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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 7:34pm On Sep 30, 2024*

LordAdam16:
Russia is not abandoning Syria.
Mehar Assad is Bashir Al Assad's brother.
Russia dared the US+NATO+entire Sunni Middle East for Bashir Al Assad.

Last week, Israel carried an operation in Tartus, Russia's Navy Base in Syria, Russia shot down every missile.
https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-821584

Israel is not invincible.
If Putin wants he could kill Netanyahu while he was flying back from the UNGA over the Atlantic.

-Lord

You brag a lot without being aware of underlying issues; following media rhetorics like it matters most. It's all talk.

There are Jewish Russians. Israel and Russia signed a visa-free agreement 16 years ago which is still effective as at today. Both countries trade almost a billion and half dollars yearly between themselves, including vegetables. Yes, vegetables.

Both Israel and Russia still maintain embassies and diplomatic rows are quickly ironed out.

Israel and Russia have never been enemies. In fact, Russia helped almost 2 million Jews escape the Holocaust.

Why does Israel need to bomb Russia? To impress upon you their might? You go off like these folks are enemies. They are not. Interests diverge at times but never enemies. When analysing global sociopolitics, my advice is you follow the money always. It paints a clearer picture of the true state of things.

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Gaming › Re: Just For Fun by DissTroy(m): 11:38am On Sep 25, 2024

joseph1832:
Tag accepted.

Joelazzo!

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 12:26am On Sep 25, 2024

March 8, 2024.

WhoDeyHause:
Don't rule out senator Monday despite the fact he's in that life draining party. He's still the one who's more on ground in the state than the other two with grassroots and all. Unless Akpata is ready to rig or people vote for LP like in the last general elections that would do ojoro cancel it's still likely between those two nigeria killing parties.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 6:08pm On Sep 24, 2024

Theflint1:
Same here my guy

You stated right on this thread you were voting ethnicity/regionalism. Something something our turn, it must rotate. You literally vote the "Emi lokan" mantra in Edo State.

Don't change it now. And you betrayed the best candidate on the ballot who campaigned hardest when it mattered most.

If Tinubu supporters = 🌽Cornmen.

You Asue supporters = 🍞 Bread boys.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 5:33pm On Sep 24, 2024

"DissTroy supported LP Presidential and voted PDP governorship..." Not everyone is like you. I have been very consistent on many things for years on and off this platform. I didn't vote any of the candidates with a hovering Godfather. I still would never. I'd rather not vote. Unlike you, I don't vote ethnicity or senatorial district or vote based on clannishness.

This exchange happened on this thread.

DissTroy:
Not to defend him but he was referring to replicating massively what Donald Duke did in Cross River with tourism in Akwa Ibom. Plans have already even begun for Ibom Carnival from the rumours I've heard, like the Calabar Carnival.

The Governor-elect is in the tourism sector. A hotelier with about 27 hotels spread across various states under the Royalty brand.

I'm not his biggest fan but what he said was deliberately misconstrued by the opposition that's why you'd see clips.
I'd have preferred two other candidates, the APC guy being one of them based on antecedence.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 5:24pm On Sep 24, 2024

Theflint1:
It's not even that sef, people just want to be hypocrites and not get called out.

See Izzou that supports LP presidential then APC governorship
You that would support LP presidential then pass on governorship
Oyindamola that would support LP presidential then APC or PDP governorship
Disstroy that would support LP presidential, APC Lagos state, PDP Akwa-Ibom, or even APC Akwa-Ibom if the state so aligns
Or is it the many other people that LP candidates didn't win their home states and you ddidn't see them marketing LP candidates either?

But lemme support LP presidential, LP Lagos, but PDP Edo and hell will be raised

Are you will to bet on deactivating your account if I show on-Nairaland and off-Nairaland evidence of me opposing the candidature of the PDP governorship candidate (who is currently the Governor of my state)?

