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Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 8:00pm On May 05
bayelsaowei:
Trump lies too much.. he’d lie through his teeth and his worshippers would still say he is the best thing that ever happened to the US..

Trump lies for a living.
The only time when Trump is not lying is when he is not talking or typing or writing.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 7:53pm On May 05
tctrills:
Let's not over flog this, I already told you my solution, you don't agree. Now tell me yours
Saying something as vague and broad as you did is meaningless.

Rather. Let us get to the truth.

Do you believe Caucasians to be a superior race to Black Africans. Out with it.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 7:14pm On May 05
tctrills:
You have the right to remain silent.

But the questions all of you pretentious black advocates need to answer are,
What more should America do specially for Black American?
How has America failed their blacks since 1965?
When would the blacks stop using the excuses of 1965 and the black wall streets fire as reasons why they are so messed up.

Remember, most blacks today were born after 1965.

If you guys have answers to these, their would be no further need to argue.

You claim we are against black America but we are the only ones offering solutions.

Remember I told you, change the culture, that's the only solution from this downhill dive
There are bad elements in all cultures and they are urged to change. That has nothing to do with the issues here.
I repeat that you dont know the meaning of the word "culture."
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 6:38pm On May 05
tctrills:
Oga the problem is not my reading skills but your dishonesty.

You completely gabe an entirely new meaning to what I said.

But it's not important, let's go back to topic.

List just one thing that the blacks have improved in their community.
Just one.

1965 is a long time
Another hideous and idiotic inference. No, i will not reward stupidity today.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 5:22pm On May 05
tctrills:
How much in reparations will stop black fathers from being irresponsible and will stop black mothers from being baby killers?
Stupidity. As though absenteeism or abortions are exclusive to blacks.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 5:21pm On May 05
tctrills:
See foolishness,
You will only answer me if I agree will your argument.
You should go to Bluesky where everyone agrees with you.
Again, I never said the black community never contributed a single positive thing. Please quote me correctly.
I know a black man invented peanut butter.
My point was that the black community has done nothing to improve itself since the 1960s.
And I asked you, in what ways have the black American community improved since segregation ended
Poor reading skills as always. I said "inference."
PoliticsRe: Crisis In NDC As Kano Chairman Rejects Moves To Hand Structure To Kwankwaso by DeepSight(m): 4:56pm On May 05
This has become a joke abeg.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 4:29pm On May 05
tctrills:
I have an even simpler question for you sir.
What more should the US do or give to black America before the men choose to be responsible fathers and stop abandoning their kids.
Now let's look for solutions instead of prolonging the discussion.

Deepsight, we need your insights here, live up to your name
I will only answer you if you retract your inference that in sixty years the black community has not conrtibuted a single positive thing to America.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m):
TV01:
If you can't make it simpler than this, then it's futile. My brain is clearly microscopic grin.

Your analogy fails for a number of reasons. Not least because it is not reducible to 2 individuals - as if all black people are relatively underprivileged and all white people are over-privileged. What ails the underprivileged white people - who have always been with us?

Secondly, there are myriad actions that have been taken to redress the historical wrongs which no one denies. A big flaw with your position is the inability to accept any merit in the opposing argument and the sad resort to slurs and tantrums - that clearly demonstrates weakness.

The pathways and drive to ensure equal opportunities for all are such, that endemic pathologies have to be considered. And it's a legitimate view that resolving those will drive more gains for FBA than anything else. You typically descend into a dark supremacist rhetoric when challenged or countered. Again weak.

Happy to forego your endless callouts if you cannot accept there are natal pathologies in the FBA and proffer real solutions, instead of your "billions and billions of years and trillions and trillions of dollars", i.e. never, never and it's all whiteys fault approach grin.

I'm mostly fond of everyone here regardless - even if I take no prisoners sometimes cool. But some of the content is just rabid. lacking in nuance or due consideration and is oft times just reverb. Please.


TV
Dunning Kruger Effect. And unscholarly as always.
And please, you of all people dare not use the word "nuance." It is totally unknown to you.

I must be honest, I am a debate addict. I hoped for much better from you, but it has been sorely and deeply disappointing.

