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I was coming to start a similar thread. Thank you not for beating me to it.

It is a good thing that we think it is important to find a way out.

The youth are the agents of change anywhere and it is a good thing that we are saddened, as seen in the other thread by our divisive state.

I am of the opinion that whatever we discuss here or agree on should be sent to the secretary of the NSCIA, the JNI(eith the Sultan as its head, MUSWEN and the league of Imams and Alfas of south west Nigeria.


We may not send it to them all. We may not write a letter, we may just send the link.

Whatever we decide should be about making them aware of how the Young Muslims of Nigeria want them to come together henceforth and AGREE on a standard system of moon sighting and its eventual broadcast to the Nigerian Populace.


May Allah help us to arrive at the best conclusions. May He accept our Ibadah.



Ramadan Mubarak.

tbaba1234: If I live in a community that starts fasting earlier. I will fast with them, not because I agree with them but because it is the right thing to do.

If everyone who disagrees with the leadership doesn't fast, it creates a fitnah.

It is like the idea behind not having a second jama'ah

May Allah forgive everyone of us.

This hadith is also stated-
Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “The fast is the day when you fast and al-Fitr is the day when you break the fast, and al-Adha is the day when you offer the sacrifice.” Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 697,


showing that it doesnt matter too much, the discrepancies.

^^

I posted an article from Islam Q&A but removed it so that mire arguments dont ensue.

It is stated that anyone who wouldnt follow the local authorities would have to do their thing in hiding. i.e if breaking earlier than others, must not eat publicly and if fasting earlier must do it without announcing it.

The need to not cause unnecessary rife is stated. This is what our leaders should look into in order to stop the North/south divide.

[quote author=PEN_MIGHT]I am holding on to ur opinion on this. I quite agree with this precise summary.
This affair is clear and we shouldn't bother ourselves by imposing a burden that was not even exterminated by the Best of generations.

"Fasting is when people fast and breaking is when people breaks". This gives us the right to follow our rightly choosen leaders.

It is the practice of the Sahaba to sight the moon THEN MAKE IT KNOWN TO THE AMIR-UL-MUMEEN.

Whoever sights the moon should make effort at contacting their imams and the imams,the Amir.

However IF A TRUSTWORTHY IMAM CONFIRMS OR VERIFIES THE SIGHTING,FASTING SHOULD COMMENCE IN THAT LOCALTY WITHOUT DELAY.

Imams that commences fasting or prays taraaweeh based on calender or calculations should not be followed.

ALLAH IS THE SOURCE OF TAWFEEQ![/quote]You know, there was a time We, my family used to follow the North/sultan and majority of the other people in Ibadan would follow the Imam.

It was always awkward eating all about while the whole of Ibadan was still fasting.

When I learnt of the great scholar's position which I have learnt to be the position of the ahlus Sunnah wal Jama'a, I didnt even think twice before I accepted it to be right and tried to inform every other person, especially the ones I care about, about it.


The hikmah behind it is sooo glaring.

May Allah forgive us all.

maclatunji: Many local authorities chose tomorrow to start without any regard to the Sunnah of the Prophet (SAW). I have to eat but there is a clear explanation of my position here (Moonsighting for Ramadan http://www.coolstuff49ja.com/2013/07/moonsighting-for-ramadan.html?m=1 )

Imams can be wrong. All too often regarding this matter in Nigeria , they are.

I am not going to read what someone says on a blog. what makes the blogger right?

I have stated why I said what I said above. The position of an Imam.

edicha80: ‎​Nigerian Breaking News
Ramadan moon has not
been sighted in UAE, Saudi
Arabia, Egypt, Palestine and
Jordan and Wednesday,
July 10, is the first day of
the holy month of
Ramadan.
The UAE's moon sighting
committee has announced
that tomorrow, Tuesday 9
July 2013, will be the 30th
day of the month of
Sha'aban and accordingly,
Wednesday 10 July 2013
will be the first day of the
holy month of Ramadan.
Sheikh Shawki Allam, Mufti
of Committees for
Legitimacy and Scientific
Fatwa of Egypt, announced
that Wednesday is the first
day of Ramadan.
The Chief Justice said in
Jordan on Monday via state
television said Wednesday
will be the first day of the
month of Ramadan in the
Kingdom.
Mufti of Palestine Sheikh
Mohammed Hussein also
declared that the holy
month will begin on
Wednesday as there's been
no evidence of moon
sighting.
Most of the astronomers
had predicted that the holy
month of Ramadan will
begin on Wednesday.
The Sharjah Planetarium at
the Department of Culture
and Information
announced that the
Ramadan Crescent will
form on July 8, 2013 at
11:14am and set at
19:08pm, five minutes
before the sunset. The
crescent will be seen on
July 9 in the evening. So
the first day of Ramadan
will be July 10,
astronomically,
corresponding to Ramadan
01, 1434 H.
Bangkok Post has
announced that the Muslim
religious authority in
Thailand has declared
Wednesday as the first day
of the holy month. Because
Ramadan begins on
Wednesday, the Eid al-Fitr
celebration marking the
end of the 30-day fasting
period will be on Aug 9, it
said

It doesnt matter what is happening elsewhere. Follow your own Imams.

annoymous: I don't see any justification for fasting tomorrow in the south west especially since SCIATICA has announced that the moon has not been sighted anywhere. Tomorrow, at best, is Yaom ush-Shaq (the day of doubt).

