he subtly converted a national outlook party to an Igbo party while still chanting "One-Nigeria". Zik read anthropology from the US and lectured in it for few years. Anthropology is a discipline which studies human cultural diversity and evolution with the aim of correctly recommending how best peoples of different cultures can coexist peacefully without clashes of culture and its attendant bloodshed. To this end Anthropology has a cardinal precept which says that "the best way for different tribes to coexist side by side and peacefully is for mechanisms (federalism) to be put in place to limit unnecessary cross interference between tribes, and that each tribe should recognize and respect the culture, beliefs and value systems of other tribes however strange they may appear" and never seek to make them abandon same. But the Zik who knew this by virtue of his profession started preaching a "one Nigeria" where all tribal differences will be progressively de-emphasized for "nationalism". What a fraud of an Anthropologist? Before Zik travelled out to the US to school he had read it in Government textbooks that Federalism (i.e. Weak centre and strong periphery) is the only workable system for a multi-ethnic democracy. On getting to the US he read it in the content of his course of study. Then he saw with his eyes how the practice of federalism had made US a world Power and an enviable country. He heard no one chanting "One America" over there. But he returned to an equally ethnically diverse Nigeria to advocate unitary system and "One Nigeria" and argued that federalism would elevate tribalism above nationalism. What a fraud of a man? In the 1953 constitutional conference the clause for secession was proposed by Enahoro and other AG members but Zik and his NCNC goons were aided by the British to reject it. In fact Zik declared that secession clause was inimical to national unity and that Nigeria's oneness was non-negotiable. Enahoro also proposed that 19 states/regions be created along tribal compatibility lines and with full autonomy thus creating a very weak centre. Zik and Igbos termed Enahoro a tribalist for making such a realistic demand. They argued that Nigeria needed an overwhelmingly strong centre over very weak regions. It was sheer boofonrey for a tribe to so much believe that a country of over 400 ethnicities could be peacefully governed by unitary system. But just 14 years later the same Zik and his people started asking for the secession which they said was inimical to national unity. They went as far as drawing up a list of Aburi demands which contained the very proposals of confederacy and secession clause they earlier rejected and accused the proponents of tribalism, and were expecting Enahoro and Oba Akenzua to support them after having earlier rejected the same proposal by Enahoro and Akenzua. Hypocrites and overnight turncoats. While Jonathan was in power, it was "GEJ till 2019, One Naija", but immediately GEJ lost, it became "On Biafra we stand". This is similar to their shouts of "One-Nigeria, unitary system is best for Nigeria" while Zik and NCNC were still together with the North in power and also Aguyi Ironsi in power too, but immediately Aguyi Ironsi was overthrown it became "On Aburi we stand, Confederacy it is, when we get too close we collide". Inconsistent clowns. |
boome1:I used to feel like you too in my early cognitive years in life when I was made to believe that SS and SE are being unduly victimized in the name of this "One-Nigeria" by the rest of Nigeria. But in my university days I was able to lay hands on books which revealed to me that "one Nigeria" sloganeering was invented by this very SE and a larger part of today's SS at a time the rest of Nigeria (North and West) were in all honesty admitting the stark naked reality that Nigeria was a mistake and a mere geographical expression and therefore demanded that the country be de-amalgamated or broken down into states along tribal identity lines in order to forestall clash of cultures and its attendant bloodshed. It was then it dawned on me that the SS and SE got into this mess because of their myopic optimism and short-sighted leaders who prided themselves as nationalists while actually suffering self delusion. |
