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LordReed:
Kindly quote anywhere I said science belongs to atheists.

Ok so it is faith not logic that solves problems. Bwahahahahahaha!

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I just love this your Bwahahahahahaha!

basilico:
Yeah right. Nothing good can come out of his actions or words.
They were waiting for him to deckarecwar in Venezuela if you didn't get my copy and paste post.

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You are still spinning it.

We need two things to be free from the frog in the rock.

1. Mandatory real time electronic transmission of results

2. United opposition.

Without 2, gbagbe e.

basilico:
😂🔥 TRUMP PULLS THE ULTIMATE MEDIA HEAD FAKE — AND THEY FELL FOR IT

President Trump just executed the mother of all trolls — and the media walked straight into it.

Using Tucker Carlson, knowingly or unknowingly, to float the idea that a war with Venezuela was imminent, Trump sent every major network into full panic mode.

What happened next?

They cleared prime-time coverage.
They went wall-to-wall.
They tuned in tens of millions of Americans.

And instead of war?

Trump delivered a full recap of his first-year accomplishments, calmly, confidently — in front of Christmas decorations no less. 🎄😂

Absolute chess.

He also told Americans something the media hates admitting:
👉 Illegal aliens were draining THEIR hard-earned tax dollars

No spin. No apology. Just facts.

The result?
• The media did his distribution for him
• His message reached everyone
• And the panic narrative collapsed in real time

Love him or hate him, one thing is undeniable:

Trump is the undisputed king of political trolling — and arguably the most effective media manipulator to ever sit in the Oval Office.

They never see it coming.
And they never learn.

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It is in the nature of baptized religious fundamentalist Trumpists to spin his every nasty callous word or act as intentional genius.
George Orwell described this well in Animal Farm.

Kukutente23:
You have still not explained the International appeal and marketability you're talking about. International appeal to who and what?
Marketability to who and what?
You just sound like a megaphone for talking points that's baseless and meaningless

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Na wah for you. Can't you stop crying. Look this subject is not important. I hope in future we can share thoughts on more important matters, politics, theology and philosophy, being examples.

Kukutente23:
So we can all agree that you have no idea what you're saying
You're just mumbling words together hoping it makes sense
Cause if it's about football popularity then Cameroun should go ahead of Nigeria
If it's about international viewers then Italy should go ahead of Nigeria as well

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What are you on about? When did I conclude that the more popular country should go? Whats wrong with you?
I only countered your statement linking marketability to the capacity of Nigerians to attend: namely I pointed out that that is not the only metric, marketability is also about the international appeal of a participant. Period.

I know you are smart enough to absorb this and already have, its just that pride again.
Good morning.

Kukutente23:
How does being a more well known nation make any difference for fifa in terms of marketing. Cameroun is more well known in footballing terms than Nigeria and they are not going
As we can boast of Osimhen, they can also boast of Wan Bisaka among others

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The mistake you are making is I didn't mention FIFA. I mentioned international viewers. And yeah, Naija is more popular internationally. Thaz all.

Kukutente23:
So you can explain the aspect of marketing that makes Nigeria a better proposition than DRC

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Its a more well known nation and footballing nation, more famous in all respects, with a more significant footballing history and more significant international stars of note which international viewers would be interested in watching, e.g: Osimen.

Kukutente23:
That's your ignorant belief that fifa will go about marketing the world cup with Nigeria. The world cup is a brand. Bigger countries with better footballing culture than Nigeria have failed to make the world cup in recent times and that has never stopped or affected fifa marketing. Italy readily comes to mind.
So quit the empty hyping. In any case, fifa is directly responsible for ticket sales and broadcast rights and I doubt Nigeria's absence will have any impact on the two

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Jesus Christ. Again, I didnt say or suggest the bold. And who doesnt know the red? You really need to calm yourself.

The point is simple. You suggested in reply to someone that Nigeria is not important market wise because not many Nigerians can even afford to attend. My point was simply that its not by Nigerians attending. Nigeria in participation is a better marketing proposition internationally. Thats all.