PS: You use acronyms alot, dont go around assuming everyone knows every acronym. I know what you refer to, but not everyone may.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 1:00pm On May 05
basilico:
Where are we now with this.. African Americans are the richest and most wealthy blacks on the planet. They need reparations .
How about those in Africa?
There's alot that needs to be returned to Africa, not the least being a hoard of stolen art works. And antiques.

But I would focus on sorting out unfair trade practices. And undoing much of the structures of neo colonialism. Much here however is in our hands. I said much, not all.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 12:01pm On May 05
tctrills:
Since we began this argument, your only excuse for the black decline was reparations and black wall street.
Hope you know that china is yet to give Korea reparations after almost 2000 years rule.
What about the 35 years of oppressive rule from the Japanese. Anyway, they got 800 million dollars in reparations and I am sure that would be your excuse for the greatness of Korea. 800 million compared to trillions of dollars
Dunning Kruger Man, I will not address stupidity today. Only sensible questions or propositions.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 11:48am On May 05
tctrills:
I really love this video you sent.
In America today, blacks have been given everything to make them elevate themselves. Yet they refuse to do so. What else would you suggest that America gives them.
Just name that one thing that the blacks are deprived from today. And please let your answer not be black wall street
Dunning Kruger tctrills, I will not indulge stupid questions today.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 11:43am On May 05
tctrills:
Did you know that black Americans are the laziest group in the US with one in five choosing not to work or participate in labour. Yet they are the poorest.
They are waiting for reparations to solve all their problems as you claim.
Dunning-Kruger Tctrills, Good day.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 11:39am On May 05
basilico:
If I'm to be in your good books I should say black Americans are oppressed and need cash bailouts .
Over my dead body.
African American are the richest and wealthiest blacks anywhere in this world .

Why they need reparations? How about the ones in Africa,what you think they need? To touch the robes of Jesus?
Reparations are sound in moral principle and should be acknowledged but are simply impractical because of the difficulty determining who gets what. As Obasanjo said recently, the acknowledgement is more important than any money.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 11:36am On May 05
tctrills:
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What is wrong with this one.
You do this all the time, whenever you have no answers to the topic you begin to distract. But I have learnt not to fall for it.

Oga name just one thing the black American community has improved on since 1965.

Someone on your team called the Jews the most protected people on earth, a people that face constant war?

The Jews will happily exchange their protection for that of black America. The will exchange the deserts of Israel for the fertile soils of the US. The will love to be in a protected land like the US.

Black America has all this but your excuse for the fall is that they didn't get reparations
basilico:
If I'm to be in your good books I should say black Americans are oppressed and need cash bailouts .
Over my dead body.
African American are the richest and wealthiest blacks anywhere in this world .

Why they need reparations? How about the ones in Africa,what you think they need? To touch the robes of Jesus?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PJ4nFUWQlAo
FamilyRe: I Change Am For My Mama This Morning by DeepSight(m): 11:26am On May 05
JackDaAlienz:
Her: Collect so so from Sandra

Me: okay, anything else

Her: No

Silence as I wear shoe and step out

Immediately I open door and I'm outside

Her: And tell Sandra to bla blah

Me : ok I heard you

Enters car, start engine

Her: And also drop by the pharmacy to blah blah

Me : 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 wTF

You could have told me all this inside the house. Na until I step out you remember all these.

I warned her not to disturb me with that nonesense attitude. If you want to send person on errand be direct. Not giving person half half info
How old are you?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 10:54am On May 05
COCOCANDY - You said -

Pls I’m begging you people to think about what you say before you say it.
Sadly you beg in vain.

You know the last couple of weeks have really schooled me on this thread. Not that I didnt know previously how MAGA peeps can be, but the schooling has drilled it down. You know, there is a syndrome named for people who think they know much about subjects they know nothing of.

It is called the Dunning-Kruger effect.