Are you willing to bet the active status of your account if I show you evidence of me critiquing the former Governor Udom Emmanuel and opposing the incumbent because I'm opposed to Godfatherism?

Are you willing to bet on my ability to show evidence that the LP Governorship candidate was refusing to campaign, lacked the pedigree while hoping to ride on the Peter Obi wave to power?

Are you willing to bet on me showing you quoted on-Nairaland evidence of me stating the APC Governorship candidate was my second favourite because he had the pedigree (even though he was PDP until three months to the election because the PDP Primaries were skewed and influenced by the then Governor)?

Are you willing to bet on my ability to show you WhatsApp screenshots of me rejecting advances to support the PDP candidacy?

Do you want to read on-Nairaland posts of me assessing the current Governor while stating I didn't vote for him?

I campaigned for and voted my conscience across board. And in the Presidential campaign, I and mine supported financially in our own everyday citizens' way (with screenshots which I have uploaded right on this thread and are still up).

Not all of us sell our votes for Agege bread.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 11:36pm On Sep 23, 2024

DissTroy:
Okay...

No more LP top-to-bottom, my Niger-Delta brother? Olumide, a former NBA Chairman, who, on paper, is most likely to enforce and stick to the rule of law is no longer worthy of benefiting from the top-to-bottom flush?

You are actually going to vote a stooge like Asue over a more independent candidate who'd make decisions without the encumbrance of an overbearing Godfather?

My last quote on this forum before my protracted hiatus was appealing to you to support Olumide Akpata who was obviously the best candidate on the ballot.

You vehemently refused, doubling down on your resolve to vote Asue whose principal the people had an axe to grind against. You insisted on enthroning clannishness over quality in the name of equity.

Even if Obi had sacricificed himself, you were never going to vote Barr. Akpata. To top it off, Akpata had no money to throw around. Hundreds of thousands had your resolve to vote anything but him regardless of his pedigree.

You brought this on you. You orchestrated Olumide's humiliation right on this thread months ago, and tens of thousands heeded your plea.

Your sectional loyalty is the reason the best candidate isn't the Governor-elect today. Don't try to apportion the blame to anybody but yourself. You did this.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 11:24pm On Sep 23, 2024

Judas sold Jesus for 30 pieces of silver.

You sold a whole Barr. Akpata, former NBA President, for a loaf of bread? A whole Barrister? This is wrong.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 6:57pm On Sep 23, 2024*

So this is what Olumide couldn't afford which made you people humiliate the brightest mind on the ballot?

You dunked on him in exchange for Agege bread? Not even with beans or butter and a hot cup of beverage? Just dry bread?

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 5:51pm On Sep 23, 2024

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Lol.. Do you have any problem with that? If yes, create your own thread where you and your fellow capitalist goons will mastu.rbate to Western propaganda

Forgive me, Stalin. I was just referencing. I don't want to be defenestrated.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 5:48pm On Sep 23, 2024

Ballzproblem2, here's another one.

Saudi Arabia is only just considering resuming bilateral ties with Iran (Hezbollah and Hamas financiers) https://www.aa.com.tr/en/economy/iran-saudi-arabia-resume-bilateral-trade-as-part-of-rapprochement-/2881481 while it has very strong ties with Israel.

In 2018, trade between Saudi and Iran was less than Jordan Sancho's one week wage at Man. United (and trade wasn't directly) while it's dealing in hundreds of millions of dollars with Israel.

It's the same Saudi you think would support Iran-sponsored Hamas and Hezbollah against Israel?

Follow the money.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 5:35pm On Sep 23, 2024

Ballzproblem2:
Jordan depends on Israel for water,their citizens celebrated the killings of three israeli civilians by a Palestinian terrorist.

US and China dey trade with each other but them no see eye to eye when it comes to Taiwan, trading doesn't mean shit , countries depend on each other for survival.

Trading means everything. That's why most of the seeming diplomatic rows and media wars are Oscar-worthy antics.

