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mathy001:
All these are nothing but mere promises! What have Igbos ever done to make anyone believe in their promises?

The same Igbos that came Lagos is no man's land because their people "developed" it! Why won't you also claim Urhoboland was developed by Igbos as no man's land too?

Every agitation starts with an idea or a grievance. It also always start from a point source which later spread like fuel. We are in the level of agitation, let everybody who is discontented about the kind of country we are in begin to make noise. If you do not like the way the country been run, make your voice count. That is agitation. That is why they always say 'lovers of freedom'. This is because without you knowing it, people are not free in this country to do what they need to do. Just yesterday, the federal govt revoked license for three south south companies to own an OPL. Is that one freedom to invest?

Do you really think the lagos governor cares about the statement made by igbos that it is a no man's land? The man that got 320 billion naira as IGR is not concerned about what you or I say about his state except he is jobless. So, as a person, this should not be your worry because you know that you are making your money through taxes but they cannot say they want to be the governor of urhobo state. They will not attempt it, so why are you bothered about these things when the main income is being consumed by you.

7lives:
You already know he will loose in Biafra and you still want to take him there, it is indeed a wicked world.

What is he going to lose? You have not mentioned a thing.

mathy001:
I'll tell you.

In Nigeria, we have three majority tribes that checkmate each other's excesses.

In Biafra, we'd have just the Igbo and be at their mercy! We can never dream of presidency or national status.

You may say otherwise but that is just talk! Let's face reality! What proof do we have that Igbos will be any better than Hausa in Biafra?

I prefer the devil we know to the angel we don't!

The truth remains that you are scared and in this country, you love playing the little one watching the big boys fight. When the fight comes to you, you will need to call your friends to join you in the battle field which might not always work out well for you because your friends have one or two beef with you.

I believe you say you are urhobo and from what is known in this country, you do not have a fair face in the nation's decision making regarding your tribe. You only depend on the portion that you will get when the south south is called upon. I hope you know this not a fair stand from your tribe because you all need to be heard and when you talk, people will able to listen. Urhobo people need a nationalistic face and Biafra will give you that.

If we come to the worst case scenario, i.e what they say we want your oil. How do you feel when 19 states who do not care about you are receiving more than your tribe receives. You might say delta state receives one of the largest allocations in the country, but what is the share of urhobo people and what is the share of zamfara people in your national cake? igbos are bringing forward, 5 states and a population of 30 million to eat with you, of which they too have oil in their backyard. which is better? A northerner who doesnt even know there is a tribe called urhobo or a tribe who still cherish lives and property and have not in any time taken what is yours.

Urhobos will be richer in biafra, I mean thrice richer than their present wealth in this country. More people will have access to the wealth of its people than what is obtainable in this country.

You have the opportunity to fight for resource control before you join. Isn't that all you want all these years, fighting and crying?

Urhobos do not stand a chance based on ethnic nationality to head this country nigeria, but you have every opportunity to head biafra when you combine forces with other ethnic groups to oust the igbos from the presidency. You know its an easier fight there and you will not deny it. Igbos do not really fight for these positions and they are business minded to chase it most times that is why the east have the lowest voters when it comes to senatorial elections because they simply do not care. If you even look at the presidency, they just dont vote because they do not see it as a success.

ekefre4:
Biafra's own will be worse. I mean these are the guys that even started renaming parts of my State even before the war was over...you wanna trust those people?

In war, measures are taken so that the enemy will not have foothold of the place. Where do you come from, maybe I will have a clearer picture of what you are talking about?

BLACKdagger:
Dont mind develpeast ... he is a daft person thinking he is wise.

Kids who dnt knw wat caused the war will always talk trash.

That is why I really do not engage in any argument in this website but engage in a better igbo website where everyone is not trying to be smarter than the next person.

He misquoted me and you jumped on the opportunity to insult me. You just messed up. You are my brother, so I wont insult you.

Blackdagger, I bet it, if I am not older than you, I must be atleast 5-10 years older. The war you are shouting about, did you partake in the war. Did you run for your life? You were told stories but you did not experience a thing. The best memory you have is from youtube video and you call me a kid?

