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DissTroy:
Dr. Umar is completely against interracial marriage.

Yes, he is platformed by the most influential and biggest Black podcast.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gx9SCVP9Skc?si=JpeyLAA3fp98m-V3

They laughed about it. He has millions of followers and speaks at events.

Even Nick Fuentes isn't this crazy, but he's a White supremacist.

You can only bamboozle people lapping up CNN narratives. I don't. I dig deeper. I see the double standards.

"Dr Umar is not mainstream. He's a joke nobody takes seriously." He got featured on the most influential Black-targeted podcast in the West, The Breakfast Club.

Here's how influential The Breakfast Club is in Black American socioculture.

Kamala Harris avoided interviews during her campaign run. Avoided Andrew Schulz, avoid Joe Rogan and other podcasts.

But she got on The Breakfast Club because as a voice it was crucial to winning Black votes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyKKzOygtfk The she kept posting snippets and clips from the interview leading up to Election day.

"Dr Umar isn't mainstream."

Dr Umar Johnson's profile on Prairie View A&M University website: https://www.pvamu.edu/event/2024-spring-royce-west-forum-presents-dr-umar-johnson/dr-umar-johnson-1/ . He's a regular speaker being platformed. Nobody has canceled him. Black people are comfortable with him or the introspective ones outrightly avoid the uncomfortable discussion that his persona is.

But Elon Musk must be canceled.. Charlie Kirk who talked about embracing everyone, including those of skewed sexualities (which makes him more liberal than me in that regard) is a racist who got canceled and got what he had coming to him.

Yep! "Dr. Umar isn't mainstream." Someone platformed by the most significant platforms to spread racial hatred is excused away on Nairaland.

Dr. Umar invited on a UK tour (tour!) 7 years ago to perpetuate messages of hatred:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmbJX3_lN8Q?si=cwVqqRnB1y8aUvo7.

He got a big reception.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAdgy25JTYY?si=ZTuvZ-NvkU4vspAZ

Dr. Umar now has a reality show to shame and harrass Black people who even date or have casual sex with Whites.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hhL-zVgTQM?si=SllmwtJmZfig75Rg

But "Disstrôy likes strawman. Dr Umar isn't mainstream and nobody takes him seriously."

You want more? I can do more.

"Dr Umar is not mainstream. Dr Umar is a meme."

LOL. This is Dr Umar invited to speak on college campuses to keep indoctrinating on Black racial superiority:

Dr Umar had crowd (college students) shocked after saying why he thinks the alleged true reason Diddy, R Kelly, & Bill Cosby are locked up😬 pic.twitter.com/R3vtUMAtH3

— Raphousetv (RHTV) (@raphousetv2) December 5, 2024

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No White racist is being invited to speak on campuses to reinforce notions of White supremacy.

The same media which told you Charlie Kirk was a racist who had it coming turns a blind eye to what racist like Dr Umar do.

The hypocrisy. When you are ready for factual, intellectually stimulating debates instead of name-calling for fleeting 'kikiki' moments, you know how to get started.

A quick one also for those who think "Black right always and White bad":

Why do White celebrities immediately move to White majority neighbourhoods?

Do google the highlighted. Forget all those pieces by the Woke media watering down to segregation nonsense. Read the factual ones.

Funny thing is, once Black people become rich in the West, they move to White majority neighbours.

Dave Chappelle and Kevin Hart say they feel safer there. Ali Siddiq brags about it and has been the basis of his last three specials.

I can go on and on.

Immediately the now-exposed Black Lives Matter organizers stole the monies donated, the first thing they did was buy homes in White majority communities. They fled the Black ones.

Again, prove me wrong.

You want to blame Whites for all our problems and ensure White guilt and reparations and more, but see White majority neighbourhoods as status symbols and even admit being safer around White.

In colonial Lagos, it was a status symbol to live in Ikoyi. Háte the colonizers but want to live in their areas away from your own kind.

