₦airaland Forum

Salewa97:
Another day, another protest with misplaced loyalty. Waving a foreign flag in Nigeria? What are they trying to prove?

Instead of addressing local issues, they choose to align with outsiders. The irony is rich. When will these protesters learn that real change comes from within?

I am here to inform you that you have been asked to leave this forum. Your presence is odious, obnoxious and disgusting and your family smells.

We don't like you here, we don't want you here. Please be going.

Run, Salewa, run. And never come back.

SeniorGee:
So GOC get branded bag For what purpose exactly And the soldiers were complaining of lack of resources.
For Nigeria Army to pay compensation, that means the north absolutely controls Nigeria!

Not just that, the swiftness. Fear.

Christistruth02:
It just had to be Sowore's Sahara reporters

Anything to incite people since his insurrection failed.


The Army never called it compensation

He has been a very key figure of this uprising.

Kukutente23:
Unfortunately, the sun is beginning to lose its touch with good journalism. I took my time to read the Op and I didn't see any strategy. The exact quote from the minister is just what everyone who took economics classes in senior secondary school should know so I wonder where the strategy is outlined in the story. This is shameful.

The portion that scared me was where he said something like "with this new approach supported by the commitment of the president. . ."

My stomach churned because it just sounded like something one would read Comrade Squealer telling the Animals about the commitment of Comrade Napoleon in Animal Farm.

Kukutente23:
This is what I've been saying
There's no food shortage in Nigeria. At least, the high cost of food items is not caused by food shortage. What we are battling with is cost of doing business. Any business be it agric or tech and it is caused by spiralling fuel price.
Any other thing is just a waste of time. Even the imported food will still be transported. The dollars to import it will still be sourced at 1600 to a dollar!

Period.

Alliswell248:
No President has ever attempted what BAT did because of the fear of 2nd term.

Removed subsidy
Local government autonomy
Harmonized the fx exchange rate...

BAT remains the goal....
The husband of the cabals....


You have my vote...

So you still don't know that subsidy removal and currency devaluation are standard IMF positions that always impoverish African nations?

trutharena:
This is a welcome development, finally some serious planning from the FG. It's about time they put the citizens' welfare at the forefront instead of the usual empty promises. Let's see how this strategy translates into real benefits for everyday Nigerians.

ChinkoAlhaji34, you again?

Chinkoalhaji34:
Finally, some action from the FG!

It's about time we see a robust plan that prioritizes the well-being of the citizens.

You need to leave this forum. Everyone here can see you are a cheap hireling of govt.

Richtaiwo:
On the above, Atiku is absolutely right and I agree with him 100%.

However, there is a wide difference between protest and robbery. What we currently have in the name of protest is actually robbery and security agencies can't fold arms watching miscreants breaking into people's shops and carting away properties while disguising as protesters. It was reported that these so called protesters broke into a bank yesterday in kaduna. Please what has protest against govt got to do with breaking into commercial banks?

Criminals in action should be shot. You don't take a businessman down to penury because you are not happy with the govt. Who told you the businessman is happy with the same govt?

If you are such a spic and span person pray that actual revolution does not break out because in that case robbery will be nothing.

Timmi:
It is cretins like you that knows nothing, comprehend nothing and yet claims to know all. Can you just imagine if there is no subsidy, fuel would have been 1,200 - 1,500 a liter but because most of you protesting are zombies, you wouldn’t know nor even want to know.

Only with naira flotation in addittion.

Sicklebear28:
Helinues, Yerimo can you see how shameless your police boss is lying. Videos of protesters killed are on the internet. Just like what happened in Lagos during EndSARS.

Stop this nonsense, have you not heard that it is Bitter Grieving Peter Obi and his wreckless obidients who gave the IGP this lie from the pit og hell?

atiku4President:
See how Peter Obi is deceiving the IG of police to tell lies to Nigerians.

Quote of the year!

[quote author= post=131371140]
Rumors are carried by haters,

spread by fools,

and accepted by idiots.[/quote]Just like the initial rumours that there were no soldiers ever at Lekki Toll right?

Engrjamjam:
Obi is a looter!

A liar!

A thief!

Deceiving gullible Obidients to loot and destroy in the name of Protest!

Obi you can not deceive reasonable Nigerians!

You have failed!

But come, let us reason together as rational people. Most of the protests we have seen are in the North. Are you saying Obi is that influential over the Hausa and he controls them?

