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Abagworo:
The Abiriba video ended in a central Igbo compliant phrase.

"kupuru wé nu eka" meaning "clap for them" .

In this case eka is aka/hand and wé is ha/them in central Igbo.

The Abiriba video is 50% central Igbo as against 95% of Ika video.

And you buried him before I had the chance

gerg:
The Owerri-Ika relationship is being blown out of proportion. Me as an Ika man, I don't understand majority of what Owerri people speak. language is easier to understand in songs but I don't even understand most of what oriental brothers and other Owerri musicians speak. Only thing I see in common is the ri factor. Owerri sounds very deep to me. I understand Anambra better than Owerri. so how is it similar to Ika/

Blown out of proportion or not,you now agree there's a relationship/similitude.
That's a first.

I was expecting you to deny that's Agbor ika dialect,so I bury you on this board.

Eni fe wo 'seju akan l'oro e,wa pe leti omi.
Notice ko,ultimatum ni

ehikwe22:
Can you kindly explain how it is similar to Owerri? Or close to Owerri?

Because it is.
Even I,an Nnewi man,recognized it.
@Abagworo,that's Agbor ika dialect he wrote there.
I've heard them speak thus.

HungerBAD:
Cry Baby.

Just wasted my time reading this crappy interview of this man. I thought his praise singers, hail him as an intelligent person?this just shows to you that these groups in the East are nothing, but fronts for these Eastern Agitators, while claiming not to be in the know in public.

So, this man is saying the Government should negotiate with IPOB?because to him, they are negotiating with the Militants in the Niger Delta?while mentioning OPC.

This guy is a Joke. I thought the people from "Warri" hold sway in the comedy sector in Nigeria? did not know the East is trying to give the Wafferians a good run for their money, by sending this Joke to be the President of an important organization.

For starters, the Niger Delta Militants or the OPC had never, will never, and dont agitate for the break of Nigeria. And these is what the IPOB stands for. This Oliver Twist, is complaining there are no Igbo's in the Intelligence community in Nigeria. So until the Intelligence Agencies in Nigeria has a 90% Igbo membership, that is when you guys will become satisfied?moreover it will even be stupid to entrust anything to the East for now.

When Germany and Japan fell in the Second World War. The Allied Nations, knew that there were and will be elements of dissents in those countries, and what did they do? the US established Military bases in Germany and Japan with a view to keeping an eye on them for the next "100" Years, just in case they want to start something again, while depriving them of Nuclear Capabilities.

It is this same strategy that should be used by the Nigerian Government, with the East, so as to keep an eye on them. The Civil war is not even "100" Years, and they are back again, with the chant for the same Biafra.

Losers.

I really don't like quoting or responding to the idiots that populate this forum now, but some corrections.
Japan and Germany have nuclear capabilities, had it within a decade of the end of the war.
Military bases weren't to "keep an eye on them",but on the then emerging communist threats of the Soviet Union,China/North Korea.
As for all your other stite...............

UncleJudax:
I couldn't hold the laugh. These guys surrounding the president are really generously and exceptionally dumbb.
But then again...nothing will happen. I mean this is Buhari, the saint that borrowed to buy APC presidential nomination form.

You wonder why the country is sinking into the abyss.

Dumb is being mild and polite.
Stupid,idiotic and senseless are other fitting words I could have used,but chose not to.

genearts:
Read and understand. If you can't understand, ask someone to explain it to you.

He gave a "gift" of #500,000 to a judge handling a case for which he was counsel at that particular point in time,and it's not bribery?.
Stealing is not corruption then,going by your warped mindset.
@OP,Awodein just tacitly acknowledged bribing the judge,going by his statement.Adesina should have done due diligence, read between the lines before putting up this childish,I should say asinine, rebuttal out.He but merely confirmed the story.

2.5b for security outfits and 200million for security equipments. I didn't know we now have another NSA/Ministry of Defence agency. And we're "pighting kwarupsion"

gerg:
Who's debating that? Do you know that there are some Anioma affiliated groups in Anambra? But the're just a minute number so using that as an example doesn't count in this instance. I can as well say they are Enuani people even if their Enuani is adulterated. And the funny thing is they all claim Benin origin. Is it a coincidence that all Anioma groups and Anioma related groups claim Bini origin irrespective of what State they are from?

