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Max24:
You have 8years to be reminded of the failure of your Agulu hero and the smartness and success of the Tinubu you so much hated. Tinubu's monthly achievements will be there to torment you every day. Your hatred of Tinubu will teach you a lesson in life.

You want a team of national unity or from the two regions that really know how to play football? Make una dey do politics

Forget Akande now, do you insist on the 1999 constitution or you want it changed?

ednut1:
this man was a Governor, enjoyed the FAAC of 1999 constitution . When did he do with it He should rest abeg.

With all the sharing formula why did Adaka boro say this The resources will always come from a particular part if the regions and not all. People will still complain

The 1960 constitution requires that regions keeps 50% of their resources, contribute 20% to run the federal government and contribute 30% to a common purse thats shared among all regions. Now replace regions with states, does this satisfy you or you insist on the 1999 constitution?

ednut1:
you lie. The money federal government gets from those highly productive states are used to subsidize other less productive ones.

These countries you mentioned practice true federalism. The money from Texas, NY does not run other states. The money from British Columbia does not run Saskatchewan.

ednut1:
in almost every developed nation from Germany to Canada to Uk to US . Only few states or provinces are productive. The rest of the country depends on money from government. California ,NY and Texas make up majority of USA GDP, In Canada its Ontario, British columbia , Alberta and Quebec, in Uk its london , in Germany its bavaria region. How come competition has not developed the poor regions there

So can competition improve the gdp of the guys here 🤣

Tinubu controls this rubber stamp Akpabio assembly 100%

Shikena:
Restructuring is not in the hands of any president. He does not have that power. That can only be done by the National Assembly.

I nor know wetin Nigeria dey play sef

Fhowe:
equatorial guinea wey no reach 2 million for population some local government in lagos have more population than this equatorial guinea na wa.Na them hold super chickens for work

Wetin Nigeria dey play sef?

Now that you've explained what you want, what makes you think, I as an Igbo man don't want the split?

Have a good day!

epainos:
You are different from me. I am not interested in your fault findings. All politicians are thieves, and I don't have any regard for them.

Moreso, in most of my posts, I have said that the only reason the people in this present Nigeria will prosper is to split. And I pray that Tinubu should make so many mistakes beyond repairs that everyone should go manage his nation.

My comments are not tribalistic. I don't care who is the president. I am not interested in whatever he does. My own is that God should make him make mistakes so that everyone can mount pressure on him.. and we can split Nigeria. And a way is that he should borrow money that we cannot pay back ...or just make a mistake that everyone will say...enough, we want to split.

So...I am not interested in the angle you want to pick.

I have said what I want to say, and it's enough.

Have a lovely Sunday!

Another military constitution? What about the 1963 constitution? It can be reviewd to reflect Nigeria of today or even the 2014 confab ?

worksmart:
1960 is 64 years ago!

That won't be very relevant in today's Nigeria besides it is a constitution drawn up by colonialists.

Better to adopt the 1995 draft constitution of the Abacha regime .

Its not perfect but corruption is not the major thing holding us down. Its lack of competition among states because resources are shared from the center, so states can be unproductive and still survive.

In the 1960 constitution, yoj can't survive if you're unproductive

ednut1:
keep consoling yourself self. There was corruption in the first republic like Nzeogwu confirmed in his interview ( its on YouTube). Bribes and kickbacks for contracts were rampant, nepotism and favouritism was there. Leave story abeg

You're emotional and fail to see the deceit of Akande calling the NASS instead of calling his ftiend Tinubu who controls NASS.

You cannot mount pressure on a president that's not willing.

Obj did not restructure, Tinubu has not mentioned restructuring since he was rigged in. In essence, the westerners are pretending to want restructuring

epainos:
Keep asking foolish a question. You will travel to Aso Rock and ask Tinubu why he is not doing it. Am I Tinubu?

If there is an opportunity for us to make Tinubu do it, we should take it. We should demand it. This is my take.

So, carry your foolish question and go meet Tinubu. All I want is the right thing to be done. Whether it is an ibo, Yoruba, Hausa or Fulani there. If we agree to mount pressure on Tinubu, I am for it.

So, get lost with your tribalistic way of life. You are a perfect example of it. People like you will NEVER make Nigeria progressive. It is why I don't need to be in the same nation with you.

Feel free to ask your foolish question again.

You cannot answer a simple question

Max24:
Without meeting Tinubu in person I have been a beneficiary of his vision of substantial appreciation of real estate development along the Lekki axis. So, I am a first hand beneficiary of his ideas in Lagos. I know how to key in into smart leaders visionary ideas like Tinubu is.

