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GodsMopol:
A general form/pattern and array of consistency, which translate to a designer(God)

Perfection means no deficiency and like we all know, every animal share like attribute , eg, the lion, goat and man has four limbs in common.

Do you still believe all these happened by accident, even the smallest mouse similarly has four(4) limbs. A pattern, it could have been six you know, even birds have two legs and two feather, more like four limbs(2 legs and the hand been replaced by the wings.

...humans, goats, rats etc have four limbs therefore there's perfection in design which proofs God? Like seriously?

GodsMopol:
A general form/pattern and array of consistency, which translate to a designer(God)

Can you be a little more elaborate please?

GodsMopol:
The fact I used the term presumption, don't mean I presumed, its a fact, but I used the term so that, readers won't say I am imposing my assertion on them.

Thanks anyway, it won't repeat itself

Welcome...but how does MR. NIGER D in living things translate to perfection and proof of God?

GodsMopol:
Perfection is a sign of design, not only that, when you can attribute a set of b, collectively pattern similar to all that which you are considering, then you presume there is a designer.

A common attribute of theory of design is the fact that, it shares the Popular Acronym popular referred to as MR NIGER D

which are

M - Movement( though limited in plants, but their stems and roots are known for constrained movements.

R - Respiration

N - Nutrition(Pholem and Xylem in plants)

I - Irritability

G - Growth

E - Excretion (Stomata and lenticels in plants)

R - Respiration ( Stomata and lenticels in plants)

D - We all know this one, the opposite of life.

So, using the above criteria, I can perfectly presume that there is a uniformity of all criteria listed above in virtually every plant and animal, so I go with the theory of design

1sharon, come and eat ooooo

I see no proof of anything here! Presumptions are no proof. Literally, to presume is to assume without proof.

Niflheim:
I have said it before and I will say it again!!!
The prophecies of my Lord and personal saviour(OTEMATUM), shall surely come to pass!!! For it was Otemtum who prophesied that one day, the word "pastor" will become synonymous with the word "NYASHMASTER"!!!

FULL STORY:

A Michigan pastor who was accused of sexual assault by a former parishioner and admitted that his hand might have slipped into her pants while anointing her with oil to cleanse her of sexual sins at her home will not face charges, a local prosecutor said Wednesday.

Justine Morden, 20, alleged in June that Pastor Mitch Olson of Grace Ministry Center sexually assaulted her during the unorthodox anointing nearly 10 months ago.

In a case review released Wednesday morning, Senior Assistant Prosecutor Paul Soderberg said Morden doesn't fall under any classes of victims as recognized under state law, Nicole Hayden of The Times Herald reports.

"The conduct of suspect Mitchell Olson directed toward [the] 19-year-old victim was morally reprehensible. The Grace Ministry Center head pastor's conduct appears to be highly questionably and not religious in nature. It also appears to have violated the standards of the church. However, based on the information ... this conduct despite being immoral is not illegal according to Michigan criminal law. For these reasons we are unable to prosecute this case," Soderberg said.

Morden, who was living alone at the time of the alleged assault, said she sought counsel from Olson about changing her life and he suggested she be anointed to cleanse her of her sins. He told her he didn't have anointing oil at the church during a meeting in July 2016 but would eventually make time to get her anointed. "Later on that night, around like 8 or 9, he texted me and asked what my address was," Morden told the Herald. "I gave him the address and didn't think anything of it since I trusted him. ... He got there and said, 'I have the anointing oil if you want to be anointed,' so I said 'OK.'"

A police report lodged with local authorities said:

Olson then said a prayer and placed oil on her head, Olson then did the same on (her) shoulders. Olson then asked if he could put the oil on her breasts (she) said yes and Olson put his hand down the front of (her) shirt making skin to skin contact with (her) breasts. Olson then put oil on (her) stomach/mid-section. Olson then asked he could put oil on (her) buttock, (she) responded yes. Olson then put his hand down the back of (her) pants and made skin to skin contact with (her) buttock cheeks. Olson then asked if he could put oil on (her) pubic area (front of pants), (she) responded yes. Olson then put his hand down the front of (her) pants and made skin to skin contact with (her) pubic region. Olson then touched (her) knees and ended with her feet.

Morden explained that it wasn't until she told her mother about the anointing session that she realized the anointing she received wasn't standard practice.

"When I explained it to my mom, she said it wasn't right," she told The Times Herald. "I believed it was what really had to be done, but he grabbed, groped my boobs." Reacting to the review of her case, Morden told The Times Herald that she was heartbroken.