If this picture is true please lets do everything to get it to the international media or the government will not stop.

Because na white man command these policies and na only white man Dem go hear.

Caskdoe:
Initially you are crying for bad governance with ulterior motive to change the government. THUNDER GO FIRE ANYONE THAT WILL TURN NIGERIA TO LIBYA FOR THEIR SELFISH. OVEM You lost an election and up toll.now you are stoll crying

So I guess Peter Obi or Atiku shot that little kid. If you can see that picture and not pause for a moment, your spirit is dead.

Ironbull:
His family should go and bury him, I give no f u c k and will never say RIP.

We warned dem but dem say our mouth dey smell so we do not care for any idiot that fell by bullet.

I'm extremely angry with these goats in the North raising Russia flag.

Security force should shot any idiot that do anyhow.

Your political preferences have stolen your humanity. This is an obnoxious statement. Good luck.

etrange:
So you're calling on Russia to do what for you exactly? Make Tinubu return the subsidy? Or because you guys see those in francophone countries waving the Russian flag, you think it's something you just do whenever you're not happy with your government? What you fail to realize is that your situation is very different from thiers. They are managed by France. What do you think Russia will do for your country where your funds are managed by your own people? Have you read the response from the Russian government? At a point where we're trying to take back out country, you're calling on another colonial master.

Nah, you misread me.

casualobserver:
exactly! you like all the other ignorant Nigerians make claims you cannot substantiate. figures are things that are not subjective. that is why they say figures do not lie. I asked for figures, you cannot provide figures instead you start to speak in tongues.


EEEEdiot!

Good night oh.

Horus:
You don't have the right to kill an unarmed child
The killer should be arrested immediately

You will hear something like it never happened or thats an old picture from Rwanda.

casualobserver:
I am not the one changing topics here, you asked me about IMF, I agreed. I asked you to give me the figures. Actual figures that back your assertion that there is mnoney to pay subsidies without floating the naira and all you have been doing is to show your parents should have used a condom and when they did give birth to you they should not have wasted their money or the governments resources saying they are sending you to school.
ignoramus talking about supplementary budget in an effort to sound enlightened to his ignorant audioence not realising he is arguing against himself. The only reason govt had money for a supplementary budget is 1) because they removed subsidies and he floated the Naira both actions resulting in more naira for the govt....the exact things you say they should not have done!!!
good night!!

Yes oh, good night.

casualobserver:
you continue to display how simpleminded and ignorant you are. That subsidy was in the budget does not mean there was money to fund the budget. The subsidy for the previous months was borrowed that was why our debt to revenue ratio was 97% as at may 29. i read somewhere NNPC was actually owing foreign suppliers of fuel $6m for fuel they had supplied but we had not paid for. Secondly a budget is simply a projection, it does not mean you have the money.

Evidently we had sufficient for one month's worth as proven by the presidents excesses alone.
Good night. Really.

casualobserver:
you are a foooool do you not know that it is because the Naira was floated that there is additional Naira for a supplementary budget? how ignorant are you people? The reason why our debt to revenue has gone down from 97% on May 29 to 64% today is precisely because we floated the naira and because we got more naira for every dollar we had more money to retire our debts.


I said answer in figures where the money is coming from without floating the naira you are funbling give me figures. you cant because it doesnt add up.

is it that hard for you to say subsidy wils cost as an example $4b and we will get $4b from here? you cant because you are ignorant and you dont understand what you are talking about.

if your salary is 20m a year and you have outstanding loan payments of N18m a year yetyou say you want to buy a car of N100m or even N50m wont you be able to say this is where the money for the car will come from? or you just wish a car and it appears? eeeeediot!!

If you cant tell me that the extra money raised for a supplementary budget is also for debt servicing - which we know it is not (rather you wish to change the subject) then you have no point I have to say good night. Because you dont even know what a supplementary budget is and how it ties into your own argument. If you did, the first thing you would look at is what it is paying for. And once its not debt servicing, you have defeated yourself.

Look writing insults in prolonged letters is your busines. I dont have that much for kids. Good nught.

casualobserver:
see yourself?

You claim to be an educated person? what differentiates you from the children in Kano carrying Russian flags?