LOL. Go drink on your CNN and NYT koolaid.

You want to speak about racism but you are comfortable referring to Whites as 'crackers' like the most famous Black comedians do (including Dave Chappelle) on specials commissioned by Netflix and SNL, but if a White comedian says a Black racial slur, he would get canceled by the same platforms.

You call Donald Trump "the orange turd" everyday to refer to his colour of skin but if anyone dares refer to Michele Obama's skin, he gets canceled.

Hypocrisy.

We are freaking hypocrites as a people and race in many instances.

Sportsweb:
There should be Black Supremacist too. Black people can say any awful things to white but a white man that doesn't want to get into trouble will be careful on what to say because of slavery that happened many years ago

LOL.
Do you realize Whites were the first documented slaves and there's been slave trade going on in the Middle East non-stop for 3000 years?

I know we like to revel in victimhood but learn our global ancient, Medieval and contemporary history first.

Theflint1:
Wrong analogy, in the context you've described, nothing shows I preyed on my neighbours. Same can't be said about Nigeria under colonial rule.

Let's just assume you didn't steal their data by remote-accessing their devices.

Wait! Colonialism was bad? We both agree. But you also want to revel in the 'glory days' of colonialism?

It's the same way I believe if a White man can't call you a Ñîggá, I shouldn't call you one. A racial slur is a racial slur. I never even allowed my friends refer to me as such growing up.

Theflint1:
Nigerians might remember fondly of pre-colonial Nigeria, but a Brit making reference to those "glory days" would draw ire from the average Nigerian, regardless of what their thoughts are on pre-colonial Nigeria.

So you want to remember fondly of being colonized, but others shouldn't point out how better it was?

Your neighbours can remember fondly how they enjoyed free wifi to learn tech skills from you, but you can't say, "When I was around, I used to give those people free wifi. How come the landlord doesn't do so more often for them? I did it well."

Are you wrong? Did they not benefit from your free wifi and video tech tutorials??

obainojazz:
You’ve said many things that don’t relate to me.
I follow Elon and you’ll see him constantly posting black crimes or something related but never a white crime.
No one said they shouldn’t reproduce, na still them Dey kill themselves for war.
How many thousands of oyibo men have died in Russia-Ukraine war.
If black commit crime, Elon will blame culture and race.
If Oyibo commit crime, Elon will say it’s the woke mind virus.

Obiano, but it is. Let's shelve the emotionality for a minute.

Blacks are just 15% of the population but commit 85% of the violent crimes. Please check the US DOJ official website for historical demographic crime data.

Blacks are more likely to commit Black-on-Black and Black-on-White crime than any other race in the US. Please prove me wrong.

The Black community is ravaged by broken homes.
Studies have shown kids in broken homes and without strong father figures in their lives are more likely to commit crimes, be less educated and other such statistics. Including teenage pregnancies too.

You can either address these truths as a community or gaslight other pointing out the truth.

Shelve emotionalism. It hurts, I know. I hurts my prides as Black man too somewhat, but it's the truth.

Theflint1:
Disstroy, the OG King Strawman

Same Dr Umar that practically under every of his IG post is people trolling him, asking for the Marcus Garvey school he promised to build. A famous internet troll and running meme becomes a mainstream black political figure because of agenda.

Nick Fuentes is a troll. Ben Shapiro is a troll. One is a Whate Suprematist talking head; the other is a Zionist lackey.

Find out the meaning of troll.

You should read. The South African athlete is a troll too. He's a meme too. Trolls size opportunities then go mainstream.

Trolls annoy and use shock value for attention then become influential with the attendant attention. Dr. Umar did same. Nick Fuentes did same. VDM did same. Now they are influential and every sneeze they take make headlines.

That's basically the history of trolls.

That I am fashioning out these arguments in split seconds or minutes and citing diverse examples should tell you these are issues I am immersed in.

No, not on Nairaland alone. I can post personal and WhatsApp group screenshots of being debating these issues over the years.

