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 Islam › Re: Desika's Opinion on The Crucifixion Of Jesus by deSika(op): 2:58pm On Jun 24, 2013 |
truthman2012: These people are confused. Verse 34 of the quranic chapter you refer to says Jesus being born, dying and being raised is the truth they are doubting. If Allah had tried to clear their doubt and they are still doubting, it mean Allah himself cannot solve their problem.they are confused, but i think the right word would be blinded. because even when the truth is presented to them, they would either run away from the discussion or they enter into denial/twisting mode |
| Islam › Re: Desika's Opinion on The Crucifixion Of Jesus by deSika(op): 2:50pm On Jun 24, 2013 |
maclatunji: What makes you think the 'raising' in that verse has occured? You keep displaying your ignorance.so yu are now entering your your denial mode. when muslims say Jesus was not crucified but was RAISED unto God alive. what type of "raising" is that?. do you have different types of "raising alive" am waiting for your explanations, Mr. non ignorant. how many types of "raising alive" do you have |
| Islam › Re: Desika's Opinion on The Crucifixion Of Jesus by deSika(op): 1:02pm On Jun 24, 2013 |
maclatunji: Your conclusion is faulty. Jesus' coming back has nothing to do with Prophethood. It is well documented that he will live as a Muslim. He will have no new revelations or new laws to give. These are primary duties of Prophets which he will not perform.https://www.nairaland.com/1261672/mohamed-really-last-prophet |
| Islam › Re: Desika's Opinion on The Crucifixion Of Jesus by deSika(op): 12:58pm On Jun 24, 2013 |
maclatunji: You are confused, basilico is a more knowledgeable non-Muslim and does not suffer from your confusion. |
| Islam › Re: Desika's Opinion on The Crucifixion Of Jesus by deSika(op): 12:58pm On Jun 24, 2013 |
maclatunji: You are confused, basilico is a more knowledgeable non-Muslim and does not suffer from your confusion.as expected. No explanations. Just ad hominen. My question is simple. Why did Jesus not die before he was raised alive according to the verse above. Its either the speaker in that verse does not know that he would die before being raised(and as such can be said to be false prophet) or he is correct about his death before being raised up alive and such nullify the non crucifixion claim of Muhammad. 1 Like |
| Islam › Re: Desika's Opinion on The Crucifixion Of Jesus by deSika(op): 9:57am On Jun 24, 2013 |
maclatunji: I was born, I will die and I like anybody else will be raised like every other creature on the day of judgement. Does this make me divine? Of course not.chief, i wasnt asking about divinity. why did Jesus get raised before his death in contrast to what the verse prescribed take note it says raised alive. which is what you people saay happened to Jesus but you say he didnt die. so hw did he get raised before dieing. abi does he not know what he is saying. |
| Islam › Re: Desika's Opinion on The Crucifixion Of Jesus by deSika(op): 9:52am On Jun 24, 2013 |
basilico: Muhammad corrected the written corrupted scrolls by declaring that Jesus was not crucified, did not die but ascended to heaven. Remember the prophet met Jesus when he flew the mythical horse burraq to al aqsa and ascended to all the 7 heavens. Jesus wil come back to fight the dajjal, break the cross (maybe you now understand why muslims hate the cross)... then i think He wil die. then. I am sure muslims here wil explain better.friend how do you explain this Quran 19:33 peace on me the day [1] i was born, and [2] the day i die, and the day [3] i shall be raised alive. he was supposed to die before being raised up. so why the shortcut. he jumped dieing and was now raised. something is not right, cant yu see it |
| Islam › Desika's Opinion on The Crucifixion Of Jesus by deSika(op): 11:18pm On Jun 23, 2013 |
i hear muslims with the claim that Jesus did not die on the cross. but recently i came across a verse in the quran which points otherwise. now i would ask nl muslims to ponder on this verse of the quran and see that it contradicts the one that says they killed him not. Quran 19:33 peace on me the day i was born, and the day i die, and the day i shall be raised alive. what is Jesus saying here 1. the day he was born 2. the day he will die 3, the day he shall be raised its clear that the above follows chronologically. now if he will die before he is raised, why do muslims still continue with the notion that Jesus did not die. is the person speaking above said to be lieing about the second point. final word: the abve clearly teaches that Jesus will die before he will be raised. this only further points to the contradictions in the quran |
| Islam › Re: Muslims In Al-jannah by deSika(m): 9:34pm On Jun 23, 2013 |
are you for real. no jihad fighters in paradise. |
| Phones › Re: Plz Help Me.how Do I Subscribe To A Bb Plan On A New Tecno N7 by deSika(m): 2:37pm On Jun 23, 2013 |
physise: sentgracias 1 Like |