THis matter is simple....answer like an educated person. this is not a question that is one of opinion, this is a question of arithmetic

Tell me in figures what is government's revenue after debt service?
what is the subsidy component of petrol
where does that money come from?

i dont need your opinion, i need figures...figures do not lie

if you cannot answer then get the F out of my mentions


eeeeediot! educated ignoramus, educated m0r0n

You are just screaming childish insults for nothing. If it missed you i said in the last few weeks a new budget, maybe you dont know what a supplementary budget is, was created of N6 Trillion. And it has been miraculously financed. Now that is an exact figure plus an exact source and you are yapping.

I dont have your time. You are probably a teenager.

And PS: That new budget was not for any debt servicing, olodo.

Eriokanmi:
In as much as I was never in support of subsidy payment, I faulted the policy on one important ground... whenever a surgeon wants to operate on a patient, he invites an anaesthetist who applies an anaesthetic agent to relieve the patient of the pain. The drug would have been available before the operations starts, not during or after the operation else, the patient will feel discomforts and may eventually be traumatised and die in the process due to an unbearable pain.

In Angola, subsidy was removed but gradually, are you awsre? They also have crude like Nigeria. Before this was done, just like what Jonathan did in his term, enough palliatives had been put in place. That's why Angola isn't crying today as Nigeria over hardship. Energy is every nation's livewire. It affects every sector and the masses always bear the consequences cos politicians don't care. They spend public funds.

When Jonathan was going to remove subsidy, he had already provided palliatives. I remember the Sure-P programme and twhat it had achieved. I remember those buses he reeled out and other incentives, including drugs and equipment in hospitals to alleviate the sufferings the removal could bring.

Tinubu came on board and said, subsidy is gone! But without any palliatives in place. That's why Nigerians are crying today. It's like sending your child to school and say have a nice day my son, without giving him breakfast and lunch pack, and you expect him to concentrate in his studies?. Tinubu placed the cart before the horse and that alone was disappointing as someone who claimed to be prepared for the job. Here in lagos, you can unleash some propaganda and get away with it, not at the national or federal level. You'd be caught in no time cos everyone can't be on your side always. We are a vast nation with nearly 400 ethnicities.

Removing subsidy without the palliatives in place was like unleashing suffering on the masses deliberately. It's not done anywhere. Since he knew buhari didn't make any provision for subsidy payment in the 2024 budget, why not prepare a supplementary budget on palliatives and seek express approval so the masses wouldn't feel the effect of subsidy removal? It's been over one year in office yet, no palliatives in place. Instead all we hear is purchase of presidential yacht and new jets whrn he can repair all the fkeets we had for less. The masses will get sense someday.

Nigerians are really patient.

Well said!

Let me add that I am sure casualobserver doesnt even know that provision was made in the 2023 budget for subsidy up till the end of June but he yanked it in one hour. No one has asked what happened to that!

And when we say "there was no money for subsidy" does he want us us to start listing the lavish excesses Tinubu immediatley went on? Is it N160 Million SUV per NASS member we should start from, or circa N200 Million palliative per NASS member? Is it the 1.5 Billion for his wife's cars (completely illegal) or the 20 Billion new VP residence or the proposed new presidential jets? To mention but a few?

casualobserver:
you have not answered the question and i dont expect you to because clearly you are ignorant or you have no understanding of the subject matter.

97% pf youir income is earmarked for debt servicing, meaning you have only 3% left which at best is $1b. how do you fund the government pay salaries, build roads, fund schools and hospitals etc and pay for a subsidy regime that will cost you at least $6b a year? let us even say $3b of the $6B is subsidy corruption, how do you tale $1b pay salaries, build schools, build roads, pay police, fund the army and then pay subsidy of $3b with this same $1b?

you have not answered o

oga this thing is above your pay grade!!

Joker. If only three per cent of your income is available how do you have a 27 Trillion budget - and just a weeks ago, asked for a supplementary budget of N6+ trillion! What for? Now where do you get that supplementary money from? Guess what? They suddenly got creative - they made a provision to specially tax forex receipts of banks overnight!

Now that is JUST one thing they suddenly did in the last few weeks AFTER over a year of crying that there is no money for subsidy.

JUST ONE THING - JUST ONE METHOD.

You are the ignorant one if you dont know the massive means and options available to a sovereign government with polotical will.

You asked for one option, I have given you, but I could list ten.

You dont know jack, you dont have the capacity to think for yourself, you just eat up whatver govt says.