YorubaHighness:I agree completely with you. In fact I get irritated each time I hear this perception that the Hausa and Yorubas have brainwashed the SS. That claim is pure rubbish and falsehood emanating from minds that are ignorant of genuine history. Which Hausa or Yoruba man can we point to as being responsible for brainwashing Okowa into uttering this rubbish now? The SS has always been her own problem since 1914. If not, then how else does one explain this situational irony whereby while Yorubas and even some Northern states are seeking to ban grazing in their states, a SS state governor is talking of adherence to a dysfunctional constitution? I don't get it. This whole rubbish is not difficult to decipher if one considers the fact that 67% of those areas now called SS were among those who invented the "one Nigeria" slogan despite warnings by the North and West to the contrary and for which posterity has vindicated them (North and Yorubas) today. For goodness sake what is in this "One Nigeria" fraud that an average SS person is so ready to make sacrifices for? Jonathan was the biggest culprit of "one-Nigeria" pursuit and he got the repercussions. When will the SS just learn to face reality? |
Fayose should take a loan from his wealthy friend, Ali Modu Sheriff, to pay up these arrears. After all what are friends for? |
63xtr33r:Who are Igbos' mates? Were they known before the arrival of whites? The Edo Kingdom and its peoples were already known in Europe as far back as the 13th century while Igbos were yet to even identify themselves as a tribe. So suddenly Igbos are no longer interested in sharing a country with "ass lickers and Arewanistan" after they (Igbos) held us together with ass lickers and Arewanistan by their fraudulent "One Nigeria" sloganeering against our wish? You people's hypocrisy is mind-boggling. So you knew people were ass lickers and Arewanistan yet you sought oneness with them and even held them back when they tried to separate from Nigeria? You knew Nigeria was a cesspit of Arewanistan and ass lickers yet you held Isaac Adaka Boro back from exiting the cesspit? What an interesting Irony! When will you guys just be honest enough to accept that you were the cause of all what you now regret? You keep hailing Zik as a nationalist yet you term as a cesspit the very "one" Nigeria he built with his so-called nationalism. What an interesting irony! That's tantamount to speaking from both sides of the mouth. Until you answer me clearly and prove me wrong that Igbos were responsible for preventing the de-amalgamation of Nigeria your diatribes will always appear escapist and evasive in my eyes. Why can't you for once be honest and acknowledge that your Zik and Ironsi caused your seemingly irreversible bondage with those you call ass lickers and Arewanistan? Well, the Enahoro who represented me saw it ahead that Nigeria was going to be a cesspit and he therefore proposed the secession clause in the constitution to make it easy for us his people, the yorubas, the Hausas and even Igbos, etc to exit the union later on if they felt cheated, but your Zik who was having wet dreams about one Nigeria resisted him and termed him a tribalist for that. So whose fault is it that you are now not able to exit the cesspit today? Any educated and enlightened person knows that the only feature that distinguishes confederal constitutions from federal and unitary ones is the provision of a level of looseness which guarantees the right to secession. The constitution of Nigeria would therefore have been confederal if Enahoro's suggestion of the secession clause was accepted by Zik and his fellow Igbos. But Zik argued that the unity of Nigeria was non-negotiable and that secession clause was inimical to national unity and "One-Nigeria". Now, is there national unity today even with the non-inclusion of the secession clause? That means Zik was wrong, misguided and was fooling you people all along, yet you keep hailing him as a nationalist. Even the truly federal constitution bequeathed onto us at independence was working fine. It was still one Mr. I- know-it-all from Igbo land that first tampered with it at a time the public did not demand constitution review. What was his motive if not fraud? It was his action that morally emboldened all others that came after him to fully bastardize the constitution from its wholly federal character to the unitary form which Braithwaite complained of. So whose fault again other than Igbos'? My Uneme-Nekhua people can't be seeking ways to salvage Nigeria as you charged us to. We won't do so because Nigeria has always been beyond salvage and we knew and acknowledged that right from Adam. Only Igbos refused to accept that reality and gospel truth initially. Our blood has never been shed by Northerners at anytime as we, unlike Igbos, rarely go up North to seek greener pastures but go to Lagos or overseas for which we might be called prostitutes but however not killed in the process the way Igbos get killed in the North and have still remained there seeking one Nigeria. It is rather you Igbos that have had their blood repeatedly shed by Northerners to keep Nigeria one as directed by Zik. In furtherance of that Igbos kept forming alliances with the North each time after Northerners shed their blood all in a bid to "salvage" one Nigeria. Is that the way you want us Unemes and indeed all Edos too to contribute to the "salvaging" of one Nigeria? Igbos' laughable