Ekwokwo and Akwokwo are exactly the same thing. same as Ali/Ani and Ara and era. That example is very inconsequential here. Stressing vowels to replace consonants is an entirely different thing. it alters the sound completely that others not conversant with it get lost to what the speaker is saying.

Your ignorance knows no bounds.
Nnewi says Nke u/gu and Nke e/ye,with the consonants mostly suppressed.Going by your daft analogy,we must be Anioma too.Tho we've existed long before most,if not all of Anioma towns.

gerg:
the ignorance is coming from you. You do not understand where an argument is coming from before you started commenting out of context. Who doesn't know all south Easterners don't speak the same?

Then knowing all Southeasterners don't speak same,you should also have known that majority Anambra communities understand,and some speak,nkei and nke e.
You are the one being ignorant here.
@Redbonesmith,some communities in Orumba and Aguata say ekwukwo for akwukwo.
@Agadez007,we say fundua for now.

By FRANKIE EDOZIEN
FEBRUARY 17, 2017
In April 2015, Muhammadu Buhari became the first opposition politician to defeat a sitting president in
Nigeria , in a mostly free and fair election. Mr. Buhari, a former army general, who ruled Nigeria for 18 months from 1983 to 1985, had a reputation for being incorruptible and a disciplinarian.
When Mr. Buhari returned to the Aso Rock presidential villa, Nigerians were disgruntled by reports of widespread graft by government appointees, and public services were on the decline. His election was supposed to usher in change, but less than two years later, he has been acting as if tending to the country’s needs should come on his own schedule.
On Jan. 19, Mr. Buhari left for a 10-day holiday to London; it seemed odd to leave the warmth of Abuja for the misery of English winter. By early February, Nigerians were told that Mr. Buhari had extended his trip for unspecified medical tests. No return date was given. Who can begrudge a 74-year-old the medical tests he is said to be undergoing in London?
If only Mr. Buhari had invested in the human resources and infrastructure required to conduct such medical examinations and treatments in Nigeria. Every year around 60,000 Nigerians seek medical treatment abroad, mostly in India and Dubai. Women who have a choice will spend every penny for maternity services abroad. People in Lagos openly talk of hospitals rationing supplies for those who have to go there.
When he first took the reins of government from Goodluck Jonathan, who governed during an oil boom, Mr. Buhari lamented that he found an empty treasury, that Nigeria faced millions of dollars in debt and wasn’t even able to pay civil servant salaries.
As Africa’s largest oil producer, Nigeria was hit hard by the global collapse in oil prices; crude is responsible for more than 90 percent of its exports and 70 percent of its government revenues. Oil prices plunged sharply, from close to $100 a barrel in 2015 to about $70 a barrel now, after recently climbing again.
The measures Mr. Buhari took to reduce Nigeria’s dependence on oil may yet yield fruit. He has emphasized expanding agriculture and reviving a gargantuan but dormant steel manufacturing plant, linking it by a railway line to iron-ore mines, ports and customers.
Mr. Buhari curbed the Central Bank’s independence and refused to allow the currency, naira, be determined by market forces, pegging it at about 35 percent higher than one would get on the black market. Nigerians significantly reduced banking transactions because on the streets their dollars were worth more.
It incited a severe scarcity in foreign exchange that hasn’t abated yet. Nigerians weren’t able to purchase things abroad or pay tuition fees for students in Europe, the United States and elsewere in Africa.
Even though the president relented a bit by easing restrictions and allowing market forces to determine the value of currency, “ Buharinomics” hasn’t made life easier. For a time Nigerians couldn’t even use debit cards abroad. Of course, stock markets tanked . Today you can get five different exchange rates in one day. Thousands of Nigerians have lost their jobs.
The International Monetary Fund estimates that Nigeria’s economy under Mr. Buhari’s leadership has fallen to its worst levels since the early 2000s, with a 15 percent drop in gross domestic product. Yet there lies some hope, with the I.M.F. predicting 0.8 percent growth this year.
But power supply remains erratic; the prices of rice, kerosene and bread have gone up; and tens of thousands of young people remain unemployed. Inflation and recession are constant conversation topics as staples begin to disappear from the dining table. Businesses are firing employees they can no longer afford. And this week anti-government protests broke out in Lagos and Abuja over economic woes.
President Buhari is from the predominantly Muslim north, and the protests erupting among predominantly Christian southerners are a reminder of Nigeria’s fragile ethnic fault line. Things are particularly fraught in the Niger Delta. The area remains impoverished, and past governments, including Mr. Buhari’s in the 1980s, have done little to change that.
Angry militants have been sabotaging and blowing up oil pipelines; Nigeria lost $100 billion to
sabotage in 2016 alone. Yemi Osinbajo, the vice president, traveled to the delta last week to establish a truce and soothe tempers.
In the north, the violent Boko Haram extremist group isn’t yet vanquished. As a candidate, Mr. Buhari had promised to tame Boko Haram, and he has reclaimed areas it controlled under his predecessor. In probably his greatest success to date, he has galvanized a demoralized military and pushed the group out of large swaths of the Nigerian northeast that seemed to have been ceded to them by his predecessor.
But Mr. Buhari’s absence has emboldened the terrorist group to unleash fresh attacks near Chibok, where nearly 300 girls were abducted in 2014. Mr. Buhari has also been silent about allegations that the nomadic Fulani herdsmen are
raping and killing southerners.
Mr. Buhari should know the effect of his silence. In 2010, President Umaru Yar’Adua left Abuja for medical treatment in Saudi Arabia. He returned months later on life support, to die at home. The secrecy was galling then, and it is now. Mr. Buhari’s phone conversation with President Trump has helped assuage rumors of his death. Yet his refusal to address Nigerians is a matter of serious concern.
Last year, Mr. Buhari went to Britain for treatment of an ear infection. A Lagos businessman tells me many feel he’s back there for the same reason: his inability to hear the voice of the people of Nigeria. President Buhari ought to reach out to the people. Our patience is wearing thin.
Frankie Edozien is the director of New York University’s Reporting Africa program.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/02/17/opinion/the-case-of-nigerias-missing-president.html

