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Good post.

YOU should do what you want to do and when done, buy advert space here and advertise.

IF you need people here's opinion before starting, you probably aren't going to do anything.

So brother, I really wish you the best. NL is good enough, for now as you can see.

Ihdina siratal Mustakeem

SLIDE waxie: So? What's d big deal in a reflex action that resulted in a meaningless propaganda?

Oya, what does it mean?

Dnt be surprised if they grow up to be sworn enemies

Mtcheeeewwww....unnecessary hyping!

I agree it is coincidence(well, God allowed it
) and shouldnt be given unnecessary meanings.

They are not even identical twins(of the same egg)

neonates naturally tighten their grips. It is no big deal.

atikubaba: Ramadan kareem to all muslims.Unfortunatelly,due to ill health I wont be able to fast this year(first time since I could tell my left from right).May ALLAH grant me healing and make me live long to witness more of the months and be able to fast in them.May ALLAH grant good health to us all.Ramadan kareem.

AMIN.

I wish you quick recovery.

Amdoyin: Even if he ws kidnappd, d kidnapper shud av ask 4 ransom nd negotiation wil be made.. Dere is more 2 it jare. We av islamic clerics nd sheikhs al ova d world who can foretell his whereabout weda dead or alive... Anyway, if he's alive may allah bring him bk safely, nd if on d oda hand may allah grant him aljanat fridaou.. Death is inevitable! Evrybody must die one way or d oda.

There is nothing like a scholar foretelling anything. Sorcery is haram.

Any form of shirk should be avoided by the family in the search for him.

May he be safe.

People should try and be sensitive.

Op is his son for God's sake.


May Allah keep him safe wherever he is.

Al jazeera used to be the one you turn to for the truth.

This doesnt sound good at all.

Amin. Allahu akram

A similar thread already exists. This one will be locked.

https://www.nairaland.com/1353188/ramadan-kareem

mukina2: May the peace and blessings of this holy month be upon us all, our families and the entire ummah Ameen
Ramadan Kareem!

Ameen.

Allahu Akram

Ramadan Kareem to everyone. May Allah accept our ibadah, Use this ramadan to teach us patience, perseverance, worship and everything good. May He put us firm in His deen and forgive our sins.


I pray that all our special and other prayers are answered in this holy Month.


Let us endeavour to pray and pray for forgiveness and for the hereafter.


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aieromon: Bunch of m0r0ns. . . .

Olodos at work

In sha Allah, all the points here would be noted.

Relevant authorities will hear our voices and feel our discomfort at what is going on.


In sha Allah, the future is BRIGHT.

kambah: Who are the local imams, imagine a scholars that taught your great-fathers, you are calling them local imams. Anyway, I don't blame you, you are among people that terrorising islam by claiming unnecessary sunnah. Your types are in Egypt, Libya, Syria, Tunisia. May Allah protect us from evil youths that are trying to introduce new way of practising Islam.

The word, local isn't meant to be derogatory. They are called local because they are close to the people.

toba: Shut up you slowpoke. See im a real estate chartered professional and anyone can make figures from assumptions and imaginations.

You claimed to be married and now you close to 30 and all of the sudden single.

You are a bloody and pathetic liar. A clown and attention seeking mumu.

https://www.nairaland.com/977487/s.o.s-wifes-new-job.

BTW you are too little to buy me SUV. I pay salaries month at an average sum that can cater for your imaginary wedding arrangement

why so serious? too many lies on here.

jelel6: I beg to differ, but most of the posts I have read here are all sentimental. Believe me, matters of religion can only be cleared by the the laws of that religion. It amazes me that most of the solutions you guys profer here are ALL BASED on personal deductions and preferences. Without any references to the authentic sources (quran and hadith).in fact i dont see reasons 4 all this fuss. According to the sunnah, (cant remember exact no) we were told that shaban is 29 days. But if the moon its not sighted, then make shaban 30 days, and commence your fast the next day whether the moon is sighted or not. In this scenario today 9th is the 30th of shaban. And the fast begins tomorrow wednesday 10th of july.

The hadith you quoted is right but is not what the thread is about.

The thread is about finding SOLUTIONS. so what do you think should be done to ensure that the shariah is followed by all, starting from the forthcoming Ramadan.

ewet: Its only here you find this issue of discripancy in the appropriate ramadan commencement dates.

The arabs who are the progentors of islam have their own calender called the Hijri-arabic or hijra-english. This calender is diff from the gregorian calender which we have adopted here in naija.

The gregorian calender is the usual 12 months january to december which we are used to. The hijri on the other hand is based on the lunar trajectory which is similar to the chinese calender. The hijri is also a 12 month calender which commences with the month of muharram as the fist month and ends with Dhu al-hijja as the 12th month.
The hijri calender also consist of btw 354 to 355 days similar to the western gregorian calender. We are presenly in the 1434 AH according to the hijri and this year commenced on exactly the 14th of november 2012 and we are in the 9th month which is the month of fasting called Ramadan.

