₦airaland Forum

Godmother:
To compare they should be dressed equally na. You cant compare the way a woman looks on weaves without makeup to one on weavon.Not fair

Delusional!!! Weaves or no weaves, Omotola was carrying weave-on too. Are trying to insinuate Omotola’s weaved hair is natural not loads of weave-on or rug? Nigerians will fall into depthless pit to connect with their skewed ways.

@OP

Other than few names on the so-called Nigeria’s 50 greatest players, the list is a practical joke.

Nigeria and most Nigerians are plain useless. The reporter emphatically stated Tiv/Fulani clash was along border towns and villages in Guma Local Government Area of Benue State. In the other hand, Benue State Police Public Relations Officer indicated the clash was indeed in the Benue-Nasarawa border but the area of fighting was not within jurisdiction of Benue State command thus the clash was in Nasarawa State.

A staunch professional approach to journalism would have elevated the comprehensible ability of deluded alj harem.

@OP

I am disappointed there are still Nigerian military officers of Igbo extraction parading as clones of Aguiyi Ironsi. Lt. Chinedu Anyanwu should have known better than playing a peacemaker between Fulani and Tiv. By the way, Ndigbo should look at the rumbles between Fulani/Hausa/Kanuri and Bachama/Berom/Tiv in the northern region as the case involving the hunter, partridge and hen. Only a blind man needs to be informed that war is raging on the horizon.

grafikdon:
Chief Ciroma Akubueze Shehu Abubanze, Chima and Chioma are two different names.

Do not pay any attention to the moronic efulefu.

@OP

It is so because Africans continuously exude inherent stupidity. One typical good example is general acceptance of the brand name-Black. It is intellectually stupid to identify any human being with hue. When it comes to Asians, everybody appears to lose the sense of their color. If America or NATO attacks any African country under any auspices, the so-called foolish UA or OAU will either keep mute or support the position of European or American aggressors. Africans will be first to criticize anything indigenous to Africa be it culture, tradition or invention. God should not have wasted time creating Africa.

Katsumoto:
There was opposition to it the first time but it was ignored. Now the people of Lagos State want to correct the wrong. That an injustice (against the indigenous people of Lagos State) was committed the first time does not mean that it can't be corrected. As far as you are concerned, everything is tribalism

Granted the average citizen is not consulted when ministers are chosen but other states have their sons and daughters nominated and appointed as ministers. Why should Lagos be cheated out of that RIGHT? I am sure the representative of your state is from your state. If that is the case, then you have no moral right to accuse others of tribalism just because they want to enjoy the same privilege that you are enjoying in your state.

You can play with words all you can and feign ignorance for the leadership of Lagos State for nominating Olusegun Aganga not once but twice. Any person born, raised, resides and speaks the vernacular of a particular state is an indigene. Again, many people including the Yoruba were not original settlers in the acreage known as Eko and presently referred as Lagos State.

jason123:
You always see through this DEde1 of an A55 hole!!! Kudos!!!

@ Dede1
YOU ARE AN A55!!!!!

I have deadly aversion for deluded Agama Lizard such as you. Granted Nigeria claims to indulge in a system known as democracy, the recent political uproar about Olusegun Aganga’s ministerial nomination is instigated by tribalism period.

I have to pose this question the second time to a jackass such as you. Who are responsible for nominating candidates for ministerial appointment in the current political dispensation in Nigeria? Were the nominators of Olusegun Aganga in his first ministerial duty not privy to the latest phrase- “citizens indigenous to states”?

T9ksy:
That's his stock in trade na. Nothing new there, ojare.

Does he ever have anything tangible to say?

Owon to eye ba je ni eye ma gbe fo!

GIGO (garbage in, garbage out) ni bobo yen, jo!

You must be a worse joker than I had thought. In the wildest of your illusionary conjectures, you expect to inject tangible sense into intangible discussions you have with people who are intellectually challenged.

