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jason123:
Objectively speaking, Justcash and Dem_people are both right.
I would advise Ndigbo to grab as much political positions as possible (because GEJ will not be there forever so you need "SEastern OBJs" within the SE) and also develop your region as fast as possible because; guys, as I am seeing things, it's like 2015 is badly wanted by the North(Born to rule) and the SW(Fashola) except GEJ continues . . .
So guys, grab as much as possible ad also develop as much as possible. This will further more make Nigerians believe in your capabilities . . .
MO

Shut up your ignorant and putrid mouth. It appears the obsession you have for 2015 and inconsequential Nigerian presidency is inherently pathetic. A mangle-minded loafer who does not understand the mainstay of ancestry lineage has the effrontery to lecture Ndigbo on political matters. What a jackass. You are just a bloody onlooker who weeps more than the bereaved.

[quote author=Mr--Why link=topic=701592.msg8665680#msg8665680 date=1309989080]@Dede1

You can raise legitimate questions about the article without resorting to name calling. That attitude alone on your part, shows how your emotions overcame your reasoning. The article was not written to downgrade fellow Africans mind and critical thinking ability. Rather it was trying to point out how the West view us in general and to address it and prove them wrong that critical thinking is not a western thing but universal in everyone.

It is quite unfortunate that you did not read and understand the article very well before commenting. Please try to have control over your emotions before jumping into discussions like this.[/quote]Emotions or not, I do not need to read the essay which lacked lexical structure twice to fathom the author is deficient on the matter of critical thinking.

The author’s claims and the submitted examples are very bogus at best. Yet the people whom the author claimed to have patent on critical thinking have succumbed to hypothesis devoid of the concept of critical thinking.

Science does not hold monopoly on the subject matter as the author would want us to believe. It appears the author was speaking with two sides of his or her mouth and clearly should not join Africa with such naïve intuitive display

@Eziachi

Most of the times while we debate on this forum; I have sat with you in the same trench. Let me make it clear that I do not know Rochas Okorocha personally and can not pick him out from a crowd of two. I based my critiques of Okorocha on his alleged actions which apparently fly in the face of any constituted code. Okorocha has been painted as a lawyer and behaves like Motor Park tout. The last time I check, Okorocha was sworn-in as executive governor not a military governor of Imo State.

I guess ideas are not limited to nomenclatural tendencies because PWD (Public Works Department) is still DPW (Department of Public Works) under ministry of works and urban development. It is funny you failed for goofy statement such as “engineers in air-conditioned office”. Practically speaking, engineers except young engineers, field or engineers on inspection duty are seated in well ventilated air-conditioned office to enhance their ability to tackle abstract issues.

Again, I think you have been overtaken by the latest shenanigans surrounding the granting of title in Igbo land. Other than men such Rochas Okorocha who seemingly bought their Chieftaincy title with money, the honor was reserved for men of integrity who have done unselfish things to their community and probably are not men of brown money bags such the so-called Owelle Rochas Okorocha. Besides, the word-Chief has no mainstay in Igbo culture and tradition.

On the issue of autonomous status to a community in Nigeria, I think the constitution spoke clearly on the process. Unfortunately, the so-called learned governors elected by the electorates seemed to usurp the process as Okorochas has done. I seriously doubt if Okorocha is a lawyer or probably he understands the loopholes in the constitution and tends to play with them.

If Rochas Okorocha, the dictatorial clone, is harboring presidential ambitions, he should kiss it bye-bye. The few months he has led Imo State as governor had created dreadful memories in the state laden with lies, confusion and power intoxication. He will not win in Imo State if he continues with this insanity talk less of neighboring states

afam4eva:
The governor is just trying to promote the use of Igbo language and I don't see anything wrong with that.

And yet the dictatorial governor is still carrying official business of Imo State through English Language. If he wants to promote Igbo or use of Igbo language in Imo State, he should seek the wish of Imo State citizens who are his boss or at least he should start conducting every business of Imo State in Igbo language. Do not get me wrong, I am for the promotion of Igbo language but through correct manner.