The EU still buys oil from Russia. When the Ukraine war began, it was using proxies for optics, but not so much now.

Russia and the U.S. collaborate in the Artic Circle, in Straits of Alaska, and even aboard the ISS.

Russia and the U.S. have protection agreements to protect oil facilities in the Middle East.

The U.S. and Mexico disagree on many fundamental issues but collaborate. China and the U.S. collaborate in many areas, including in tech. Go find out where critical tech hardware come from used in Silicon Valley.
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A few Jordanian citizens celebrating Israeli citizens being killed despite depending on Israel for water? Nigeria depends on U.S. military and financial aid but there are Nigerians on Nairaland frontpage celebrating every time there's mass shooting in the U.S., there are U.S. military exercises fails, and Okpa and his communist goons literally have a thread in the Foreign Affairs Section where they wânk to anti-U.S. propaganda... You get my drift?

It's about the policies of the governments not the many perspectives of the citizenry. At the official level, these countries collaborate.

You realize Russia is just a few islands alway from the U.S., and the U.S. is closer to Russia than the U.K. is closer to Ukraine or Germany, right? Yet all the cold war and threats but Russia and the U.S. have kept everything at bay.

Follow the money and underplay and it'd help you understand how weighty the rhetorics are.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 5:06pm On Sep 23, 2024

Ballzproblem2:
Israel looked the other way because it doesn't want wider conflicts,but there's no way you'll tell me Egypt are not aware of the smuggling,they could have at least tried to fake arrest instead they blamed Israel for Oct 7.

The same smuggling had started in Jordan too,Iran is trying to get weapons to terrorist in Judea and Samaria,guess who Jordan is blaming?

Israel.so to me they don't Bleep with Israel like that.

It's Egypt looking the other way. You want to dig tunnels? Go ahead so you won't say I'm supporting 'infidels' against you. You got caught? There's nothing I could and can do. Sorry, mate. These Ziônist bastards. Sorry, you hear?

Meanwhile, despite the war in Gaza, Egypt monthly exports to Israel doubles. https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/egypt-exports-israel-doubled-2024-official-report . In the midst of a war where Hamas is fighting for its very survival, Egypt has intensified its trade relations with Israel.

Don't let these people fóol you. Ignore all the talk and rhetoric. Follow the money and subsurface interplay. That's how you see the true picture of the Middle East.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 4:37pm On Sep 23, 2024

Ballzproblem2:
same Egyptians that allowed hamas to smuggled weapons through their border if not this Israel invasion they would have continued.Tell me is that not supporting terrorism? If Egypt was cool with Israel they would have stopped the smuggling right from day one.

Instead they blamed it on corrupt officials who they're yet to persecute up till today,all Arab countries want Israel gone make no mistake forget all these fake love the ones that are not attacking Israel are the ones that don't want their country to destabilize,they know it will be a losing battle but you see constant attacks on Israelis they don't give a Bleep.

Saudi and Iran are fighting for influence in the middle east,

No Arab or predominantly Muslim nation would overtly make moves to be seen as opposing the Palestine cause. None. It'd rather Israel be attacked than its own allegiance be exposed. Not even Saudi Arabia (Israel's strongest political and economic ally in the Middle East) would make that audacious move.

The same Egypt and other Arab nations have been unwilling to take in Palestine refugees citing logistics, e.t.c. But in truth, it resents the murderous fanaticism which Hamas represents.

The tunnel was discovered and bombed and sealed, and Egypt looked the other way like it was out of its power. Better Israel doing it than them. A win is a win.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 4:15pm On Sep 23, 2024*

Ballzproblem2:
hamas is seen as Palestine resistance group by the Arab leagues or countries they're not seen as terrorist that's what you need to understand,to them(Arabs) Palestines are fighting for freedom but to us sane people they're terrorist,no freedom fighter achieve their aim by Killing and raping civilians,Saudi are empathetic to their cause,Saudi has no issue with hamas, they're willing to assist gaza but Israel has to recognize Palestinian independence which you and I know will never happen.