| Phones › Re: Plz Help Me.how Do I Subscribe To A Bb Plan On A New Tecno N7 by deSika(m): 1:43pm On Jun 23, 2013 |
pls dont forget me o. i hope i didnt come late. thank you |
| Phones › Re: Plz Help Me.how Do I Subscribe To A Bb Plan On A New Tecno N7 by deSika(m): 12:30pm On Jun 23, 2013 |
Oga abeg send me the mtn info too. desika61@gmail.com. Thank u |
| Christianity Etc › Re: When Christ Returns There Will Be Racial Segregation On Earth by deSika(m): 11:12am On Jun 22, 2013 |
All i have to say is this ¤¤. You should know the symbolical interpretation. Repent for the kingdom of God is at hand. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Preexist His Birth - Honeychild, Bookmark And Ijawkid Let's Discuss by deSika(m): 8:44am On Jun 22, 2013 |
The person who says frosbel is not a false prophet is only deceiving himself. There is a thin line between frosbel and atheism 3 Likes |
| Islam › Re: Salvation In Islam by deSika(m): 8:26am On Jun 22, 2013 |
Seriously so Muhammad heard footsteps in paradise of someone still alive on earth. Wetin person no go hear. Na wa. Person neva die e don enta paradise. |
| Islam › Re: Salvation In Islam by deSika(m): 11:18pm On Jun 20, 2013 |
Maybe u need to check the definition of humility. And then contrast it with assurance that one gets from certain knowledge. The lack of assurance does not equal humility. But dont worry i already know u to be self delusionist. Am not sure that my boss will increase my salary tomoro does not translate to am humble. Muhamad is the prophet of an angel. Almost all his so called revelations were from an angel. An angel of darkness at that. Do u want proof |
| Christianity Etc › Re: 10 Questions For Christians by deSika(m): 11:01pm On Jun 20, 2013 |
@ayenny welcome back from your research. So this was all you were able to gather. Ehyah kpele your first point answers all your rubbish. The spirit of God. Yet u wud come out and argue with wat u ursef wrote. Whats the meaning of spirit of God if not that its Gods spirit. Sometimes i wonda wheda u are in primary school. Even a primary school pupil wil not reason like this. If i ask u where the bible calls that same spirit of God an angel you would start biting your tongue. U need to work on your brain seriously. ayenny02: You have problem, so you expect gabriel to say "I gabriel will come upon you" rubbishno, i expect Gabriel to say "i Desika will come upon u" olodo. What about him saying "i holyspirit will come upon u" keep fooling yoursef |
| Islam › Re: Salvation In Islam by deSika(m): 10:20pm On Jun 20, 2013 |
RoyPCain: @desika and cleanvessel and those who hold theirview: InshaAllah all muslims who wish to enter Paradise will, except those who intentionally the Mercy of Allah by being 'secret disbelievers' [hypocrites].did i not say it. You would not deal with the substance of d discussion. Why Muhamad is not sure of his eternal destiny. By the way i dnt know why you think Muhammad is a prophet of God, the worst u cud say is that he is the prophet of an angel. |
| Islam › Re: How Muslims Can Teach Non-Muslims About Islam by deSika(op): 10:07pm On Jun 20, 2013 |
Much thanks to bro Alexis who dug out this hadith. God bless you bro 2 Likes |
| Islam › Re: How Muslims Can Teach Non-Muslims About Islam by deSika(op): 9:56pm On Jun 20, 2013 |
lanrexlan: *yawns and unfollow the thread*am just glad for the opportunity to show u the truth. When u see the truth, accept it. Dont ignore it shalom aleichem 2 Likes |
| Islam › Re: How Muslims Can Teach Non-Muslims About Islam by deSika(op): 9:51pm On Jun 20, 2013 |
lanrexlan: *yawns and unfollow the thread*dats what they do when they see the truth. Run away. Its nice to see that you cant say anything against what i said. Its nice to see that you have seen the truth. Whats left is for you to do the reasoning by yourself and then come out of your falsehood deSika says ....WELCOME TO THE WORLD OF TRUTH 2 Likes |
| Islam › Re: Salvation In Islam by deSika(m): 6:21pm On Jun 20, 2013 |
RoyPCain: @cleanvessel; No one, including the one [SA] God had bestowed His Mercy upon so much so that his name is attached to the Name of Allah [Muhammadanr rRasulullah] should be arrogant and say "I am enough all by myself", which is what you are doing in a way of deriding the one who is not less than the Jesus in the Presence of the Creator.no one is arguing am enough all by myself. they are only asking why Muhammad is not sure of his eternal destiny. and as usual i dont expect you to deal head on with it. RoyPCain: 066:008 Khanit may be that your lord will remit your sins even after sincere repentance. thats too bad RoyPCain: Prophet Muhammad () said: “All of my ummah will enter Paradise except those who refuse.” When asked: “O Messenger of Allah, who would refuse?” He () said: “Whoever obeys me will enter Paradise and whoever disobeys me has refused.” [Al-Bukhaari, 7280only ten persons, what about the rest RoyPCain: Allah's Messenger ﷺ said:unless Allah bestows mercy uhm, did Allah eventually bestow mercy. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "Firstborn" Does It Mean First Created? Jehovah's Witness! by deSika(m): 5:35pm On Jun 20, 2013 |