EzeUche:
How are these enactments silly? They seem to be widely population amongst the people of Imo state. Is he not an executive? He has the ability to decree such enactments, because he has the power to do so. Where is he breaking the law? I have yet to hear that his enactments are unconstitutional. Stop being a detractor and support this Igbo rising star.

It is very laughable and ludicrous that Imo State government is now involved with the business of awarding inconsequential village chieftaincy title reserved in the tenant of each community within the Imo State. I am wondering who actually conferred chieftaincy title on Rochas Okorocha and whether such process was reviewed by previous state governors from the states where he dumbly received his title.

[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=707011.msg8663370#msg8663370 date=1309966305]Dede,

Be careful with your entrenched search for a "one Nigeria". Your passion and energy for a neutral view is admirable but remember that this country is far easier to dismantle than it is to assemble and sustained.

Your fraternity on academic elitism with a couple of others who view the display of tribalism as an indicator of illiteracy and lack of knowlledge is not wrong but the "club house" mentality could cause you to lose reality on assessing and attributing priority to the most fundamental leaning in life - tribal identity!


You are igbo first, then Nigeria second!

Give praise where its due. Rocha need improvements in the ideas and how they are implemented, but praise his pioneering effort and acknowledge that someone in this age is thinking about the village and their relevance in the forefront of governance. He is giving power to the people!

Isn't that what democracy is about?[/quote]I guess you have erroneously mistaken me for another individual. I have never for once agitated for “one-Nigeria", the well documented empty indoctrine.

EzeUche:
Do you think I do not know about my people? You are simply a detractor. And I do not understand why you would have a problem with this policy and his other enactments. Rochas Okorocha is a known philanthropist who works on behalf of the good people of Imo state. I think it is time you have come to realize this.

You can continue to be a doubt like the Apostle Thomas. And why bring up the Germans? Did he not make his country strong?

May I remind you that government in Imo State is guided by the rule of law not stupid enactments by the state governor? I guess you have a different copy of Nigerian constitution from the one in my possession. We have House of Assembly and Judiciary in Imo State. Rochas Okorocha is not running a military regime in Imo State. If Rochas Okorocha wants certain laws that oversee the issues in LGA in Imo State to be amended, he should go through the right channel not self-deluded enactments as you have proffered.

EzeUche:
Do you think Okorocha warrant such detraction? The man has only been governor for 2 months. Why use such descriptions of him? Imo state needs radical change and Okorocha will provide this change. Viper or not, I support Okorocha. We need vipers in Igboland politics. Better a viper than a goat.

Ndigbo are not id.iots by any stretch of imagination. If there is any detractor in Imo State, Rochas Okorocha is one. Someone alluded Rochas is trained lawyer but I doubt it seriously. If Rochas Okorocha is not dictatorial sleazebag, he could not have dabbled with issue of LGA chairmen in Imo State.
   
Be very careful what you wish. The load of outbursts coming from you could be likened to what was obtained from Hitler and Germans.

EzeUche:
My brother you are very WRONG.

Rochas Okorocha is bringing meaningful change to Imo state. You are simply a detractor.

Thank you for such rare observation. Detractor or not, I do not banter from the sentimental and emotional plank. Inciting one section of community against another is dangerous precedent that will eventually consume the instigator. It is funny Okorocha is now popularly known as a viper. By the way, what reform are you alluding in your post?

@OP

The title of the thread is very erroneous and misleading. Governor of a state can not increase or reduce the power or functionality of a traditional ruler of a particular autonomous community because of the dictate of various culture and tradition which are sources of powers to traditional rulers.

Rochas Okorocha is a dictatorial sleazebag. If the traditional rulers should be held responsible for acts of kidnapping in their various communities, Rochas Okorochas should be equally held responsible for any act of armed robbery or kidnap in Imo State.

I do not think democracy means anything to Rochas Okorocha and hope he should be paid back in kind. Governor could reform a state’s socio-politico-economic culture without being dictatorial.