You can either debate or seek quick 'hahas'.

It's just like the salary cap of CMDs and Permanent Secretaries issue - unpopular takes and I was alone in May, but by December with the Farouk issue, it completely unraveled.

That's why I cite specific examples and provide evidence.

Ibime:
Dr Umar is not a mainstreamed political figure. What's next Sheikh Gumi?

I can understand bringing in Mamdani since the loonartik has been mainstreamed by the far left and even got position, but Dr Umar has no political affiliation and couldn't care to vote. Dr Umar position is "fk all y'all" like Malcolm X.

I was responding to the guy above. The example he used was of a racist South African athlete who nobody even remembers his name.

Dr. Umar has more influence than 100 of his type. Andz yes, there's nothing more mainstream than the Breakfast Club in the Black community. Even Kamala Harris had to go on the show, I think, to solicit Black votes

Dr. Umar is mainstream now. He's even more mainstream than Nick Fuentes will ever be. He gets referenced a lot. Go on X, Facebook and YouTube. See his combined views and followers.

He's the most dominant Black voice on race issues away from politics. Mention which Black is more influential in that niche. But he is platformed.

Imagine Joe Rogan platforming the Grand Wizard or the spokesperson of the Proud Boys.

obainojazz:
Something been wrong with Elon, tweeting things not meant for someone at his level.

I'm more likely to gravitate towards people who are blunt and real. None of that fake niceties then you are saying something else behind closed doors. That's why Elon Musk can't be canceled.

That's why Ellen DeGeneres who shilled for the Left was canceled. She was pushing the "Be Kind" campaign but was exposed later by staff and associates for being mean, rude, and racist.

Elon believes his race should reproduce more. I have no problem with that.

Anyone who has a problem with a person who says his own race should reproduce more when you hasn't called for yours to be stopped is the closet racist.

Japan is doing everything to increase birthday rate. South Korea too. China added. The whole Sino-racial group of people are complaining about their low birthrates and voicing concerns if they don't reproduce, they'll be replace soon. Japan especially.

Nobody has called them racist. But Elon is a racist because he wants his race (which he can't choose) repopulating. He hasn't said Blacks must be stopped.

The same Elon is against Bill Gates who keeps introducing measures to make Black women infertile.

But Bill Gates is your ally and Elon is your enemy.

Black people... Think!

Dr. Umar is completely against interracial marriage.

Yes, he is platformed by the most influential and biggest Black podcast.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gx9SCVP9Skc?si=JpeyLAA3fp98m-V3

They laughed about it. He has millions of followers and speaks at events.

Even Nick Fuentes isn't this crazy, but he's a White supremacist.

You can only bamboozle people lapping up CNN narratives. I don't. I dig deeper. I see the double standards.

wman:
That's how that stupid White South African UFC Fighter Dricus DuPlessis stated that he'll be the first Real African Champ. Saying that Israel Adesanya and Kamaru Usman are not real African Champs.

The guy also used to retweet all those White South African racist nonsense.

Focus on him. Attack him. He is a racist. But stop making others pay for his insensitive quip.

I can list what very famous Black persons have said about Whites.

Dr. Umar who is platformed by the Black community says the most racist things about White people everyday and we justify it. Go on YouTube and Facebook to confirm. Watch his videos.

Dr. Umar literally says Black people having kids with Whites is a contamination of the Black race. He gets applauded.

Imagine if a White person said this.

We dish what we won't eat. Double standards.

So, Wizkid or Burna created generational wealth for their kids and we are suppose to share it to almàjiris for equality?

Davido's father's wealth must be shared equally amongst the people of Osun to make Communists happy?

Why do we have entitled mentality?

It's the same reason many people háte their uncles. Your uncle is rich so you must be entitled to live off his sweat. Why?

Ibime:
There is nothing romantic about 5% of the people chopping 95% of the wealth.

Or more of culture. The same entitled Black South Africans who attack your brothers from Ogoni to Awka who are being resourceful and prospering? The same Xenophobes?

