₦airaland Forum

Katsumoto:
You are hilarious; you are such a pedant. Did you not read 'President Azikiwe and the service chiefs were so advised by the Chief Justice and Attorney General of the Federation'? If you did, why did you bother to focus on Attorney General ignoring the Chief Justice that precedes it?

Whenever any publication does not suit your argument, you discredit it without offering alternative publication/literature. Who does the minister of defence report to? If he reports to the PM, then do you need to read a document before you know the service chiefs report to the PM. Do all civil servants report to the PM directly or should all civil servants including drivers and cleaners report to the PM directly. Is that not why we have a chain of command?

Pal, I am simply following your plank of the argument. Even the crap of service chiefs politely telling President about refusal of orders was a joke at best. All I wanted you to understand that the situation was politically charged and would have led to crisis in the national assembly if Azikiwe had pursued it because there was no constituted government and such there was no cabinet ministers. As for the Attorney-General stuff, it is just reminder that all Internet objects are not facts.

Katsumoto:
Monarchy in England and ceremonial presidency - The only difference being that the Queen is not elected. Otherwise, they are only concerned with ceremonial matters and are not involved in the running of the country. Is the Queen not the Head of State of Australia, Canada, Jamaica, and other commonwealth countries? Does she have a say in how those countries are run? There was a constitutional crisis in January 65.

7. Constitutional crisis of January 1965:
Following the controversial Federal Election of December 1964, ceremonial President Azikiwe of the NCNC, urged by radical intelligentsia, refused to invite Prime Minister Balewa of the NPC to form a government and issued orders mobilizing the Army to enforce his authority to suspend the government, annul the elections and appoint a temporary interim administrator to conduct elections.  However, the oath of allegiance of the officer corps was not only to the Commander in Chief but also to the government of Nigeria.

The Army Act (#26 of 1960) and the Navy Act (#9 of 1960) were also clear on lines of authority and control.While the Army and Navy were "under the general authority" of the Defence Minister in matters of "command, discipline and administration", the authority for operational use and control was vested in the Council of Ministers and the Prime Minister.  President Azikiwe and the service chiefs were so advised by the Chief Justice and Attorney General of the Federation.

Thus the Navy Commander, Commodore Wey politely told the President that the Navy (under him), the Army (under Major General Welby-Everard) and the Police (under Louis Edet) had decided to refuse his orders.   After a week of cliff hanging tension, in which the military stood aside, a political compromise was eventually reached and a government of "national unity" formed under Prime Minister Balewa.

http://www.waado.org/nigerdelta/nigeria_facts/MilitaryRule/Omoigui/Prelude-1966Coup.html

The substantive President, Nnamdi Azikiwe, also of eastern origin, had left the country in late 1965 first for Europe, then on a health cruise to the caribbean, after allegedly being tipped off by his cousin, Major Ifeajuna, one of the masterminds of the coup and, some say, overall leader. Interestingly, (assuming reports that he had foreknowledge are true) Azikiwe did not notify his alliance partner, the Prime Minister, Alhaji Tafawa Balewa, with whom he had clashed over control of the armed forces during the Constitutional crisis of January 1965, following the controversial December 1964 federal elections.
http://www.gamji.com/nowa11.htm

the constitutional crisis of January 1965, following the controversial Federal Elections of December 1964, when ceremonial Head-of-State, chief Nnamdi Azikiwe of the NCNC, urged by radical intelligentsia, refused to invite Prime Minister Tafawa Balewa of the NPC to form a government; the suppression of the Tiv revolt, etc.
http://www.marxist.com/wole-soyinka-1.htm

I know you are likely to disagree with the above but I post for those who are not aware.

Are you this gullible that you swallow every junk posted or written by individuals from southern Nigeria who tried very hard to curry favor from northern politicians? At least, you have agreed it is a waste of bandwidth comparing ceremonial presidency with monarchy.

What you posted in bold collaborated with my stand that service chiefs did not report to Prime Minister but Minister of Defense. The element of deployment of troops rests with Prime Minister. However, the President could have gone around it because the time in question, there was no constituted government and would have escalated the crisis to the national assembly.

It is unfortunate that you decided to shot yourself on the foot with inclusion of Minister of Justice and Attorney-General. Remember that government has been dissolved and the post of Attorney-General is vacant. Azikiwe might have been advised by the Chief Justice of the federation not the Attorney-General.

I suggest you read my previous post again. Please do this with unbiased mind.