Dunning-Kruger effect, in psychology, a cognitive bias whereby people with limited knowledge or competence in a given intellectual or social domain greatly overestimate their own knowledge or competence in that domain relative to objective criteria or to the performance of their peers or of people in general.

https://www.britannica.com/science/Dunning-Kruger-effect

The ignorance i saw from tctrills and basilico yesterday leaves me in no doubt that they are sufferers. It made me recall that tctrills was once exposed as not even knowing what a bi-sexual person is. And that's someone who will run his mouth on the subject of LGBTQ rights. Just one example
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 10:08pm On May 04
cococandy:
Do you also know black women are one of the most educated groups by race and gender amongst all Americans?

Many of you misogynistic mommy-hating dark-skinned boys pining for a light skinned or white woman to love you never see any positive in anything black women do.

And that’s how you raise self-hating little black girls who grow up with daddy issues and end up repeating and living in abusive cycles because the first men in their lives hated themselves so much they passed it onto them.


I hope you’re learning a lot from this thread and I hope you use that information to do better later in life.
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Sadly, the fellow has kids. I shudder to think what he will teach them.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 7:55pm On May 04
basilico:
If each descedant of slavery gets $10 million today , after 5 years the blacks will have caught up with the whites?
Or they will have danced azonto with the money?
My friend, no amount of money will make such a huge difference.
Its not a matter of money, its a matter of time. Every group of people walk a different journey.
Once upon a time Romans looked down on Brits and Germans as barbarians.

Where is Italy today?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 7:53pm On May 04
tctrills:
It was more than a favour, it was a sacrifice.
Should there have been slavery in the first place? No. But tell me any other country that sacrificed that much to end slavery?

In the 1860s slavery was the norm. Americans killed their fellow country men to change that norm. No country has ever sacrificed that much for blacks.

Mind you, my great grandfather had slaves. Many of our ancestors were either slaves or slave owners. The slaves among them would have wished and prayed that others wou go to war just to free them.
It only happened in the great USA.

You bring up a great point, whites fought their fellow whites to free black men. This is one of the greatest human stories ever.

What greater sacrifice can a nation make. Tell me any greater sacrifice in history that any nation has made for the blacks.

1 The Jews got reparations in a few billions
2 Blacks get welfare in the trillion.
3 Who do we congratulate, the one who got trillions and squandered it or the one who got a few billions and became the start up nation.

Lastly black wall street is a testament of the black rot.
Between 1965 and now, black America could have rebuilt their wall street. They could have made it many time greater. They have more opportunities than the 1920s but what do they choose, to cry and seek pity.
1. It is madness to count welfare to given to the poor of all races as what blacks should have specially developed from

2. You have no issue with the Jews getting reparations but you hate the idea of blacks getting reparations.

3. You then say the Jews have done well and blacks are making excuses.

The Jews have a completely different story and scenario. As Ijebos told you they are the most protected people in the world since the second world war. The second world war ended twenty years before the Civil Rights Movement that ended segregation.

Europeans have not gotten to where they are overnight. It is madness to look at a community that was still suffering segregation and could barely vote as recently as 60 years ago and then shout "excuses." Its abominably silly.

Gosh. The ignorance, shallowness and stupidity is too great.

I am sure today is the first time you are hearing of black wall street. And you have no idea what the implications of a century of marginalization can do and has done.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 7:47pm On May 04
basilico:
If you haven't noticed we want the black community to excel.We want the excuses to stop.There should be a reflection on where blacks are and an honest discussion on how to move from there.
What chains internally have bound that need to be removed.

We don't want to dwell on the past .
Forward always backwards never is a popular school motto.

Start with the gang culture . Stable families. Petty jealousy.
Europeans have not gotten to where they are overnight. It is madness to look at a community that was still suffering segregation and could barely vote as recently as 60 years ago and then shout "excuses." Its abominably silly.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 7:45pm On May 04
basilico:
It all boils down to reparations. After $6 Trillion , you still want more? \
Stop being silly, it is madness to count welfare that went to all races over sixty years as something special that blacks ought to have developed from.
Who should pay for it?
If the state in the UK could pay the descendants of slave owners up till 2015 for the loss of slaves, why cant the state everywhere be responsible for the descendants of slaves in terms of reparations?

Look, the principle is what is key. In truth, I know its not practical but for a different reason. And that reason is the difficulty with determining who gets what.

