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nihilistjnr:
APC support groups to Tinubu:

Pardon me sir, but can you please advise me on the current location of my expected revenue?

Humor me please, I'm interested in knowing what's going on concerning UK politics. I saw that the labor are on track to win the next UK generals but do you think, from observation that they can pull this off or are they really looking worse than the Tories?

BlueRayDick:
Omo! Governor Akeredolu is really going through a lot with his health challenge o 😢

Finally ehh, money is not all and all. E just get sickness wey go hold you. Even money cannot help. Chai.

liveLongNprospa:
How can this even be up for debate?
How?

That guy is wicked, plain and simple.

And you Putin retards might look at Ukraine and say "well, they're already helping Ukraine and Ukraine hasn't won". Well note that almost all these powerful economies currently have their defense budget under 2% of their entire budget. I shudder to think what a war economy will look like when they commit 40% of over 15 trillion dollars to war. And mind you, china wouldn't support Russia in full war because china itself is heavily dependent on the collective west. A war will ruin china's economy more than any other.

Masterviolence:
The other questions to ask is: will NATO be able to win a war against Russia?

Russia will be annihilated within a day if it dared went to war with the entirety of NATO. There is no single doubt about this.

The fact is that on this Ukraine saga, the west themselves are dragging their feet alone because they are doing everything possible not to over-escalate this issue further. Not because of fear of Russia but a lack of appetite for war. The collective west are championing a more peaceful world where less people have to die over unnecessary things.

But know this, Russia in a direct war against an alliance of America, Germany, France, UK and Italy, all multi-trillion dollar economies and global-world leaders is one that Russia can never win.

Putin will be defeated in Ukraine!

That is a fact!!
My anger is the fact that the Europeans are still dragging their feet. They need to ramp up their military production far more quickly.

@dvcot

donjazzet:
Ask yourself this, does 2 wrongs make a right??

US was very very very very wrong to have invaded Iraq. And guess what, the US itself knows that it was wrong, the Iraq war was a hot button issue in US democratic primaries whereby candidates who supported the war were punished by voters.

Obama has acknowledged that US were wrong in that war, trump has acknowledged and criticized the war. Same thing with Afghanistan where the US has acknowledged it's mistake of foreign policy and withdrawn even at the cost of severe damages done.
(And let's try to pretend 9\11 didn't have any impact in US going to some of these wars)

But what we as neutrals in this have to do is ensure that these kinds of illegal invasions and occupations stop happening once and for all.

That US invaded and killed thousands of people in a foreign land is not justification for another to go and do the same. If not, where does that cycle end?? India against Pakistan? China against Taiwan? Israel against Palestine? Nigeria against Cameroon? Where do we draw the line in countries invading other sovereign nations?

As it stands now, the populace of the western world are completely fed up with the wars of it's own countries and have no appetite for them. They are their own loudest critics. (Same can't be said for Russia and china).
It's this simple. For all the talks about US and Cuba, or US and any other neighbor like Venezuela whom are aggressive towards them, the US has not attempted to invade any of them in at least 70 years. So this argument of an (aggressive neighbor) doesn't stand.

The war for oil is essentially over as the western world themselves are championing a world away from oil for climate concerns.

If we here are all genuinely good people, then we would realize that we cannot be condemning the evil wars of the US of the past and then be cheering on another terrible and costly invasion. That's hypocrisy on our parts. You can't claim to be outraged by the US wars and then turn around and support another terrible war. War must be condemned.

If the US invades any country today again, you bet that there would be a much more viseral anger at them. Even their own population would turn against any such governments that attempts that today.

So please, let us stop using the past to justify the present evil. Let us move forward together in a world of peace where no one has to invade the sovereignty of a nation. My 2 cents.

Gbadebo19:
Nigeria receives Canada's 9.2 million dollars covid 19 grant:
https://www.nairaland.com/7771384/fg-receives-canadas-9.2m-covid-19/1

Anything from Russia?
Bunch of fools

Meanwhile Russian military via Wagner group is unleashing hell across Africa. Killing fellow Africans in millions.