truthislight, you ignored the truth in my thread, so continue inyour delusion. u could not debate with the truth when you saw it, yet you wont accept it. good for you. i have played my part |
| Islam › Re: How Muslims Can Teach Non-Muslims About Islam by deSika(op): 4:13pm On Jun 20, 2013 |
NA WA lanrexlan: Where and when will people experience paradise? On earth or on the day of Judgement?will everybody on jugdement day experience your paradise. is it everybody that will go to paradise from after the judgement. if some will go to hell, are you saying they will experience paradise on judgement day then before going to hell. by the way, wyou shoulld be the one answering your question. where will judgement day take place. in earth or in paradise. if in paradise will those ones going to hell go first to paradise for judgement before going to hell. lanrexlan: Don't play blind game here,I explained how wine is bad on earth,go back and read.my friend this is what you gave as the qurans explanation for not taking wine lanrexlan: It is mentioned in the glorious Quran in surah Al-Maidah 5;90-''O you who believe! Intoxicants and gambling,Al-Anzab(animals slaughtered to stone idols)and arrows for seeking luck or decision [size=16pt] are abominations of shaitan's handiwork [/size]because they are of satans handiwork now check out Lanrexlans explanation lanrexlan: Allah knows if you drink wine on earth, it will surely creates enmity among yourselves and make you forget performing your duties to Allahu say because it will create enmity and forgetting of duties. the qurans explanations or yours which one should i take. if the quran says its satans handiwork, then what is satans handiwork doing in paradise. is satan a co tenant in your paradise. or does he have a contract of supplying his handiwork wines there. uhm lanrexlan: Your question is a silly one,ask yourself if it's possible to steal,commit adultery on the day of Judgement? That will answer your question.are you the one asking me this question. if someone cannot steal on judgement day, then why can someone have picture (shirk) on judgement day. guy see, i know in your mind, you would be saying, this desika boy just wants to argue his head out. but trust me, am actually giving you an opportunity to do the explanations rather than just coming here to post what i think. if having picture is wrong, then why can it be done on judgement day. it only means that if something that is as bad as having picture is done on judgement day, then other things that are equally bad can also be done on judgement day. do you get it. if nothing can be done on judgement day, then there should be nothing done on judgement day including having picture. now if having picture is bad, then it should not be done at all, whether on judgement day, in heaven, or on earth. what is bad is bad. nothing can stop a bad thing from being bad. in short since paradise is the perfect definition of good, and is a place where everything in it should be good, then it means that 1. no bad thing should be able to enter into it, that includes wines which have been labeled satanic before, that incudes "having picture" which have been labeled shirk (highest sin so far) see but if such a satanic handiwork is found in your paradise, its a clear indication that your paradise is not perfect afterall. see listen. do a little reasoning thats just what am asking you to do. lanrexlan: I don't give irrelevant answers,Is it possible to perform worship on the day of Judgement? Answer it yourselfnow the problem is if shirk is an act of worship. an answer to the question "is having picture a shirk or not" is now an irrelevant answer uhn. just because you dont want to admit a lie. but dont worry you have already answered it here lanrexlan: Having a picture of Allah in one's mind isn't allowed in islam. [size=15pt]It's shirk,[/size]and here lanrexlan: What I am trying to explain is that there's no way you have a picture of Allah in your mind without giving the resemblance to one His creature and this will go against tawheeduhm uhm, if having picture is shirk, then i see no reason why shirk should be committed on judgement day. i also see no reason why Allah himself should be appearing to people commiting shirk, except if ofcourse to him, shirk is not a sin. lanrexlan: Believers will be eager to see Allah on the day of Judgement, they will be thinking how Allah looks like on the day of Judgement, the picture they can think of on the day of Judgement,Allah(swt)will appear to them.so if they think Allah as a man, Allah would appear to them as a man. hahaha. they will be thinking, yet it is not permissible for you to think how Allah looks, yet you and them have not seen Allah before. is the lies not so obvious to you by now. they would be committing shirk out of eagerness to see Allah. this is the