Middle east politics is not straightforward.

Yet the main country known to back Hamas and sponsor it is... Well, NOT an Arab country. It's a Persian country devoted to a religious sect the rest of the Arab world do not agree with. You see the logic now?

The Arab League agrees with the emancipation of Palestine, but it doesn't back Hamas. Only thing is, sometimes their interests align.

Obidients and Mikano boys do not agree. But sometimes their interests align on issues. It doesn't necessarily mean the Obidients would start a GoFundMe for a Mikano cause because their interests intersect sometimes. Sometimes the interests intersecting is a necessary 'evil'.

Members of the Arab League still doing business with Israel in volumes is the proof you need. That they have been sort of neutral military-wise even since October 7 is another proof. Throw into the mix that the skirmishes between Israel and Egypt at the Palestine border where some Egyptian soldiers were killed didn't escalate.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 3:58pm On Sep 23, 2024*

raumdeuter:
How much progress has been made after the Trump years on the Abraham accords, Without pressure from the US, they might not progress on it

Trade flourishes between Israel and Arab States despite Gaza conflict.

https://www.agbi.com/trade/2024/07/trade-israel-arab-states/

I deliberately chose a pro-Palestine and Arab publication so you realize how obvious it is.
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Forget the grandstanding by some in the media for optics, they are in bed with Israel. Hamas, Hezbollah and its Mother Hen, Iran, are the ostracized in reality within the comity of Middle East states.

Israel sold helicopters worth hundreds of millions of dollars to Saudi alone.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 3:48pm On Sep 23, 2024

Ballzproblem2:
US support for Israel is unconditional irrespective of any party i understand but so far Biden has not for once agreed to Israel ideas,all he keeps shouting is "de-escalation" while pointing fingers at israel instead of projecting force by sending aircraft carrier there ,and the US Marines don't have to do to much ,just handle the defense leave offense for israel but no.

In politics as with most things, follow the actions and study the antics, not the words. Israel is still getting aids (weapon and intelligence) from the Biden administration.
https://www.google.com/search?q=biden+administration+spending+on+israel

Biden is busy kissing the Saudi asses.And your assessment on Saudi supporting Israel is wrong,Saudi hates houthis and Iran nothing concern them with Hamas .

Trump was kissing the Saudi asses too. The Saudis are willing to play ball. It makes sense to get as many allies as you can get especially in a hostile region. Saudi is influential. You need them for stability. Even Israel knows this.

Hamas is an Iran puppet. Same with Hezbollah. Saudi hates Iran. Israel hates Iran. Do the set theory.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 3:40pm On Sep 23, 2024

raumdeuter:
This was what his Abraham accord was about until the Biden admin scuttled it

I do not like the Left. And it's not only because of what Obama did. Throw in it being the party of Wokeness and incubator of all sorts of deviancy the human mind can conjure.

But regardless of what I think about them, was the Abraham Accord really scuttled? Jerusalem is still Israel's even after Trump. The countries which signed the Accord haven't jumped into the Israel vs Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran heated fray.

So, technically, has the Abraham Accord been broken or are the other signatories just not being chummy publicly for optics viewed from the lenses of their support bases?

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 3:28pm On Sep 23, 2024

At the DNC, pro-Israel Jews embrace Kamala Harris with her husband present.
https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/2024-08-20/ty-article/.premium/at-dnc-pro-israel-jews-embrace-harris-as-pro-palestinians-gop-try-to-shift-narrative/00000191-6d2d-d8c7-a3d7-7fff1c160000

Reported by Israeli media. You better not let that woman fool you into thinking she'd tone down support for Israel if she wins.

Until a few months ago when she was sure she'd be in the race, she never showed any empathy for Gaza. Now she has. Guess why? To garner minority votes and support of ultras like AOC and IIhan Omar.

