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Car TalkRe: The Scam Of 6 Months Nigerian Used Cars For Sale by Dereformer(m): 10:05pm On Dec 03, 2016
this thread made my evening.
CareerRe: If You Think You Know IFRS Answer This And Get N1000 MTN Card by Dereformer(op): 8:49pm On Dec 03, 2016
fotogirl:
In practice or industry?
Industry. And you?
Car TalkRe: This Question Is For GAZZUZZ And Other Auto Professionals by Dereformer(op): 7:45pm On Dec 02, 2016
sultaan:
The smaller the engine and the better the fuel economy.

If that is your main criteria then your choice should be a car with engine size from 1.4l to 2.0l max.

The smaller the engine the cheaper the car, so you are looking for a cheap car.



The only cars that meets your criteria on that list is 1&4 (same engine)

Also you should look for the cheapest cars in other brands you will find something that is more desirable in terms of looks,price affordability, reliability, safety Toyota is not the only car in the market look at Honda,Mazda, Mitsubishi, Nissan, Kia,Mercedes,VW,Ford, GM and Peugeot.

These brand account for most of the casr in the market and their cheapest models are

Honda- fit,jazz,civic
Mazda- mazda2, mazda3
Mitsubishi- Lancer, mirage
Nissan- Versa, Sentra
Kia- Elantra, forte,Rio
Mercedes- A-class, C-class
VW- Golf,Jetta
Ford- Focus, fiesta
GM- Chevy cruze, cobalt,sonic,aveo
Peugeot- 207, 307

You don't have to buy any of the listed but you must look at each one of them get in the driver seat and enquire about the price before you buy any car to know which is the best for you.
But sir, the cars you listed above may be costly to maintain.

Their parts may not be readily available like Toyota parts. against almost all mechanics know how to repair Toyota vehicles.

Thanks for comments.
CareerRe: If You Think You Know IFRS Answer This And Get N1000 MTN Card by Dereformer(op): 7:25pm On Dec 02, 2016
fotogirl:
Yes, and I guess you are one.
Yes.
CareerRe: If You Think You Know IFRS Answer This And Get N1000 MTN Card by Dereformer(op): 6:18pm On Dec 02, 2016
fotogirl:
I mean no Ifrs to back the reschedule up. If there is you wouldn't be asking your question now, you will just go to ifrs 9.
Yes. No Ifrs envisaged a reschedule.


Just out of curiosity, are you an accountant?
CareerRe: If You Think You Know IFRS Answer This And Get N1000 MTN Card by Dereformer(op): 4:19pm On Dec 02, 2016
fotogirl:
After my research, I saw that expert has been using their judgement to account for below market rate related party loan the way you said.
No Ifrs to back it up, why not use your judgement to account for the reschedule.
I.e Fair value again over the shorter or longer term take difference to sopl, perform amortised cost on the fv loan to get finance cost.
Take it as a change inaccounting estimate, so account for it prospectively.

That is just my take on it o. Ask expert.
It actually has ifrs backing. Study the following standards on Financial instruments and you will see IFRS recommended treatment of related party loans at less than market rate. IFRS 9, 7, IAS 32 and IFRS 13 (fair value)
InvestmentRe: Fear Grips Nigerians In MMM, Others As Ponzi Website, Ultimate Cycler, Crashes by Dereformer(m): 2:37pm On Dec 02, 2016
DEXTROVERT:
Ultimate cycler didn't crash, it website upgrade and it's back..
Stop
Spreading
False
News
Guy, I pity you.
PoliticsRe: Polytechnics Vs University Students Top Debate – HND Better Than B.sc 2nd Class by Dereformer(m):
I am a product of the two systems.

I have HND (Accounting) Distinction

I have Bsc (Accounting) First Class honours.

Believe me, I saw it all in the ivory towers.
Car TalkRe: This Question Is For GAZZUZZ And Other Auto Professionals by Dereformer(op): 1:51pm On Dec 02, 2016
Promxy94:
What of eod because those are the two choices am considering
A 2003 eod
Or a 04 or 5 civic
Which would u advice Me to go for
One for cheap maintaince and not expensive parts
Thanks sir
Oga open your own thread now. why are you disturbing oga GAZZUZZ in my thread?
Car TalkThis Question Is For GAZZUZZ And Other Auto Professionals by Dereformer(op): 12:51pm On Dec 02, 2016
Please, which of these rides will you recommend to someone. the recommended one must be fuel efficient.

The car will mainly be for going to work.