What is stopping Tinubu now? He controls NASS 100%

DomPerignon:
The only people south of the Nigeria that have consistently stood against resource control has been the Ibos.

Even the VAT ruling secured by Rivers and Lagos was met with silence from your region.

Since 1999, Ibo legislators have consistently stood with northerners to block any discussion on resource control for states with the Niger Delta oil resource agitation under Obasanjo demanding for 25% opposed under the gimmick of third term.

Ibo legislators stood alongside the north over the offshore/onshore dichotomy which was only settled by a supreme court ruling .

From this thread we can all see how you all oppose any talk of restructuring by hiding under senseless excuses after the other.

How will you know its perfect without otbers to compare it to?

Why cant we go back?

You can't keep traveling on a wrong road because you've gone far, you'll never get to your destination

Obierika:
Foolishness has been running in your family for generations!

If you people knew that 1960 constitution was so perfect then why did you change it in the first instance?!

One person talked about Aburi accord and you used him to represent Igbos?

You're trying to push a narrative, just looking for excuse to do that

DomPerignon:
From comments from you Ibos here on this thread , we can see how you are all against any talk of restructuring.

I have been saying it here forever that the last people in Nigeria to agree on restructuring is the Ibo man.

Your position since Ironsi announced decree 34 has been always towards a powerful central government.

Obi kicked against restructuring during his campaign and said it was down to what he said was bad leadership .


You are singling my post out despite me responding to your fellow Ibo who blamed Aburi accord collapse for all our woes.

That post was the major distraction and deflection which I needed to correct and highlight that since 1999 , any talk of even resource control for states has been opposed by your Ibo legislators.

The fact remains that the Ibo will be the last to see Nigeria return to her original constitutional template as your ambitions are to rule and dominate the polity from the centre.

Name just one Ibo man who has called for constitutional amendment back to pre Ironsi . Just one !

Protip: you can't because no Ibo man has ever raised the issue of restructuring .

It is either Biafra or an Ibo presidency.

You fool no one

You know if we're to go back, it will not be Aburi accord but you actually do not care what Akande said or even wanna go back. You'd rather look at what Igbos are saying and choose the opposite. If Igbos choose the 1960 constitution, you'd insist on the 1999 constitution

blancsn1:
Nope I am only letting you know ahead that Aburi is not acceptable to Yorubas because we were never represented so you ipob should stop talking about it in all it entirety.

These are inprocess measures. What are the output measures? Have the improved?

The woman on the street was buying petrol at 195 before Tinubu, she is buying it 660 now. She was buying rice about 45k but buying it 60k now. People are being killed or kidnap even upto Abuja now.

Our poverty has increased and you're talking of more naira to the governors who value has fallen by almost 300%?

You're just a praise singer

kunle4toyeyaho:
So,increase in monthly allocation for executing developmental project is not an index for development? Fixing of PH refinery to avoid wastage of FX and strengthening our Naira is not an index of development ? PBAT is not perfect but he's getting some things right.

You're using too many words to runaway from the truth.

I ask you a simple question, what is stopping Tinubu from pushing for restructuring? GEJ atleast did a confab for restructuring

epainos:
Akande is an example....and if it was a Hausa who said it...the Yoruba man would tell his people the same.

Oga... you are a solid example of tribalism.
That Yoruba man is what you saw...this is why I said that tribalism is the root problem of Nigeria. You are a perfect example..


Who are the westerners? So, are you blind that restructuring is the way out? Is Justice Oputa also a Westerner? Lol. I am sure you don't know him...so there is no need to go more into it.

I am not aware of Tinubu wanting more LGAs, but this is the normal tactic of governors. Even this was the same reason everyone demanded more states and IBB gave everyone more. Lol. And this is what killed Ibo. After giving them 6 states, he gave them the SE region and cut off other places they used to control and called the SS. Lol.

Creating more states is not restructuring. Creating more states means you want an income from the central government in Abuja. But restructuring is cutting out Abuja...and each region controls its resources. They are not the same but opposite of each other.

Go to school...go learn. Just don't dabble into topics you don't know and attack people anyhow. You will only injure yourself.

Good luck!

Tinubu even had problem with Obj because he wanted to restructure Lagos.

The West have be shouting restructuring since the 1990s.

Tinubu controls the national assembly 100% so if he is unable to restructure, it means he has been pretending all along and using restructuring just to fight previous govt.

There's nobody or institution stopping him from restructuring

madridguy:
People benefiting from the 1999 constitution will not wat it abolished.