Looks like you are still sulking from yessterday. Take a chill pill. Good morning.

Kukutente23:
So you also believe FIFA wouldn't want Nigeria to miss out because of the revenue Nigeria brings? I'm ashamed to be associated with you!!
So what happened in 2022? I guess FIFA became broke abi

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I didn't say I believe anything specific. I just expressed the view that Nigeria is more marketable internationally as against your view that the revenue concerned would be about the attendance of Nigerians. That's all.

And no, you are not associated with me. I am only a perfect stranger to you who is vigorously trying to refine and train you.

RaptorX:
Bubu would have expressed shock at the accusation.

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Just as he did with that of Gandollar.

Kukutente23:
Which revenue
You guys and empty chest beating
How many Nigerians can afford to go to the world cup by themselves with our comatose currency

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Its not by Nigerians attending only. Nigeria is a more marketable participant for international viewers than DRC. In fact I would bet a great slice of international viewers may not know of the existence of DRC.

wonlasewonimi:
Nice one for getting the guy sacked. He would have to turn to gistloverblog a lot to get this refinery going smoothly.

LagosOrigin:
This is the kind of cult-like organic followers that tinubu wished he had.

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I dont think he can ever mingle freely with the public in his life again. He is too greatly detested.

AdUlAM:
More like hyena of bourdilloun.

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You are right in saying "hyena" for there is truly something nasty, rough, rascally, corrupt, vicious, dirty and obnoxious about the Hyena, all of which Tinubu embodies.

wonlasewonimi, you now see what I meant by what Dangote's personal involvement will accomplish.

MaxInDHouse:
Go and teach what you know at least i've gotten many here who respected me for what i teach.

Let me add what used to make you cry:

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As I have always told you, this only shows your need for validation and discloses an inferiority complex.
Its also very creepy. It suggests mental illness.

Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣so it's the archangel's voice and Jesus that would raise the dead?

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As you laugh remember that I do not believe in the Bible. You do. I am only repeating what it says.

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You mean that Jesus does not have the power to resurrect the dead?

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That verse says "the Lord." How do you know its not a reference to God?

Again, who raised Jesus himself from the dead?

Truthseeker10:
I simply asked you whose voice is raising up the dead according to 1 Thessalonians 4:16.

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The Lord, in company of the voice of an arch angel.

Or are you implying that there is another voice that can raise the dead apart from the voice of Jesus?

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According to the bible, God reserves that power. After all who is said to have raised Jesus himself from the dead?

Kukutente23:
I think you should invite him to live with you. You fit each other

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Still sulking?
What a kid.

Truthseeker10:
So Oga what voice is raising up the dead according to 1 Thessalonians 4:16?

King James Bible
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

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It says with the voice of an archangel. It does not say Michael.

After all, God has spoken through even humans has he not?

MaxInDHouse:
So if you believe it's not God's word and it has errors then what exactly do you expect from such a book?

Ọmọ stop deceiving yourself if you don't believe the Bible Jesus said i should not share God's precious words with you:

“Do not give what is holy to dogs nor throw your pearls before swine, so that they may never trample them under their feet and turn around and rip you open" Matthew 7:6

So go for what you believe (trust) faith is not what your type cherish! 2Thessalonians 3:2

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It is not up to you to give the bible to me I am sure I had read it several times while you were still a child or even not yet born.

MaxInDHouse:
Funny atheist!
Who cares what you think about yourself?
Answer the question or do what your other friend did when i told him that "butter no be monkey food"
Once he heard that he mello.

So i will ask you again.

Do you believe that the Bible is God's inspired word?

If not there's nothing to discuss with you!🙂

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I am not an atheist and I have already said the Bible is not inerrant.

Truthseeker10:
So if 1 Thessalonians 4:16 does not mention Michael, whose voice of an archangel is involved in the resurrection of the dead according to that verse?

King James Bible
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:


Is there anywhere in the bible where the plural "Archangels" is used?

Below in the screenshot is the commentary that you provided in this thread. Do you agree with the scholars below?