She's literally been giving blówjobs to a Jew and pro-Israel canvasser every night for years.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 3:21pm On Sep 23, 2024

Ballzproblem2:
it won't change but it will be affected,I can count how many times Biden slowed heavy bombs for Israel due to "concern" for Gaza civilians,or when he told Israel not to enter Rafah,their PM refused obviously.

So yes ,democrat president is bad for Israel,Kamala will force them into shitty peace deal.

Most of you seem to forget Kamala Harris' husband is an actual Jew. He's been part of pro-Israel and pro-Jewish delegations. Kamala is playing to the gallery for diversity votes

Another example: You really think Kamala who made a career in law enforcement believes all that Leftist "Defund the police!" mantra? She dances around that topic.

Israel has the U.S.' full support, just as Saudi Arabia supports Israel taking on Hamas and Hezbollah and Iran, but it wouldn't outrightly admit to it for optics. It's about not being seen to be offending your support base so you can act like it's not in your control.
Same for the Left, same for Saudi.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 3:15pm On Sep 23, 2024

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
I'm not deviating. ANC took up arms, in other words they accepted violence and killing to achieve their goals. That was when the apartheid sympathisers tagged "Mandela" as a terrorist. Same way Hamas is fighting an armed struggle.

According to United Nations, Hamas is a political movement. Nothing else.

According to CAC registrations, fraternities are sociocultural groups. Go figure!

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 3:11pm On Sep 23, 2024

raumdeuter:
Generally the policies might be the same but specific administration have their biases. Trump and Republicans will be more pro Israel. Biden and Kamala is telling Israel to tone it down, I doubt Trump will say anything like that

That is where the Left is very tricky. Tone it down one minute, the next minute Bibi is physically appealing in the U.S. Congress. Minutes later, it is threatening the Hague for going after Bibi. Changed its stance a few weeks later, but the Hague is surprisingly no longer threatening. Who are they playing to the gallery to fôôl?

Biden and Obama released seized money to Iran. Trump might not do that. Biden and Obama want to include Obama in the circle of friends, Bush and Trump already tagged them Axis of evil

Given how Iran has played its hand too open now, I doubt Obama would have given them that money. Obama is the master of finesse - the archetypal Mr. Steal Your Girl. Smooth talker and a master of words. It's about diplomacy and how weighty the words of the POTUS are.
Trump isn't given to political speak and all of that flowery verbiage (partly why many find him appealing). He'd tell you how it is.
If was honest enough to admit he screwed up with Libya so I assume if he knew what we know now about Iran acting out, he'd have acted differently. But his sins are still his to bear and screwed Sub-Saharan Africa over with his meddlesomeness.

Asides from the mistake with paying Iran billions, Obama's Israel policy wasn't necessary different from Trump's. We can only assume how Trump might have handled the Arab Spring and Iran between 2010 and 2013.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 2:57pm On Sep 23, 2024

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
The ANC led by Nelson Mandela fought an armed struggle against the apartheid regime in South Africa and they labeled Mandela a terrorist. Comparing Boko Haram with Hamas has shown that you have limited knowledge on the events happening in the Middle East.

Na you know wetin you mean by communist propaganda.

https://theconversation.com/justifying-the-use-of-violence-to-fight-social-injustice-is-a-recipe-for-disaster-66518

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/10/24/eff-julius-malema-mandela-similar-hamas-boycott-israel/

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67083432

Stop drawing false equivalence. The ANC didn't deviate. It fought a war of nationalism.

Hamas is fighting a religious-cum-sectional war which muddles everything. Hamas' first claim to power was to assassinate duly elected officials (actual Palestines). Its rise to power began with a coup which rubbishes all its claims to legitimacy. And, it has premised its war against Israel as a religious war against the "Zionists", never mind that there are actual Muslim Jews residing in Israel.