[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=699338.msg8592133#msg8592133 date=1309065142]In many of my discussions on ethnic politics and culture I consistently show my frustrations with lack of will by Igbos to initiate constructive plan of action to re-energize their limp political image.

It is refreshing to see some starters. With continued effort and determined focus it should get better.


I noticed that the forum is flooded with Igbo titled discussions. Although a lot are still rough on the edges and betrays the motive in which Igbo is intending to cement itself -forcefully- against mounting challenges and threats to its dominating majority in the East.

Credit should be given to their effort for reconciliation and reunification with the Ijaws.

It would be encouraging to see more of these humbled approach, than the confrontational and annoying approach of seizing and re-authoring histories and ancestries of formidable neighbors who prefer a standalone existence to the joint-destiny linkage desired by the Igbos.


If Igbos can repeat with these sub-groups the kind of negotiating contact they initiated with the Ijaws, then the power of goodwill in the negotiated terms could perhaps win some hearts to their side and a forceful hijack of history should no be necessary.

Negotiate! Negotiate!! Negotiate!!!

Negotiate with your neighbors, otherwise your rival is perceived as a better alternative. They might break cultural lines to give allegiance to those who are on the other end of the cultural bridge.

Shed your arrogance, improve your relational skills![/quote]The above post is a piece of junk created by a deluded onlooker. I shall give you credit for one thing thus your ability to recognize the forum is sometimes flooded with Igbo topic. Other than this infinitesimal observation, I suggest you pay attention to your medication. Let me attempt to ingest the fact the Ndigbo do not need any group in Nigeria and particularly Ijo to survive as an independent country or as a part of Nigeria.

It was not too long ago that a particular group of people decided and still continue to seek ways to secede from Nigeria. Since the end of the civil war, the victorious side has done everything within human capacity to dim the progressiveness of Ndigbo through draconian policies and junk piece of write-ups that lacked basic facts such as the rubbish posted by Negro_Ntn in order to raise unfounded sentiments. Maybe you have forgotten the abandon property saga and unprogressive boundary adjustment initiated by federal government immediately after the civil war.

[quote author=dem_people link=topic=703136.msg8635034#msg8635034 date=1309605095]No offense but the Ijaw have to understand that there's no comparison between them and  Ndiigbo as Ndiigbo are evidently better-off than the Ijaw in everything I can think of. We were and are never rivals. The Ijaw regard Ndiigbo as their "senior brother" and Ndiigbo regard the Ijaw as their "junior but very stubborn brother".



Well supported.

If an ethnic group means among other definitions, a group that has a common intelligible language then of course, Ijaw isn't an ethnic group.[/quote]When I wrote the mixture of Igbo and porters from Gold Coast, the statement is limited to Ijo of eastern region of Nigeria. By the way, all the so-called Ijo were posters to early Europeans to Rio Real in Bight of Biafra and were drawn from Gold Coast.

ogugua88:
You're a clown.

To all of you, I'm brainwashed, however, I do wonder how many homosexuals all of you have encountered to jump to your conclusions. I've seen both sides of the sense and can tell you that one side isn't greener than the other; they're the same. I have Same-sex friends. I have Same-sex and bisexual coworkers. I have attended political events and rallies with them. I have attended fundraisers and awareness events with them. I have gone to school with them. I can tell you that they are just as normal and human as any heterosexual person and I highly respect them. The kind of people all of you are describing? I have never seen or met anyone like that, and I have attended man-lover events, such as man-lover Pride Day, or events where they are plenty, like AIDS Fundraiser Walk.

Until I hear of any incident coming from that locker room, I will support FIFA if they decide to ban Falcons from competitions. No one is asking anyone to accept or conform to homosexuality. Just leave them alone. Stop out-casting them.

It is silly you are huffing to defend homosexuality but failed blindly to understand the coach and Nigeria have right to indulge in heterosexuality including selecting only heterosexual players into Falcon team. European, USA and FIFA can not impose odd behaviors on Africans under the auspices of silly pretence of civilization. If homosexuality is part of civilization, I shall decline.