Katsumoto:
That is such a load of crap. I guess Queen Elizabeth has more powers than the Prime Minister since she has more state dinners and can dissolve parliament. No matter how you try to dress it, Balewa had the powers while Zik was a ceremonial president. I guess Zik also thought he had more powers than Balewa during the constitutional crisis of January 65 until he was told point blank by the service chiefs that they report to Balewa and not Zik.

I know you are not a lazy scholar and urge of you to read 1963 constitution. It will be nice if you could decease from comparing ceremonial presidency with monarchy. Please put a definite stop to the conjectural nonsense about service chiefs telling Azikiwe that they only report to Prime Minister. The service chiefs were not meant to report to Prime Minister but to Minister of Defense. There was never a constitutional crisis as you would want us to believe. One of the authorities the constitution bestowed on Prime Minister was the deployment or movement of troops and other law enforcement agents during crisis. Even as it was, the president had other means to overcome such vested powers if he or she chose to do so.

Katsumoto:
This guy must be high on something!!!!

I guess I am responsible for instigating a group of Igbo officers to kill non-Igbo citizens. I must also be responsible for the political marriage between the Easterners and Northerners. Damn, I must also be responsible for ensuring that Zik assisted in the formation of Nigeria. Of course, I am responsible for Ojukwu taking a knife to a gun fight. Yes I am responsible.

There has never being a time in the history of Nigeria where Easterners and Northerners colluded in any form of political agreement either to fight or gain advantage over other regions. It is a borderline asinine to insinuate any form of political marriage between Northern and Eastern regions of Nigeria.

When NCNC and NPC formed the coalition government, it was not Northern and Eastern region show. I shall recall while the coalition government lasted, parties such as NEPU, Action Group and UMBC joined coalition as junior partners to NCNC. It was also the same arrangement that saw NNDP and NDC joined coalition as junior partners to NPC. Again, the last time I checked though, NCNC was not exclusive club of eastern region.

As a matter of fact, the only socio-politico-economic marriage that had been ever consummated happened between Northern, Western and Midwestern regions of Nigeria. It was the political marriage that created everlasting and undeniable enemy of Biafra.

It is either a display of intellectual dishonesty or plain stupidity when few Nigerians write that Azikiwe chose to server under Tafawa Balewa. Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe did not serve under Tafawa Balewa. In fact, Azikiwe had more considerable constitutional authority than Tafawa Balewa.

The constitutional authority to request the dissolution of government rested with the President. Nobody could be Prime Minister without the constitutional consent of the President. On Nigeria’s Independence Day ceremony, it was the President who inspected the mounted armed forces honor guard not the Prime Minister. I still can not fathom where the Prime Minister had outright constitutional superiority over the President to awfully instigate the notion that Azikiwe serverd under Tafawa Balewa.

seanet02:
INCLUDING KIDNAPPING AND HUMAN EATING YES THEY WERE BECAUSE THEY FOUGHT A WAR THEY DID NOT PLANNED AND GOT BATTERED SEVERELY

If you are not a jackass, I demand you name one ethnic group in Nigeria that could withstand the onslaught of moronic Nigeria and its armed forces, British advisers, Soviet arm suppliers, Arab financiers and neighboring African collaborators in war of attrition for one week and still debate the issues.

amazonia:
Something is wrong somewhere. Emeagwali used the existing computer of his time
to program a school required modeling to certify his degree requirement in civil
engineering. In the mean time, entered and won award with his modeling. On the
long run, the schooling find the model unsatisfactory for his PhD requirement.
For anybody who is familiar with U.S schools. All departments, especially engineering's,
business and sciences usually require some type of modelings that require writing and
using computer program. But this does not make the student a computer programmer nor
a computer engineer. so Emeagwali is a BS, Ms Civil Engineer. My man should respite
his Lura, instead of arrogating other nonsenses.

Do you understand the issue in discuss? High-performance and parallel computing has nothing to do with models or senior projects while obtaining BS or MS in Civil Engineering or any Engineering discipline for that matter.  Most of the individuals involved in the high-performance and parallel computing had PhD already.

Onlytruth:
To rub this thing in.

I just looked through that award site and found that it is dominated by Japanese, Americans, Indians and Igbo. 

No other Africans are on that list. Go figure. 

Retards are trying in futility to pull down a genuis.

Nkiti zuo n'afia udene!  Ain't happening. 