It's exactly like Boko Haram toppingly the Borno State Government then declaring a war on Nigeria because we are Zionists, never mind that there are Fulanis and Muslims in other parts of Nigeria who are actually Nigerians.

There's no equivalence with the ANC and Hamas. The ANC supported Palestine, not Hamas.

Hamas doesn't even represent the whole of Palestine. Don't take my word for it - go verify my claims.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 2:42pm On Sep 23, 2024

Ballzproblem2:
kamala no send Israel o,you are Right hence why i want trump to win , he'll speed up weapon shipments for Israel.

If you think U.S. foreign policy completely changes depending on the party in power, then you have more to learn. Who do you think voted weapons for Ukraine and Israel? The U.S. Senate comprised of both parties.

Kamala is only playing to the gallery to win diversity votes, and I understand. But if she wins, the U.S. Middle East policy wouldn't dramatically change.
They'd just use middlemen. NATO is a willing tool.

There isn't much difference between the Biden, Obama, and Trump administration dealing with Israel. Israel got weapons under all three POTUS. And tactically protects Israel from the Hague too.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 2:35pm On Sep 23, 2024

raumdeuter:
It wasn't that straight forward with Assad cos Assad was keeping ISIS in check, So defeating Assad means ISIS will go on rampage

In retrospect, this is what Obama was inferring when he stated he regretted the interference in Libya.

A Gaddafi, a dictator regardless, would have halted or cushioned the incursion of ISIS into North Africa, through Niger and into West Africa. Like Assad, he would have been a necessary evil to stem the tide of the bigger evil.

There's also the fact that Russia and the U.S. still operate oil facilities in Syria till date and a stable greedy dictator would at least protect that interest.

plus Russia was actively supporting Assad

After Obama left was Trump for 4yrs and he let Assad use any means necessary to defeat the opponent and ISIS. By the time Biden got there, the war was already over. ISIS was already defeated

But ISIS isn't defeated. We've only mostly shifted our attention to Hezbollah, Israel and Hamas, while ISIS destroys with lesser media attention.
Subsets of ISIS joined with subsets of Boko Haram to create ISWAP which is more loyal to ISIS and battles Boko Haram for supremacy in the North of Nigeria, Chad, and Niger axis.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 2:27pm On Sep 23, 2024

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Lol... Many many reasons..

Maybe NATO Eastward expansion even against the understanding and agreement reached after the dissolution of USSR. There's no way the US will allow Mexico to host Russian short range missiles like the Iskander-M missiles not to talk about nukes.
The Breakdown of the MINSK agreement. Where NATO used almost a decade to arm Ukraine.
The same reason why Nelson Mandela supported Hamas/Palestine is the same reason I'm supporting an Independent state of Palestine.

PS: Over 140 countries of the world have recognized Palestine statehood. Even some EU/NATO countries have established diplomatic relations with Palestine.

Hamas isn't Palestine. Boko Haram isn't Northern Nigeria.

I didn't mention Palestine or Ukraine. I was specific.
Why do you support terror groups like Hamas and Hezbollah?
Why do you support communist propaganda?

I'm just trying to understand the rationale.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 2:21pm On Sep 23, 2024

raumdeuter:
Is the bold right or just that Assad had the support of Putin plus Trump decided that Assad is a lesser threat than ISIS

No. If the U.S. really wants a regime gone, it'd be gone. U.S. foreign policy changed after the mess that became the aftermath of the fall of Benghazi.
Biden is practically Obama's boy. If he wanted to, Assad would be gone.

The aftermath of Gaddafi made them realize a dictator is better than regional chaos.
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It's the same reason the coupists in Niger and others, and Rwanda's autocrat are being left alone. Better a dictator than regional instability.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 12:50pm On Sep 23, 2024

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Okay, I agree. I thought you were comparing them with Nigeria.
Thank you

Good. Now what's your justification for championing Russian and Communist propaganda, and pro-terror groups like Hamas and Hezbollah?