All these naira land children.
Which Constitution recognizes so-called traditional rulers of any stripe,not to talk of grading them?.
Do you even know the meaning of the word "republic"?.
Iranu.

NgeneUkwenu:
Is Ekwuniife not of PDP? Mischievous op!

Nope,she's APC now.
Don't act intentionally obtuse here,you celebrated her decamping,but she contested under PDP then n this case was a continuation of election appeal.

Ngozi123:
This man just said that some people from the Niger Delta region aren't really Niger Deltans. Apparently, there is no logical way to define a Niger Deltan, they 'just know'.

I can't take him seriously anymore.

Tis the stupidity that abounds on naira land.
Besides,he's not a Niger Deltan.
On this same thread,I believe,he'd tried to pose as fratermathy until he got called out.
He's an impostor.

Omudia:
stop spamming my mentions with trash. NDs know ourselves and no igbo person is a Niger Deltan.

Who then is the man from Asaba,Igbuzo,Obigbo,Egbema and the like?

greenpasture:
Your answer is perfect. And does it say and the ruling of such five men is final and without recourse to appeal?

I fear I will have to leave this though. Thank you for the additional light you've shed on the matter.

Alright.
About leaving myself.
Have a nice day

greenpasture:
One question?
Is "incapacity" defined in the Constitution? If it is not, who defines it? Is there any appeal lying from such an interpretation.

The constitution is a developing document. This flexibility is built in to prevent it from becoming irrelevant to technology, societal changes and so on. The way in which it grows and assumes greater definition is through through development of case law and convention.

We are approaching this from two different roads. You are focused on the existing process considering it full and complete, I have have anticipatory approach knowing that the definition of incapacity can never be made by five wise doctors no matter who they may be. The country has not entrusted these five people with such weighty responsibility and NASS cannot contract them vicariously. It is the SC which has the final say on matters pertaining to such matters and although they are not expressly mentioned within the process we can take notice that they are not ousted by it.

If I may say so both approaches have merit and if we do not accept that an elephant looks different from different angles then we will bat endlessly to and fro without adding anything to the discussion.