Russia is essentially carrying out genocide across the African continent. These Putin retards aren't seeing this to condemn.

dvkot:
the hypocrisy of the west is too annoying, this is the stupid country that their former prime minister (Tony Blair) admitted to invading a country and killing several civilians on false information yet the idiot was not arrested neither was uk sanctioned. Do you see the blatant hypocrisy and arrogance of these guys?
And yet one cassava brain wants me to support the west? To hell will everyone who support the west. Shame on you all

Ask yourself this, does 2 wrongs make a right??

US was very very very very wrong to have invaded Iraq. And guess what, the US itself knows that it was wrong, the Iraq war was a hot button issue in US democratic primaries whereby candidates who supported the war were punished by voters.

Obama has acknowledged that US were wrong in that war, trump has acknowledged and criticized the war. Same thing with Afghanistan where the US has acknowledged it's mistake of foreign policy and withdrawn even at the cost of severe damages done.
(And let's try to pretend 9\11 didn't have any impact in US going to some of these wars)

But what we as neutrals in this have to do is ensure that these kinds of illegal invasions and occupations stop happening once and for all.

That US invaded and killed thousands of people in a foreign land is not justification for another to go and do the same. If not, where does that cycle end?? India against Pakistan? China against Taiwan? Israel against Palestine? Nigeria against Cameroon? Where do we draw the line in countries invading other sovereign nations?

As it stands now, the populace of the western world are completely fed up with the wars of it's own countries and have no appetite for them. They are their own loudest critics. (Same can't be said for Russia and china).
It's this simple. For all the talks about US and Cuba, or US and any other neighbor like Venezuela whom are aggressive towards them, the US has not attempted to invade any of them in at least 70 years. So this argument of an (aggressive neighbor) doesn't stand.

The war for oil is essentially over as the western world themselves are championing a world away from oil for climate concerns.

If we here are all genuinely good people, then we would realize that we cannot be condemning the evil wars of the US of the past and then be cheering on another terrible and costly invasion. That's hypocrisy on our parts. You can't claim to be outraged by the US wars and then turn around and support another terrible war. War must be condemned.

If the US invades any country today again, you bet that there would be a much more viseral anger at them. Even their own population would turn against any such governments that attempts that today.

So please, let us stop using the past to justify the present evil. Let us move forward together in a world of peace where no one has to invade the sovereignty of a nation. My 2 cents.

Watcharena:
I noticed that those that are neutral or sympathizing with Russia don't normally throw abuses any how here ,but the same can not be said with those supporting or siding with the west.

You are of course being biased.
Both sides, the Patriots of global democracy and then the brainwashed victims of propaganda by targeted misinformation throw insults around.

I remember the day someone here said, there shouldn't be insults when making points, I agreed to that and gave my counter opinions on the points he raised only for him to reply and call me stupid in his very first sentence.

I am ready to dialogue with anyone without exchanging insults only if the other side abodes by that. Then we can get to undoing the brainwashing you guys have consumed from Russian and Chinese propaganda.

My fellow liberals, budatuum, ibime, feedthenation, wirinet, amazontopaz etc.

I really need you guys input on this.

What do you guys think of transgenderism?

I am a liberal at heart, I believe in a world of tolerance for all that different from me. I want progressive change in the society and dread the effects of the hard right however on this issue of transgenderism, I am really torn on this issue.

What causes transgenderism, are you guys in support of them? What about children who claim or "feel" that they are trans. Should teenage puberty blockers be allowed? Should their natural growth be distorted based on how they feel?

I saw this thread I'm posting below and I felt a lot of dread. Should anyone really pass through this? Should transgenders really truly have a highlighted role in the society worthy of emulation?? Guys help me out here.

I don't want to sound like a hateful conservative who doesn't care about the comfort and role of others in society but I need to know how liberals truly feel about this issue of transgenderism.

See what these people undergo to become trans. Should this be encouraged?

https://www.nairaland.com/7717769/part-woke-culture-dont-talk

Please, no conservative should quote or reply me. I already know what your opinions are. I'm asking other liberals

andrewbaba44:
People wey vote tinubu hope you all are happy sha

Who did you vote for?

