₦airaland Forum

FreeIgboho:
Where does he say that he was lying when he said he and the Father were one and that seeing him was seeing the Father, and that he was actually Angel Michael just pulling your leg, he-he!
Point us to exactly where he said that

As I said, if you cannot see the clarity of his explanation, who am I to explain better. I leave it to you.
After all you are someone who can say that a word does not mean what it means, so I have no hope of getting to you.

MaxInDHouse:
You can continue crying for all i care people from different schools of thought have spoken:

You have no idea how it makes you look each time you go to post quotes of people praising you. It comes across as very insecure, and desperate for validation. It is not a good thing at all. Grow beyond it please.

FreeIgboho:
Yet you don't believe him when he said he and the Father are one, and that the Father is in him and he in the Father

Stop this. Jesus himself explained what he meant by this.

John 17:11
"And I am no longer in the world, but they are in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, keep them in your name, which you have given me, that they may be one, even as we are one."

John 17:21
"that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be in us, so that the world may believe that you have sent me."

John 17:22-23
"The glory that you have given me I have given to them, that they may be one even as we are one, I in them and you in me, that they may become perfectly one, so that the world may know that you sent me and loved them even as you loved me."

If the foregoing explanations by Jesus himself of what he meant by "one" and "I am in the father and the father in me" - are not sufficient for you, then no wahala.

Gerhards:
You should read what you wrote before he replied, I understand common sense is not for everybody. Engaging you is a waste of time, Spit

Thank you very much. It's so pitiful the way these guys act. Just criticize the Govt and you must be Igbo. In a country of over 300 tribes.

They don't even stop to contemplate the illogicality. As though only Igbos voted against BAT. As though no one voted for Atiku. As though to criticise the govt, you must be Igbo. In fact, as though there is also something wrong with being Igbo.

Ttalk:
Where did you see me say DeepSight is Igbo? Try make sense na, abi why is your thought so shallow

Don't try to runaway from your own words Mr . Man.

Own what you said with your full chest.

LordReed:
Word refer does not refer to refer. Bwahahahahahaha!

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FreeIgboho:
Exactly! If you say, "among his brothers he's the only one with circumstance", circumstance does not mean circumstance.

The word "among" does not mean among.

Your case is far more serious than any one of us guessed.

Ttalk:
You have comprehension issue.


Igbo slaved for PDP for almost 24 years since 1999 up to 2023 when PDP dashed their hope.

And I am Igbo, and have been slaving for PDP?
Please Mr. Omniscient, how did you know these things?

helinues:
I thought you guys said president Tinubu never done a thing?

What's the change of mouth for?

Pls show me where I said that.

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Ttalk:
You guys are so ungrateful, you slave for PDP for 22 years but the party couldn't build 2 and Niger bridge you all crave for until Buhari came and compete it.

In Alaba market, it took an APC governor Fashola to revamp the access road to the market after years of neglect by the government.

Presently, Tinubu through Wike is building the access road to Deidei market after years of neglect by PDP government your laboured for.

A hateful soul will always be ungrateful

1. Where did you see 22 years? PDP was in power for 16 years.
2. How do you know I supported any PDP?
3. Are you suggesting I am Igbo?

These kinds of unfounded assumptions tell alot about you.

If you think any Nigerian should be grateful to BAT, may heaven help the kind of country you imagine for yourself/

helinues:
If president Tinubu hasn't done a thing, on whose record are we going to add just that 5 ministers to?

It will be very strange for even the worst possible President not to accomplish a single thing. Impossible even. Abacha, Idi Amin, they had accomplishments too.

PS: You did not list up to five - even adding Aviation was a stretch. Besides, this is an admission that the administration as a whole is performing very poorly.

helinues:
FCT minister, Aviation minister, Minister of road, Minister of interior all those people, I guess what they have been doing won't be added to the achievements of this government

In a cabinet of 49 ministers no one, including you, can list up to five performing ministers.

Moremii:
Hian! What kind of cheap lie is this abeg? The women and children that your god ordered to be killed in the Canaanite regions were bandits that attacked the Israelites? Women and children? Are you serious right now? And what does bandit even mean here? Do you realize you are referring to settled agricultural societies with established cities? Your Bible even acknowledged this fact too.

Please and please, take it easy on the lies. These were incidents that happened in the books of Deuteronomy and Joshua, so let's not play dumb. Your god is a tribal war god and the proof is right there in your Bible.

He said they attacked "like bandits" and not that they were in fact bandits, to be fair. Also that attack did happen. Nonetheless it does not justify the bloodthirsty command of Yahweh in my view, which extended to infants and cattle.

This is aside from the fact that there were other instances of such bloodthirsty commands -

Deuteronomy 20:16-17: "But in the cities of these peoples that the Lord your God is giving you for an inheritance, you shall save alive nothing that breathes, but you shall utterly destroy them, the Hittites and the Amorites, the Canaanites and the Perizzites, the Hivites and the Jebusites, as the Lord your God has commanded you."

Joshua 6:21: A passage describing the conquest of Jericho states, "Then they devoted all in the city to destruction, both men and women, young and old, oxen, sheep, and donkeys, with the edge of the sword."

What was the crime of these people?

FreeIgboho:
Exactly! Now you're thinking a little bit. The word "God" does not always refer to God. A word does not mean same in every circumstance!

The word circumstance does not mean circumstance.

FreeIgboho:
If I said only God has discernment, you'd be a total fool to not know that discernment is not "discernment" as used here. (I'm not saying you and LordReed are TOTAL FOOLS indeed!!!)