The 1999 Constitution enables useless leaders to be selected. It would be difficult for useless leaders to come through the 1960 Constitution because there's no sharing from the center but contribution from the regions to run the center. A useless regional or state leader cannot generate enough resources to run the state, how much more contributing to run the center. A useless leader will not survive six months

ednut1:
both constitutions under the useless set of leaders and elite we have. Same results

The constitution is meant for man and not man for the constitution.

Why do you love the 1999 constitution?

Bluntemperor:
But was he not amongst the Politicians then,or was he not even a governor?
Why is it that when Politicians have enjoyed their times and rested they now start to tell other NIGERIANS- this is how to go about this!
What were they doing when they were there as leaders at that time?
This is Political deceitfulness that have no remedy!
If the National Assembly have A Constitution, they all swore to,can they be the one to desolved the same Constitution?

Its not by force to be together. The two countries of Nigeria and Biafra would have made progress since 1967 as separate countries.

Together, we have only retrogressed

aswani:
Thank you so much for your excellent post, we should all come to Nairaland to learn or disseminate useful information. You have played your part, hopefully others can.

To further your point, Gowon didn't sufficiently arm the midwest despite pleadings by Ejoor because he didn't want to give Ojukwu an excuse to start something because there was effectively a standing army ready for battle on his doorstep.

Of course Ikemba went ahead and invaded anyway and then completely lost the plot in proceeding towards Lagos.

Gowon treated Ojukwu with kid gloves, a quick, strong and effective clamp down would have stopped the war ever happening. I understand why he did it though, he expected Ojukwu to ignore the hawks in the Biafran cabinet spoiling for an unwinnable war.

So you mean Akande is the first person that has said we should restructure or go back to the 1960 constitution?

The westerners have been pushing for restructuring since the 1990s infact Tinubu had problems with Obj while he was governor because he was trying to create more LGAs for Lagos. Tinubu is president now, let him do the restructuring he has been fighting others for

epainos:
I agree with Akande; however, the monster we need to first defeat is tribalism because it is the reason they will not want that 1960 constitution. Those people who don't want to embrace this suggestion will go back to their people and say that it is the Yoruba man who wants to use it for the benefit of themselves. As soon as those illiterate Hausa and Fulani hear it, they will not allow it. This is our problem. Remove tribalism and we will be fine. But can we do it? Nope. The best option is that Nigeria should split. Let us return to that 1960 era whereby each region controls its wealth. Let each region start paying its legislatures. See...they won't teach them to make the job non-lucrative anymore. Shikena.

I'm sure you don't care about the 1960 or 1963 constitution. You're looking for tribal banters obviously.

blancsn1:
Who and who made the Aburi accord
So Yoruba will allow a foolish Ojukwu n Yakubu both military to decide their fate or you are just trying to be senseless ?

Bisi Akande is APC, Amoda is APC, national Assembly is dominated and led by APC.

Can you see that APC is not willing to restructure but pretending?

Can't you see the APC scam?

aspabay:
Stop sounding like a broken record. This thread is not for unintelligents like you. Wait for thread on Tonto Dike

Are you kidding me right now? Akande need access to see Tinubu his 5 & 6?

Does Tinubu need someone to convince him on restructuring?

chiefolododo:
Baba Akande is an elder statesman...he was a great governor,though he made some mistakes...Tinubu ought to listen to someone like him ...but some cabals don't give Baba access to Tinubu

Tell me one indices of development that has increased and you're talking things that does not concern the woman on the street!

Has our debt increase since he came in? Yes!
by over 7 trillion and you're here practicing idolatry

kunle4toyeyaho:
-He has been running the country without tampering with foreign reserve. This is unprecedented ( This arose due to his decision not to defend Naira with our external reserve)
- The monthly allocation to the 3 tiers of government has geometrically increased ( Ask your Governor how much your state earns at the moment)
- Fixing of PH refinery
- payments of all contractors owed by immediate past govt
- N12b owed in sport sector by successive govt. has been offset
- Bringing sanity into the banking sector is another great achievement of PBAT's govt.

You guys will not let go of your tribalism and hatred? You're undermining Seun's effort to clean nairaland

truthfinder319:
Best advice but chidren of hate won't like it because it is not an advice from a mad man (in Pandora's voice)

Why do you love the 1999 constitution?

ednut1:
After becoming governor under the 1999 constitution 🤣🤣. Daddy wa abeg rest

They can review the 1960 or 1963 constitution.

The 1999 constitution did not come from the people so cannot be accepted by the people

flokii:
They can as well review and update the constitution.. 1960 laws can't and won't work in 2024. The gap is too much and things have changed.

Let them call for a national conference or referendum or whatever and allow ethnic groups make input on changes they want effected in the constitution.