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kingsvictor2:
if u can't obey God in not lying, not having sex, keeping slaves, raping women, u can't fully obey God.

it goes hand in hand

Sammyblack87:
Do you obey God in everything you do? Why is the tithe of thing so much important?

you guy are not getting it. I said if you can't obey God with you tithe, how can you obey God by not lying and fornicating. many people are only using tithe to hid there flaws

sonmvayina:
Lol.. You are just a mumu

you are just dumb. if you want to criticize, criticize like someone with sense

sonmvayina:
The tithe was a form of tax, the jews operated a theocracy where God was their king, so the levites and priest where supposed to collect it..

Every God's portion goes to them..

Nigeria is a democracy.. We are expected to pay tax to the government.. Not to pastor.

So you are using Nigeria to equate the kingdom of God.

hakeem4:
now I’m saying, since you give god 10% of your income; it means you are capable of obeying all gods law” right?

But I do not see you obey all gods law. All I see you do is cherrypick which one suits your agenda or not.

No body can obey God's law by himself. many of those people criticizing bishop oyedepo for what are only doing it to cover there own shame of not being able to pay there tithe. I repeat, if you can't obey God in tithing, that means you can't fully obey God

Nooil:
Just like adulterers think everyone is like them, people who probably paid tithe due to expectations and got disappointed(and became bitter) think everyone is like them.

Uncle, not everyone is like you. Some of us are noble at heart. And yes, God will bless us tithers abundantly. Because no word goes out of His mouth and returns void.

Tithe has never been tied to salvation. I wonder where you guys get your satanic thoughts. You must be a member of the church of satan to have such thoughts. You had better repent.

I could give you 2000 likes for this

hakeem4:
If you also can’t completely obey the Old Testament then it means mr. Jesus should not help you.

I don’t see you doing the following
1) owning slaves
2) raping women
committing genocides
Etc and many other barbaric acts commanded of us by the Old Testament.

Why do you cherry pick what to do in the Old Testament. How does paying tithe makes someone financially secured

As soon as you get more exposed to life ...experinces you will realize that wealth has nothing to do with spirituality....

I am not saying that you are secured financially if you pay your tithe. I am looking at it from the obedience point of view. if you find it difficult to obey God by giving God ten percent of your income, then you will find it difficult to fully obey God.

truespeak:
Yes! Shake your head in Shame and Pain, Having breached the Law of God Contrary to Proverbs 6:16-19 which states thus:

These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:

17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,

18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,

19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

That guy is all of them. He doesn't quote for he knows that I know all in secret. How is one paying his tithe to the church make him a liar.

And you want me to believe what you've just said with that your moniker

There is no boring part in the Bible. I have learnt good lesson from number of the Bible.

If you can't obey God with your tithe, that means you will find it difficult to fully obey God. those people that are shouting I will give my tithe to the poor and how faithful are they with it. they are not faithful with it. give God ten percent that is not too much to ask now

God is three in one. I don't know what is so worked up about the Trinity. God is one with the Father, the son and the Holy Spirit.

Lorenzop:
Here is the part they never preach to you

Have you been to winners before.

Nooil:
Did you read the verse or you just want to argue? And what do you understand by counsel?

That is how he behaves. saying things out of context

THUNDER4real:
First of all, you have to know this is under Judaism. The word Christian has not emerged. Paying of tithe here is under mosaic law, to the levites( who has no inheritance), they are not suppose to work, they are set aside for God. They pay these tithes based on what Moses said, also remember they will still have a feast in which the levites eat from the tithe and give to the needy among them.( Deu 26 : 12)

Therefore Jesus is saying here that paying of tithe is good base on the Mosaic law(which benefits to both needy/ levites). However, since the death and resurrection of Jesus, These laws don't really apply to Christiandom, that's why we have pastors instead of levites. Jesus even know, that's the reason he made a parable/ narration on how people don't give to the needy, didn't visit them in prison etc and even cursed people that didn't show care.

I have not seen in the bible where Jesus cursed people that didn't pay tithe. we have more better things to worry about, like how to enter God's kingdom, not tithe. Tithe will never never give you access to God's kingdom.

You can also study Abraham tithing, it was done once to Melchizedek, it wasn't an every month or day thing. Also study how the apostles and early church started. They gave willingly to the gospel not by percentage calculation. The apostles never cursed or threatened those that didn't give, God loves a cheerful giver and that's where the blessing lies.

What is the meaning of the word Christian if I may ask. it means people like Christ and Christ said something in Matt 23:23 and you said the word Christian hasn't emerges. Christianity started when Christ came to this world

Kobojunkie:
But you already made up your mind about my person. Let's leave it at that for now.

