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IconicR:
Long overdue

When your thumbs move faster than your brain 😁

Lotanna2:
Tribunal do not convict people.obi has no substantial evidence so he fails

But this line of discussion is not about the tribunal's job. It's about you 'assuming' over 18000 polling units results won't make a difference as if that makes it okay to 'steal' them. 👇

Lotanna2:
Assuming there is a rerun in that 18000 unit,obi will still fail woefully owfully

This is legally termed 'assumption of fact' and that is very harmful to proceedings.

Lotanna2:
Hardcopies remain the originals.failure to build a case on that is fatal to obi

This is you thinking hard copy means anything different in Law. Damn. It's jus paper bro. Paper. INEC provided those evidence on paper, certified them and handed that to LP. They're hardcopies, just like any printed document lying about you right now.😁

Lotanna2:
it wasn't delivered from inec.you are being deceived

I don't want to call you a liar, but come on.. Did you follow the tribunal proceedings at all? Even in the face of evidence, y'all still run away from the truth 😲

Lotanna2:
In this case,no one stole your car.they just scooped a little petrol and you have no evidence

Thieves should be behind bars. They shouldn't even be in position to steal in the first place. From precedence, there'd always be the machinery to lie and cover-up what they actually did, in this case, absconding with the car and misrepresenting it as a petrol scoop 😴

Philgafauto:
...I hope it was included in LP written address sha?

Strange that you should be asking this at 11:39 PM.

You created a thread at 2:35 PM to say this:

Philgafauto:
..i expected more from Peter Obi's lawyers. While i may be a junior colleague of theirs, i am not happy with the quality of the written address. The address lacks coherence, logical flow and is filled with grammatical errors.

It is clear you formed an opinion before actually reading the address, which you hadn't still done yesterday else you'd have known the contents.🤷🏾‍♂️

Which begs the question, how many half-truths are in this submission of yours?

An artwork called Judith Scott twins. The purpose is to create an income for the owner when someone buys it.

oyatz:
The IREV copies are IMAGES, not the hardcopies.
If you use your phone to snap pictures of a result sheet and the pictures are blurred, it does NOT mean the results sheets are not clear.

INEC provided the hardcopies not IMAGE files. The documents were provided by INEC as certified true copies of the elections results in hard copies, not transferred via Xender or Instagram or some other photo sharing app.

Since they are certified, INEC takes the fall for any problems with it.

Lotanna2:
Assuming there is a rerun in that 18000 unit,obi will still fail woefully owfully

Assuming I still have my car, I may not even be using it so much as petrol is expensive this period. I guess that justifies the thief's decision to steal my car 👍

wise0ne:
I mean how can Inec issue a fake CTC of form EC8A, by giving PO's legal in eam the blurred downloaded Irev copy even though they were subpoenated by the PEPT?

😂😂😂

The real hilarious thing is some people are saying those evidence can't stand before the PEPT. INEC were subpoenaed to produce both documents. They couldn't produce the top copies and instead provided the IREV copies. Isn't that admitting the iREV is reliable when there are issues with the others?

Now, their reliable results has about 18,088 blurred and unreadable copies. In fact, over 39,000 results (which includes the 18,088 copies) are unaccessible. So the big question remains; where did INEC get their result from since they do not have the top copies of Form EC8A?? 🤷🏾‍♂️

Imagine cornering millions of voters results for nefarious reasons. Just look at the fraud in only 2 random states. If you wade in more, damn.

Guys, it's just a forfeiture 😁

Enice:
Livy is a big liar and is full of lies....INEC cannot refuse to give a petitioner any document so long as that document has been requested through the courts.

So, is this you confirming that INEC provided 'Livy' with all the documents they requested as soon as the subpoena was delivered 'so they won't be in contempt of the court' ?

Lotanna2:
The supreme court severally stated that manual or guidelines cannot be used to nullify elections esp when it is contrary to the electoral act.the electoral act backed by a fhc judgment clearly stated that inec can transmit as it likes

You'd do well to quote the Supreme Court judgement so I can peruse it just like you did in what you quoted, just like I did. We're not really going to consider a lower court in this instance.

Lotanna2:
Inec demonstrated clearly with rivers copy that what is different on the hardcopy is more authentic than the blurred copies and that blurriness can be from bad camera,posture,weather etc

Sorry, but this response is not related to what you quoted 🤔

Lotanna2:
Not true.in osun,the court preferred the original accreditation record from bvas rather than the copy from server.

That's for the Osun Court and the matter of the BVAS. The kernel here is quite different

Nonetheless, Section 89 of the Evidence Act states “Secondary evidence may be given of the existence, condition or content of a document when: (a) The original is shown or appears to be in the possession or power –
(i) of the person against whom the document is sought to be proved, or
(ii) of any person legally bound to produce it and such person does not produce it

This document is to be used against INEC and is in possession of INEC. And INEC did not provide it even with a subpoena, choosing to provide instead, that of the iREV alone. What's more important is that INEC certified it. So their actions and the admissibility of those Form EC8A is provided for by this Section.