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=692105.msg8538852#msg8538852 date=1308335429]thank you, the guy just post rubbish all the time, no sense or what so ever

i am even surprised he did not have his fixation on awolowo today

very ethnocentric individual[/quote]At least in the political consciousness of many Nigerians, Awolowo was a political operative of slightly above average stratum.

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=692105.msg8538736#msg8538736 date=1308334317]so u are igala and u do not see the connection with northerners

shame on u, i think your pops might be disappointed with you [/quote]No person in his or her right senses will love to connect with anything that produced alj harem. You are living testimony of everything wrong with northern region of Nigeria.

Katsumoto:
What is it with you and Yoruba matters?

You argument is flawed on two counts

1. The decision to have each state represented at the ministerial level was done to ensure fairness to all. If we are to follow your argument, sons of Anambra State who are born all over the country could easily represent those states at the ministerial level. The decision, for all intents and purposes, was for citizens indigenous to states, represent those states and not for outsiders born in those states to represent them.

2. A representative of a state should not be imposed on the state. The people of Lagos are not against Aganga being a minister; they simply do not want to lose their slot while Edo state gains two slots. If Aganga must be a minister, then he must do so on the ticket of Edo state.

Your intentions are not lost on us. Soon, people like you will be clamouring for an Igbo son to represent Lagos state in the near future and you will use Aganga as precedent.

You are always keen for others (Lagos, Western region) to demonstate certain 'unity' by allowing outsiders to represent them when surely, you are yet to demonstrate the same political sophistication in your region/state. Again, Yoruba people are being taken for a ride due to their accommodating nature.

I have good memories about the time spent in Yoruba land.

Pal, let us apply rudimental deduction to the issue of Olusegun Aganga’s ministerial nomination. Who are the people responsible for nominating candidates for ministerial appointment in the current political dispensation in Nigeria? I do not think that every Yoruba person or the so-called indigenes of Lagos State are involved.

If Olusegun Aganga has been adjudged as indigene of Lagos State due to previous appointment as minister, I can resourcefully cite shameful and tribal ambition as the current instigator to the political noise against Aganga’s ministerial quest.

I am of the view you understood the connotation-“citizens indigenous to states”. Please remove any element of tribalism when deciphering the phrase.

Seriously, I do not monkey with imbeciles especially the ones that were born rude. Most people who claim Yoruba and Lagosian, including the foolish pair of step1 and ekt_bear, can not pass the scrutiny for indigene of Lagos State. I do not think the unscrupulous pair holds monopoly on the history of Eko.

@OP

This is classically hilarious. Anyway, by there fruits we shall known them. They do not need loudspeakers in a land where a mediocre is infallible.

The issue that surrounds Olusegun Aganga’s ministerial appointment is the classical example of everything wrong with the cesspit called Nigeria. The opposition to Aganga’s appointment as a minister is a shameful display of tribalism at the apex of Nigerian polity. Olusegun Aganga was born, raised and resides in Lagos therefore can claim an indigene of the state.

It is funny the group of people known to have the insatiable knack to claim anybody is rejecting Aganga. I hope Aganga did not pluck few apples from the exclusive gardens that belong to the so-called owners of the land.

Jbenue:
Reading a lot of this idiotic threads about how the number 2 , 3 and 4 positions are filled by northerners I find myself wondering how clueless some of my compatriots are, Simple geography you didn't learn in school. The 3rd highest office of the Federal Republic of Nigeria the Senate presidency is filled by David Mark an Idoma man from Benue state in the[b] MIDDLE Zap.I.N.G BELT [/b] not some dessert state in Imam land. Further more since GEJ is a self confessed Igbo man now David Mark is the only politician from a minority tribe to occupy a top 4 position in Nigeria, you Igbos, Hausas, and Yorubas make me laugh all this arguing you guys are doing as to who will be d next papa, when are you going to zone the presidency to a minority tribe with yourself inflitate egos and population figures .