truth, you are refusing to say. [size=15pt] since there's no way you have a picture of Allah in your mind without giving the resemblance to one His creature and this will go against tawheed, then these set of muslims who would be having a picture yet have not seen Allah before will be giving a resemblance to one of his creatures and as such go against tawheed. [/size] if they go against the tawheed,and yet Allah still appears to them. uhm, then Allah really loves muslims who go against the tawheed. he must love shirk too. if shirk is a sin, then Allah must also love sin. Lanrexlan is this the Allah that you are serving. an Allah who appears to muslims who commit shirk, a sinfull act. lanrexlan: The hadith I misquoted for that of alexis says Allah will come to them IN ANOTHER SHAPE TO THE ONE THEY SAW FIRST.Allah knows best what will happen on the day of Judgement,to Him belongs all the keys of unseen.my friend, you are doing more damage o, so your Allah can change appearance from one shape to another. thats demonic my friend 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: For Frosbel, Ijawkid And Other Non Trinitarians by deSika(op): 2:13pm On Jun 20, 2013 |
ijawkid: Who was sent to the chaldeans and the babylonians??......who was sent to Babylon. Cyrus also take note, the messiah was sent to set the captives free i answeredd yours, now answer mine. show where Cyrus said a single word in those verses. who has been talking all along. isaiah 48:16 Come you near to me, hear you this; from the beginning I have not spoken in secret; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord Yahweh has sent me, and his Spirit. has Cyrus been speaking from which beginning. "Come you near to me". Who was telling which people to come near to him by the time you are done answering, then pls check isaiah 42 and 61 abi, hosea 1:7, zech 2: 10,11, malachi 3:1 especially zechariah 2: 8,10,11 |
| Christianity Etc › Re: For Frosbel, Ijawkid And Other Non Trinitarians by deSika(op): 2:03pm On Jun 20, 2013 |
sure way: Forget it...l'm not sound biblically but at least with my little knowledge of the scripture.l've concluded that anytin frosbel et al(False teachers) r working4the devil perhabs lgnorantly..we will keep showing them the truth whilst praying for them bro |
| Christianity Etc › Re: For Frosbel, Ijawkid And Other Non Trinitarians by deSika(op): 2:01pm On Jun 20, 2013 |
truthislight: Actually, they are useless as used by you, that is why it is useless to waste our bandwidth.its really nice to see that you cant argue with the truth. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: For Frosbel, Ijawkid And Other Non Trinitarians by deSika(op): 2:00pm On Jun 20, 2013 |
truthislight: All those your long post what is it all about ?if you cant understand it. then your case is really serious. settle down and read it again. you would definitely see why christians say there is a more than person about God, and you would really see the identity of the people. peace |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "Firstborn" Does It Mean First Created? Jehovah's Witness! by deSika(m): 2:37pm On Jun 19, 2013 |
ijawkid: Oya suit yourself......at least we know who the one GOD is....success in your exam. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "Firstborn" Does It Mean First Created? Jehovah's Witness! by deSika(m): 1:46pm On Jun 19, 2013 |
ijawkid: Foolishness at its peak...really pathetic so the verses from acts 5: 3,4,and the others dont mean anything to you. Ok |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "Firstborn" Does It Mean First Created? Jehovah's Witness! by deSika(m): 1:34pm On Jun 19, 2013 |
ijawkid: Foolishness at its peak...i have answered your question. JESUS IS NOT THE FATHER. deception is when you say "in hebrew there is no capital letter for god" yet in nwt capital letter God is used in isaiah 9:6. Falsehood is when the bible says he shall be called mighty God, yet someone says no i wont call him mighty God. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "Firstborn" Does It Mean First Created? Jehovah's Witness! by deSika(m): 1:04pm On Jun 19, 2013 |
ijawkid: You are just a naughty fellow......the one God is the father in 1 cor 8:6 the one God is the Son in Ezekiel 1:24-28, isaiah 45:5 to 48:16, Zechariah 2: 8,10,11 and others the one God is the holyspirit in acts Acts 5:3,4 the one God is to be worshipped, yet the son is worshipped the one God is the sole creator, yet the son creates the one God is the mighty god in isaiah 10:21 yet the son is the mighty God in Isaiah 9:6 the one God is one lord, yet the son is the one lord the one God is the first and the last, yet the son is the first and the last the one God is engrained in 3 persons. if God is omniprescence and yet man is not omnipresence, why would you think an omnipresent God MUST be singular just as a non omnipresent man is singular. GOD IS BIGGER THAN WHAT YOU THINK. HIS BEING IS MUCH MORE THAN THE INTELLIGENCE OF MAN CAN TAKE 1 Like |