"It's frustrating to know that it did happen but that Michigan law can't protect me," she said. "It's very frustrating. I think if Michigan law was different he would be prosecuted ... it's frustrating that he can continue to do to other women what he did to me ... I have learned through this experience that sexual assault is so minimized and that it's easier for people to brush it under the rug rather than take action."


The link:..............................................................http://www.christianpost.com/news/pastor-whose-hand-slipped-into-womans-pants-while-anointing-her-with-oil-wont-be-charged-197482/

This is ridiculous!!

More often than not, there is a negative correlation between intelligence and religiousity.

Kingluqman89:
No one created God
Below is a proof from the Gorious Quran Chapter 112:

1. Say: He is Allah (God), the One and Only
2. Allah, the Eternal, Absolute
3. He begetteth not, nor is He begotten
4. And there is none like unto Him.

What makes you think that God is male?

A wikipedia article refers to sleep as an altered state of consciousness, wow!

Perhaps for the purpose of this discourse, we should stick to definitions from a medical dictionary!

JackBizzle:
So what then is unconsciousness?

Ranchhoddas:
A person who is asleep is not at the tail end of the consciousness scale.
Ergo, he is not unconscious.

JackBizzle:
Yes. That could be the problem- the definition of unconscious.

GideonIdaboh:
Hello Nairalanders,

Already 3 weeks today, my house was burgled while I was fast asleep (most people say Na jazz) . To my utmost dismay, I woke up to realize that my newly bought smart TV of not more Dan 2weeks old was carted away by the unknown men along side my phones and some money.

I was told I could use the IMEI of one of the phones to track other items stolen but I don't just know how. I have reported to the NPF but I haven't heard anything from them yet. To the ICT gurus in the house, Pls is there anything I can do from my own part Pls?

Probably you were doped up.

hopefulLandlord:
I'm not a doctor but I'm almost sure there's a key difference between being asleep and being unconscious in that someone that's asleep can still respond to external stimuli like noise or even sudden change in brightness while an unconscious person can (read: should) not

You have a point there though. I believe there are different levels of unconsciousness and sleep falls somewhere between the extremes.

JackBizzle:
Can an unconscious person hallucinate. I believe that i have hallucinated while being unconscious for a surgery. However, a christian doctor here said that it was impossible.

So, can an unconscious person hallucinate? Or better can a person in a coma hallucinate?



Cc felixomor, analice, ecilana107, hahn. Hopefullandlord, butterflylion, 1sharon, spacetacular, deicide, dalaman et al

When one sleeps and is dreaming, that fellow can be said to be unconscious and hallucinating.

hopefulLandlord:
I seriously doubt that

there's a strategy to these things, there's a saying that you can cook a live frog by placing it in a Cold water and boiling it bit by bit till its cooked, the frog won't know its being cooked but if you put a live frog in hot water it'll quickly jump out

why? because the frog won't notice the increase in the water temperature as its being cooked

for example, look at people who defraud others while playing the Christian card? some Christian that's always arguing against atheistm here suddenly disappeared, few weeks later someone said he's looking for him as he defrauded him of 6Million naira, we then discovered that "Christian"'s number was not going through (all 3 different numbers) he had also packed out of his place of residence, let me repeat that this person was very popular here and spends a good portion of his time arguing against atheism and even gives prophesies, he also boasts of healing heart diseases and HIV, he also said he's raised someone from the dead before

try to imagine if this person would've succeeded in defrauding people if he came as an atheist

and before you counter that, answer this question "HOW MANY ATHEIST SCAMMERS DO YOU KNOW OF?"

all scammers play the religious card because under that clout all sorts of mayhem can be carries out

ever wonder why they call con artists "confidence artists"?

a demon is better off coming here as Christian than coming as atheist

any demon that's busy staying in an atheist is not a smart ones, demons (if it exists and Christianity is true) would be right there in the church

Holy Cow!!

The theory of evolution is currently the most comprehensive scientific explanation for biodiversity on earth.

shakyum12:
[color=#0000ff]lalasticlala come and see something ooo.

Africans and their stupidity.
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Critically, they may have a point.

mumumugu:
just wandering. if the two were on earth today,would they be campaigning to win more members or would they agree constructively , disagree and later agree to make one religion since they are both of God

Subjunctively, they wouldn't be as popular as they are now.
Their absence gives followers the benefit of the doubt and contributes to faith in them.