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eteba:
It was the supreme court that vacated the LG chairmen, not the Sole Administrator.

Peacecore:
Some of u comment as if u just come out from bush which elected LG chairmen did he suspend?

Jakumo:
Haha, those technologically inferior aliens might still be struggling to invent their first bicycle, so to meet those species, Elon Musk will need to send his spaceships further afield. Considering how hated Elon Musk is in America and the EU right now, there is likely to be jubilation if it is announced that Elon might ride one of his rockets into space on an exploratory mission, possibly and hopefully of no return.

Jakumo:
Speculation is that alien technology from beyond our planet could be hundreds, if not thousands, of years more advanced than current human technology, so I wonder sometimes what would happen if aliens decided to test a human military's capability one day haha

Jakumo:
I doubt whether the need for war will ever go away. As long as there are men in power who are greedy and reckless like Russia's Putin, whose war will soon have consumed over one million soldiers, the need for armaments will remain.

KGREAT:
Foolish man.

PressMyButton:
They say he has been abandoned in Aso rock, meanwhile, he has been traveling from country to country representing Mr President. He just got back from Senegal from where he attended the country's anniversary, before then, he was in Dubai. Those losers trying to create division between him and his boss, where there's none. Their propaganda is falling flat on its face. And whether you like it or not, Shettima will be VP till 2031.


After God, na Tinubu 💪 God bless Nigeria

SalamRushdie:
This is beyond your brain grade so rest

SalamRushdie:
Trump will bankrupt China if they continue

wirinet:
We have been friends too long on this platform to start trading jibes at each other over differences of opinion.
Here is a concise Wikipedia article on evolution of sexual reproduction. I have not been able to read it myself, but it contains all questions and misunderstandings you might have -
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_sexual_reproduction

wirinet:
I am still at loss as to what you are talking about. Let me ask you one question; do amphibians like toad that just sit on the back of its female as its form of sex have complete reproductive system?

What of plants? Is the movement of male sex gamete to female ones by external factors such as insects or wind complete systems?

Reproductive systems are wide and varied - from simple ones to more complex systems.

It's a pity you have very little knowledge of evolution, and you are making the same false assumptions religious deniers make.
Evolution does not take millions of years, micro evolution takes place between every generation. Its just that the micro evolution are usually too inconsequential to present any difference. It's hundreds or even thousands of these micro evolutions, particularly those that is beneficial to the specie that results in significant changes. This can often lead to the emergence of whole new species.

Botragelad:
Haha. Wow, fantastic. A concentration camp with a growing Muslim population or a genocide where Muslims somehow still manage to breathe? 🤣🤣

Seriously, was the October 7 massacre really worth it?

wirinet:
Reproduction as defined by biology is a system of self replication.

Reproduction as defined by biology is fundamentally a system of self-replication, meaning organisms create copies of themselves, ensuring the continuation of species and passing on genetic information. So I don't understand what you mean by successful reproduction.

As I said reproductive systems evolved from simple cell division - mitosis to complex reproductive systems involving defined sex organs and sex. Some animals possess both sex organs while most higher organisms have just one. Some mutations allow people to possess both sex organs.

FiveFootNinja:
Fair enough. I appreciate the honesty.

Personally, I'm not too deep in the field of natural sciences so I can't claim full understanding of the ToE. I was bred in the social sciences, so I'll probably have a better shot at debating international policies and legal rights. 🤷🏽

The only gripe I have with people arguing the ToE in this religion section is that most of the time, the theory is often used as a crutch by Christians to attack atheists, and I've never understood that logic because personally I don't give a shít about the theory. It didn't lead me to become an atheist and frankly, it bores me to death.

But somehow Christians think shooting it down automatically validates their Bible stories - a very primitive type of thinking rooted in false dichotomy (an actual logical fallacy). 🤦🏽

I give the atheists a pass on bringing it up because at least they're rightfully juxtaposing it against the Bible's tale of creation, which sounds even more ridiculous and convoluted.



This is strictly within the realm of subjectivity, so I'm not going to argue this paragraph with you. As for me, I feel no need to accept the existence of a spiritual realm.

I will never drag an argument with someone over how he believes the universe came to be, provided he or she accepts that his belief is entirely his own belief. Where I start to heckle them is if they try to establish their beliefs as an objective truth, like the way some people do here.