Nigerians are very funny people. How could they expect to make profit when they went to the market empty-handed? Some Nigerians expect these girls to perform miracle on the pitch of soccer when there is no single strength and physical training facility in Nigeria. Mere kicking ball around on the practice pitch can not cut it. In addition, some of these girls are bread winners of their families and who will not risk breaking their legs while playing for country such as Nigeria that can not carter for them during hard times.

[quote author=Mr--Why link=topic=701592.msg8611595#msg8611595 date=1309301195]I want to start this piece by stating emphatically that if lack of critical thinking or inability to apply one’s common sense to issues is what makes one an African, then I am not an African. I say this - and I really mean it. That I hereby renounce my African identity if it means that I should not exercise my critical intelligence or apply reason and science in all areas of human endeavor. If being an African means I should suspend and shut down my thinking faculty and blindly accept whatever any person or prophet says or preaches, then, I say, count me out. Don’t count me as an African. I am making this assertion because very often blind faith, dogma and fetishism are identified with African mentality.

Whenever I try to apply logic, critical reasoning and scientific temper to issues during public debates, I am often accused of not thinking like an African. I am always told that I think like a white man or that I have a western mentality. As if critical thinking or the scientific outlook is for westerners alone or that critical thinking can only be exercised by people from a particular race or region. No, this is not the case.
Surprisingly, nobody has ever stepped forward to tell me how an ‘African’ thinks. For me it is either this ‘African mode of thought’ is one which nobody knows about or is one that does not exist or qualify to be called a thinking pattern. Nobody has tried to let me know if Africans think at all. Because this misguided view that one is unAfrican or western in outlook is often employed to block or suppress critical reasoning or inquiry particularly when it is used to challenge traditions, positions and opinions informed by blind faith or dogma.

While holding on to beliefs and outlooks informed by superstition and primordial thinking is often glorified as African. Even in this 21st century, reason and science are still perceived as western, and not African values. I have yet to understand how we came about this mistaken idea. Hence, it is often portrayed as if the African does not reason and dare not reason or that the African does not think or cannot think critically. It seems thinking like an African means suspension of thought, logic or common sense. Thinking like an African means not thinking at all- thoughtlessness or thinking in spiritual, occult or magical ways.

For instance, whenever I try to challenge or question the irrational and absurd claims of witchcraft, juju and charms, and other ritualistic and religious nonsense that dominate the mental space of Africans, I am often reminded that my mentality is western. And you know what, whenever in the course of a public debate, somebody alleges that a position is western, it means that it is unacceptable though it may be reasonable or may have a superior argument. Is that not unfortunate?

Whenever I try to fault or expose the absurdity of witchcraft accusations or the persecution of alleged witches or wizards, many people often urge me to set aside this my oyibo(white man’s) mentality. As if critical thinking is the exclusive cultural preserve of white people while mystical thinking is for blacks and for Africans. Personally, I am aware that the white race and the western world have recorded significant achievements in the areas of science and technology, in rational and critical discourses. They also have their own share of dark age nonsense, dogmas and superstitions.
But that does not make the values of science, reason and critical thinking western or white. The values of science and reason constitute part of human heritage, which all human beings can lay claim to, exercise, access, express, celebrate, cultivate and nurture. The progress which the western world has recorded as a result of their institutionalization of reason and science is one which any society can realize and supercede if it wants. Africans should stop hiding behind this misrepresentation that reason and science are unAfrican western values. Africans should embrace the enlightening matrices of critical mindedness and work to dispel the dark age and barbaric mentality that loom large on the continent.
Those who are propagating this erroneous idea that critical thinking is alien to African identity and mentality are doing the African race and civilization a great disservice. They are frustrating the take off of African enlightenment, emancipation and emergence. There is no sound mind who would fault this logic. The syllogism that says-

All human beings can think critically. All Africans are human beings. Therefore all Africans can think critically.
So Africans should rise up to the challenge of critical evaluation of issues. Because lack of critical thinking is at the root of most problems that plague the continent. Africans should strive and make critical inquiry part of African culture, identity and civilization. I am also appealing to all all lovers of science, reason and critical thought around the globe to help Africans realize this intellectual breakthrough.[/quote]Sir or Madam, you are very much entitled to your opinions regardless how goofy they appear. After all, opinion is a terrible thing to have and yet everybody has one.