I am sure you dont even know that provision was made in the 2023 budget for subsidy up till the end of June but he yanked it in one hour. No one has asked what happened to that!

casualobserver:
None! now I hope you can also answer me. how do you expect to get the money to pay for subsidies considering 97% of our income is earmarked to debt payments?

I have answered you, now I hope you can answer me.

Simple! Everyone knows the bloated subsidy became a problem because of the stupendous corruption around it. Something that spiked from under 300 billion with GEJ to 7 trillion with PMB is a joke taken too far. Attack the corruption and NOT the poor.

Why is it till today he has not said pim about investigating subsiddy theives but he has a hard on to make the poor suffer for it right?

Secondly, you also do it in phases because that 200 per cent increase in the price of PMS in one day was a global record and NO ONE does that unless you are planning to mass murder your population through hunger. NO ONE.

On top of that, you immediately rush to devalue the naira and cause hyper-inflation. Whats that BS?

casualobserver:
I am simply telling you the reality. You cannot spend what you do not have. If you are borrowing g to survive and collecting g urgent 20k from friends and family, eventually you will get to a point where friends and family don’t answer you and you have to adjust your life style or taking a demeaning job or do the unthinkable to survive.


That’s the reality of Nigeria. Wes re now faced with adjusting our lifestyle. Like it or not IMF or no IMF. There is no money to fund schools roads etc as well as fund forex Electricity and fuel subsidies. How we got here is immaterial, this is where we are!

Do you people understand what it means when they say we were spending 97% of all government revenue to pay our loans? Imagine if you had borrowed so much or lived a false life to the point that when you get your salary, 97% of it is used to pay your loans!! It means despite having a job you probably can’t even afford to eat!! Tinubu’s in 1 year has reduced that to 64%. That is why government workers can even receive salaries talk less increase in wages, that is why we can still embark on projects.

I really do t think you people u derstand that government finances had come to a stand still as at May 29. Nobody was answering our requests for urgent 20k anymore!!!

Maybe you dont know IMF has been bringing these same policies since the 80s.

I said name one country where it has brought prosperity.

Stop speaking grammar.

Name JUST one.

Philipponzaghi:
Obasanjo needs to understand that progress comes with challenges. Tinubu's decision to remove the subsidy was a bold step towards long-term economic growth. We can't keep holding onto short-term fixes that stifle our potential. Change is hard, but necessary for a brighter Nigeria. Let’s support our president as he navigates these tough waters.

Please assist us by naming just one third world country where subsidy removal and currency devaluation - IMF policies - have led to prosperity.

1, I said, not 2, 3, 4, or 5. Just 1.

Thank you.

casualobserver:
the point here is that whatever happens, going forward, Tinubu has done the right thing and it cannot be reversed.

Already there is subsidy whether they call it subsidy or not, to reduce fuel prices, you have to return to subsidized Naira, to return to subsidized Naira there will be no money for the government (dont forget when Tinubu came to power 97% of our income was deployed to repaying loans hence why Buhari printed money like a drunken sailor)



.....so we will just have to bear the pain.

Mark this post and save it. whoever suceeds Tinubu whether in 2027 0r 2031 will not return to the subsidy regime of either fuel or dollar...because they cannot afford to. he will be criticized but sensible people know Tinubu has done the hard work for them.

Please assist us by naming just one third world country where subsidy removal and currency devaluation - IMF policies - have led to prosperity.

1, I said, not 2, 3, 4, or 5. Just 1.

Thank you.

Chinkoalhaji34:
Why are we always quick to point fingers?

Obasanjo should remember that the issues with fuel subsidy didn't start today. Tinubu is trying to navigate through a maze of challenges left behind by previous administrations.

Instead of casting blame, let’s support the efforts to find a sustainable solution. We need to look at the bigger picture and give room for progress, no matter how slow it may seem.

What’s important is that we keep pushing for better policies and hold the government accountable, not just criticize from the sidelines.

Please assist us by naming just one third world country where subsidy removal and currency devaluation - IMF policies - have led to prosperity.

1, I said, not 2, 3, 4, or 5. Just 1.

Thank you.

Philipponzaghi:
Finally, some action! It's about time we hold those sponsors accountable. The FG is taking necessary steps to protect our sovereignty. Let's keep the pressure on and ensure our country remains safe from foreign meddling. Kudos to the security agencies for stepping up their game!

STFU.