The area known as Benue State was part and parcel of then northern region of Nigeria. The people from this area reiterated this fact during 1967 Nigeria/Biafra war when the sons and daughters of Benue joined forces with Nigerians to prosecute a war against Biafrans.

It is not funny to read a deliberate display of latent idiocy on this forum by a miscreant such as Jbenue. The OP sounds dumb in attempt to incoherently denigrate the state of northern region of Nigeria.

PAGAN 9JA:
true.true.true. The Igbos it seems r gettin too proud. i mean look at d Japs, i have neva seen ppeople who have progressed to such extents and are yet soo culturally oriented and have preserved their traditional religion, language and culture. God bless them.

whereas our Igbo, it seems, are losing all 3 of them. God help them.

This is a classic true statement about Ndigbo and in contrast with Japanese. When a person of Igbo extraction embraces cultural orientation which is homely to Igbo ethnicity, the ardent critic is definitely another Igbo who is delusional about 21st century and unfounded education.

Any group of people who forgot where they started a journey will never get to the destination. Japan has not forgotten about its culture amidst advancement in technology and education. Every level of education is impacted through Japanese language not English, French, Chinese, German or Spanish.

I guess Nigeria which is a product of colonialism remains stumbling block. Personally, I do not see any success in Igbo land since the area can not be regarded as nation state.

V1 ABIA Gabriella Ndu
V2 ABUJA Tessy Maduko
V3 ADAMAWA Nwando Ebeledike
V4 AKWA-IBOM Kome Osal
V5 ANAMBRA Ify Jewana
V6 BAYELSA Sophie Jewal
V7 BAUCHI Chantelle Unachukwu
V8 BENUE Josephine Igochie
V9 BORNO Gbemisola Shotade
V10 CROSS RIVER Agotha Eriom
V11 DELTA Chidebe Joyce
V12 EBONYI Delphine Okaban
V13 EDO Onabu Obehioye Liliane
V14 EKITI Awettada Ovoke
V15 ENUGU Obioma Isiwu
V16 GOMBE Jennifer Igwegbe
V17 IMO Urenna Onyeneke
V18 KOGI Okafor Ohichi
V19 KWARA Ngwu Ogonna Linda
V20 LAGOS Grace Ndam
V21 NASARAWA Menkiti Sylvia
V22 NIGER Amanda Simon
V23 OGUN Ige Temifope
V24 ONDO Tobi Banjoko
V25 OSUN Metu Kelechi
V26 OYO Florentina Nneka Agu
V27 PLATEAU Onaja Lovette
V28 RIVERS Mitchelle Ijeh
V29 TARABA Sylvia Nduka
V30 YOBE Lotachukwu Ugwu
V31 JIGAWA Eneka Gloria
V32 KADUNA Olanide Aroguma
V33 KANO Deborah Enebeli
V34 KATSINA Kenechukwu Offiah

http://www./2011/06/most-beautiful-girl-in-nigeria-contest.html

This could pass as most-beautiful-Igbo-girl-contest.

Katsumoto:
Isn't that your post?

The man was with John Christopher Taylor and Simon Jonas. He stopped at Aboh but he couldn't communicate in Igbo. Had his translators gone on break or holiday?

Please quit being lazy and a disciple of alj harem who is a known novice. What you referred as my post was partly the treacherous means your newly found prophet alj harem used to distort facts.

I suggest you make time to visit the “Foundation of Igbo Studies” by Louis Nnmadi Oraka and get enlightened by his juxtapositions.  There is no doubt wallowing in oxymora injected into this forum by alj harem will further set you back.

Katsumoto:
Give it up; alj harem has just schooled you.

They were Igbo yet they couldn't speak but you want to give them credit for Crowther's book. It doesn't matter what you think, Crowther is credited with writing the first Igbo book and the primer for the Igbo language.

Well done

When did J. F. Schon become John Christopher Taylor and Simon Jonas? I thought you had better comprehensible ability than alj harem. I guess it is time to give up on you. It is shame you categorized alj harem of all fallible person as a quotable source.