Can you just explain to us. You keep claiming that you are a Christian

Kobojunkie:
Who told me what?

read the thread again

Kobojunkie:
I don't pay tithe.... since I became Born again in 2017, i have never had to pay tithe. And God takes care of me the way defined in Matthew 6 when you seek first the Kingdom of God.

The Spirit of God is strict on the demarcation between Old wine and New wine.

As Area4Area noted, each Covenant - Old and New - are all or nothing. You can't pick and choose what you want to obey and you can't have one foot in one and another foot in the other

How did you became born again if I may ask

Kobojunkie:
Gentiles do not qualify to tithe under the old Covenant, period!

Moses's own son did not make the list of those who were required to pay or recieve tithe and He was born to a Levite father

Did you hear what that told you. I want you to be ready in two days so you can discuss with him.

ComeToJesus:
I don't have the luxury of time to masticate and exegit the scripture so that it can be digested at your level. In two days, I'll be able to spare you ample time to liberate your mind from private interpretations of the scripture that has ruthlessly held you hostage. Till then..

Am interested

ComeToJesus:
I'm helping you to locate the choices available to you. It's good you have chosen red wine. Enjoy your wine in peace and let us that pay our tithes and happily be the mugu in peace. It's not too much to ask for...

God will continue to bless you

Kobojunkie:
Actually, according to Old Covenant for the first 2 years, you can use your tithe to buy alcohol... so year, the bars should get a piece of the action that belongs to them if you are truly paying tithe and reaping God's blessing.

Read the Bible and open your eyes. By your claim you are calling God a liar.

Is it in the Bible I read. don't just say nonsense

nnamdi640:
Does baba pay his own tithe,if yes,then to who and who spend the money.

Just to let you know, he pays tithe to rccg. Even the church pays tithe too

Ay92:
PLEASE THIS THREAD IS NOT FOR ATHEISTS OR HALF BAKED CHRISTIANS
Hello everyone!
This issue has been bothering me for a very long time now. I knew I would be a man of God ever since I was a small boy. But I still went ahead to pursue my education. I completed my NYSC in 2017 and since then I've got no good job. So I went ahead to learn barbing which till this day I don't understand despite having clippers. I had to forcefully register at a theological seminary not long ago after receiving a very strong warning in my dreams that I will suffer a lot if I don't return to the ministry that God has called me to.
But what worries me now is that I don't know if things are difficult because I didn't heed the call of God, and then all the men of God around me are full time pastors and things are sometimes difficult for them. I don't like begging people for money and I always tell God that I don't want to depend on anyone for money and I'm not going into the ministry for the sake of riches. So "experienced people" ,CAN I HAVE A SIDE JOB LIKE A BARBER SHOP ALONG SIDE THE MINISTRY?

MODS, I DON'T MIND IF IT'S ON THE FRONT PAGE

If you don't want to depend on people believe in God. God is enough. If God is leading you, you don't need any side job

WINNERSMOG:
“Persecution only promotes, it does not destroy.”

“One of the most persecuted Church Ministries in this world is this one but we have never suffered a setback, no matter the campaign, the calumny, the anger, the bitterness. No.”

“They persecuted the Master beyond measure, now He is still reigning and He is reigning from everlasting to everlasting; He is coming down here to reign for 1000 years. He is now seated on the right side of Majesty on High, demons tremble at His instance.”

Yeah, the bishop at his best

dekung:
But she may be ignorant.
what is being laid all around Lagos and other places are fibre optic cables to boost internet connectivity across the city and these activities have been going on since mobile telecommunication entered Nigeria. They didn't start today, last week, last month or last year. We are all aware about it because one ignorant man decided to leave his area of con artistry and touched on technology which he knows nothing about to spin a false theory. If 'they' were trying to get you, they would have since

And you are sure about this. You know more than someone working with the town planning of Lagos State

Goldp5988:
You mean I bash GOD in your presence?

I mean the way to talk about God in other thread, I seem not to believe that you could tell someone to pray to that God

ArisingStorm:
You make me laff, since this is how you want to make this discussion go, no problem, There will be a seal on the righteous and there will be a mark of the beast, why? And that's of no purpose if the righteous will be raptured away? Answer my questions..... Because I am sincerely not here to show off quoting of Bible scriptures, I am here to make you see the hidden truth, because I was once expecting my messiah before tribulation, sadly, the false messiah will soon appear and many Christians will be perfectly deceived. So, tell me about the Seal of The Most High

You know why am going this route, is because am kind of busy right now. But if you exercise patient we would discuss

DelilahMakinde:
What is your area ?

before badagry

ArisingStorm:
Show me that in the scriptures, and I will show you the misinterpretation and deceit of Christianity.

You show me in the scripture that tribulation must happen before rapture and I will show you that you are misinterpreting