The word "God" does not refer to God.

Image123:
Were you thinking God was one of our employees like some clown pastors portray? What is man? If you were created, is it so far from reason that you belong to the Creator?
Exo_21:5  And if the servant shall plainly say, I love my master, my wife, and my children; I will not go out free:

If you actually and logically look at the options, in the short and very long run, you'd be smart enough to love the Master.
The Bible has many admirers and points of agreement with virtually every other religion, it's not a basis for confusion or conversion. Moreso, every single writer of the new testament was proud to be servants of God.

Rom_1:1  Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,
Titus_1:1  Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness;
Jas_1:1  James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.
2Pe_1:1  Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:
Jud_1:1  Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, to them that are sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ, and called:
Rev_1:1  The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

Doesnt all of this stand in contradiction to supposed freewill?

SIRTee15:
Humans created nobody therefore has no moral right to own another human or do as he please to another soul.
U cannot destroy what U didn't create.

Wait until we have human cloning made out of nothing, not even a human cell. Them we can have this discussion.

Slaves of Allah is not what separate Islam from Christianity.

Romans 6.22
But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the fruit you get leads to sanctification and its end, eternal life.

Doesnt all of this stand in contradiction to supposed freewill?

FreeIgboho:
Come and see what? You don't need spiritual discernment to know that anybody can be good, but only the Father can be "good" as meant by Jesus.

The word discernment does not mean discernment.

Kukutente23:
Why do you say the north is gone because of Shettima?

Oh they are already gone even without the Shettimma thing. But with his remarks today I think he is officially entering open warfare with BAT and that will only worsen the icy wind towards BAT from the North as a whole.

FreeIgboho:
My friend read with spiritual insight. Obviously that only the Father is "good" doesn’t mean that only the Father is good

LordReed! Comman see something oh.

FreeIgboho:
How the heck was I lying?? People do call people good all the time, but not the "good" used by Jesus as applicable to only the Father because he alone has that attribute

This takes the cake. I have never seen a line this amazing in my entire life.

LordReed:
LoLz! This is why they say interpreting the Bible is just a mirror. You can interpret it to any nonsense you like.

As in!
Someone can type that with a straight face!

No word is safe from being twisted and buried!

This is the nail in the coffin of whatever remained of the relationship between Tinubu and Shettima. For the discerning, this also signals a huge problem for Tinubu's re election. The North is gone.

Chief2410:
To survive this Nigeria,you just got stubborn.No dey send anybody,just do you. If I greet you,you no answer me I stop greeting you.No be the person dey pay bills for me. Life will be much better if we stop forcing people to conform or fit them in a mold.

Conformists are weaklings

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CoronaVirusPro:
God bless His Excellency, President Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu (GCFR)

The last political demigod

We all pray that you are blessed with an abundant portion of all that he has inflicted on poor and vulnerable Nigerians.

Kukutente23:
Manna? He has been discarded. He was part of the starboy crew. They were all chased out of BMC immediately the BAT crew took over even before the elections

Exactly what awaits helinues and co.

Double0h7:
7. Pull down my pants and fart 💨 in his mouth! Isn’t that how resuscitation works 😏

Could jumpstart him if that's his kink.

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Kukutente23:
You really can't blame them for the clapback
The belligerence of the BATist crew as it concerns Buhari and his govt was a stab in the back
First Tinubu coming out to ridicule a sitting President with his Abeokuta speech
Then every claimed "success" of this administration being trumpeted by the supporters is usually against the backdrop of painting the Buhari govt as a catastrophic failure... Same govt they supported for 8 years. It only goes to show that their love was fake. They shouldn't complain when the favour is being returned

True.

BTW Where is that fellow who spent his lifetime worshipping Buhari.

fredwill1357:
Perhaps, attributing characteristics to God is not exclusive to religion alone.
However, the belief or knowledge that the source of creation must be immutable is a knowledge, observation or calculation derived from our reality.
We cannot say for sure the laws and mechanisms that govern other realities, the
universal consciousness, space, etc and the inherent possibilities.

Too true.

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fredwill1357:
The universe can mean different things, are you talking about our world or universal existence or consciousness in general. If the latter, we cannot say for sure if it is finite, infinite, ever expanding or even incomprehensible, at least for us.

The universe being mutable or finite, mutable especially, does not nullify the possibility of it being the source of all.
Our world and existence is heavily flawed, it is not out of place that the possible creator is mutable. Only religious people sing and believe God is immutable.

It is wrong to say that only religious people believe God is immutable. It is also a strong philosophical concept.

You see, the thing is that a thing that changes must require a cause or trigger for such change. That automatically cancels it out as being itself the origin of all things. This is the fundamental logic behind saying that the source of all things cannot be a mutable thing.

A self existent thing must be the source of all things. A thing that by its very nature is necessarily existent. Such a thing is permanent and unchangeable and thus eternal.

This is strictly philosophical and has nothing whatsoever to do with religion. In fact the religious description of God in Christian scripture in particular discloses a God that changes all the time and this is thus a flawed precept.

occfx:
Classify the whites... I don't regard Indians and labanese as whites... Only Europeans and America look more like it. I didn't stay much in Europe but they are sensible

Where do you get this impression from?

Just say the societies are developed and advanced. That's a different thing entirely.

PS: No one has ever called Indians and Lebanese people white. They are not.

occfx:
Classify the whites... I don't regard Indians and labanese as whites... Only Europeans and America look more like it. I didn't stay much in Europe but they are sensible

Where do you get this impression from?

Just say the societies are developed and advanced. That's a different thing entirely.