₦airaland Forum

hymen:
Another silly assumpion. Courtship depends on the parties involved. people decide between themselves how their courtship should be. Within the arab world you have conservative & less conservative couple. Or even liberal ones esp those that studied abroad. . . .so stop assuming. . . madam housemaid?

I cant stop to wonder why what i said is so hard for you to understand. I only made it clear that courtship is allowed in islam and the undertone would have meant they could have done that to avoid this kinda situation.

and i made it clear that the one allowed in Islam( and not in arab culture) is different because all that is done during the period  has to be in the presence of a mahram.
With these i have only one conclusion, you argue only for the sake of arguing.

hymen:
And please what does 'exagerrated brain' mean ? 

Are you lettered at all ? Or you're a housemaid/nanny in saudi ?

IF you did go to school well enough like u want us to think, u'd know such is spoken. That your folks are maids anywhere doesnt make anyone that. I live a kind of life u'll have to work 3 jobs to earn. Am here to study and not 2 earn a living like your parents. Now you know what that means especially wv the dollar rates nd all.

hymen:
@deorl,Its people like you that  just look for trouble anyhow. .  . .listen to yourself  - "I live among arabs"' . . .duh ! 
As if all arabs behave the same.

I was born in Kuwait & I have spent all my life in the Middle East,I speak arabic better than my mother tongue,so be careful what you say.

My opinion has to do with the personality if you can read properly & not the religion/holy book.

Learn to read with an open mind & stop casting aspersions.

So you now claim you didnt refer to the holy book when you just did again.If your claim is that you blaim her personality and not the holy book,then its exactly what i meant too.

@ t.truth
lets see how you do it

I sure know God doesnt have to degrade himself to the level of a man in order to prove his Power. Why would he allow the people he created drag him in mud and even nail him to a cross. Haba! this is so ridiculous!

@ Alimat 2

am sure u'r not bothered by what he/they must have said. So many people committed great sins, became muslims with repentance and the almighty forgave them. An example is Umar who buried his own daughter alive and also the man who killed 100 people.

@ Emeka,

I cant believe you have the gut to invite anyone to church in this manner. U used such words as 'opening your legs, ' and that doesnt seem bad enof? u sure are the one who needs so much deliverance from whichever of the so many devils that are in your life.

Shukran Jazeelan

Thank you so much. Do you say something special during the extra sujud 4 ba'ddi or qabli

uplawal:
Naija muslims particularly most of the yorubas are weak and cowards, i thought as much when is a yoruba muslim that answered them,yoruba muslims would be the last to join the other muslim Army if eventually the need arise in the future, honestly, i feel ashamed if we can not unite as muslims and fight the enemies in accordance with the SHARIA

Islam allows muslims to fight only when there is a reason to and Allah even warns us against starting an aggression. It would be very wrong of Nigerian muslims to start holding arms against non-muslims only because they arent muslims. It is ok that the muslims of Nigeria dissociate themselves from the al-Qaeda or would you still call their cause islamic when they kill women, children, innocent people and even muslims! Dont forget the killing of others is one of the greatest sins in Islam. I hope people with more knowledge of this would enlighten us.

My mum told me she received this letter when she was young, i received the same about five years ago and again last year. It is important we verify the messages we receive before passing them to others. We sure wouldnt want to be questioned about our part in the spread of falsehood. May allah help us

i pray we are among the people who will see Allah on that day. If the man who enters last would receive this much, how much d'u think the first group would.

illusion2:
This is actually my concern with teh way people take their religion to heights that were never intended.

Simple courtship rules insist you know what you're getting into or request your mother/sister to do a proper 'assessment'.

Indians also arrange marriages ,but they give you about a week or so to meet your potential spouse and get to resolve potential compartibility issues. . . I do feel sorry for the lady kinda,if indeed the story is true. .

Islam also allows the man to know his potential bride but disallows the kinda courtship you are talking about. he is allowed to speak with the lady and even see her face in the presence of a mahram(a family member whom she cannot be maried to) b4 their weddn

hymen:
True,the problem is these people avoid all these simple issues and believe the Hijab & Koran answers all of life's challenges.

I feel because she was hiding behind the Hijab ,no one could give her candid advice on facial remedies.

Sad,sad.