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=688856.msg8526170#msg8526170 date=1308169314]bros this man wrote in some igbo words

G. C. A. Oldendorp, a German missionary, was the first person to produce a book containing material written in Igbo, [b]which consisted of a few words and phrases. His book, Geschichte der Mission der Evangelischen Bruder auf den Carabischen (History of the Evangelistic Mission of the Brothers in the Caribbean), was published in 1777.
[/b]

he wrote small phrases and words which i bet even his does not understand

but yet u rather give him the credit than ajayi, anit u funny


John Christopher Taylor and Simon Jonas were among these. No permanent mission was founded. Schon was interested in Igbo and Hausa. At a stopover in Aboh, he tried to communicate in Igbo but was disappointed that people did not understand him. He then abandoned Igbo study for some twenty years


what about this 2, why anit u giving them credit for following ajayi and later decided to leave him half way[/quote]Another Norris expedition on the Niger. He took two missionary linguists from the staff of the CMS (Church Missionary Society) in Freetown, J. F. Schon and Samuel Ajayi Crowther (the latter a Yoruba-born ex-slave and teacher), along with twelve interpreters, including Igbo who came from emancipated slave families settled in Freetown. John Christopher Taylor and Simon Jonas were among these. No permanent mission was founded. Schon was interested in Igbo and Hausa. At a stopover in Aboh, he tried to communicate in Igbo but was disappointed that people did not understand him. He then abandoned Igbo study for some twenty years
http://www.columbia.edu/itc/mealac/pritchett/00fwp/igbo/igbohistory.html

From your previous post as shown above, I should not given them credit in the same manner many people such as you failed to give them credit because they were of Igbo ancestral parentage.

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=688856.msg8526092#msg8526092 date=1308168554]ewu, the thread states the first nigerian not first german

amu onya ara [/quote]Nnaa, you are real Efulefu of dirt level. Do you read what you post? I guess in the previous post you deliberately omitted “G. C. A. Oldendorp, a German missionary,” to suit your skewed ways.

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=688856.msg8526009#msg8526009 date=1308167719] ewu read

was the first person to produce a book containing material written in Igbo, which consisted of a few words and phrases. His book, Geschichte der Mission der Evangelischen Bruder auf den Carabischen (History of the Evangelistic Mission of the Brothers in the Caribbean), was published in 1777. The first book in Igbo, Isoama-Ibo a primer, was produced in 1857 by Samuel Ajayi Crowther, an ex-slave and teacher who was also an outstanding African linguist, leader, and Africa's first Anglican bishop.

There are numerous Igbo dialects, some of which are not mutually intelligible. The standard written form of Igbo is based on the Owerri and Umuahia dialects and has been in use since 1962.

https://www.omniglot.com/images/writing/igbo.gif

http://www.omniglot.com/writing/igbo.htm[/quote]You are a compound fool. No wonder you are a celebrated jackass.

Please Olodo read:

G. C. A. Oldendorp, a German missionary, was the first person to produce a book containing material written in Igbo, which consisted of a few words and phrases. His book, Geschichte der Mission der Evangelischen Bruder auf den Carabischen (History of the Evangelistic Mission of the Brothers in the Caribbean), was published in 1777. The first book in Igbo, Isoama-Ibo a primer, was produced in 1857 by Samuel Ajayi Crowther, an ex-slave and teacher who was also an outstanding African linguist, leader, and Africa's first Anglican bishop.


The word-produced does not equate wrote. In film or drama production, the producer is not the writer of the scripts.

Katsumoto:
Do you see how twisted your argument is? A man claimed to be Yoruba, yet you challenge his claim. Were you there when he was born? I suppose Bishop Ajayi Crowther also wasn't Yoruba since he received his education in Sierra leone never mind that he was born in Oyo. Do you know that there is approximately 3000 miles between Freetown and Lagos? To get to Lagos, these returnee slaves would have travelled through Sierra leone, Liberia, Ivory Coast, Ghana, Togo, Benin. So they went through all that arduos journey just to have the privilege of claiming Yoruba?