(1) Toyota Matrix 2001-2004

(2) toyota Rav 4 2001-2004

(3) Toyota camry 2002

(4) toyota corolla 2003-2004
CareerRe: If You Think You Know IFRS Answer This And Get N1000 MTN Card by Dereformer(op): 5:48am On Dec 02, 2016
fotogirl:
OK thanks
I still want to read your comments after the research.
CareerRe: If You Think You Know IFRS Answer This And Get N1000 MTN Card by Dereformer(op): 9:54pm On Dec 01, 2016
still waiting for IFRS professionals.
CareerRe: If You Think You Know IFRS Answer This And Get N1000 MTN Card by Dereformer(op): 9:49pm On Dec 01, 2016
fotogirl:
I believe you are wrong in accounting for this financial liability

1- the fv of the loan is the 10m minus any transaction cost

2- the main issue with related party transaction is disclosure

3- pv of the loan is not the fv, fv is the consideration received

4- the effective interest multiply by the fv minus transaction cost is your finance cost that should be deducted in sopl

5- loan amount of 10m minus pv of loan amount recorded in profit or loss is wrong.

To your question, Ifrs 9 is silent on treatment of amortised cost in a case of reschedule, but what I think you should do is recalculate the effective interest over the remaining years and apply it to the carrying amount before rescheduling.

I hope you get this. How about calling a chartered accountant close to you.
madam, sorry to say this, you don't have the understanding of accounting for related party loans received at a rate less than the market rate.

Google IFRS treatment of related party loans received at less than market rate.

Thank me later
CareerRe: If You Think You Know IFRS Answer This And Get N1000 MTN Card by Dereformer(op): 5:55pm On Dec 01, 2016
fotogirl:
I just read it again and saw you put it in the note that the loan is carried at amortised cost. I think I understand now.
The loan is accounted for using amortised cost. At initial recognition the Fair value is used to calculate the amortised cost. Now that the loan has been rescheduled you want to know if u need to get the current fair value to calculate another amortised cost.
Am I right?
This is the total scenerio.

Company A got a loan from a related party at an interest rate of 9%. The loan is to be repaid monthly with interest over a period of 3 years. the effective interest rate in an arms lenght transaction is 17%.

At the day one of the loan it was fair valued by calculating the PV of the future cash outflows with the effective interest rate.

The difference between the PV of the discounted loan and the loan amount was recognised in the profit or loss in accordance with IFRS 9.

For illustration, the figures here are hypothetical.

Loan granted to Company A is N10,000,000.00

PV of loan after discounting with the effective interest rate is N7, 367, 423.89

Difference which is recognised in the statement of profit or loss is N2,632,576.11


After this, using amortised cost, every month an interest on the outstanding loan ( calculated using 17%) is credited to the loan creditor
while any payment made as per the agreed repayment schedule is debited against the loan creditor.


Now, the loan has been rescheduled. The question is, should the loan be fair valued again from the begining bearing in mind that the loan term has changed. The original fair value was based on the fact that the loan will be repaid under three years.

I hope this anlysis helps.
CareerRe: If You Think You Know IFRS Answer This And Get N1000 MTN Card by Dereformer(op): 12:54pm On Dec 01, 2016
Dereformer:
We are accounting from the perspective of the loan receiver ie financial liability.
Note that the main import of the question is the effect of rescheduling on the already fair valued loan.

Should the loan be fair valued again bearing in mind the extention arising from the rescheduling?
Answers should be supported with relevant IFRS, IFRIC and/or the conceptual frame work.

NB. the loan is already accounted for at amortised cost.
CrimeRe: Update:Kidnapped Little Girl Who Was Rumoured 2 Be Dead In Abuja Is Still Alive by Dereformer(m): 12:48pm On Dec 01, 2016
Oh such an innocent looking girl. I am almost in tears now.
Don't these kidnappers have any atom of milk of human kindness?

Don't the kidnappers of this innocent girl have children, sisters or other little relations.

Why are we human so wicked to ourselves.

To he family of this innocent girl, I say take heart. My Jesus will surely bring your daughter back alive.
PoliticsRe: How Do You Sleep At Night?? by Dereformer(m): 9:32am On Dec 01, 2016
muhamad158:
It's Not just about The position you are sleeping or the steps you took... how do you sleep peacefully? after all you have seen, face and done? Does it haunt your dreams?
I dont give a poo.

Death laughs at us all. What can a man do other than laugh back.

In Buhari's Nigeria, the living envies the dead.
CareerRe: If You Think You Know IFRS Answer This And Get N1000 MTN Card by Dereformer(op): 8:19am On Dec 01, 2016
fotogirl:
Are you accounting as the loan giver(financial asset) or loan receiver( financial liability) , we need to perform business model/ cash flow test to determine whether d loan should be carried at fair value or amortised cost by finding the reason why they are holding the loan.

Is it for trading purpose or to get specified income at a certain date.





































Pls answer that to know the proper way to account for it.
We are accounting from the perspective of the loan receiver ie financial liability.
Note that the main import of the question is the effect of rescheduling on the already fair valued loan.

Should the loan be fair valued again bearing in mind the extention arising from the rescheduling?
Answers should be supported with relevant IFRS, IFRIC and/or the conceptual frame work.