If you are remotely close to where I am, I know you will not be saying these things.

BLACKdagger:
Dont mind develpeast ... he is a daft person thinking he is wise.

Kids who dnt knw wat caused the war will always talk trash.

That is why I really do not engage in any argument in this website but engage in a better igbo website where everyone is not trying to be smarter than the next person.

He misquoted me and you jumped on the opportunity to insult me. You just messed up. You are my brother, so I wont insult you.

BLACKdagger:
Heheheheheh... he just read my diffucult truth

Well say what ever....
Emotion is part of wht makes us human.
... what i do is dispense truth.. dnt care abt ur feling s hhehhehe

Seriously? Your difficult truth? what did you say up there that makes sense?

kingzizzy:
Who told you that the war was not necessary? Over 50,000 Igbos slaughtered in the North, over 300 Igbo officers murdered, the Aburi agreement broken. If it were you, what more will happen before you stand up.and say enough is enough?

Did you read what i wrote or you just read what your mind told you? When did i say the war was not necessary?

BLACKdagger:
I think ur biggest problem is COMPREHENSION.
If u can conquer this u ahve conquered more than half of ur problems in life.

Last time i checked i neva said "we are perfect"
Mr i just pointed out where i think he is wrong.

Abeg go and sit for corner joor

This is one of the emotional ones.

kingzizzy:
I dont know if Reno actually wrote this, too many fake news around.

But if Reno wrote this, I want him to know this. Only free people achieve their destiny. A people under bondage cannot achieve their destiny. We Igbos have been under one form of bondage since 1914 when we were conscripted into an unholy British colonial enterprise called Nigeria. That bondage was shed in 1960 for another bondage called 'Northern controlled Nigeria' which stands to this day.

But to be fair to us Igbos, while many others accepted to be slaves of the north, we Igbos refused and fought a war to be free. It may not have worked out but it is far better for one to strive for freedom than to accept slavery out of cowardice.

At this point again time, we Igbos remain the most visible face of self determination in Nigeria. So Reno, its not about achieving ones destiny, no one can do that while in Nigeria, it is about those who strive to be free so that they can achieve their destiny

Freedom? We lost because we fought a war of three years which was necessary. We were always at an advantage before the war but we later lost the advantage. The other tribe capitalized on it and since then we dropped to third and now with the fear of losing the third position. Igbos could have easily dominated this country because other tribes are too comfortable where they are and it is only the igbos that are not comfortable wherever they are born. they tend to move and search for things. it is just that this movement is not organised and we have not achieved a collective goal because we believe we can achieve it on our own.

vantage001:
Reno is right on the money here.
When it comes to individual intelligence, we take the cake in this country. Our group intelligence though need a lot of work.
We need to shed the old pre-colonial individualism and forge a common national path where the main objective is the well-being of the majority. We need to be less selfish and put the need of the majority as the most important. We need to start developing a pan-igbo developmental outlook under a single igbo umbrella.
Until we reform, we will keep playing at the level of our intellectual inferiors or even losing to them, instead of rising above them by fulfilling our potential.
Right now, we are pushing far below our weight. Our collective weight is far far less than the sum of our individual weights right now..

You have a very strong point. The igbos of nowadays have stayed so much outside their shores and with people who do not have thesame value system as our people. It has done so much in reducing our strength. Individualism is an inherent gift of an igbo man but he needs to join hands with others igbos and push for a particular developmental stride.

Nnamdi Kanu brought out this force, though it is towards secession. It is the clarion call for the igbo leaders to key into the people knowing fully well they are very intelligent and will have to make use of their individual intelligence to develop the land.

BLACKdagger:
Which truth u talking about?..
Most of things he said there are crap.?

Eg.
Saying igbos dont work with who they dont like.
Isnt that a FAT LIE?.
when business is involved igbos threw every fight and grudge behind.

Do you really think igbos are perfect? In everything we do, do you think we are perfect? I don't like raising these points but if someone faults you, it is better to think about it before responding. We are very reactionary.