If these returnee slaves were so desperate to leave Sierra Leone, why didn't they stop in any of those countries?What was so special about Lagos in the 19th century? Especially for people who had schooled in England. For focks sake, give it a rest. Slaves were taken from all over Southern Nigeria, why are you so concerned about Yoruba returnee slaves? When the British started freeing slaves from slave ships, they couldn't return them to their original countries, so they set them free at Freetown. Slaves from Nigeria, Ghana, Liberia, Benin, Gambia, etc were freed at Sierra Leone. Are you suggesting that they all went to Lagos and claimed to be Yoruba.

And so what if the first secondary school in Nigeria was 10 years old when Sapara Williams finished Law School? Did he claim he went to school in Yorubaland. Did Returnee slaves come from another continent? Were they not Africans who were taken forcefully from their homes and villages? Instead of focusing on returnee Yoruba slaves, why not spend your time trying to understand where Igbo returnee slaves went if you are so concerned that the numbers of returnee slaves gave the Yorubas an undue advantage? Unless you are trying to state that some of the returnee slaves who claimed to be Yoruba were Igbo. Why is everything always a competition to you?

The Yorubas in Salvador, Brazil today may not be able to tell you where their forebearers were taken from originally but they know they are Yoruba; they speak the language, bear the names and still engage in Yoruba Orisha worship. I don't want to share personal experiences to strenghten this argument; common sense alone should be sufficient. If two Yoruba slaves have kids in captivity and they are freed in freetown. Do you think they will immediately have the means to return home? No, they will settle where they and when they have the means, they will return home. In any case not all freed slaves bothered to return home.

Quit telling people where they are from; it isn't your place. If a man says that he is Yoruba, then he is Yoruba.

Probably, you did not notice that first poster realized that Christopher Alexander Williams-Sapara had law firm in Lagos even before FRA Williams was born yet the poster, who I guessed is Yoruba, stated that the “First indigenous Nigerian Law Firm - Thomas, Williams and Kayode”. Does it mean that law firms established by Sapara, Moore and the father of FRA Williams who was returnee were not indigenous Nigerian Law Firms?

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=688856.msg8525954#msg8525954 date=1308167100]keep deceiving yourself, the person that wrote spoken igbo to word is samuel crowther and it is not history all over the world

so stop changing history to fit your low self esteem, ok[/quote]I suggest you shut up punk. Samuel Crowther did not speak a word of Igbo language. Please do some exploratory research and stop being fooled by the junk you scoop from Internet.

Katsumoto:
Be man enough to either apologise or find the post that I made that was tribalistic. To help you decide which of the following helped you in reaching that false conclusion?

1. That I proved that Emmanuel Okala was not the first Nigerian to win the CAF African footballer of the year; in fact he never won it[/b]2. That I stated that Brigadier Ogundipe was in the country when Gowon was selected as the compromise Head of State after the July 66 coup
[b]3. That I stated that Bishop Ajayi Crowther wrote the Primer for the Igbo and Nupe Languages
If you are unable to do either, then clearly you have no honour.

Actually, Okalla was the first African Footballer of the Year. The African Sports Journalists Union, ASJU was the true representatives of CAF since it acted on the behalf of the Supreme Council for Sports in Africa and was setup by the Organization of African Unity. ASJU was vexed because the France Football Awarder continued to honor majority of players from the Francophone countries.


Although credit should be given to Samuel Ajayi Crowther  for his help in producing the book, Isoama-Ibo Primer. However, it must be known that he did not write the book. The book was written by two Igbo freed slaves who resided in Freetown, Sierra Leoan-John Christopher Taylor and Simon Jonas.

Wizardofoz: Quote from: Mai Suya on June 12, 2011, 10:27 PM
As it turns out, she is in fact, according to Wikipedia, the First Female Vice chancellor of a Nigerian University.

@ topic,

Sir Louis Mbanefo - first Nigerian Lawyer.