Putin has already failed in all his main goals.

Gbadebo19:
Pepper dem, Bolanle pepper dem oooo

You are really peppering them.

Brainwashed propaganda zombies that have allowed their heads to be filled with rubbish..

THeY hAtE ThE WesT! But they keep enjoying the benefits of a relatively peaceful society created by the west. An all encompassing and tolerant society shaped by the west. They choose to align with ruthless dictators simply because they are "anti-west" but they dread living in those countries. Shameless pigs they all are.

dvkot:
I keep hearing Russia is weak and has been demilitarised, still yet the west cannot send Ukraine long range missile or better jets so it can strike into Russia, what are they afraid of?

No single country has the appetite for large scale war. They are simply trying to contain Putin's madness. But they have given him their only redline.

PUTIN, MAKE SURE NOTHING NUCLEAR IS USED!!

The minute Putin uses anything nuclear, Russia is immediately reduced to dust. China and India will immediately withdraw their tacit "neutrality".

Hamxas:
I think this answered u

No going back.. Grain deal is off hunger for Europe loading

Nahh, Europe will be fine. Funny enough, it's us underdeveloped countries that would suffer this more.

European countries had already banned Ukraine grains long ago in order to protect their own grain farmers. Blocking Ukraine grains will see the price of grains on the market rise of which those European countries already have grains and the one's that don't have grains have the money to buy at the price while the African countries suffer.

Gbadebo19:

Putin the blackmailer put forward some of his demands to return to the grain deal:

➡️ operational restart of the ammonia (and other chemical materials) pipeline between Tolyatti-Odesa
➡️ reconnect Russian financial organizations to SWIFT (serving grain deal)

The second demand particularly made me laugh. I thought they said they were developing another one apart from SWIFT that will rely on one nonsense blockchain technology.

Russian propangandists still won't learn.

Watch video here and have hypertension:

Putin the blackmailer put forward some of his demands to return to the grain deal:

➡️ operational restart of the ammonia (and other chemical materials) pipeline between Tolyatti-Odesa
➡️ reconnect Russian financial organizations to SWIFT (serving grain deal)

He can forget it. pic.twitter.com/FdQslL1Rdk

— NOELREPORTS 🇪🇺 🇺🇦 (@NOELreports) July 19, 2023

Putin is just an empty barrel that makes a lot of noise.
World leaders have ostracized him from the international stage. He holds no value anymore. We're simply counting down to the end of his days.

Shaytun:
That’s not how economics work brother, stop rushing to convert things.

A bottle of Pepsi cost around $3 in US which is around 2,250 naira.

That same Pepsi cost just 250 naira in Nigeria .

How many bottles of Pepsi can a Nigerian earning minimum wage of 30,000 buy compared to an American minimum wage?

You are telling a very big lie right there.

I just asked my friend in America via WhatsApp and he told me that the normal nigerian sized bottled Pepsi or coke is not even up to 1 dollar. It's only the ones in much bigger sized bottles that go above 1 dollar and that those sizes are not sold in Nigeria.

Even google would show you this below.
You don't need to lie to buttress your point while supporting this heartless government.

Regex:
If you ask me eh, I'd say Russia saw that submarine that blew up the crimean bridge before it did it and decided to allow it. They saw it from afar and prepared their counter offensive. Cause you can't tell me they came up with a consequence this huge over night. Putin is a strategist, now what he is doing now is to pit EU against USA, two countries are bound to bite the bait. France and Germany.

You guys are just absolutely deluded.

You call Putin a "strategist" but this same "strategist" has already failed in his original sole mission which was to swiftly conquer Ukraine the way he illegally did in Crimea, Georgia, Chechnya.

Putin is a big fool who has been ostracized globally. A wanted criminal that can no longer leave Russia lest he's arrested.

Gbadebo19:
Your father is a dog.
You can't resist correct information and the truth. It will always disturb you. The more you try to ignore it, the more your mind gets unrest.
You are even so scared of quoting me directly, i believe you already know the line i will use for you.