How come Tanzania doesn't have the same problem?

You are actually defending Black Xenophobic South Africans who are more likely to dîsembowel you for your native Nigerian name than the White who want closed, gated communities without disturbance?

Of course there will be more to go around to the 5%. South Africa has neither declined in GDP nor GDP per Capita since apartheid, infact it has bloomed.

GDPs of all countries have doubled since that period save for Venezuela. Also, inflation happened.

I,000 rands in 1990 when Mandela came out of prison is worth about 15,000 to 20,000 rands today. Yes, I researched this. There goes your argument.

But now it has to be shared amongst the other 95%, and the 5% aren't happy that the sharing arrangement does not favour them as much as the one built on the back of black misery.

What is it with you capitalists wanting communism in other places but not in your place?

You know what, Ibime? All what you have worked for must be shared with all the homeless people on the streets of London. You agree?

[quote author=Ghost-again post=138109514]Mainstream media didn't need to tell me Elon did a nazi salute twice, my eyes saw him do it.[/quote][quote author=raum-deuter post=138109849]This is the video, So its not just a picture


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG0vc_HfkMo[/quote][quote author=Ghost-again post=138109747] I do think they are different, I also think it is legitimate to ask him [Mamdami] to explain himself on it. Perhaps he mistakenly stretched his hand and when he realized it, he closed his fist to change course. [/quote]This was the defining moment. The sheer hypocrisy and double standard. Every other comment was just every other comment.

Ibime:
Oga I'm not discussing any White Supremacy/Replacement or giving it any validity other to say than anyone who partakes in such is rightly an Apartheid boy

There is no reason on God's green earth for anyone to look back wistfully on a golden age of Rhodesia or South Africa where 95% of population had the foot on their neck except he is an Apartheid boy.

Regardless on whether you argue that South Africa is communist today. That would be akin to looking back on slavery in Haiti as a golden age just because the Haitian revolution has produced undesired economic results since then.

We look back on Nigeria in the colonial times and how it was better administered and the years after when all the colonialist had not left yet were our most prosperous as a country. Even on this thread and on the wider social media. Should I post examples across social media?

Don't our old uncles and aunties remind us of these things? Don't they remind you? Are they glorifying Colonialism?

Interestingly, the better administrated parts of South Africa and Zimbabwe are those controlled by... You know the words I'm about to type next.

You and I know why Bonny Island seemed, for years, better administrated and organized than many other parts were. At least parts of it.

Google "Elon Musk white people should give birth more".

Then read the articles dating back to years ago. He has been a pronatalist for years, and even the Left does op-eds analyzing his viewpoints on racial birthrates.

Most of the favourable viewpoints were in the years when he was anti-Trump.

His bad press began in 2022 when he bought X.

Also, he has videos extensively talking about demographic child birth rates.

Maybe you'll learn to sit through a 3-hour Elon Musk interview someday or a 2-hour Mamdami podcast with Andrew Schulz to come to your conclusion instead of waiting for mainstream media skewed summaries.

Ibime:
This same Elon Musk?

I have followed Elon Musk for years and I have very valid reason to call him Apartheid Boy

Na who no sabi Elon Musk go dey excuse am

There's actually a White replacement theory. Elon Musk has always said Whites should reproduce as much as other races do else they'd be replaced.

I can mention top Leftist who have called for Whites to be exterminated.

And, yes, non-Whites in today's wod are more likely to be violent to Whites than otherwise.

Here's the first proof: In the U.S. today, there are more black-and-white violent crimes then white-on-black. Prove me wrong, Ibime. I have the official US DOJ statistics as my own proof.

Secondly, Whites reproduce the least in today's world and Elon has been calling for more reproduction for years even when he was the darling of the Left


Here's your beloved CNN praising Elon Musk for advocating for more births in the Western Hemisphere (where Whites primarily live in) : https://edition.cnn.com/2025/04/10/us/pronatalism-elon-musk-birth-rates-cec .

