₦airaland Forum

emperorchedda:
Is it okay for Mummy to say something wrong always? you keep jumping on every opportunity to mention people's mums not knowing some mum's have a high level of home training and don't provoke people

Brugge:
Let me point out something that might interest you, did you know that research has shown that the best way to create employment is through small scale business? The call for big manufacturing companies and industries may not necessarily be what we need in our country now. If you have time, try and look up the Israeli business model and you will realized the story behind their economic stories is not massive industrialization or the setting up of huge 'capitalist' companies.

Brugge:
The only problem I see here is that you have a deep rooted bias one which am not sure how it comes about and which am not anyway in a position to query now. You made mention of Iyalojas and Babalojas and how much money they have and this clearly shows that you suffer from the same problem you accused the writer of - not being fully informed of other ethnic groups.

To be honest the only tribe in Nigeria that have a good view on how things work in every other divide of the country are the Igbos, because they have lived and still lived in virtually in almost every community you can think of and I think that gives them a pretty robust view of the cultural differences and happenings. The Yorubas on their part travel a lot but unfortunately outside the shores of Nigeria which leaves many of them with the half-truth of how a typical Igbo tradition/community works, based on their knowledge of pseudo-igbo tradition they come across in Lagos. The worst part is they cling to that and believe that that is how it is and that is how it works down there in the East.

I have spend considerable number of years in the West, North and East and I can tell you based on first hand experience how these different people function in their natural 'habitat' which is way different from how the average Hausa community in Ama-Hausa Owerri function and also how the Yoruba community in London functions. The problem with basing your argument on the behavior of 'these' set of people in an 'alien' community is that you do not get to see them exhibit their true traits like in their original abode.

You many be aware of the people you mentioned in Lagos but you are not aware of very rich business men in ladipo and co who chose not to spend millions in sending their kids abroad or choose not to express their wealth like the Iyaloja, not brandishing their wealth in Lagos or anywhere else does not mean they are not rich just that they are not either flamboyant enough to have captured your attention or that they run in a circle different from yours.

You have never lived amongst them in Onitsha or Nnewi or those that have hundreds of millions in business in Sabo Gari or Monday market in Maiduguri and else where. I am not saying that the Igbo business men are richer than the Yoruba business women/men, but that mere conjecture without any hard figures to quantify it does not cut it for me. Your argument will make much sense if you said of all the business men surveyed that a higher percentage of a particular ethnic group seem to have more money than the others after carefully taking into account all their investment irrespective where is it.

All so on the number of people doing business you will agree with me, that if you take a head count of all the traders and business people in any particular location apart from the indigenous people in that area the next group with higher head count will be the igbos and when you factor the fact that when you go to the East their numbers will be way more bigger than any other dominating group in the business, this will in aggregate leave them at the top of the chart in terms of head count.

The issue that will call for a careful observation will be the nature of the business and the sector in questions, but in terms of wealth not flaunting your riches, not throwing parties in London, sending your kids to Unilag instead of private uni or to the UK does not prove that you are not rich neither is it a prove that you have more money than everyone else, it is just a matter of personal preference and how you value things.

patrick89:
pained!!

patrick89:
you can bleed from now till tomorrow we all know your hatred is inherently-impish
We have a system we are proud of and not the ewedu selling cat faces!!
how many of your men sell in the open market? aside timber and nurtw what is the biggest informal sector that employ your people imp!

redcap:
the difference is that the Yoruba apprentice settles his master but in igbo culture the reverse is the case.

patrick89:
what scheme? you like making noise! this is not twitter or facebook and media outlets where you make noise! this is a very wonderful scheme that has no root anywhere except igboland! if you as a yoruba man brings a boy from ekiti as an ogun man, will you house him? clothe him? take care of his needs, why he does the trading for you? will you insult his father, mother and family someday? what govt aid are you talking about? when after the war igbos were treated like rags, no job for you if your are igbo, when did igbos start enlisting into military paraphernalia? you make is sound so easy yet, common Omo sè is modern day slavery in yoruba land! you can not feed him, cloth or even house him, what a wicked people! you envy yourself to a fault!
for one to get something the person must lick your assss!!
you think I don't know you haters!

Davidifeanyi:
Yes..it happens.
But those expelled boys can survive with virtually any amount of money/resources at their disposal because they know the secret of the business combined with discipline.
Again, they can easily get helps from relatives, shopmates, customers and dealer/suppliers who see him as a humble, trustworthy and hardworking boy. Those dealers normally give them any amount of goods they need on credit only for them to return the money after selling.
Lastly, the smart ones can make savings from the goods they sell for their Master without touching or stealling their Master's capital or profit......I mean you can be a millionaire while still serving your Boss ''I dont mean stealling ooo!''...IGBO Boyz here knows what I mean...apriko things sha...haha.
If Oga say make u sell am 20k....you just say yes Sir! The next thing is if im comot u sell am 30k or 25k....luckily u may sell 15, 30 or even 50pieces per day...d whole money weh dey ontop the 20k na ur own joor. Calculate am...but if you Boss catch you,,,na you go suffer oo! Some can even be almost as rich as their Boss becos He pays d whole bills from His profits while those boys pays nothing and they dont usually have time to go out to squander the chuwa-chuwa or apriko. Note, not in all cases.
The one I know saved upto 30mill...I mean cool 30milly under his Boss. after his settlement, built a hotel in Enugu town and sent about 10 boys abroad. If you see him inside His Rang Rover, you wont believe that He is the owner ..haha

Brugge:
Joke apart it is sad that when people like you see any write up you people start making out issues with it whether it is in favor of one tribe on the other. The truth is when you see a write up read it with open mind and if you want to critic it do based on the subject matter not on frivolous ground. Critics based on soundness of the write up will help other people say the short shortsightedness or merit of the article and people can learn from it. But when you start by pulling the ethnic cards everything gets muddy and people forget about the main message and start tackling senseless issue.