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There is no reason to require that "archangels" appears in plural, and even if Michael is the only Archangel, the fact remains that this verse still does not translate to him being Jesus. Because it says the Lords descends WITH the voice of an archangel, that could mean in company of an archangel.

MaxInDHouse:
Do you believe the Bible as God's word?🙂

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Stop this at once MAX and point to the verse which says Michael is Jesus, otherwise I will have to discipline you.

Truthseeker10:
Below is 1 Thessalonians 4:16.

King James Bible
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

Who has the voice of an Archangel in the above verse?

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The text does not disclose, neither does it mention Michael.

Note that other versions say "an archangel" not "the arch angel" leaving open the possibility that there are other archangels.

Kukutente23:
Lol
Okpomoriorior

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What should we do about this man's case? He does not appear sane. Dont you think we should trace him and alert the authorities wherever he lives as he might be a danger to himself and others?

MaxInDHouse:
You need to know something important about faith.

There is PREACHING and TEACHING both aren't the same thing what you need first is preaching which will help to make you trust the Bible it's after trusting the Bible that you need to be taught what is found written in it.

Imagine a teacher who wants to teach a group of students a subject but the students don't trust the textbook so the teacher needs to first convince the students why they need the textbook before using it to teach them otherwise he will just continue speaking to the air!🙂

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Grammar.

Here are all the references to Michael in the Bible -

The Old Testament (Book of Daniel)
In the Book of Daniel, Michael appears as a powerful heavenly prince who fights spiritual battles on behalf of Israel.

Daniel 10:13: An angel (likely Gabriel) explains to Daniel that he was delayed by the "prince of the kingdom of Persia" for 21 days until "Michael, one of the chief princes," came to help him.

Daniel 10:21: The angel further identifies Michael's unique role, telling Daniel, "There is no one who contends by my side against these except Michael, your prince."

Daniel 12:1: In a prophecy about the end times, Michael is described as "the great prince who has charge of your people." The verse says he will "arise" during a time of unprecedented distress to deliver those whose names are written in the book.

The New Testament
In the New Testament, Michael is explicitly given the title of "Archangel" and is shown leading the heavenly armies.

Jude 1:9: This verse refers to a specific event where "the archangel Michael," while contending with the devil, disputed about the body of Moses. Rather than pronouncing a "slanderous judgment," Michael simply said, "The Lord rebuke you!"

Revelation 12:7–8: During a great war in heaven, "Michael and his angels" fight against the dragon (Satan). Michael and his forces prevail, and the dragon is cast down to the earth.

Other Possible References
While not mentioned by name, some scholars and traditions associate Michael with other passages:

1 Thessalonians 4:16: This verse mentions that the Lord will descend from heaven with the "voice of the archangel." Since Michael is the only angel explicitly called an archangel in the Bible, many believe this refers to him.

Joshua 5:13–15: Some traditions identify the "commander of the army of the Lord" who appeared to Joshua as Michael, though the text does not name him
*Culled.

Now show me which one indicates that he is Jesus.

Truthseeker10:
So between Michael and Jesus, who does the Bible say would raise the dead with his voice?

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Certainly not Michael, and what is the relevance of this question?

MaxInDHouse:
Do you believe (trust) whatever is found written in the Bible?

If not there's no need arguing over what is written because you don't even believe it in the first place.

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The Bible is not inerrant but like all other scripture, there is much truth and wisdom to be found in it.
Also, I dont need to believe in it to be able to have a proper discussion on what and what it says and what and what it does not say.
And it most certainly does not say that Jesus is Michael.

MaxInDHouse:
Another atheist?🙂

Abeg butter no be monkey food, leave this for Bible believers only!🙂

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I am not an atheist and if after so many years you do not know that, that only shows what a poor student and reader you are.

MaxInDHouse:
Please do you believe what Daniel said in the below verse:


“At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people—everyone whose name is found written in the book—will be delivered. ‭Daniel 12:1 NIV‬

Please note the highlighted in red and you are free to cross-check the quoted scriptures in any Bible version of your choice.

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This does not show that Jesus is Michael.