Also, this is unrelated to our conversation but I just want to note how profoundly ignorant some people on this thread are that they casually take the word "power" from the axiom "knowledge is power", and equate it with physical capacity.

The same people write nonsensical faith fueled diatribes here to try and disparage the idea of having "knowledge", foolishly thinking that having knowledge doesn't have any practical real world benefits. I mean, the inherent stupidity in that statement should be self evident. Lol. 😂

You seem like a pretty flexible poster in terms of thought and logic, and I respect you for it. Unlike some here who are closed off from reality by their faith, and ironically think that it is a virtue worth extolling.



Well, like I said, I don't know jack shít about the ToE. I'm an atheist, not a biologist or "evolutionist" (whatever that means). Also I feel people often conflate "theory of evolution" with "evolution". Those two terms have different connotations.

Furthermore, I don't particularly care about the modus operandi of ToE proponents. However, a scientific theory doesn't necessarily have to be flawless for it to be plausible. Even the theory of gravity has its own problems when you go deep into quantum mechanics.



Again, I will not personally accept the idea of there being a "creator or instigator" of this world without convincing evidence. But I will respect it as your belief.

FiveFootNinja:
The theory of evolution has problems, I agree.

Do you have a stronger hypothesis or postulate that is backed up by the evidence?

wirinet:
My brother, I respect your intellectual and spiritual depth, but I must admit evolution is not one of your strong subjects. Me, I have been studying evolution since the age of 16, especially that of humans. That's close to 4 decades. I started studying evolution before the human genome was decoded. Even though I am not an authority on the subject, I fully understand the process.

So let me explain the evolution of sex and sexual reproduction as best as I can;

The Evolution of Sex

The process of evolution is gradual, not spontaneous or simultaneous. It occurs through minute, often imperceptible changes in genes passed down over many generations. While mutations—sometimes triggered by radiation or chemicals—can introduce rapid genetic changes, most such mutations are harmful. True evolutionary change, especially in complex systems like reproduction, takes time and builds slowly through natural selection and genetic variation.

1. The Origins: Asexual Reproduction

The earliest form of reproduction was asexual, beginning with simple cell division:
- Mitosis: A single cell grows and divides into two identical daughter cells. This method ensured efficient reproduction in unicellular organisms.
- Asexual reproduction still exists today and remains efficient for many simpler organisms, like bacteria and certain protists.

2. The Emergence of Sexual Reproduction

Over time, a more advanced method evolved—sexual reproduction, driven by the need for genetic diversity:
- Meiosis: A special type of cell division that reduces the chromosome number by half, producing specialized reproductive cells (gametes).
- Some bacteria and viruses engage in horizontal gene transfer, a primitive form of genetic exchange that increases variation—laying the foundation for sexual reproduction.

This exchange of genetic material greatly enhanced the adaptability and evolutionary potential of organisms.

3. Development of Sex Cells

As organisms evolved:
- Cells differentiated into specialized sex cells: sperm (male) and eggs (female).
- These gametes carried only half the genetic information, and required fusion (fertilization) to create a new, genetically unique organism.

4. Evolution of Reproductive Organs and Systems

To support the new reproductive strategy:
- Organisms evolved reproductive organs to house and deliver gametes.
- Initially, many organisms were hermaphroditic, possessing both male and female reproductive organs. However, self-fertilization was often avoided to maintain genetic diversity.
- As complexity increased, many species evolved to have separate sexes, each specializing in one type of gamete. This was more efficient and avoided redundancy.

5. Fertilization Methods

- In simpler organisms(e.g., many fish and amphibians), fertilization is often external —females lay eggs and males release sperm over them.
- More complex organisms(e.g., mammals, birds, reptiles) developed internal fertilization, often accompanied by elaborate mating behaviors and specialized reproductive systems to increase the chances of successful reproduction.

6. Evolutionary Records and Continuity

One remarkable aspect of evolution is that it leaves behind traces of its history:
- From RNA to DNA, from simple proteins to cells, and from unicellular to multicellular life, these evolutionary stages are still observable today.
- Asexual and basic sexual reproduction coexist in modern organisms, offering a living window into our evolutionary past.

Ebubu:
Sitting Senators have immunity.
Waste of effort.

wirinet:
Complex organism were more vulnerable to environmental changes than simple or single cell organism, and thus a way to speed up evolution was required, this was where sexual reproduction came to the rescue.