Amberon:
The sole reason why we will never be part of Biafra is because of the arrogance of your people.

Imagine someone saying 60% of SS are igbos. What sort of delusion is that? In delta state alone urhobos account for over 55% of the population. How many indigenous igbos are in Cross River, Akwa ibom, Bayelsa and Edo states? When we tell them we're not for Biafra they say there's nothing like SS, but then they turn around and say SS is Biafra.

Why are your people forcing a referendum on us? Did we ask for one? Did Wales take part in the Scottish referendum? All the various tribes of the SS have spoken in one voice that we are against Biafra but all you people do is insult us for not aligning with Biafra.

The reasonable thing Igbo's could have done was to send prominent people who would try to convince us on the pros of joining Biafra but instead they arrogantly included us in their maps and told us to our faces that we're biafrans whether or not we like it. That alone dashed all hopes of SS joining Biafra.

Also, we stand to gain absolutely nothing in Biafra. We have all it takes to survive and prosper in our Niger Delta Republic.

When you argue with people online, you should always know that argument breeds emotional outburst whereby 60% of what will be said will be emotional and not logical.

I understand your pains because it makes you feel that igbos are inflating numbers of their people in the south south. But in truth, this should not be the reason why you will not join biafra. If that is your fear, in Biafra, there will not be anything like south south but people known according to tribe. Urhobo tribe will have a nationalistic face and not one of the tribe in big delta.

A biafra will give you an opportunity to sign a document in the presence of AU and the UN to state categorically what you need from the new country based on agreement from stakeholders. Even if its not been touted in the public, everyone knows that no one stupid and everybody will have to come into an agreement before anyone joins the country.

I also fault my people of not coming formerly to engage in profitable conversation with you but I believe that the shout for Biafra is a launching pad for everyone who seek to leave this country to launch his own.

Igbos are a people who voice their minds without even mincing it, many a times, it comes from the wrong source but does not mean they are arrogant. They most say things the way they see it and are not apologetic about it. They will not kill you or forcefully take what is yours, they do not have the mindset.

bantudra:
you people are saying nigerians are unity beggars...but look who is begging now from deltans......

we are deltans....stop trying to treat us like fools.....we are the true owners of nigeria...not hausa,not yorubas or you.....

Stop being emotional about this and try as much as possible to be logical. Do you like the status quo the way it is or you want something to change in the country.

Do you want tlo throw away an opportunity to have a say about your existence and economic gains or you still want to exist unnoticed.

If you are deep thinker and you reason things logically, please what do you gain in Nigeria that you will lose in Biafra?

From what you posted, you are saying it failed in akwa ibom state right?

ekefre4:

See these ones oo. Did they tell you they want to be part of Biafra? You guys just sat down drew your map and included them without their consent and now you're coming to talk trash here. FYI they ain't interested so you can redraw your stupid map. Una ikot

What will you lose in Biafra that you have not already lost in Nigeria.

I need a southerner who is not emotional to engage me in an argument on why they should or shouldn't be part of Biafra.

I believe even if the status quo will be the same, there are still going to gain more from a biafra than Nigeria.

These boys parading themselves as ipob are goats, why will they be acting stupid because of the struggle?

This should not be the gathering of haters because it will haunt you when you need people to love you.

The southerners and to a large extent should be grateful to the igbo tribe. They have tried in keeping the minorities safe in the north especially in Kano. They took them as their own people, that is why the hausa considers them ibo or in their own terms nyamiri. The elite might be able to differentiate the minorities of the south south from the igbos but the illiterates and the fanatics doesn't.
A case in point was in 2012 when the ogoja people were been attacked around badawa axis of kano state, the ogojas and efiks had to run to sabon gari for succor. Why? the hausa cannot attack sabon gari anymore because the igbos have beefed security there for them.

Go to sabon gari today, everyone feel safe there because of the presence of the igbos in that area and how they shield others from attack. the other tribes do not know but igbos spend billions on weapons to be able to counter any attack from outsiders.

Can you any southerner stay in Jakara, sharrifai, kurumi, kumbotso, etc? these places are still in the capital but they cannot stay there.