I'm not attacking you. I'm just curious.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 12:36pm On Sep 23, 2024

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Maybe you should start by listing the economic sanctions imposed on Nigeria.

I am agreeing with you. North Korea produces more electricity per capita than most countries, including Nigeria, Tunisia, and many Asian and Carribean countries. In spite of the sanctions.

The data rubbishes the claim that it's some 17-Century-esque place with only its capital having access to electricity. This much is published in many Western media outlets.

The point is, instead of engaging in whataboutism and positing your assertions, fall back on good ol' statistics from credible sources. Facts don't lie. It'd get the person you are arguing against to softpedal certain assertions and not try to lay them as facts.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 12:19pm On Sep 23, 2024

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Ooh.. I thought they all live in darkness according to GloriousD. How come they're computer literate?

Thank you.

If you are going to debate with those whose ideology oppose yours completely on issues being debated and there's palpable antagonism, lay your points with concrete facts.

Not for or against North Korea, but these are the facts

North Korea has a population of 27 million, and Nigeria 220 million.

It produces more than 8 times per capita electricity for its citizens than Nigeria currently does.

And given its population, North Korea produces more electricity than Tunisia and many countries. If you factor per capita, it is rated than some countries we rate highly.

1. https://www.worlddata.info/asia/north-korea/energy-consumption.php

2. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_electricity_production

If Nigeria has made the crazy ICT advancements we've done in spite of poor power supply, imagine what North Korea has done with better per capita power supply.

Facts outrank emotional arguments and assertions because facts are facts That's how to debate and state your points.

It's a dictatorship and it is a powerful force. Two truths can exist without negating each other.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 11:56am On Sep 23, 2024

donjazzet:
I'm a labour party member, I hope and pray we have a new national leader in 2027.

When I complain about Peter Obi, my disappointment comes from a place of someone who had soo much high hopes in the man and believed in him. His cowardice and weakness is killing any chance of changing the status quo in this country.
Obi has failed us and the labor party needs a new leader.

- What would you have Obi do? Pay thugs to match the thuggery?
- Lead a protest which would always take on a tribal hue?
- Ask the youth to take their country back through a revolution which would be interpreted as regime toppling and treason?
- Bribe the downtrodden to free themselves of their chains?
- Appoint State Electoral Commission and INEC members?
- Forcefully resign Appeal and Supreme Court judges?
- What would he do without actual elective power?
- Same country where a sitting Governor of Rivers State is being threatened by those close to the Presidency and nothing is happening?
- Where same Governor has been emasculated because he knows higher powers have overrun the architecture of the state he purportedly governs?

Didn't Atiku who is supposedly not a coward protest? What did it amount to?

My own vote for Obi hasn't counted till date. My lady's didn't too. We voted and he won our pulling units but only the returning officers' signatures were uploaded to the IREV.
What exactly could Obi have done to convince a people who ensured the brightest candidate on the ballot two days ago lost his freaking polling unit in exchange for peanuts from candidates with lesser integrity?

Pray tell, what should Obi do specifically?

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 11:26am On Sep 23, 2024

In the lead-up to the 2023 elections, people asked Frank Edoho and Mark Essien on Twitter and Facebook respectively to run for office because they are "intelligent young people with brilliant ideas". Both replied (and I paraphrase their replies):

" No. See what you people did to Banky W who is also intelligent, young and different. You want to disgrace me. You will leave me hanging at the polls and not stand by your words."

Olumide Akpata, the best and most forward-thinking candidate on the ballot on Saturday with the least baggage and who was most likely to play by the book, learnt this lesson the hard way. Another reference point for Messrs Edoho and Essien defending not foraying into elective politics.

You humiliated one of the brightest minds in the country last Saturday for #5,000/#10,000 and measures of rice because he couldn't match the pockets of those who looted our common patrimony.

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