The month of rmadan is the 9th month of the hijri and the month set aside for the annual fasting in islam. There is no controversy whtsoever. If you shuld go to saudi-arabia today,every1 commences fasting today 9th of july 2012 which is the 1st day in the month of ramadan.

Too much wrong info in your post.

*The problem isn't a Nigerian thing but ours is specially tribal.

*Saudi is commencing tomorrow

*The hijarah isnt an arab calendar but an Islamic one.

money miss way


Did you work for that money?

vedaxcool: true talk, we can't really profer solutions if we do not understand why the imans in the south west especially always differ with scia and vice versa. unless we understand why, which seem more of ethnic then we can sort out why.

So you are saying it isnt a lack of knowledge but ethnic bigotry.

so do we teach them the ahadith of the problem against tribalism or do we show them the ills of tribalism.

or do we just leave them and hope that they realise what is wrong.

tbaba1234: ^ deols,If traditions are inaccurate, why stick to it? Like Allah says:

when it is said to them, ‘Come to what God has sent down, and to the Messenger,’ they say, ‘What we inherited from our forefathers is good enough for us,’ even though their forefathers knew nothing and were not guided. (Surah 5:104)

This thing has lasted for a long time, I do not think, they are unaware. There are tribal undertones as well.

They have simply resisted change.

That said, you are correct about how to bring change.

The wrong traditions must be changed but they fail to see it and we have to make them see it.

golpen: I think another problem we have is kind of ethnic. The yorubas don't always really want to agree with the hausas on the issue of moon sighting. But I think it will be easier to sight in the north. I don't know if I'm wrong, but I've grown up to hear our people saying "that's hausa's fast".

I think there's a need for all these organisations to come as one, and any other organisation should get a certification from the chief organisation, regardless of the differences in any form.

I think this is affecting the muslims in the world scene too. The main problems of the muslims started when we stopped having a caliph. No thanks to us all on that.

Yeah. I agree with the ethnic part. Some cannot agree that the Sultan is the leader of the Muslims of Nigeria.

The problem is world over, really.

and Yes! We need to preach how Islam is not tribal and we are all ONE.

Nairatalks: Despite these benefits, fasting has some demerits. It may cause reduction in body water called dehydration. This leads may lead to headaches and even trigger migraines in predisposed persons. It may worsen heartburn and peptic ulcer. Pregnant women, nursing mothers, malnourished people, and individuals with cardiac arrhythmias, renal or liver problems are advised not to fast.

dont be too happy.


Fasting is not compulsory on everyone.

People who cannot fast for health reasons are exempted.


@op, I need it for no.7

tosin2013: Well done my brethren! May ALLAH reward us all. That's one of d reasons why I like nairaland.

Expect my contribution soon.

May Allah reward you too.

Expecting, in sha Allah.

tbaba1234: It makes no sense that some people just fix dates based on their whims.

How can this be stopped? What is the way out?

Ramadan Mubarak in advance.

It sounds like it makes no sense.But I dont think it is as simple as that.

I believe the origin of what is going on is very long ago when all the means of communication we have now werent there.

They resorted into astronomical ways of calculating the dates and made calendars. It was okay then because even if they would get information from elsewhere, say the North, it would take them days.

With the advent of technology, came youths who thought they knew more than the old people, stopped listening to them and started doing what the older generation saw as alien.

The older people decided to form a stronghold and go against anything, one or ruling against what they have hitherto known to be right. Here is how they got it wrong.

Islam/knowledge is never to be forced down a people's throat. I believe that a way out would be that whatever decision we make is an inclusive one. The Imams should see themselves as part of the decision makers rather than people shoved aside for their lack of knowledge or technology or how the world is moving.

busar: Ramadan isn't a new thing in Islam. The prophet alongside his companions has observed it before us. What we need in this our country(9ja) is obedience to the sunnah and our leaders(not your local imams o). I think if we followed the sunnah strictly there will be no problem of moon fighting.

what you stated is not new to us.

We want practical solutions to the matter on ground.

How do you think we can end this

Sammytope, are you a Christian? are you the one we are talking about here?

answering these would help me to understand you better.

thanks

This was never to be about the person who can make the better or superior argument. Or the one who can make the most mouth.


It is about having a discourse that improves our knowledge, understanding and practice of Islam.

Any error I must have made here, I pray Allah forgives me of it.

Ramadan is when to practice the best of manners and hopefully, we'll learn.

Here is my last on this thread, in sha Allah


Ramadan Mubarak.

From my fact findings in Nigeria, many people in the south west didnt fast today.


There were messages sent around by MUSWEN and their likes to discourage people from fasting.


Those who must have fasted are the ones who kept to the pre stated dates some local Imams may have been speaking of.


From Ibadan, I heard that the chief Imam didnt make an announcement to ask Ibadan people to fast. Rather the Muslim community of OYO state, chaired by Alhaji Ishaq Kunle Sanni made announcements pronouncing wednesday as the 1st of Ramadan.

It may not have been as bad as we think or thought.


Alhamdulillah. I believe things are only starting to get better.

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We have disagreed this time around. Let us work towards how to not disagree a second time.