Go on X, Raum. There are actually famous Leftists campaigning in support of Iran and criticizing the protestors who want Liberation as Zionists. Go on X now and local-search "Iran Zionist" and "Iran Israel fund". You'll be shocked.
The same people calling the leader of the free world a dictator are backing actual dictatorships.

I had my jaws drop reading these tweets last week.

They are also on this thread.

raumdeuter:
At some point, you have to come to the conclusion that the Left is a gathering of insanity.

What are their major positions that do not make you look like you are insane. The position of the American left is just reflexively "Anything opposite of what Trump says or does"

I saw one funny clip. A reporter was asking a leftist

Reporter: What do you think the right should do to reach out to the left
Leftist: They should understand the grievances of minorities, women ..
Reporter: What is a woman?

Leftist "Has not been able to reply till today"

El Rufai confessed they imported illegals from all over West Africa to bolster votes for the APC and Buhari in 2015. We rightly condemned him.

The Left imports illegals from all over the world to win elections with voter fraud. You support it.

We are still complaining on this thread about minors voting with fake voter cards and the INEC IREV failing during the Elections.

The Left endorses and legalizes mail-in voting and no ID checks for votes to win elections.

You condemned the APC and Buhari for that flaw but upthumb the Left when they do it in the US.

The freaking double standards!

Ask yourself why the most vocal people on the Right today who are most anti-Left use to be Leftists.

Trump was a Leftist all his life.
JD Vance was a Leftist all his life.
Peter Thiel who discovered Vance and pitched him to Trump was a Leftist too.
Elon Musk.
Tulsi Gabbard.

I can go on.

These are people who became shifted to the Center so are the moderates on the Right now.


You openly support a Communist in Mamdami yet campaign against Tinubu who operates some sort of Nigerian-style democracy which is, well, you know, at least not Communism.

Cognitive dissonance?

raumdeuter:
Okay after the insult, Can you now answer the question?

Explain why Mamdani a man who made the same hand gesture and has an history of anti semitism is not held to the same Nazi standard as Elon

It's the same reason they toned down with the Epstein list. Immediately evidence began unraveling about Bill and Hillary Clinton with pictures being on the list, Oprah too, and Hakim Jeffries exposed for communicating with Epstein in 2019 while the trial against Trump was ongoing with Epstein coaching Hakim on the questioning, the mainstream media is no longer vehemently pushing for the release of the List.

It's the same way they justified Kirk being assassinated but preaching for empathy with Renee being shot. The double standards of these people.

raumdeuter:
Now let me use your logic

You ask a man on TV, Do you condemn slavery and he avoided condemning it 3 times, will it be wrong to say that he is in support of slavery? It is basic logic

Like typical leftists, Has distroy called you any name, Have I called you a name but like most leftists when they run out of point, they call their opponents namess

I will not respond to any of his insults.

Let's do facts. Videos, posts and all.

I like to expose the double standard of these people.

The people who support a man appointing Al Qaeda lawyers on retainership want to take moral high ground.

Imagine the Mayor of Nyanya in FCT appointing the lawyer always representing the same Boko Haram who bombed in the infamous Nyanya park bombing. Imagine the outrage.

That's exactly what Mamdami did but on a worst scale.

I will not respond to you with insults. I want to systematically humiliate you by baring your hypocrisy for all to see.


The insults will be for some other time. Bring on the facts and let's rumble.

Ghostagain:
Read what I wrote again and again until you understand. Also mamdani never called for globalised intifada, he only didn't condemn people who used the word intifada when a Zionist journalist was asking him to do so, from that moment unsubstantiated rumours of him calling for globalised intifada started to spread.

You are clearly parked in elon's camp and your reply to me in which you ignore common sense and in which you don't seem to read my comment properly shows your brain is full with elon's shit.

The first person Mamdami appointed was a known anti-Semite who joked about the Holocaust and retweeted "From The Rîver to the Séa" and other such hateful things.