You may want to hate on the igbos all you want but you have not pinpointed anywhere in history where the igbos have been in your wrong side but there has been times where igbos have always been in your receiving end. The igbos just carry the cross for the southerners.

If you are close to these northerners, you will know that they care less about what the avengers are doing in the south. they use the opportunity to increase fuel price in the north because they import it via niger republic at a cheaper rate but sell at a higher price. It is not what I was told but what i know.

If biafra knocks, I advise you to use the opportunity to fight for yourself because the south will be smaller and they might even use it against the south. a lower voice to shout marginalisation.

The igbos that commented on this thread are just kids with little or no responsibility. Dragging more than 40 million people to the gutters because they want them to follow us to achieve biafra. These guys should limit their response on thread about south south people in biafra. I have lived my life in almost all geopolitical zones and it is only those who have really dealt with other tribes that can really talk about the south south joining the struggle or not.

I care less if you join or not, but it should be a rallying point for you to have your say in this country because these men in the north where i am presently are consolidating on their opportunity in power. It is less evident now, until someone else becomes president from the north, that is when you will all understand what i am trying to say.

PS: I work closely with the political class in the north (based on technical issues) and I know what I am saying. No jokes.

GrandGarcon:
You see? How can somebody without a brain even play with lego blocks? I will say it again, you reason like a foetus. After you will say you are being insulted, while I am telling you the truth.

You started with having so much points to throw in but you tarried towards insulting a person with opposing view. what kind of mind do you have sef?

Nkem4040:
Shattap. Your Afonjas short-sighted decision to elect Buhari is affecting everyone including Igbos. So they have a say to call you out for your BS. Afonjas are singlehandedly responsible for dragging this country backwards

this is the reason my dad once said, the excessive mixing of the igbos with other ethnic groups will in no time make them behave like them. Igbos are not used to making noise but the set of igbos we have now, chineke mekwe madu ebele.

vikkytan49:
Klaus is the strongest if he channel his both inner strengths, if my memory serves me right the last time he uses it was in season 1 to teach Marcel and his armies lesson, oh yes this latest episode too, the reason why he doesn't uses it is because he loses control, yes too much range makes him lose control. Mikael and klaus are even really.
It is only fair that a well calm Elijah should should be able to hold his own against a vampire Klaus and i only remember Elijah winning once so which other occasions are you talking about?
Klaus has more wins when it comes to these two..
But then again the way strengths works in both tvd & TO doesn't make sense..

A vampire klaus stands no chance against elijah. elijah has the capacity of 100 against 1 from what he said in season 1. vampire klaus stands no chance against a huge number like what was seen in the first season until he switched to his hybrid form. You can see that tyler was even trying to fight him even in his hybrid form. elijah is like an executioner, he is very good at fighting.

The makeup artist needs deliverance.

laudate:
Stop contradicting yourself. If the South-East is not less prosperous than other parts of Nigeria, then they should not complain about marginalisation. It is only less prosperous, less endowed, and less viable communities that should complain about marginalisation.

if you had followed my statement with clear mind, then you should understand what i am driving at. Better opportunities in that sense means that there are less competition in those places when compared to their present location.

laudate:
You don't get the point, do you? If your south-eastern states are so viable and prosperous, then why do most of your citizens migrate to other parts of Nigeria? If they have so much economic clout, and they have dominated the commercial landscape, then your people should not be crying about being marginalised. Simple!

The southeast is not less prosperous as their other geopolitical zones. The southeastern people are a people that are opportunistic in nature. They look for opportunity and if they find one, they make good use of it. Do you think the people living in the east are poor or wretched? they are not. there are quite a number of millionaires and billionaires in the east as we speak but when you look at it well, when the number of people doing your line of trade have been saturated, then there is a need to move. the movement did not start today, the movement started in the 80s. When the number of traders filled up the onitsha, owerri and aba markets, they started moving out. Most of these decisions were made during yearly end of the year meeting with brothers and kinsmen. they discuss about the places they have been and the opportunities there in, seeing that there might be better opportunities, the ones that think they are not making much profits follow their brother to the location while they take with them their boys who they later make owners of their businesses. the pattern continues to grow and grow until they filled up the different places you see now. That is the number of reason if you are an igbo man, they ask you if you have joined an 'otu', that is a group. so that you wont be lost about the happenings in the particular place you are staying.

