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Joey150, answer this:

DoctorAlien:
Joey150, explain purgatory in the light of these verses:

"But this man, after He had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of GOD;" Heb. 10:12

"For by one offering He hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified." Heb. 10:14

"And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin." Heb. 10:17-18

"Christ also died for sins once and for all" 1 Pet. 3:18

Ubenedictus:
So u agree with the albigensis that d old testament was written by d devil and dat he created ur body, Do u perform consolametum with them?

The next time u identify wit heretics try to read abt them

Who gave the catholic church the right to perpetrate the abominable evil they did in the dark ages?

joey150:
i was the one that put this verse to you.. how then can you now be the one asking the question??

scared to answer??

Okay. I don't know what's happening in the passage. I came to learn.

Can you now explain to me? Who is the adversary?

Ubenedictus:
OH, i can do better, i can give u a pasage that says the the entire mosaic law is obsolate, wat do u say?

Please show me.

joey150:
in the context that he was teaching of heaven..who do you think?

I asked you the question: who is the adversary in the passage?

joey150:
Matthew: 5. 25. Be at agreement with thy adversary betimes, whilst thou art in the way with him: lest perhaps the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison. 26. Amen I say to thee, thou shalt not go out from thence till thou repay the last farthing. - keep in mind that is the sermon on the mount. where Jesus taught about heaven

In this passage, who is the adversary?

Joey150, explain purgatory in the light of these verses:

"But this man, after He had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of GOD;" Heb. 10:12

"For by one offering He hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified." Heb. 10:14

"And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin." Heb. 10:17-18

"Christ also died for sins once and for all" 1 Pet. 3:18

Syncan:
Hahaha, for two thousand years, Catholics spread the good news, won souls for Christ, from atheists and Pagans of different nations including your fore fathers. They laid their lives for it, they were eating by wild beasts, crucified, drowned, burnt, yet they preached on Christ crucified. They Collected, selected and canonized a list of books into one book, to help them propagate this Christianity. Whoever you call your champion in whatever supposed Christianity you practice, learned about Christ from the Catholic Church.

You mean for more than a millenium, the catholic church was busy persecuting the saints of GOD? Killing the Waldensians and the Albigenses who stood for Scriptural truth? Hunting down and killing and maiming anyone that dared oppose their abominable teachings? Killing untold millions by the fire of inquisiton and trying to remove the light of GOD's word from the people?

Nevertheless, the light of GOD's word can never be hidden.

Joey150, is Jesus command in Matt. 5:48 impossible?

Did David go to purgatory?

Nothing unclean shall enter Heaven: is the blood of Jesus not enough to make one fit for Heaven?

If the only group that will be in Heaven are those who washed their robes in the blood of the Lamb, where is purgatory in the picture?

The lies and fables of men are not profitable for doctrine.

"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:" 2 Tim. 3:16

joey150:
so are we on the same part thay traditions where indeed handed down to them? Traditions outside the scriptures? Yes or no!

"His divine power has given us EVERYTHING we need for a godly life..." 2 Pet. 1:3

All you need to make Heaven is in the Bible. It has been given unto you!

You don't need lies and fables of men to make Heaven. The Bible is enough.

joey150:
but you clearly are not. If you did, you would answer simple questions and admit to or deny some facts so i know where your stand is.

You just go picking up verses like the whole bible should be tied to purgatory. I quoted you in one. You couldnt find a fault there. You have since ignored it and moved on to picking up random verses...

Dont you see i get what you are doing. Am seriously enjoying your merry go round. But dont deceive yourself that you came here to learn...
The intent is very clear. As always.. You are welcomed bro.

The Christians were instructed to hold on to traditions handed down to them: was purgatory one of them?

Syncan:
Banned by antispambot till tomorrow, it's your post I quoted o.

Ha! I'm sorry o

joey150:
answer the question i asked you earlier. I am getting fatigued at this our merry go round.

They are not dead in christ,that is why theu are heaven bound.. Look i quoted you in a post..go and read and understand.
You seem to be all over asking random questions.. Same question worded differently.

I also asked you if you believed that the apostles taught traditions earlier. You since ignored it.
If you cannot answer my very simple questions after i have painstakingly taken my time to answer a ton of yours. What then is the whole essence??

But I opened the thread to learn. Didn't I?

Syncan:
Everybody will pass through judgement.
1. Some will go to heaven direct. 1cor3:14
2.Some will pass through purgatory before entering heaven. 1Cor3:15.
3.Some will go to hellfire. 1cor3:17

If everybody will pass through judgment, how come judgment was given unto the saints (Dan. 7:22)?

If everybody will go through judgment, how come the saints will judge the world and angels? (1 Cor. 6:2-3)

Joey150, you talked about some people that "die in grace". Are they dead in Christ?

Syncan:
Everybody will pass through judgement.
1. Some will go to heaven direct. 1cor3:14
2.Some will pass through purgatory before entering heaven. 1Cor3:15.
3.Some will go to hellfire. 1cor3:17

Read 1 Thess. 4:16-17. Does it imply that the righteous shall pass through judgment?

Indeed, "Every plant, which My Heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up" Matt. 15:13

joey150:
yes it is. I cannot dignify that question with a response sadly. I think it is a cheap attempt to make me say something that you'll hurriedly go and dig the bible and bring a very unrelated verse to.


Funny enough that was the same thing the pharisees always tried to trick Jesus with. Getting him to fault ome of their laws in the scripture.

I thought you opened this thread to enlighten people about purgatory, eh?

Tell me, when and where will purgatory take place?

joey150:
stop been petty here.

Am I being petty by trying to know the truth?

Joey150, when and where will purgatory take place?

Syncan:
For those who will be saved, yet so as by fire. 1Cor3:15.

So, everybody will be judged to see who deserves Heaven or not, and then those who don't deserve Heaven will be sent to purgatory. Who will suffer hell?

Syncan:
Moses is one of the patriarchs, he waited for Christ to come and redeem mankind and open heaven. Jesus opened their prison gates after his death.

So Moses was in prison and Jesus opened his prison?

Syncan:
Those who will experience it shall, after their individual judgement once they leave this earth.

So, according to you, Moses will be judged to see if he deserves purgatory?

Syncan:
Those who will experience it shall, after their individual judgement once they leave this earth.

So, according to you, after judgment, purgatory?

Syncan:
The great tribulation is not purgatory. Purgatory is not experienced on earth.

Where and when is it experienced?

joey150:
i was making reference to that same verse. i know of the blood of the lamb.
so why do you think that the great tribulation cannot then mean purgatory?

Since there will only be one group in Heaven: those who washed their robes in the blood of the lamb, where is purgatory in the picture?

If you say the great tribulation is purgatory, when did/does it take place? Will somebody like Moses go to this purgatory too?

If you say the great tribulation is purgatory, it then means that everybody in Heaven must have passed through purgatory (because all of them came through great tribulation).

This counters the point you made earlier that not everybody will go to purgatory. Explain.

It's really funny how much people are willing to distort the Word of GOD to suit the lies they have chosen to believe.

joey150:
i was making reference to that same verse. i know of the blood of the lamb.
so why do you think that the great tribulation cannot then mean purgatory? since we are making up cheap excuses here.

I'm sorry but if you think you are here to make cheap excuses, then you're alone on that.

So, the great tribulation is now purgatory?

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joey150:
did the bible state where they washed their robes or the great tribulation in that verse? so how then did you logically rule out the possibility that it cannot be purgatory?

Yes: in the blood of the lamb.

Their robes were not washed in the purgatory.