That's it. They are just brainwashed zombies whose head has been filled with anti-western propaganda that they can't reason intellectually again.

Fvcking zombies they all are. My own happiness is knowing that Russia will never triumph in this. Russia is now an international pariah. Putin is rejected internationally.

We will be here to see the lamentations of these Putin retards when Putin is finally humiliated ultimately.

I only dread for the amount of money Russia is going to pay in reparations when they lose in Ukraine.

Ukraine successfully repels Russia's offensive yesterday.

WriteerNig:
Edward Snowden too

Revealing classified information is what no government on this earth will tolerate, not even the smallest government. It's for national security reasons even though you and I may not agree with what kind of information should be classified.

Now apart from that, I'm talking about government imposed censorship on all its citizens. The desire to clamp down on any kind of opposition to government. Is that what you want or like to see?

So why supporting such governments?

Some people say Hollywood is "propaganda". But I don't see them stopping themselves enjoying the so-called "propaganda". Maybe game of thrones, blacklist, how to get away with murder, suits, the boys, peaky blinders are all propaganda.

You are a hypocrite if you're enjoying Netflix, HBO American movies while decrying them as propaganda.

You can't eat your cake and have it back.

You guys will support just about every Evil regime on earth so far as the person is anti-west.

Very hypocritical fools.

The west is the only democratic region where all and sundry from allover the world can move to and have equal opportunities for all.

You enter the western region an economic refugee and you live to see your children become multi-millioniares and political leaders. Shaping the direction of these countries.

Show me where that happens in authoritarian china and Russia.

The USA is certainly the best world power anyone could have wished for.

You need to have your head checked if you are supporting an evil dictator like Putin, ayatollah of Iran and china.

Look at China, the richest billionaire jack ma has basically been silenced by the government and his company basically stripped from him because he dared to complain against the government. Has such ever happened to Elon musk, bill gates and the likes before?

These people censor their citizens and control the flow of information unlike US and other democracies where the citizens can source for information from wherever they like, of you don't like CNN or fox, well, there is Rogan or newsmax or 4chan or whatever conspiratorial hell hole you want unfiltered and unverified information from. You will not be punished for seeking any unclassified information.

Theflint1:
It could also be argued that it's why standing on principles is more important than having positions vacillate based on who's expressing an opinion. Raumdeuter that's today saying subsidy removal is the best thing since sliced bread was then arguing that the removal was ill-timed, even though the economic conditions were better then than they are today.
The BAT that removed the subsidy today then wrote an essay that is just as relevant today as it was then, but because he was looking to get power in 11 or so year's time, he played an active role in Nigeria pissing away its opportunity to remove subsidy removal.

As I've just said, NEVER expect objectivity from dayo as far as politics is concerned. The tribal bias is extreme.

Blueray has posted here before how dayo himself was vehemently against subsidy removal under Jonathan.

Today he has changed mouth because his person has said the same.

When you catch dayo in contradiction of himself, he smiles and deflects as to how it shows that he's smart in making any side of an argument. It's all about winning an argument even though lives are involved.
Tufia!

BlueRayDick:
I rest my case!

These are the things I saw when I always attacked his political submissions.

As far as politics is concerned, dayo can NEVER be objective.

The bias is too strong. I went hard on him because of this insensitivity to our plight especially coming from his lofty position far away but you guys kept shouting me down.

Enjoy his insensitivity and braggadocio in the face of our suffering. You guys laid down this bed for him. Enjoy it.

Seun:
It's been a pleasure serving all of you since 2005!

Seun your birthday gift to me should be unbanning my main account of 10 years. The moniker is "donjazet". Please seun. I'm begging.

Imagine deluding yourself soo much as to call a murderous tyrant like Putin a "gentleman".

Man, some of you have been soo brainwashed by Russian propaganda and anti-western propaganda that you guys can't think straight again..

Putin that has willfully murdered millions of people in Ukraine and turned their lives upside down.

I pray that you guys get to experience the horrors of the Ukrainians someday In your life.