the igbos are marginalised because the facilities needed to expand their economic base are not present. they know they can achieve more if the amenities are present in the east but since they are not present and these amenities are present in other parts of the country, then they must feel marginalised. Because you can drink gari doesnt mean if there is an opportunity to eat fried rice, you will not eat it. The system has marginalised igbos because they are been strangled by the way the government runs it activity.

caracas:
Who told u they have more richer ppl
Pls say what you know cos the North is the poorest region in the country .

The north has the richest people in the country and I know what i am saying.

laudate:
Hehehehe...you lot like deceiving yourselves sha. The Chinese you mentioned, have you visited their country? Their cities are some of the most developed in the world, with great infrastructure & technically skilled people. Same goes for several Asian countries like Singapore, Indonesia etc. They do not go to other countries to denigrate their hosts, or claim a non-existent prowess or flaunt a superiority that they do not possess, which your guys are fond of doing.

Those Chinese and Asians do not seek salvation or economic prosperity elsewhere, without developing their own communities first. Unlike your kinsmen.

As for that claim you made about being "still the most educated....So the skilled jobs in your place we take some slice off it and still have our jobs back home to ourselves." I had to laugh out loud. Did you conduct a survey before you arrived at this conclusion? If you have taken the skilled jobs at home and elsewhere, why do your people still cry about marginalisation?

Mr, where have you been in this country and I do not want to mention other countries, okay. Just name it. You cannot compare the economic impact the igbos have in this country based on number of people with other ethnic group. If you come to the north, apart from the indigenous hausas in the communities, name one other ethnic group that has any impact on their economy than the igbos. Is it in Kano? do you know that airport road, nomansland, sabon gari, some parts of badawa layout in kano are all dominated by igbos and check the level of businesses done in those areas, then you know what the igbos are doing there. Do you know that igbos compete favourably with the yorubas even in their own domain? Is it Lagos, Ibadan, sarki, akure, etc? Brother, apart from companies which they shared between themselves and gained so much economic advantage in the 70's, the yoruba have not in any dominated economic activities in any part of the country apart from their homelands.

It is blissful when you do not believe in these things, atleast you wont be conscious of it everyday. The devil loves it this way because when he takes from you, you cannot protest because you do not believe that you are been stolen from.

Do you think these people are all stupid and backward at thesame time for this thing to be staged?

did anyone of you watch the video when the coffin nearly fell all of them but they were saved by the onlookers?

If you say spiritism doesnt exist because he did not happen the way your limited brain can access it, then you should also not believe that there is another planet apart from the one we live in since they do not contain humans.

If you find the post offensive, then no one can help you in logical reasoning anymore. This man here explained it the simplest way he could and he is very correct.

GeneralOjukwu:
Dumb "prediction"

Everyone knows a 74 year old (Football age) man with a job as stressful as being a President should watch his health.

Check Obama's pix before he started his 1st term and when he ended the 2nd

Pastors scamming sheep since 1898

Let me explain things to you, this man of God might be predicting and not seeing but don't ever downplay the power of God's vision to men. The way he explained the whole scenario shows that he saw something and he is not predicting anything. Is this story not almost thesame as what is happening in aso villa today? are the northern elites not forcing him to stay behind and rule the country with the doctors flying into the country to fight for his health?

i know there are many false prophets in our time but when some people say things, objectively relate it with the present happenings before you castigate them or throw their words in the wind.

Mugabe is almost 95 years old and when he was even 80, he was not facing much health issues like buhari why didnt you say anything about him. you only call on obama. Obama spent 8 years ruling his country, do you think eight years is eight days? are the same way you were eight years ago? so much has changed about you. the only time there seem to minimal change in a man physique or stature is in his prime when the blood in his body is still flowing and fresh.