Actually,the constitution did entrust said five with such weighty responsibility.
Incapacity is whatever they say it is,be it physical or mental.
And the provisions of said section are cast in stone,unless and until it's amended by the legislature
Herein lies the difference between the US constitution you're familiar with and ours.Ours is interpreted most times literally,especially when said provisions uses MANDATORY words like "shall".It becomes binding,no wriggle room to adapt it to the times.
Tell you what,download a copy of the Nigerian constitution and acquaint yourself with its provisions.I bet you,you'll start seeing the difference between what you think ought to be,given your experience of the US system,and what actually is.

laudate:
Chai!! This matter don pain you enter bone, o! Eeyah, oya take my advice. Take the next turn on your left, and then go straight on. You will get to a market. At the gate of the market is a huge transformer. Quickly hug it with wet hands. Then come back in here, to share your experience. It should cure you of your obsession with me, you chameleon with multiple identities.

Ko ni da f'eni fi kini yi se o

laudate:
Why is my presence on this board paining you so much, you chameleon with multiple identities? Don't develop high-blood pressure, o!

You really are a nodcock,raised to the nth power.
Stupidity it is,mistaking me for another.But then,it's your factory set mode.
Let me make it clear,since you're yet too dense to grab,you're constituting a rather noticeable nuisance on this board and it's high time you're called to order.
Contribute meaningfully or shut the hell up.
Better still,go get a job.Any job,and contribute meaningfully to the society.Not the layabout that you currently are.

greenpasture:
The people that wrote both the US a a Nigerian Constitution were smart people. They knew that there was a possibility that an elected President could be removed by a small number of people working in concert. The very fact that a process has been put in place does not oust judicial intervention. The constitution does not develop through the actions of one or two functions of the polity. It creates space for all three.

The very fact that you and I are discussing this, shows where a matter like this would end up. No process can oust the jurisdiction of the courts except by express provision and the side by side provision of an alternative method for resolving disputes.

"The people that wrote both the US a a Nigerian Constitution were smart people."
You give the Nigerian side way too much credit,but we'll leave that.
No one said that there's an ouster of the Judiciary when it comes to Constitutional interpretation.
My position is that the section dealing with incapacitation of the president laid out clear,yet simple steps to take going about his ouster on that score.Following the steps religiously,to wit two-third of the FEC voting to start the process,a panel of five medical personnel,including the subject's personal physician,investigating and submitting their report to the NASS leadership,the NASS publishing said report and pronto,subject is removed.It doesn't matter if a minority writes a dissenting report.
The courts can only intervene if one or more of these steps is not followed.Otherwise,their jurisdiction is inherently ousted.They come in only if there is procedural anomaly,not cause of contest or dissent to the vote of the two-third majority in the FEC or of majority of the medical panel's report.
See the provisions of Section 143,dealing with impeachment of president/vp due to "gross misconduct".

laudate:
Wey my zobo, kunu and groundnut? Make I perch for dis corner. I wan read the OP's article well-well. I must not miss out anything. It promises to be thought-provoking.

Why did I just know you'd be here?.
Tis as if you have no other job than to masturbate on any thread Igbo, Biafra,Ojukwu and the like.
And you offer no thought provoking insight,no intelligent position,nothing positive at all.
I get the Nigerian situation renders youngsters and graduates jobless and near-useless,but dude,yours about takes the cake.
Do yourself a favour,get up off that couch and get a life.A meaningful life.

The OP talked about "facts",but provided none whatsoever. Who does that?
"Gowon implemented the Aburi Accord......".When,how and which of the provisions did he implement?.
You don't just pluck conjectures from your arse and call them facts.

greenpasture:
None of the bodies you've mentioned can interpret the law. They can only function in this way in the absence of a legal challenge. The Constitutional provision providing for the cabinet and the house to work together only function without outside involvement where the issue of incapacity is uncontested. The Constitution as is silent on the process of a contested removal on the grounds of incapacity. In such a case; and there a gaps in constitutional law, they are filled by judicial interpretation.