ways of reasoning! Ha ha ha ha....... Please cut that crap of a suggestion cos we are not that silly. Our blood is too precious to sacrifice trying to correct the blunders Igbos made against all wise counsels and are still paying dearly for. Your claim that Igbos are not ready to form a country with Arewanistan, ass lickers, treasury looters, blah, blah, blah...is pure rubbish as Igbos and Hausas are one and the same in Nigeria's politics. The BIA syllable of WAZOBIA is an Igbo word which, on the surface, means "come" but actually is the short form of BIAFRA in deeper meaning. So Biafra is part and parcel of WaZoBia. In fact Bia is directly tied to Zo in Wa-zobia spelling meaning that the Hausa and Igbos are closer together than everyone else. Just check it out Wa (ZoBia) meaning Yoruba (HausaIgbo). There is no Edo word in the Wazobia appellation. It is all a Yoruba -HausaIgbo affair. Live with that reality. Hausas love you and you love them even when they are slaughtering you. It happened in 1945 and 1953 yet in 1959 you went into a political marriage with them called NPC-NCNC (Arewanistan-Biafra) coalition. Twenty years later, in 1979, you again went into the NPN-NPP (still Arewanistan-Biafra) coalition. Twenty years again, 1999, still you went into the PDP (Arewanistan-Biafra) Coalition once more. Do you think the twenty year interval is just being coincidental? If you think so then consider the fact that a Biafran called Ekweremadu has once more zoned the PDP (Arewanistan-Biafra) ticket to Arewanistan North against 2019........another 20 years from 1999. Open your eyes and see that Hausa and Igbo oneness is non-negotiable as Zik put it. It even follows a rhyming pattern. |
stanech:You obviously are looking from a tribal/partisan hate perspective or else you should have also noticed that Okorocha who is also of the APC is using Yoruba style to cripple Imo going by your logic. What was Edo State like when Lucky was running Edo with the Ibo PDP style? Imo therefore also has no business being in the SE. Edo tried PDP and PDP failed woefully. Must they still stick with PDP and continue suffering just to feed the erroneous perception that PDP is the "party" of the SS when PDP was actually a creation of the Katsina Mafia? The SS has never had a party of its own, and that is the truth. Edos are not ruled by ego or mundane and self-destructive sentiments the way some tribes are. And mind you that Edo did better than Bayelsa, Akwa Ibom despite it has virtually no oil and thus its 13% derivation is negligible compared with all other SS states except Cross River which no longer has oil. Edo as well dwarfed all other SE states. In terms of debt burden Edo is least in the SS. On overall sustainability which is really the ultimate essence and supreme parameter of the topic Edo is 5th among all the SS states with Cross River coming a distant 6th. Now, who is running Cross River with Yoruba style also? If you were sincere in your view you should have noted that the paucity of oil revenue is what militated against Edo and Cross River as SS states. So how is it Oshiomhole's or Ayade's fault that Edo and Cross River don't have as much crude oil as the other 4 SS states? Abi na governor dey chook oil for ground so that him state fit get revenue? By the time natural gas exploration is fully developed and the economy diversified into agriculture we will see which SS state will see the back of Edo and Cross River as regards sustainability. And mind you that of all the SS states Edo was the worst hit by PDP misgovernance courtesy of Lucky Igbinedion. No other SS state was that unlucky, not even Delta. In previous ratings like this one Edo was nowhere to be found among the first 25 while PDP ruled the state. It took the arrival of Oshiomhole for Edo to land among the first ten. Edo GDP is now 7th, her GDP per capita is now 4th, her sustainability index is now 9th, IGR is now 5th, and so on. Edo is among the less than 6 states in nigeria not owing its workers, and is almost about the only SS state in that category despite her very tiny federal allocation compared to other SS states and even most SE, SW and Northern states. Please check through again and stop transferring to Edo state the bitterness you have against Yorubas for allegedly making you lose Biafra war. |