If you want to impugn the character of Africans, you are free to do so but do not hide under auspices of “critical thinking” to do so. I do not know the type of crowd you keep but reading this junk you posted on this forum, there is much to be desired. Please do not dwell on the suggestions of airheads you keep as friends to arrogate a grade of critical thinker to yourself. Reading from the above post, I concluded you do not understand the concepts of the phrase-critical thinking.

A woefully failure to understand the certain aspects of African culture and tradition does not warrant you to fault Africans on the pedigree of critical thinking. Besides within the canopy of critical thinking, it is understood that nobody acts purely objectively and rationally all the time.

In fact, your post is a misguided self-aggrandizement loaded with misconceived aspect of the subject matter such as to recognize our own assumptions, prejudices, biases, or point of view.

For an umpteenth time, Ijo was never an ethnic group. Ijo is a modern day creation which is an unfortunate mixture of Igbo and porters from Gold Coast.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI]All we in the SW are saying to the North/SE is. . . . this time, dont bring your rubbish our way.

Good luck to Boko harams and Boko IYCD. May the best have more blood in their hands.[/quote]I thought you have acquired some manners and buried your ubiquitous traits on this forum. You are still behaving like an old decommissioned love hawker. I guess you are predisposed to such inherent stupidity.

The Europeans, USA and FIFA can go to hell with their homosexuality. I do not blame these fools but Africans who have bought detrimentally into the codes the Europeans put up for race. There is no such thing as racism. The earth has one race and it is human race. They have got most people to think about discrimination based on unfounded logic in order to impose their dirty life styles on other people of the earth.

[quote author=N.Delta link=topic=700671.msg8611687#msg8611687 date=1309302546]What then will u do with the warriors of rivers state, that is the Ijaws known as Kalabari and Okrikas in Rivers state? do not also forget the Ogonis and Andonis and other non igbo speaking parts of the state. Only 35% of the states migrated from igbos mainly the Ikweres, etche etc[/quote]This conjure is born out of fool’s delight. Ijo has never had warriors or constituted into anything that could scare a housefly.

semid4lyfe:
NO! You are wrong and I disagree. Joy Jegede was the captain of the U-20 team that won silver at the Germany 2010 FIFA U-20 Women's World Cup. She paired Osinachi Ohale (who paired Onome Ebi in AWC 2010 and in yesterday's game) in central defence and was the better of the two in my opinion. _{You're probably mixing up the Trinidad & Tobago U-17 Women's Championship with the U-20.}. Faith Ikidi used to be a very good defender (our best defender) in 2007/2008 (World cup/Olympics. . .and was outstanding in marking out USA's Abby Wambach then) but she's clearly past it and on current form, I think Joy Jegede is better.

LOL. . .is this an informed opinion or you're making that assumption cos of the surname and you think she's using a different ''first'' name in this competition?. . .just like how Osaze Odemwingie is known as Peter Odemwingie in the EPL?

I hate to burst your bubble, but again you are wrong! UCHECHI SUNDAY IS NOT ESTHER SUNDAY. I know it seems very unlikely that two different female footballers in a team would have the same surname but believe me, they're different people.

I have the official squad list in PDF format as released by FIFA (downloaded from FIFA.com and I'm looking at it now) of all the participating countries detailing all their info & statistics and I've checked it out. . .and done some research too.