You know what, in Islam, the best for our communal living is always sought for.

Our Imams in the south west already have calendars they follow and choose the dates long before anything moon can be sighted.

Even then, one of the great scholars, Imam ibn Taymiyyah(hopefully, there is no mix up with the name) in one of his books made it known that the best thing to do at a time like this is to follow your local authority(Imam).


Now would it be good that in a place like Ibadan for example, we would have Hausas, living in sabo, who definitely saw no moon either breaking while the Yorubas are still fasting?

Is Islam a tribal religion or are we not to be seen under an umbrella where tribe has no meaning?

Until our leaders achieve the maturity that allows them sit down and devise the proper means of getting a uniform message to us all on when to start and or break our fast, the word of this great scholar reigns supreme.

We are to stay as one and do the same thing as the people or the Muslim leaders of the community where we find ourselves as per starting and breaking of our fasts.


wa Allahu a'lam.

tintingz: Naah, not the chief imam of Lagos... na the imam wey dey for our area mosque gan gan anounced it that fasting starts tomorrow and almost every mosque in my area are praying tarawih.

Reporting live from Lagos

alright.

It is most likely the case in the whole of the south West.

I just spoke wv my peeps in Ibadan telling them to listen to the Chief Imam of Ibadan land, Alhaji Busari Suarau Haruna the 111

It appears that the majority from South West Nigeria are starting tomorrow while the Northerners will start the day after it.



I am hopeful that in the future, there will be a common ground to allow for the standardisation of moon sighting in Nigeria.

mu2sa2: Sultan is the only emir that announces commencement of Ramadan in the north. If the moon crescent is sighted in ilorin or anywhere else in the north the news is normally relayed to the sultan who, after confirmation, makes the announcement.

The sultan has made the announcement. The emir is reported to have made his own via Facebook.

Tczar: We av observed our tarawey here in ogbomoso,bt am nt sure wether d imam confirm d seachin of d moon b4 we observe it.

confirm please and join the Imam when they start.

If no confirmation, prepare to fast and continue or break it depending on what is happening in your area tomorrow.

yetunsbay: OSUN STATE...announced by President League of Imams and Alfas South West,Edo,Delta

If you are in any of these states, the best thing is to follow what is said there. Start with them on the 9th and end when they declare it

Najyin: Let's stop deceiving ourselves. Is there more than 30 days in any Islamic month ? The first day of Shaban was sighted on the 9th of July,2013 in Katsina state. So if you don't fast tomao, you've 1 more obligatory fast to complete it. You can quote me wrong. Nigerians love fasting for only 29 days. Which is wrong !

Are you a scholar?

There is a big problem with some people thinking they are wiser than others.

Even at the time of the prophet, there are reported instances of people starting on different days and even the Prophet(S.A.W) didnt talk arrogantly about anyone deceiving themselves.

tintingz: Reporting from Lagos, we are starting tomorrow

You should be specific. Is your messg from the Chief Imam of Lagos or your ratibi mosque Imam?

what are you hiding sef

maclatunji: Your Imam is totally wrong.

You cant say that an Imam is wrong. That is the message we have been trying to pass all thr while.


Thr right thing is to follow what your local authorities say. There is nothing like an Imam is wrong.

annoymous: Shouldn't the Sultan be making a broadcast on this? Lets be patient. I'm in Ogun state too and went to the mosque and met them already praying Taraweeh only for the Imam to cut it short that the moon had not been sighted.

what about the Chief Imam of Abeokuta. If he doesnt make any announcement, listen for the Sultan's

seedord247: Below

That is for Saudi sir.

Wait for the Nigerian authorities to make their own announcement(s)

yetunsbay: tomorrow brodas

town and state?

kkkp: Authorities of Saudi Arabia have officially declared Wednesday as 1st Ramadan 1434AH

That applies to you only if you are in Saudi.

SAMMYTOPE: Yh thanks. Bt it doesn't ask the question tho

Now ask your questions.

tintingz: Our imam have confirmed it, fasting starts tomorrow

where is your Imam. Do you realise that what your Imam says applies to only those of you who are his congregation? that is why I am asking you to state where you are.

That he sighted the moon or saw someone who did is even irrelevant but I'd like to know please.

Walexz02: inshaAllah from the central mosque. But as usually tins may change,bt I am prepared sha.

ok. let us know if there is any update

redirect here- https://www.nairaland.com/1351842/news-when-start-fasting

feekman: Pls some ppl say its start tomorrow some say wednessday pls which day gangan ar we goin to start ramadan-fastn?

where do you live?

Dawdy: Ramadan starts day after tomorrow Insha Allah.

where is that info from?

Chiefupper: live from ilorin,nothing yet but some mosques observed taraweeh and people are getting prepare as our king can come out with his sirene cars and announce that the moon has been sighted that fasting starts tomorrow,so let's keep our finger crossed till 2 pm tomorrow morning

Please let us know when the Emir speaks.

kkkp: From d calender...u all have to be patient frm nw till arnd 11pm to 12 to rili knw

Please dont tell us info you get from calendars. We asked of updates from Muslim authorities in your locality.

Walexz02: I heard its not 2morow again,we have already garthered for asham prayer before we heard it would start on wednesday.
Ibrahim 4rm oyo east lga.

So, Oyo East Local Government people are starting on wednesday. That's good. was the announcement by the Chief Imam?.