"....contested removal on the grounds of incapacity".
You're shifting the goal post noe,aren't you?.
The Constitution laid down all the steps that need be taken before a president or his vice can be removed on grounds of incapacity.Quite liberal steps,if I should say,and none involved the judiciary.Only the FEC,the medical panel of five,which must include the subject's personal physician,and the National Assembly who must give immediate effect to the panel's report as soon as it's submitted.
See Section 144 CFRN
A contest can only come in if one or so of the enunciated step is not followed,and the courts only to correct the oversight or have the process done over.Procedural correction,not involving itself in the decision arrived at.
In clearer terms,the courts cannot question the medical panel's report,only that the subject's personal physician is involved.Neither can it query the FEC invoking the process nor the National Assembly setting up the panel.
Seems you're inputting the US system/relevant constitutional article here,maybe you should acquaint yourself more with the relevant Nigerian constitutional provisions

greenpasture:
I will address the two points in your response. Other non cognitive points I will ignore. Emotional bias cannot be addressed by reason.

[/b]Public servants can of course serve with serious ailments but not to the point where it generates enough negative speculation that the presidency's media team cant even quench. Buhari's condition until proven otherwise looks like incapacity[b]

The burden of proving an assertion rests , and party making the assertion. The legal maxim is "EL INCOMBIT PROBOTION QUI DECIT NON QUI NEGAT ( He who asserts, not he who denies, must prove...) The Presidency does not need to prove th Presidents health, it is those that state otherwise that must prove that he is incapacitated. Public opinion can be expressed in 2019 during an election.


[/b]It is the Legislative arm that impeachs, a arm of government whose actions majorly is driven by public opinion of their constituents....the same citizens who are asking for the truth. You think the US congress hasnt addressed matters of even lesser implications when it comes to the Presidency vs public opinion??[b]
The action of the Legislative may be influenced by public sentiment but it remains subordinated to the Constitution which does not permit civil coups. The determination of the President's incapacity is a matter for the Supreme Court who will call expert witnesses to evidence and give all sides the opportunity to state their case. In the US, under the 25th amendment clause 4, the VP and the cabinet may tell the house that the President is incapacitated but even this is subject to the strictest proof by leading physicians acceptable to all parties.

I've been a lawyer since 1983 and there is no complexity here. The people will have their say and the courts will have their way. That is the beauty of democracy.

If the courts hold that the President is incapacitated and cannot perform his duties he will be removed and the VP sworn in to complete his term. For the matter to be left to the preserve of the House is to remove the possibility of an effective Government with a minority in both houses. Why did the majority of the US Senate and Representatives not remove Obama using their majority on the basis of right wing opinion? Simple, it was not in their power to do so without a legal challenge. Why do you think every President wants to stack the Supreme Court in their favour?

Regarding the other parts of your response, I am now inclined to be silent. Some things are self evident.

Let me come in here.
I don't know who's constitution you've been reading,but the determination of the President's incapacity lies with the Federal Executive Council and the National Assembly,as per the Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria.The Judiciary has no role,whatsoever.
It's strictly the Cabinet and the National Assembly.
The FEC sets the ball rolling,while the NASS constitutes the medical panel that reports on the President's health and also accepts and give effect to said report.

Igboid:

Ndo

RedboneSmith:
Haven't you been advised to stick to Ogidi Anambra history?

Edited: The moment I replied this piece of pettiness from you I regretted it. You are not dumb enough not to see that the original post is nonsense. Should have just ignored your attention-seeking ass.

Igboid:

Ndo

You two cut it out,no dick-measuring contest here.
This post is utter falsehood and crap and should be gutted.
Where is one to start with this piece of nonsense sef?
Firstly,engaging in slaving,excepting those who had committed abominations against the Earth,was in itself an abomination both to Ana and Edo in Nnewi,not to talk of slaving of blood kin.No one willfully engaged in slave trade then.
Bringing in Dim Ohachi............smh.
As he would say,k'anyi bia o

It is finished.

RedboneSmith:
One example out of like thousands. Count Charles of Anjou, a vassal Lord under the king of France. Conquered for himself a kingdom in Italy. In fact, the king of France was, in feudal times, so much in fear of his vassal lords that his word meant very little outside of the small area around Paris.

What's all that about crusades and knights and Lithuania? Are you under the assumption that you are telling me something I did not know?

My premise was and is that the HRE's imperial authority meant practically nothing, and German communities, some of them as small as 300 people, operated without any deference to it and regarded themselves as fully independent in every sense of the word.