Uchechi Sunday is an Igbo girl and her full name is Uchechi LOPEZ Sunday. She 16yrs+ (09/09/94), stands at 1.82m (should be about 6ft) tall and she plays for FC Neunkirch in Switzerland and was uncapped for the Falcons until yesterday WHILE Esther Sunday is an Efik or Ibibio girl. Her full name is Esther UKPONG Sunday, of average height and she plays for Sunshine Queens of Akure. She played at the AWC 2010 and also in the Olympics & All Africa Games qualifiers this year. Her caps for the Falcons should be at least 10 by now or just a little less. Esther Sunday was part of the 30 players that was in the Austria training camp but she didn't make the final squad.

Very True! Nigerians teams hardly incorporate the off-field training regimes into their training practice. The typical Nigerian football training starts and ends on the pitch. . . .E nor dey pass light warm-up with some physical exercises, some laps of jogging round the pitch and then playing a training match. I doubt they put in much work off the pitch i.e gym, chilled water pool etc for physical conditioning and tuning out exercises.

You are right about the girls named Sunday. However, I strongly disagree on the inclusion of Joy Jegede in the current Nigeria’s women world cup team. There is valid argument for inclusion of Loveth Ayila, Amarachi Okonkwo and even Esther Ukpong Sunday.

In addition, mush of the blames should be levied on the Nigeria which is a categorized piece of junk.

ZnO: Quote from: sadiq88 on Yesterday at 01:51:34 PM
Current Miss Taraba , Sylvia Nduka is the winner of Most beautiful Girl in Nigeria(MGBN )2011 contest that just took place at Eko hotels,V.I,Lagos.

CONGRATS
As the winner of this year's competition she will take home a brand new Hyundai car and a 3 million Naira cash prize.
She will also represent Nigeria in this year's Miss World competition taking place in London, United Kingdom later this year.


other winners:

MBGN Tourism 2011 – Obioma Isiwu (Miss Enugu)
MBGN ECOWAS 2011 – Grace Ndam (Miss Lagos) Sound Igbo too
MBGN 2011/BellaNaija Miss Photogenic - Tobi Banjoko (Miss Ondo)
MBGN 2011 Miss Amity – Delphine Okobah (Miss Ebonyi)
MBGN 2011 Miss La Casera – Nwando Ebeledike (Miss Adamawa)
MBGN 2011 Model - Oluchi Okafor (Miss Kogi)
MBGN 2011 Face of Select Pro - Gabriella Ndu (Miss Abia)


All in bold are okoros; Miss Lagos is Cross Rivers

Miss Lagos is Igbo not Efik (Cross Rivers). If it is Ndem, it could have been Ibibio or Efik. However, it is Ndam.

amaka2011:
please!! is it Bad, for an igbo man to get married to yoruba lady
please nairaland i need your advice,

Please it is bad!!!!!!!!

semid4lyfe:
It's now obvious coach Uche Eucharia didn't select the best players for this tournament. Clearly, she erred in her squad selection. I'm still not convinced Amenze Aighewi (3 caps), Uchechi Sunday (uncapped until today), Faith Ikidi & Rebecca Kalu deserve to be in this team ahead of Loveth Ayila, Esther Sunday, Amarachi Okonkwo, Joy Jegede & Ngozi Okobi. Why are Nigerian coaches so stuck on old players and afraid to give new (younger) players a chance. WHY?

The coach also botched her starting eleven today. . .playing a clearly heavy, slow and unfit Faith Ikidi at right back ahead of a fitter and more athletic Josephine Chukwunonye. I was happy she realized her mistake and removed Faith Ikidi and brought in Josephine Chukwunonye early in the first half.

Desire (Ugochi) Oparonozie despite missing our best chance of the game shouldn't haven't been removed cos her strength & pace gave the France defence problems. She was difficult to shake off the ball, kept drifting into wide positions and getting us more into play. Her substitution made the France defenders more settled and gave them the confidence to play more upfield. Instead, Ebere Orji should have been removed for Sarah Micheal.

The Referee denied us a clear penalty in the second half but shyte happens all the time in football so I won't begrudge her for that.

