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bykebyke:
Nah nah nah nah.

Enough is enough.


ThiagoBack.

chic2pimp:
Is that even up for debate? Hazard na still Local champion.

raumdeuter:
Goalllllll

See goal

raumdeuter:
Mane Nations cup 11 goals
Neymar Olympics 10 goals
Hazard Nothing still 10 goals

How much of a failure is this Hidden hazard

bykebyke:
Please speak for yourself.

dmcdad:
I stated it categorically clear this morning or yesterday, probably in response to Chelseafan1 I guess how Messi had won MOTM awards without scoring a goal, or sometimes even assisting. If you don't believe that, then there is no point going further with this convo.

If you stay where you are to ask me how an attacker can win MOTM awards without scoring, it would only make me wonder what kinda football you've been watching. Forget the trolling and all, but I've seen games Hazard gave MOTM performances without scoring or maybe just having an assist or even none at all. Attacker or not, the standard remains the same. Goal keepers win MOTM awards with attackers on the pitch. Hart won the MOTM award against Barcelona at the Camp Nuo some 2 seasons ago albeit they lost. That alone would tell you what it means to give MOTM performance and not have anything to do with scoring a goal or giving an assist. If that of Hart doesn't drive home my point, then sorry about the whole convo. Maybe you should leave me to wallow in my foolish and nonsensical thought of a player (attacker) giving MOTM performance without G+A.

I case my rest.

dmcdad:
Iniesta getting MOTM in finals, was he the one that scored in those finals? Even for the world cup, he wasn't given the MOTM just because he scored, he was given for the masterclass performance. I thought people knew how well to watch football. I guess I overestimated many people's abilities in understanding footie.

obiorathesubtle:
I hated Enrique's pattern of football from the first day... The fact that he rotated like a dunce a lot of times, annoyed me the most.. But I didn't voice out because the trophies came, we beat Madrid convincingly, we won matches that proved difficult for us, even under pep..


But the reason we're Barça, I wasn't seeing that on the pitch.. If I dared speak on this thread, I know the number of football professors who would've shut me up..



When I said Munir shouldn't have been sent away, one genius gave me a million reasons why he should've been sent.. And the genius also said, and I quote "Paco is light years ahead of Munir"... Where's the Paco now?

Roberto who was impressing in midfield, they moved him to RB, and he was makeshift.. I warned that we needed a natural RB, but another genius said Roberto was good enough, we have Vidal too and there's not much a natural RB can offer, that Roberto can't offer..



The squad depth we once bragged about. Where is it??

We have a coach who can't use certain players.. Reserve team playing like shooting stars of Ibadan.

At 29, and almost 30.. Messi is our greatest hope.. When he doesn't play, we panic like kids on a first time rollercoaster ride. Our midfield is nothing short of shambolic.

Even without Ronaldo, bale, and benzema, Madrid can beat a team and do it perfectly..


When I say i can't see the collective brilliance anymore, people refer to trophies asif we're wailers.


Pffft.. Whatever happens from now.. I won't be able to predict, but I want Enrique to leave, he has done enough..

dmcdad:
You don't have to score a goal or make an assist just to prove your immense contribution in a team. That's the major difference between Messi and Ronaldo. If Ronaldo doesn't score or assist, then he becomes more useless than the 'b' in lamb. But Messi displays MOTM performances without scoring or assisting. Neymar has done so a couple of times this season too.

Meanwhile, tomorrow you will tell me goals or assists shouldn't be the parameters or yardstick, but here you are... Smh

raumdeuter:
So its Iniesta who will be 33 after a decade service

Nihilist:
Make we leave matter for now. PSG don score.

Party loading

Nihilist:
Of course.

I actually agree with Dayo on this issue though. Toure was out of the team until Gundogan forced Pep's hand. Kompany is fit, but Pep is not playing him. Aguero has been dropped, and last night Fernandinho played Left Back.

Pep is actively trying to phase out the older players in the team. I remember after the last West Ham game, he was saying point out how important it was that his front three were very young and as such had the energy to beat the first line of West Ham's press.

Of course, Dayo is a dodgy criminal, but he has a good point here. Pep himself has been emphasising the age factor in his recent comments

Funlordmaniac:
1 word..... GOALS! That's the currency he should focus on trading in!

Nihilist:
Pep is actively trying to reduce the age profile of ManCity though.

raumdeuter:
I dont know much about Sunderland, Aside Defoe I dont even know any of their players without googling

Pep inherited old players, Mourinho inherited a young team. So why would Mourinho need 11 new players to replace young talents he has?

raumdeuter:
Wenger has been in charge of Arsenal for several seasons so who will he blame? George Graham?

Klopp has the same excuse because Rodgers filled the team with scrubs who dont fit, he will get rid of them gradually and he has started thats why this season was better than the last for Liverpool,

Man Utd team before Mourinho was filled with young players the likes of Mata, Blind Smalling, Herrera, Martial Rashford and I called this out before the season began, Mourinho inherited a better and younger team than City.

raumdeuter:
WHat are the generalizations you accuse me of?

raumdeuter:
This is desperate hanging at straws
Even if you remove Bravo you have a starting 10 outfield which half are over 30.