The second person he appointed was the lawyer put on retainership by Al Qaeda to represent them in court.

Prove me wrong. Oh! Don't prove me wrong - the facts are out there.

Prove me wrong were the very words Charlie Kirk said during debates which got you guys assassinating him and celebrating his murder, while asking for his wife and kids to be next. The very assassination CNN, NYT and NPR you read rationalized and partially excused away.

Ghostagain:
I do think they are different, I also think it is legitimate to ask him to explain himself on it. Perhaps he mistakenly stretched his hand and when he realized it, he closed his fist to change course. ...

I swear you follow Don Lemon on X! What sort of defence is this?!

"Let's give people I like reasonable doubt but lynch those I don't."

This is the freaking hypocrisy and double standard the Left is always accused of.

You know why people don't shît on the Right so much like they do on the Left? It's because they don't position themselves as moral sentinels like the Left does.
There's a reason Pastor Chris Okafor will get more scolding for sleeping around than Charles Okafor.

raumdeuter:
WHat is your opinion about the Mamdani salutes? Are they any different from what Elon did?

Don't waste your time with such brainwashed people. I can post Kamala Harris doing the same salute.
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The current hot topic at the professional protestors being exposed. Go on X. Check Benny Johnson's and NIck Shirley's timelines. That's where the scoop starts. It started this morning.

More of the debate I had with the persons in the stated group yesterday: 👇🏼

'To the fair, the mainstream media stopped being the main source of news almost half a decade ago.

There's a revolution going on this minute in Iran (and has been since the new year began) yet all BBC, for example, has been doing is reporting the Ayatollah dismissing it as Western propaganda and Zionist-funded coup attempt. But Iranians, using VPNs and Starlink, have been streaming the revolution (protests and riots), posting pictures and videos on X.

Months ago when the Nepalese revolution started, the mainstream media knew jack about it and treated it some some backpage information of little consequence. I had to stream a British 27-year-old tourist's YouTube stream called *WeHateTheCold* to get what was happening. He was on ground and in the thick of the protests and riots, and the aftermath. Mainstream media got it wrong completely.

I stated here last week or two weeks ago it had to take a 23-year-old independent amateur journalist, Nick Shirley, to discover a $9 billion systemic fraud in Minnesota. The evidence so glaring, it forced Minnesota Governor Tim Walz to ditch his reelection bid, and got hundreds of people charged for fraud.

The mainstream media isn't the 'main-source' media anymore; not in the last 5 years, certainly.'

We were debating this in WhatsApp group yesterday, coincidentally. It was about mainstream media and their biases. The person I was responding to here is pro-Left, a columnist for The Nations Newspaper, The Cable and others, and a celebrated person in sociopolitical circles.


Here, my response to him: 👇🏼

'The structures themselves instituted to balance partisanship serve specific interests to begin with.

What structures of balancing partisanship will a Michael Bloomberg or Rupert Murdoch put in place?

You should watch The View, sir. Even you who is Left-leaning will roll over due to second-hand embarrassment.

What structure to stabilize the partisan views will a Fox News have? Everything Conservatives do is right. Everything. No questions asked.

On social media, for example, a Ben Shapiro, who use to be a mainstream media guy with structured checks and balances but has now gone independent, is already outed as a Zionist. Fox News platformed him for years.

Already, they depend on views; the social media news sources, that is. Skew it too Left or Right and you lose viewers and ratings so you must balance it.


There's has been a *Community Note* feature on X since 2023 which fact-checks everyone on real-time. It has fact-checked even Elon Musk, Trump, and Kamala Harris several times to expose they were lying on specific issues.

CNN and CBS would have given Kamala a pass on such issues. Fox News and the New York Post would have given Trump and Elon a pass on such issues.

That's why X and Facebook have been ranked to be more credible platforms for news reportage than the whole of mainstream media in the last 3 years consistently, despite its many flaws.'

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