All in all, I think it wasn't as bad a performance as most peeps here are making it out to be. Clearly, most know little about this France team, the players and their pedigree. *Google FCF Lyon and check out videos of the 2011 UEFA Women's Champions League Competition on youtube*

Personally, I think this France team is better than Germany and I see them topping the group.

I partially agree with your post. While I agreed both Loveth Ayila and Amarachi Okonkwo should have been included, I do not agree on Joy Jegege. Jegede was the captain of U-17 women team and the weakest link on the team’s defense.

By the way, Uchechi Sunday is Esther Sunday. Sheep can not beget a tiger. Nigeria is a messed up country and even more dilapidated under the civilian regime called democracy. Commentators at underway U-17 boy’s tournament are lamenting on the absence of perennial powerhouse such as Nigeria.

I do not think Nigerian girls have the same physical preparation and regimentation available to European and USA teams.

With makeup or without, Genevieve is more beautiful than Omotola. Omotola has height advantage but also has rough legs. It looks she has a rough child hood.

agitator:
The igbos are happy that one of them an officer in active service with a gun for that matter was killed, so much for the igbo might.

[b]you can't try that with the ijaws. >:

When military combat and fearless issues are discussed, I suggest you do not mention Ijo. It sounds very odd in the ear to inject the word-ijo when military toughness and boldness are the subject matter. It was not too long ago in Nigeria the so-called Ijo nationality capitulated at coughing of British-aided Nigerian side.

seanet02:
Dede has never been mentally stable. He is a real m0ron.

Of course, it takes one mentally disturbed son of an airhead to discern who is mentally unbalanced.

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=693712.msg8576095#msg8576095 date=1308839913]"capable to left a word"? What on earth does that mean, Mr low-rent version of Patrick Obahiabgon?
Not sure how this is relevant, even if true. Again, West was still the wealthiest region.
Seemed to have worked out pretty well, I think. Third party observers (like the foreigner that visited at that time) seem to agree.
Do you even believe what you just wrote?  In any case, as stated, economy-wise Eastern region was the poorest in Nigeria before oil. Even less fiscally sound than the North.[/quote]In my book, staging a street “Owambe” does not indicate the level of richness. I could not understand the depth of well-being of western region of Nigeria when all social indices staked against it.

I shall give the act of empty boasts to the region though. The claim of western region as the richest region was akin to the goofy claim of a millionaire who can not afford the bill for a breakfast. The region had claimed the invention of everything from free education to stadia yet the school-grade pupils from the region could not kick a round ball.

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=693712.msg8572578#msg8572578 date=1308795517]EZEUCHE, U GAVE ME HIS HISTORY

WHY NOT GIVE ME HIS ACHIEVEMENT FOR NIGERIA AS A COUNTRY

WHAT DID HE PUT DOWN FOR NIGERIA OR HIS PEOPLE OR AFRICA APART FROM HE SCHOOLED IN LONDON

AM WAITING[/quote]You must quit being ridiculously stupid. Did any breathing being of kanuri extraction able to get admission into CMS Grammar School, Bariga, Shomolu LGA, Lagos State talk less of attending Ivy league school in 20s and 30s?

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=693712.msg8570218#msg8570218 date=1308762767]In terms of wealth in the 50s and 60s before the discovery of oil:
1) West
2) North
3) East

I read an article the other day about an attempt to introduce free education in the Eastern region that failed due to lack of cash. If I find it again, I'll post it here.

Like I said, gimme Awo over any other leader[/quote]Shut up your putrid mouth and concentrate on Wikipedia where you seem capable to left a word. During the hard times of crude oil exploration in the protectorates, western region of Nigeria under Awolowo pledged poverty in effort to continue search for crude oil.

Free education in western region of Nigeria was practical joke and tribal ploy. In the midst of the so-called free education in western region, eastern region equaled if not beating western region in any imaginable human endeavor including sport.

@OP


I guess the poster must have been incarcerated for a long time. According to few nitwits on the naira land, Gov. Fashola built Lagos State.