Charles of Anjou was the third son of Louis VIII and brother to Louix IX,the crusader.He was not just any "vassal lord"
Charles conquered the two Sicilies with the French army.
Heck,you're even confusing periods.The Capetians started out without power,but gained absolute power under Phillip II.
The HRE,however,started out and stayed all powerful throughout its span.Right from Charlemagne down to Habsburg-Lorraine.
Dude,give it up.Your "German hypothesis" holds no water at all.A strong empire existed,to have germanised Berlin.Prussia was inherited and then established by force of arms,by the elector of Brandenburg.
That,however,is not the case a la Ika and the rest Igboland east of the Niger.
Now,for the last time,stick to Igala, Anioma and bits of Igbo history and culture you know of.Stop dabbling in European history for your false equivalencies,tis way beyond your ken.

RedboneSmith:
Any lord with enough coins to hand out could raise large armies in feudal Europe.

No. Germanisers did not establish the Baltic states. Balts (close cousins of the Slavs) did. Germanisers didn't go further than Brandenburg and Prussia. You are a history student. Go check out how those two areas became German, and come and tell me how it was all due to the Imperial might of an all-German emperor.

*sigh*
This is much like taking candy from a child.
Hellooooo!
Ever heard of the Northern Crusades,the Livonia Crusade,the Teutonic Knights?.
Only much of Lithuania escaped,and that by merging with Poland after beating back the Knights.
You're a gift that just keep giving.
Stop typing and go hit the books for a while,please.

Any local lord can raise armies in medieval Europe?.
Are you for real?.
Which and which local lord did that and when,pray tell?.
Don't mention William,he was a Duke.The equivalent of a small king or sovereign grand duke today.

Cire80:
Please stop. I've always been Ika and will always remain Ika. Anybody well versed in Ika language, culture and traditions must also know much about Edo because there are lots of similarities. I'm not claiming to be well versed in Ika but the little I know helped me in understanding Bini to a great extent

You want to have yourself exposed for all to see,ekwa?.
Being Bini doesn't stop you contributing to ika debate,same as I.
What I'm against are the lies and revisions.
I would advise you take back this particular lie.

RedboneSmith:
I can't quote your comment for some reason.

I doubt that someone majoring in medieval European history is unaware of the severe limitations of the Holy Roman Empire. You're most likely an enthusiast and nothing more. Many small-time adventurers held the pope captive at various points in history. Norman the Conqueror wasn't even a king, but a duke when he overran England. So I don't know how sacking a territory could be proof of the imperial might of the Holy Roman Emperor.

If it wasn't late, I would have gone to my study and quoted copiously to demonstrate that the HRE was an empire only in name, and played ZERO role in the Germanization of former slavic territories in Brandenburg and Prussia. The Germanisers were migrant farmers and a band of knights - The Teutonic knights.

Austria-Hungary came much much later in history to be of any relevance to the issue at hand.

You see your life?.
What you called an "Empire in name only" controlled armies,sacks cities n kings at will,yet have limited powers?.That shit you're smoking is very strong,I tell you.

BTW,it's William the Conqueror.Not Norman.
The invasion was tagged Norman invasion cos he was Duke of Normandy,wielding powers much like a king in his territory,n was supported by Norman nobility.Capetian France,in it's early days,was a confederation,with the King more of a figurehead and real powers residing with the dukes and counts.It was Phillip II Augustus that really changed that.That's an aside.

The Austrian empire was REFORMED much later in history into the Austro-Hungarian empire,under Franz Jozef.Austrian empire had existed for centuries before that and was in fact the successor state to the HRE.

Oh,the Germanisers,as you call them,established the Baltic states,which to all intents n purposes are still Slavic in outlook n somewhat in language.
Try again.

BTW,aside Phillip IV the Fair of France,leading to the 100-year Avignon papacy,I will like to know which "small-time adventurer(s)" held the Pope captive and at what time in history.
I did warn you to hit the books first before making any allusion to European history you know nothing about,didn't I?.

Igboid:
Lol! We are to throw away Onwuejeogu and Iduwe works and accept your Edonized ones that defy logic when put under scrutiny of rational reasoning?

Stop debating that guy.He's Edo,not Ika.
Ehikwe happened to be the Ika among all those that originally started this off.