You know wat happens when you use your over exaggerated 'brain' to juge issues? i live among arabs and i must tell you they care about their looks more than anything, especially for their husbands.so dont try blaming the quran or islam for the axn of this woman.

[quote author=Wily+Wily link=topic=396920.msg5497756#msg5497756 date=1265923517]Shame to Hausa/Fulani and Yoruba, they were the producers of bad and corrupt leaders that led this Country to decay. Shame to them.[/quote]The non Hausa/Fulani and Yoruba av not proven themselves worthy by governing their own people right but Thank God you now have the opportunity to determine if they are all the same.

[quote author=tpia. link=topic=395077.msg5496572#msg5496572 date=1265911851]see what a cursory scan through your posts turned up:

I just dey suspect you're not who you say you are on this forum, and voila- your posts confirmed the same.

Seriously, the links between many NL extremist muslims and satanism/cultism is a lot of food for thought.

yes, come back and say you were joking [/quote]i didnt expect anyone to be a little bright to realise this is a JOKe

Salam alykum,
I know ishai is best observed b4 going to bed. If someone sleeps late @ around past 12 or 1 a.m. is it still valid to pray Ishai @ these time?

Abut Ba'di and Qabli, i know a lot of people are confused about the rulings. I need to be sure i am not. Pls I need someone to explain

kaypound:
Now we can never be off that terror list again, This makes Visa grants more difficult and checking in more humiliating from immigration/security officers.

Must everything be black or white? you are not even sure what their motive was. It would be better if Nigerians are less judgemental

davidylan:
was Abuzola among them? He's still posting!

Try being objective. This is an adult site

Nigerians pride themselves over nothing. U'd be surprised at how better very smaller countries than Nigeria are,starting from their airports. am not surprised anyone's moving to Yemen.Nigerians are everywhere.

luvola:
deol ,u better giv yur life to

What would be left for me when i give my life to a fellow man.

Salam alykm,

Every1's been askn 4 prayers.Mine is for us schooldents. You all know what we want-DISTINCTIONS.

Abu Zola:
Allahu Akbar, God is Great.

We are looking forward for tudor, noetic, davidylnd, osisi and t truth to follow the path. May Allah guide us aright amin

and i hope Notoatheism comes to say YES to Islam!

I am loving Soyinka at the moment as He talks of the political situation of Nigeria on Amanpour,CNN.
You can add your view by logging on to Amanpour.com/facebook.

[quote author=tpia. link=topic=391381.msg5444018#msg5444018 date=1265263986]HELLOOO


The man was a muslim before. He decided to announce it now, because he disagreed with his party's position on minarets.

Personally there's something fishy about him imo but dont let me spoil y'all's joy.[/quote]Why not state your source

Seerah
Zaynab bint Jahsh

I particularly like Zaynab because of the personality she portrays. that of a hard worker and a giver.

She was the cousin of the prophet (SAW).Her mother, Umayma being the daughter of Abdulmuttalib, the prophet’s Grandfather. Abdulmuttalib was one of the respected leaders of the Quraysh. Thus Zaynab bint Jahsh came from one of the noblest families and everyone expected her to eventually marry someone with the same high social status.
The prophet was aware that a person’s standing in the sight of Allah is important rather than his or her status in the eyes of people. He therefore wanted her to marry a young man, Zayd ibn Harith, whose background was very different from hers.
About Zayd
Zayd had been taken prisoner as a child during one of the inter tribal wars that had been common before the coming of Islam. He had been sold as a slave to the nephew of Khadija who had given Zayd to her as a gift and She In turn, had given him to the prophet(SAW).The prophet gave him his freedom and adopted him as his own son @ d age of eight.

The prophet had watched both of them grow and wanted to demonstrate to the people that their parenthood is not what matters but their standing in the sight of Allah. He asked for Zaynab’s hand in marriage on behalf of Zayd. She and her family refused until the following aaya was revealed
It is not for a believing man or a believing woman when a matter has been decided by Allah and His messenger to have any say in their decision; and whoever disobeys Allah and his messenger has clearly gone astray.(33:36)

After this verse was revealed, both Zayd and Zaynab agreed to the marriage and the prophet provided an handsome dowry to Zaynab on Zayd’s behalf.
The marriage however wasn’t a success. Although Both Zayd and Zaynab were the best of people who feared Allah and his messenger, they were very different and in the end could not overcome their incompatibility. Zayd asked the prophet’s permission to divorce Zaynab more than once, and although he was counseled to hold on to his wife and fear Allah, in the end the divorce took place.