Lotanna2:
Guidelines cannot be used to nullify elections but electoral act

Nice. Do you understand what Judicial precedence is? If you don't, read up on that, then read up on this judgement by the Supreme court in Faleke Vs INEC (2006)
https://www.opinionnigeria.com/faleke-v-inec2016-18-nwlr-pt-1543-at-61-an-examination-of-the-power-of-inec-to-declare-an-election-inconclusive-and-election-petition-tribunals-jurisdiction-by-oladele-kehinde-emmanuel/

Enice:
No sir, INEC gave Obi what he requested. Copies of IREV as it is displayed. INEC will be foolish to tamper with evidence.

It is clear you didn't follow the Elections Proceedings. You also missed the Press briefings where it was made clear that INEC is refusing to provide top copies as requested. I will take you to Page 3, Article IX on this document, since it also looks like you didn't read before passing judgement either.

Just dey play

Enice:
When INEC made those guidelines.

Well, there is a link to INEC's official website staring at you in the face on that post, but you still choose to suggest I forged it and also question the genuineness of the document.

You'll deny even your very existence to defend fraud. After all, a lie needs more lies to bury it.

Enice:
EC8As are originals, IREVs are photocopies.

Photocopies of what? Form EC8A right? So in a nutshell, the Form EC8As are what is supposed to be on the iREV just as your CV and Government ID is in your workplace. If there are differences between what is there and what is here, it is not a photocopy. It is a fake.

The courts do not use photocopies.

The courts do not use originals either. They just want certified true copies. If the original is not certified, it will be rejected. Even if it's a duplicate of a duplicated duplicate; when the issuer certifies them, they are good. INEC certified those documents, so that argument is dead.

Enice:
No! Those documents are copies made from IREV. They are not form EC8As. ..

Noted. So the documents on the iREV are what? 😁

You may want to take a look at this before you respond. Precisely, Page 4, Implementation Procedure, No. 1.
https://inecnigeria.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/Electronic_Transmission___Collation_Of_Result-5.pdf

Confidently spewing premium trash 😂

Shocker! Wasn't it APC/INEC lawyers saying iRev is not a collation system? INEC documents disagrees with them completely

So... INEC handed over 18000+ blurred copies (some of which were blank A4 papers) of Form EC8A as Certified True Copies of the result? They also could not provide the top copies of same form EC8A? Crazy Crazy Crazy 😂

Well, you didn't want Peter Obi to go to court either so your opinion doesn't really count in the court matter.

The only time you will have a problem with that address is if you love wasting time. It's a final address at the Tribunal, not a week-long dance party.😁

The speed people go use close their accounts there ehn 😁

Now for MUFC to unveil him with Rihanna's song 😁

Andre Onana has joined Manchester United on a contract running until June 2028, with the option of a further year, subject to international clearance.

The Cameroonian goalkeeper has kept 104 clean sheets in 255 club appearances.

He won three league titles and two KNVB Cups with Ajax before joining Inter in 2022.

Last season, he won the Coppa Italia and recorded the most clean sheets in the Champions League.

Andre Onana said:

“To join Manchester United is an incredible honour and I have worked hard all my life to get to this moment, overcoming many obstacles along the way. Walking out at Old Trafford to defend our goal and contribute to the team will be another amazing experience. This is the start of a new journey for me, with new teammates, and new ambitions to fight for.

“Manchester United has a long history of incredible goalkeepers, and I will now give everything to create my own legacy in the coming years. I am excited by the opportunity to work again with Erik ten Hag, and I can’t wait to play my part in the success I know he is determined to deliver at this great football club.”

John Murtough, Manchester United's football director, said:

“Andre was our top choice to become the new goalkeeper for Manchester United, with exactly the right profile of technical attributes and personality. Having achieved success throughout his career, we know that Andre will further add to the winning mentality we are building within our squad.

“He is already one of the world’s best goalkeepers and at the age of 27 we firmly believe that he can develop even further over the coming years.”

https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/transfer-news-man-utd-complete-signing-of-andre-onana-from-inter?

Onana had earlier shared a Goodbye message with Inter Milan as he announced his departure for Manchester.

As expected!

And Onana is on his way! #GGMU

The real problem be say who go separate these two corn n!ggas now when fight start 😁

I do not agree with price control just as I do not agree with Government interference in privatised companies providing public services. Investors should be given level playing ground to invest, public office holders must be nowhere near companies providing public services and the competition should be kept healthy.

There is this body, SERVICOM. They should be enough to handle any ill-doings by these companies, just like in cases like this. All these agencies like NERC and NNPCL, in my opinion, are just making things worse.

Weird

Perhaps we need to sell of our refineries to private corporations first.