Which team among the current top 6 have 5 starting outfield players over 30. I have always hammered at the 4 full backs over 30.

raumdeuter:
Below is my post that followed. I am sure you understand but trying to do I no go gree

raumdeuter:
Before Pep came to City, Mangalas fate was already decided and even Pellergin who bought him,i gave up on him,

The point is before Conte Chelseas buys were useful buys which is why they can line up an 11 with 10 of them under 30. Of the current Chelsea 11 only 3 were Conte buys. That means the team was already stacked with good players.

While Citys buys before Pep were mostly useless thats why no matter how you try the team will always be filled with retirees. 4 full backs all over 30 in a position that requires a lot of mobility. Thats poor squad planning from City and Pep isnt going to fix that in a window

When City in the past 3 yrs was blowing money on Bony Negredo, Mangala Lampard Demichelis etc. Looks like there are even more Mancini(who left 4yrs ago) buys left in City than Pellegrini(who left less than a year ago) buys.

WHoever conducted transfers in the days of Pellegrini just wasted money and didnt give the team a chance

raumdeuter:
You are mixing many issues together Point where I have ever said a keeper being over 30 is a problem.

2. Aside age, the wingers at City are unproductive, if you are playing 4-3-3 the 3 in front needs to be goal threats, Jesus Navas with 8 goals in 4 seasons isnt, Nolito is. So Nolito is an upgrade already over Navas

raumdeuter:
Check his starting 11 last game and see how many of them are over 30
Bravo, Sagna Kolarov, Zabaleta Yaya Silva.

raumdeuter:
Most of these Demichelis, Negredo, Bony Jovetic, Mangala were already certified wastes before Pep got there, If you want to blame anyone for those its on Pellegrini

WHile Contes predecessors were getting young players who after 3 seasons are still useful, Peps predecessors were filling the team with Bony, Negredo, Demichelis, Mangala, Sagna, Fernando, Lampard

Mourinho had a spending monopoly in Europe at his first reign, No club could match or come close to Chelsea spending between 03 and 06

Nowadays PSG, United, Barca Madrid, Chelsea all EPL clubs and even China has more more to compete for talents than they did under Mourinho

A millionaire in Ajegunle will shine more than a millionaire in VGC

raumdeuter:
Its a well known facts that age doesnt affect keepers they way they affect outfield players because players dont move a lot

Nolito was bought to have a goal scoring winger. And reduce the goal scoring load on the central striker, Navas wasnt going to score any, Navas has played 4 seasons at City and has 8 goals Nolito in half a season has 6 goals already. So replacing Navas wit Nolito was a no brainer

So like 7up says the difference is clear

raumdeuter:
Peps change in City is in progress he is gradually trying to reduce the age of the squad. Their attack his getting younger. Whats left is to buy 2 young full backs, a young DM

See the team Conte inherited you can see young players all Under 30yrs currently bought within the last 3yrs who are still contributing like Pedro, Matic, Costa, Fabregas, etc Thats why Conte can field a starting 11 with like 9-10 under 30yrs

Compare that to City, their recent buys include Mangala, Negredo, Bony, Lampard, Fernando Jovetic Demichelis Navas have either been sold off or arent useful anymore. The rest are older and would need to be replaced soon

Most of their purchases in those Pellegrini years save for those bought last season (Sterling, KdB and Otamendi) are wastes

raumdeuter:
Jesus is the competition for Aguero
Nolito and Sane are the competition for the wings where they had Navas and Steling, Gundogan was the Yaya replacement,

Age doesnt count for keepers like they do for outfield players, most keepers barely move throughout the game thats why a Buffon and a VDS can keep into their late 30's. Neuer is considered young and hes over 30, Zoff was still winning trophies in his 40s

raumdeuter:
And who are the under 30 replacement available.

raumdeuter:
Did Jesus start any of those games in attack

dmcdad:
Then you need to watch Neymar play and you'll feel sorry for the lad. The guy is always a target, and the refs don't care. Imagine a Bilbao player coming out to say Neymar deserves all the thuggish bullies he gets. Not in any way saying Hazard doesn't get fouled ooooo. Before somebody go misquote me.

Softorgasm:
when the truth hits them in their faces and they realise they have nothing to counter, then they turn to curses, insults to hid their shame..
I know your types, Chelsea touts that fights and break bottle in a match center when Chelsea lost a match...
It's in your blood and the blood of your fellow Chelsea brothers, so i won't argue with you.

bykebyke:
Cool story bro.

Mane>

Softorgasm:
now you can now see why it is an abomination and a crime that warrant the penalty of death by frying of your penis balls, for someone to compare boy hazard with Prince neymar and King messi...
If you know the numbers of times neymar get brutal kicks and tackles in a match and he will still steal the show then you will understand that hazard is in the same level with thiago alcantara, de brune, aguero, which are all boys and loyal to their boss neymar....
Messi is from another planet..