The prophet was then ordered by Allah to marry Zaynab which he did in 5A.H, when he was 58 years old and she was 35.Before Zaynab’s marriage to Zayd, she had wanted to marry the prophet and he had even been asked by her family if he would like to marry her or not. It was therefore a ‘dream come true’

When the prophet received the command to marry her, he smiled and said who will go and give Zaynab the good news? and he recited the aaya. Some say it was Zayd himself who took her the good news. When Zaynab heard the news, She stopped what she was doing and prayed to thank Allah. Afterwards she was fond of pointing out that her marriage was arranged by Allah.
Her lifestyle
Zaynab was a woman who was always immersed in the worship of Allah.
It was related by Anas ibn Malik that once the prophet entered the mosque and found a rope hanging down between two pillars, so he said,” what is this?” He was told ,’It is for Zaynab. She prays and when she losses concentration or feels tired she holds on to it.’ The prohet said ‘untie it. Pray as long as you feel fresh but when you lose concentration and become tired then you should stop. ’
She was also very generous to the poor and the prophet said this about her to his other wives, ‘She is the most generous of you’
The prophet said to Umar, ’Zaynab bint Jahsh is one who is full of prayer.’ A man said “messenger of Allah, what is that?”. He said ‘the one who is humble and earnest in prayer.
Aisha also said of her ‘I have never seen a woman so pure as Zaynab, so God-fearing, so truthful, so attentive to family ties, so generous, so self-sacrificing in everyday life, so charitable, and thus so close to Allah, the exalted.’

As with every marriage of the prophet, there is always at least, a lesson to learn. His marriage to Zaynab confirmed that it is permissible for cousins to marry. It also demonstrated that in Islam, an adopted son is not regarded in the same light as a natural son and that although a man may never marry a woman whom his natural son was married to and then divorced, the father of an adopted son is permitted to marry a woman who was once married, but is no longer married to that adopted son.
Her wedding feast was another occasion for an ayah to be revealed. After the walimat (wedding feast ),two men remained chatting and it was very hard for the prophet, who finds it hard to criticise people to ask them to leave. Allah then revealed the ayah known as the ayah of the hijab (33:53-56)
Her Death
Zaynab was with the prophet for six years and lived for another nine after his death, dying @ the age of 50.
Several years after the prophet had died, during d reign of Umar, great wealth came to the Muslims as a result of fighting the Persians. The treasures of the empire fell into their hands. Umar sent a pile of gold to Zaynab which she sent to all the poor people she knew until what remained was only eighty dinars.
Because she believed so much money was a temptation, she asked Allah that she would never witness such a large distribution of wealth again.
Her prayer was granted. She wasn’t alive the following year when Umar was there to distribute money among the wives of the prophet.
It was related by Aisha that the prophet once said to his wives, ‘The one who has the longest hands among you will meet me again the soonest.’ Aisha added that they used to measure each other’s hands to see which was the longest and it was the hand of Zaynab, because she used to work by hand and give away in charity.

Ref- The wives of the prophet Muhammad by
Ahmad Thomson (Ta-ha publishers, uk)

Salam alykum to all,
it took me more than a week to read all of the posts in this thread as i usually dont have much time to spend on line. I just couldnt miss any part of it. I feel proud and privileged to be among the kind of people who are able to give their best to fellow Muslims.


I am particularly interested in Nanai's case. I understand it is better the father is not taken to court so as not to aggravate the situation. But i also think something is to be done to stop people who do such things so that others might learn from them and hopefully,it can be eradicated. I know there are independent Shari'a courts in Lagos and Ibadan where such matters are dealt with,if the case is taken there, they might be able to call him to order.

[quote author=t.truth link=topic=364852.msg5439660#msg5439660 date=1265202240]Freedom indeed !!!

[/quote]And wats d sarcasm about?

Kay 17:
luv to get my d.i.c.k sucked and chop puss*

since you got nothing to guide your life, i aint surprised

Good to know its no sin to feel this way

well said

welcome brother, may Allahmake it easy for you