Bros, the list is not for punks who would dwell on conjectural fairy tales. It is all about serious computing. I am baffled at the extent ethnocentrism could blind people in Nigeria to stupor. You could find that Emeagwali was not in honorable mentioned box but in first place performer with prize money. Again, the list has been dominated by individuals from USA, UK, Japan and India as you have observed.

Without massive rigging of the election, GEJ can not win Bayelsa with ease talk less of Nigeria. Democracy is a game of numbers and last time I checked, the number is not on side of GEJ.

I can not believe few Nigerians have much time to waste in arguing about Emeagwali and Internet. Internet is the brainchild of ARPA or DARPA created by USA government after USSR successfully launched Sputnik into space. 

Emeagwali should be a fool if he had remotely claimed to have invented Internet. It is clearly people who are driven by hatred and jealousy have arrogated the invention of Internet to Emeagwali.

Philip Emeagwali is one of the numerous talented individuals who excelled in high-performance and parallel computing and recognized through the ACM Gordon Bell award. ACM Gordon Bell award could be compared to more popular Nobel Prize in certain instances. Emeagwali’s work earned 1 million dollar prize money in 1989 as a first place performer. Philip Emeagwali is not the first person to win prize money since the inception of ACM Gordon Bell award in 1987 and definitely shall not be the last.

Check the link below.

http://www.sc2000.org/bell/pastawrd.htm

chyz:
[size=18pt]2011: Ohanaeze backs Jonathan[/size]
Published on 16 October 2010 with 0 comments   
LEONARD OKACHIE

https://www.champion.com.ng/imageholder/200px-Ohanaeze_logo.jpg

APEX Igbo socio-cultural organization, Ohanaeze Ndigbo has urged the Igbo nation to support en-masse, Dr. Goodluck Jonathan in his 2011 Presidential ambition.

The group in a statement signed by its President-General, Amb. Raph Uwechue, said after wide consultation over several months, among Igbo people at home and abroad, it has endorsed Jonathan, who is a credible new-generation Presidential candidate that has emerged from the South-South geo-political zone.
It positioned that it does not subscribe  to  the  creeping  intensification of the North-South political divide, through a two-way zoning formula, stressing that there is little doubt that such a bi-polar demarcation of our country seriously militates against the desired progressive consolidation of national unity.
Ohanaeze Ndigbo however said that it firmly believes in the reality and absolute equality of the six zones and holds the view that the topmost executive office in the land Prime Minister or President, which has eluded the  two geo-political zones of South-South and South-East since the birth of the nation a century ago, should now go to them in turn in unbroken succession.

The statement partly reads: At independence in 1960, what our founding fathers settled for was a Federal structure with three regions, East-North-West.  Clearly, this decisive colonial concept of two detachable alternate units, North and South, a residual echo of Lord Lugard's Amalgamation of 1914, did not survive into independent Nigerian nation.  A fourth region- the Midwest, was created by regular constitutional amendment in 1963
Consequently, the politically powerful and strategic positions of President and Vice-President, Senate President and Deputy Speaker of the House of Representatives and other important national offices, by established federal character convention, always look into appropriate account of the distribution and rotation of offices among the six geo-political zones.

Ohanaeze Ndigbo is strongly committed to this equity-oriented formula, which creates a comfortable sense of belonging for all Nigerians by ensuring fairness in dealing with the interests of our various  ethnic groups, thus reinforcing the needed unity  in diversity and stability of very promising but still fledgling nation
http://www.champion.com.ng/displaycontent.asp?pid=1359

What is written in the bold does not support the alleged action the group in its alleged support for GEJ. Federal character reference in the Nigerian constitution does not deal with competitive positions unless the political parties agree on a certain formula to archive such tall order.

The PDP pursued such principle by enacting section 7-2C in its constitution yet the candidate this organization has been alleged to support flouted such formula. If PDP wins the control of National Assembly, there will be absolutely no room for zoning the positions come 2011 because it will be either straight majority or agreement between zones.

Simply put, Igbo girls are “World Class”.

If the post that alleged Ohanaeze’s support of GEJ is true, Ndigbo have once again proven they have long distance miles to cover in order to grasp intrigues of politics. I guess Ndigbo should hold the present leadership of Ohanaeze responsible for unforeseen political consequences that will follow.

There is no development without a process and there is no process without a policy. If you watch northern or the western Nigeria closely, you will detect a sign of political continuity. This is a statement that can not be associated with east.

There is no way GEJ shall win 2011 election without northern Nigeria unless through rigging thereby opening the door of chaos.