NB. the loan is already accounted for at amortised cost.
Christianity EtcRe: How Should I Pay My Tithe? by Dereformer(m): 9:08am On Nov 30, 2016
toye440:
lost sheep, I can see u my friend r possessed with d spirit of Gehazi, b careful before u contact Nemans disease, u HV ur eyes on what pastors do with d money. can u even hear urself pls I like to know ur church, I hope u r not a back bencher who always comes wen church is about to close.
seriously pls r u even a Christian.
All these rant because i told you tithe is irrelevant today.
AutosRe: »»» Sold!! Sold!! Few Months Used Toyota Corolla 04 @ N1.350M Non Negotiable ««« by Dereformer(m): 8:56am On Nov 30, 2016
TrumpDonald2:
And where did you get your statistics from? Your skull?
I am ready to bet N1m, If your car has no single fault take the money. However, if it has one single fault, no matter how minor it is I will take the car and the money.

If you concur, then lets deal.
CareerRe: If You Think You Know IFRS Answer This And Get N1000 MTN Card by Dereformer(op): 8:52am On Nov 30, 2016
Tolakay:
Ok... Waiting for answers
Car TalkRe: Buying A Stolen Car. by Dereformer(op): 7:57am On Nov 30, 2016
Dereformer:
Please, knowledgeable people in the house, how do I guard against buying a stolen car.

I don't want to get into trouble in spending my hard earned money.

Somebody suggested I should as the sheller to obtain a Police report indicating he/she wants to sell his/her car.

Is the above suggestion ok?
AutosRe: Few Months Used Toyota Camry 2008 Model For 2.1m by Dereformer(m): 5:48am On Nov 30, 2016
what fixes should be made? It is important to know.
Car TalkBuying A Stolen Car. by Dereformer(op): 5:41am On Nov 30, 2016
Please, knowledgeable people in the house, how do I guard against buying a stolen car.

I don't want to get into trouble in spending my hard earned money.

Somebody suggested I should as the sheller to obtain a Police report indicating he/she wants to sell his/her car.

Is the above suggestion ok?
Car TalkRe: Buying A Used Car: 7 Key Things To CHECK FIRST by Dereformer(m): 9:59pm On Nov 29, 2016
I will need this post by February next year.
@op, can I consult you to advice on any car I want to buy?
my dream car for now is Toyota corolla 2003- 2005 model.
AutosRe: Why Are Car Dealers Hiking Prices Here On Nairaland by Dereformer(m): 9:40pm On Nov 29, 2016
FastShipping:
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With solid proof staring your red eyes, yet you are still being stubborn.
I repeat, you have no money and clueless.
Go and find a better work that pays enough to buy a car.

Here is another Lexus RX330 bought for another Nairalander recently.
Do the Maths and stop talking about things you have no clue about.
fastshipping, please can I have your contact. I need to do biz with you.
AutosRe: »»» Sold!! Sold!! Few Months Used Toyota Corolla 04 @ N1.350M Non Negotiable ««« by Dereformer(m): 9:05pm On Nov 29, 2016
TrumpDonald2:
What are you implying? That all cars are sold because of a fault?
99.999% of naija used car has one fault or the other.

when they they say 1 day used, it becomes more suspicious.
AutosRe: »»» Sold!! Sold!! Few Months Used Toyota Corolla 04 @ N1.350M Non Negotiable ««« by Dereformer(m): 5:14pm On Nov 29, 2016
What and what fixes do I need to make on the car? Don't tell me none because there must be a reason to sell.
CareerRe: ican by Dereformer(m): 12:39pm On Nov 28, 2016
ok
PoliticsRe: #ondodecides: Ondo State Governorship Election Monitoring/live Report Thread by Dereformer(m): 9:18pm On Nov 26, 2016
Tvegas:
Where are the shockers? If you are privy to any game changing result you should post it now. From all indication the race is between Aketi and Eyitayo at the moment. Oke is clearly lagging behind. ARIWO ko ni music o.
If this is true, then Tinubu has been permanently disabled politically.
AutosRe: SOLD.... Tokunbo 2003 Toyota Matrix XR For Sale At 1.7m.vin No:2t1kr38e03c052447 by Dereformer(m): 5:23pm On Nov 25, 2016
Was this car brought into Nigeria through sahara desert?
CareerRe: If You Think You Know IFRS Answer This And Get N1000 MTN Card by Dereformer(op): 11:02am On Nov 25, 2016
Dereformer:
A loan was advanced to a related party at an interest rate less than the market rate. At the inception of the loan, it was fair valued in line with IAS 39 and IFRS 9. The loan tenure is 3 years.

The loan has been rescheduled and a moratorium period of six months granted after 1 year 7 months into the loan period.

Now the question, what is the effect of the rescheduling on the fair value and subsequent accounting for the loan? Does the loan need to be fair valued again bearing in mind that FV is a function of time?



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