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wirinet:
My brother male and female organs did not just evolve spontaneously. The organs evolved much later. It was the sex cells that first evolved and specialised in reproduction.

According to evolutionary theory, single cell organism lasted for a very long time before aggregating into multicellular. So asexual reproduction was the only means of reproduction. Also well into the early multicellular phase asexual reproduction ruled. It was when cells began to differentiate and organism increased in complexity that organs began to evolve. Complex organism were more vulnerable to environmental changes than simple or single cell organism, and thus a way to speed up evolution was required, this was where sexual reproduction came to the rescue.

It's a more complex process, and I read it quote a while ago, but I just presented you the summary.

wirinet:
Whats wrong with sexual reproduction? Sexual reproduction evolved to speed up the evolution process. Mixing genes from two different increase tremendously the number of ways the genes can combine to form different individuals, and also speed up mutation. Asexual reproduction would take much longer time to respond to changes in the environment.

Omoawoke:
What if Yahweh is a fallen angel too?

You haven’t thought of that..
The same way Yahweh came upon the surface of the earth in the beginning

What if they all descended from their respective places and chose different locations on earth

Yahweh landed in Israel, ogun landed in Yorubaland…

And that’s why Yahweh is a jealous god, he doesn’t want to share Israel with anybody

And he specially called that land his chosen land and his chosen people

You think the creator of the universe will be fighting for land like Yahweh did?

Yahweh is a demon!

wirinet:
Yahweh is the most narcissistic God in the whole of mythology. Allah comes a distant second. Zeus, Jupiter, Orunmila, Odin, amadioha, and Co are learning in terms of wickedness, egocentricism and genocide when compared to Yahweh.

correctguy101:
Gods...

As usual, I exit this discussion...

wirinet:
My brother which aspects of the ToE do you find highly questionable? The main crux of the ToE is simple. It simply states that "All species of life have evolved over time from common ancestors through a process called natural selection".
Now, many other fields of study support this theory, including Genetics, paleontology, comparative anatomy, molecular biology, biogeography and geology. I would be glad to see just one research paper that counters this simple but elegant theory

wirinet:
False. Science say no such thing. That's religious dogma that is set in stone and cannot be changed. Science theories change all the time. It changes according to data available at the time the observation is made. So many scientific theories have changed over the centuries - from gravity to the nature of the atom. The only theory that have stood the test of time and all attacks is the theory of evolution. It has not been disproved since it was theorised by Charles Darwin over 150 years ago.

SmartyPants:
We should define the terms of reference clearly: the thread is about places where the average person can live well but you seem to be conflating this with cities that are nationally relevant. These are two parallel lines. In fact, it is arguable that the more relevant a city is in terms of national affairs, the less pleasant it will be to live there.

Now looking at the points you made, I don't see solid arguments:

1. Entertainment: What are the sophistication of entertainment options? What exactly is on offer? Don't forget that Ibadan is an hour to Lagos so if you feel the entertainment on offer is not sophisticated enough, you can sprint into Lagos for the luxuries that no other city in Nigeria quite has. Port Harcourt can't beat that. But again, you haven't mentioned what exactly is on offer that's so special.

2. Infrastructure: Ibadan has very good roads. It doesn't need bridges nor a Seaport, because Lagos. But again, how does a seaport make life better for the average person? Ibadan does have an Airport but this is not even really relevant because, again, Lagos.

3. Large parts of Ibadan are unsightly, but Ibadan is at least three times the size of Port Harcourt: the sightly part of Ibadan is almost as large as Port Harcourt itself. So the unsightly part of Ibadan can't stop anyone from living a great life here. Like I said, if you don't want to, you'll never have a reason to step foot in those places.

4. When you say international mix of people living there, how does that make it a better place for the average Nigeria to live there? In fact, clearly the effect will be to make the city pricier.

So if we stick to the research question, you haven't shown how Port Harcourt is better. Add to this the fact that Ibadan is much cheaper to live in and much safer both in terms of crime and environmental pollution, I don't see how you can make a case for Port Harcourt here. Finally, again, whatever you want that you can't find in Ibadan, you will find an hour away in Lagos.

Broveens42:
When we spill facts, it's very difficult to challenge.
But I can understand for some who haven't visited owerri before.
Facts are difficult to dismiss...

This is owerri in December, 2024