First Nigerian Liar On This Thread - Mai Suya


@Topic:

First Nigerian Lawyer - Christopher Sapara Williams

First Nigerian To Be Called To The English Bar - Christopher Sapara Williams

First Nigerians To Be Made A Queen's Counsel - Chief Frederick Rotimi Alade Williams & Chief H.O. Davies

First indigenous Nigerian Law Firm - Thomas, Williams and Kayode
First Nigerian Senior Advocate Of Nigeria - Chief Frederick Rotimi Alade Williams

First Nigerian  Attorney General Of Nigeria - Chief Frederick Rotimi Alade Williams

First Nigerian solicitor to the Supreme Court of Nigeria - Chief Frederick Rotimi Alade Williams

First Nigerian Senior Advocate Of The Masses - Chief Gani Fawehinmi

This is a funny thread indeed and some posters appear to be funnier than the thread through flaunting laziness and ignorance as they indulge in goofy public statements.

The above post by Wizardofoz is one of the main reasons I detest/like the scenario of “first in Nigeria” debate because it helps dispel certain innuendos and fallacies abound in Nigerian society.

The name of Christopher Alexander Sapara should not be mentioned in the shenanigans about “first in Nigeria” because he was not born the in the acreage that later became Nigeria. He was a returnee and son of Sierra Leonean freed slave who claimed Yoruba. When he graduated from law school in London, the first secondary school built in the geographical expression called Nigeria was ten (10) years old.

This quote of “First indigenous Nigerian Law Firm - Thomas, Williams and Kayode” has validated my stand that returnees who were being claimed by Yoruba to swell academic rank is total fraud.


FRA Williams was a good lawyer. However, FRA Williams was still in Law school when the Sir Louis N Mbanaefo established a law firm in Onicha. The law firm established by Thomas, Williams and Kayode can not the be the “first indigenous Nigerian Law Firm.

FRA Williams was the not the first Minister of Justice and Attorney-General of Nigeria. The honor goes to Dr T O Elias who was appointed minister in 1960 when Nigeria became independent state.

Ikengawo:
wow. if this is true my opinion of rochas is sinking by the second! this guy's out of his mind!
please cite your source cause there's a higher chance that this is speculation then truth

Now you realized opinions are terrible things to have unfortunately everybody had one. Again, my people say “anything scooped from the side of pot ends at the side of mouth”. All those political lover peddlers have shunned this thread.

Rochas Okorocha is not different from any other Nigerian who has no business with democracy. These elected LGA councilors should proceed to court in oder to stop Okorocha in his tracks.

Also, they should use this opportunity to ascertain the validity of Okorocha as governor of Imo State since gubernatorial election in Imo State was surrounded by mystery.

Onlytruth:
Bros Dede1

Are you the same as the Dede in this book by Onyefuru (one of the officers involved in the January 1966 coup)?

I strongly suspect it may be you. I read this book sometime last year and have wondered ever since.

Bros, the Dede in the book does not relate to my moniker. You sure know I would not attempt to join Nigeria armed forces as a private. Thanks for looking out for your bros.

T9ksy:
Are you really sure about the bolded portion of your post?
I seem to recollect Ojukwu giving an interview where he said he wasn't sure if he had pre-knowledge of the Jan 1966 coup. Pity I can't lay my hands on the interview at the moment.

As for your last line, wtf are you guys going to [color=#990000]"get even " with?
Your ilk just never learn from history, do you now?
Bring your katakata down to my region again and we will not hesitate to replicate the "Ore" treatment once more.

Get even ko! get extinguished ni!!![/color]

I am not surprise this nonsensical crap is a product of your skewed intuitive machination. You are a well known historical revisionist. If I had not read your recollection about the bombing of Lagos in general and Onipanu in particular by Biafran air force, I would have given a benefit of doubt to your ability to remember things correctly.

As for the Ore debacle, I guess apple does not fall far from the tree. Believe me; my folks are good at learning from history. The problem is coward dies many times before its death.