A person like you who didnt know of black wall street does not qualify to discuss this matter please. I can only begin to imagine the many other aspects of the history you are totally ignorant of.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 7:38pm On May 04
tctrills:
You dwell in irrelevance. That was in the 1920s. 100 years ago and some how, you feel it's the reason why black America is a mess.

Here are some figures that should make any sensible person think.

Despite segregation, the burning of black wall street, the KKK and all forms of oppression, black American reduced poverty by 45% from 1940 to 1965.
Just 25 years.
87% to 41.8%

In the years following, with all the opportunities that freedom brought their way. With a welfare program that have them billions each year what have they done?

Poverty has reduced by 24% from 1965 to date.
Why was black America able to do more with less? What changed?
Within that same period, black on black violent blew up, fatherlessness became an epidemic.

They were given more and they did less that's the amazing story of black America
Look at your last line. What were they given? You are talking about welfare that went to poor people generally.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 7:37pm On May 04
basilico:
Korea was a third world in the sixties.China too
This is nonsensical.

Black America is part of America. And they are first world.

Again, you should compare apples for apples. The histories are completely different.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 7:35pm On May 04
tctrills:
Blacks received close to a hundred billion in welfare each year how is that not more than what Jews received?

The best the Jews get is 3.5 billion yearly in a defence pack with the US. 70% of which is spent in the US on America companies.

And yes, Germany gave them a few billions in a one time payment.

What have the blacks received?

The entire nation went to war just to free them. The received the blood and sacrifice of America. America fought to make them free.

And today what better reparations is better than the opportunity to live freely in the land of greatest opportunity.

Again, I fully support giving welfare to the poor black and white, I only ask, what have the blacks done with their opportunity?
Welfare given to every poor person is not the same thing as reparations. That welfare is given to all races. That's one.

What do you mean the entire nation went to war "just to free them?" You make it sound like a favour?

Should they have been enslaved at all? And should anyone have fought to retain that system of slavery?

When you remember those whites who fought to free them, who were those whites fighting against? Other whites who wanted to keep slavery right? Do you forget that?

Here is the simple fact.

1. Jews got reparations
2. You don't want blacks to get same
3. Yet you congratulate Jews for doing better than blacks.

Why is that?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 7:30pm On May 04
basilico:
Well I honestly don't.
Okay. I've seen it was in 1921.
This tells alot about both of you. You don't get to discuss this subject at all without knowing something like that. It's like someone discussing apartheid and not knowing of Nelson Mandela.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 7:28pm On May 04
tctrills:
According to DeepSight a fire from hundred ago is the reason for everything going wrong in black America
You just have no sense of history and ripple effects. If that is what your good culture people could do from hate, do you think that suddenly stopped. Does it not occur to you that same people would go to extreme lengths to keep black people in shackles?

Is it not a shame that segregation lasted till the sixties? I mean the sixties for heavens sake.

So we are talking about a mere fifty to sixty years ago. And you expect that in that time the people so marginalized by society ought to have perfected everything? How will it not take time for heavens sake Tctrills and basilico. How many centuries did it take whites to our their act together and with all these odds against a marginalized black community you insult them for not being perfect yet right?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 6:27pm On May 04
cococandy:
And their suffering had been acknowledged and compensated.

Can you say the same for African Americans?

Uncles ruckus like you fight against reparations.
Yet Jews are allowed to mount their losses and recoup through government money.

Take a seat please
Jews have received reparations in many ways. But tctrills actually campaigns against money going to blacks. Then he says, look at Jews they are doing so well.

No one could make this up. Its beyond preposterous.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 6:25pm On May 04
tctrills:
black wall street was burnt down by white guys and that is you excuse why blacks shouldn't have sense till today?

Every Jewish property was destroyed or stolen in Iraq in the 50s but the Jews have moved on.

Just so you know, less than 5% of black wealth was destroyed in black wall street.

100% of Iraqi Jews wealth was lost in the 50s
Nothing can save you.
I dont think you even have a word of condemnation for those who burnt it down do you?
Oh wait - you have praise for their culture in that regard, not so?

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