Ikeg48:Hypocritic attempt to distort history. It is you who claiming that I am distorting history so you are the one to show links to support your own claim. You obviously saw it clearly that my comment on Niger Delta trading away justice for "peace" was merely in corroboration of a previous similar comment by someone else, but you did not ask that person ( original maker of the comment) for links, instead you are asking me. How hypocritical and reproachable! The facts are all available from books on how Aguyi Ironsi dismantled federalism and replaced it with unitary system which marked the beginnings of rape of the Niger Delta's wealth. Ironsi was not from the Niger Delta himself but a lot of Niger Delta Army officers like Bassey Effiong actively or passively approved Ironsi's rash and myopic Unification Decree which grounded regional autonomy all in the name of seeking a "stronger" and more "united" country. Well for Ojukwu's deeds against the Niger Delta; please show me a link that completely exonerates Ojukwu from the arrest and sentencing to death of Isaac Boro. Show me a link that proves beyond reasonable doubt that biafran soldiers did not invade and illegally occupy all today's six SS states committing atrocities against innocent locals in a fight between Arewa and Biafra who had been friends since 1959 in the NCNC-NPC governing coalition. Ojukwu's own confessional statements on how he twice sent Igbo fugitives back to the North is on You-tube live. Videos don't lie. |
Expensivewarrio:Igbos invented "One Nigeria" and worked to defend it at a time it was clear that Nigeria was not one and could never become one. Ojukwu did not see anything. He was an enemy of the Niger Delta because it was him who crushed the very first attempt the Niger Delta made to pull out of "One-Nigeria". Ojukwu was still loving one Nigeria and was ready to crush anyone whose activities threatened the survival of "One-Nigeria". Ojukwu even so loved "One-Nigeria" that he twice sent back to the North his own fellow Igbos who managed to escape to Enugu from the 1966 pogroms in the North. Ojukwu himself confessed he did that because he was genuinely convinced initially that Gowon was on a reconciliatory mission. A person who was still hoping to reconcile with a system that had already killed thousands of his own people. And you call such a person a seer of the future? Why could Ojukwu and Ironsi not declare Biafra while they were still in power and calling the shots? Isaac Boro and Niger Deltans had already woken up before Ojukwu and Biafrans later painfully realized it was daybreak. |
Ewizard:It was actually myopic on their path to settle for injustice in the name of working for peace. Such peace is usually very elusive and counterproductive. Whoever sacrifices and trades away justice and equity on the altar of seeking peace and "national unity" will later have to have his own rights abused and his blood shed to sustain that peace while he himself will perpetually be in search of that justice he traded away. Such is why Niger Delta has paid dearly for that "peace" and has till today still not been able to restore the justice and equity they traded away. |
Jirate:Wish kain love be rat? |
gebest:R.I.Pigs. |
Ken Saro-Wiwa's Final Statement to Military Tribunalhttp://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/34a/020.html
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mandax:In fact he so much tried to please Hausa-Fulani that he completely sacrificed all the interest of the SS. The following instances say it all. 1. As at a time many reasonable Nigerians were suspecting that the Northern elite was behind BH insecurity, GEJ sacked his fellow SS brother as NSA and replaced him with a Fulani who obviously belonged to the Northern elite. 2. An Igbo man was made NPC chairman and he boldly came up declaring an obvious home truth about the fraudulent status of all Nigeria's censuses since the beginning. But a Hausa man, Kwankwaso, went to Aso Rock to threaten GEJ into sacking him. GEJ truly obliged because he felt by yielding to Kwankwaso's blackmail he would please Kwankwaso and secure Kano votes towards 2015 which Ironically he did not get when he won in 2011. 3. Despite the fact that GEJ's region was and still most in need of a Sovereign National Conference GEJ resisted such claiming that corruption, and not structure, was Nigeria's only real problem which once solved every other thing would just fall in place miraculously. But he forgot that no country in the world has ever successfully fought corruption and killed it. Jonathan was not the best the SS could offer. |
tundexijim:In fact even Yaradua himself was a mistake as he was handpicked by the biggest mistake called OBJ. |
raumdeuter:You are fantastically and cokastically sarcastic. O boy you get am well well! |
PassingShot:I am not talking about the media. In fact the media, whether SW controlled or not does not sing anyone's praises. But I am talking of Yorubas I met everyday face to face as a Lagos resident. In my neighbourhood even some members of AC used to hail OBJ as the father of "modern" Nigeria despite all he was putting Tinubu, their party leader, through. Even the SS persons who I claim were praising OBJ before he and GEJ fell out were people I knew face to face in my home community and not media men or women. |
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