You may be enjoying it but it is of no good. The day I felt sorry about Nigerian youths and their attitudes towards having a deep and meaningful conversation was during my visit in Athens, when the Greeks are warming up for their 'IXO' vote, you need to listen to high school students of voting age, college students, parents and cab drivers engage in conversation based on substance with facts and logical argument and I begin to wonder what has eating the brain of our young people.

You may thing it is funny but we need to cultivate it as an habit until it becomes a part of us, I understand that we still have some fundamental issues that come into blame when we have conversations with people in our country but at least with an online forum so those constraints have been removed. The flip side is instead of making good use of the absence of such cultural barriers that hinders meaningful conversation with are abusing such privilege.

Just think about it, Nigeria is our country and it is time we start seeing it that way and acting it out.

Brugge:
With your level of comprehension I can't help but wonder how your navigate through life daily. You must be really fortunate!

Brugge:
For once pull your head out of your rear and think properly. The article is not debating on who started the scheme first neither was it saying that there have more money that other trader but the core point is an expose on the scheme that saw the quick financial recovery of the Igbos after the civil war.
I wonder how you take dey cross road self.

omonnakoda:
There is nothing uniquely Ibo about apprenticeship .Generally you have apprenticeships among traders and also craftsmen followng different traditions. Trading is common in Men among the Hausas and some Ibo groups while among the Yoruba trading is done mostly by women.Not all Ibo groups are traders.
Hausas trade in foreign exchange, gold,agricultural products to name a few.They too have experience of travelling with large quantities of cas across West Africa for generations.
Apprenticeship is the model used by many Yoruba craftsmen to learn their trade whether as building construction,mechanics,tailors,fabricators of metals( local machinery truck bodies etc). This also operates among Hausas who are a large body of mechanics servicing the heavy goods trucks in Sagamu and Ibadan.
The notable issue here in this Ibo apprenticeship is this model of serving for a term and then being rewarded afterwards. The biblical story of Jacob and Rebecca comes to mind.He was asked to serve for 7 years for his bride but on completion he was given Leah the older sister because the "older must marry first" and so had to serve another 7 years for his true love. Human beings are human beings and will always try to cheat and lie if they can get away with it. We have heard so many Rebecca stories.
What is important is we are not sold this idea that somehow buying and selling is all there is to business or is the best thing a young person can or should be doing with his life.
I remain critical of the Ibo mindset of buying and selling and crying for a sea port because there is no development no moving to the next level,no manufacturing vision. No major economy has so many traders.Ultimately we need big consolidated trading companies that can negotiate with manufacturers as equals ,negotiate better deals and deliver quality to consumers. As things are most Ibo traders are not in a position to replace defective manufactured goods and this creates reputational problems often unfairly. That is the vision we need ,Nigerian Shoprites and so on in every sector from pharmaceutics,grocery,spare parts etc How is this integrated with modern technology such as the internet etc. A model where 1000 small players are each bringing in one container a month is outdated. That is the real threat to Ibo traders in the future and a challenge to Nigeria

More and more apprenticeships will not lead us anywhere as a nation. That is not a 21st century doing business.If we do not wake up we will only succumb to the Shoprites and Walmarts of the world.

The narrative of £20 somehow had to find its way into the story.Another opportunity for self affirmation.Okay.but that was then and this is now. We all want to buy quality good with our phones and have them delivered to our homes and if there are problems we want good customer service.Those are the NEW SKILLS any 21st century business needs not j oust buying and selling

Macelliot:
They were influenced by the Yorubas..

Believe me, I grew up in the West, but since I relocated back to the East, my Eyes don clear... My determination and self-willed to make it tripled...

Macelliot:
Almost every Igboman is rich.. Don't expect a core Igbo man to start flaunting his wealth like the Yorubas does..

Nnewiboi:
see painment. e pain am. Chaiii chaiiii.

prettysolid:
She must ave recognised the rapists hence the killing. But that shouldnt have warranted them taking a soul but too much smoking of dagger wont let dem boys see or think clearly

praxisnetworks:
Hmm bad upbringing... I can tell you what happened to my mother?

Eddygourdo:
Why should I walk up to you, when ur so fat that even if you standing on the north pole, ur still within ear shot. My dear u just like me. Don't know why. I don't like you. The feeling is not mutual. Yes I will let you use my broke ass. It's been a long time I bleeped a LovePeddler with hundred naira. 1999 was fun. No gerrarahia men with stinky booty

praxisnetworks:
Threatening people you don't know... Your growing up must have been so terrible.... I was raped by my fada and I think I can understand

sonofananimal:
to show the level of your depression, you want us to be dead!

please go see your doctor. it will do you good.

praxisnetworks:
Y should I blame women... Schizophrenia is a serious condition... Seek help asap

Eddygourdo:
u not that good in bed dear. Get ur face out of ur ass. Kill me? With what. Well u must have been joking. So I will just laugh. Hahahaha

praxisnetworks:
Y are you so sad

praxisnetworks:
No he's not, I am a Amalekite...

sonofananimal:
and you are also unfortunate with men, that's why you like throwing your frustration to us.

sorry! I'm not the cause of your problem.

sonofananimal:
just wait until you get married (if someone reasonable will even come looking for you) and start talking RUBBISH and raining INSULT up and down like a woman who don't think before talking and see if that man won't beat the hell out of you!.

just look at what you are talking so you expect a man to endure emotional abuse from a woman!

let me not talk but I think you need some help!

praxisnetworks:
I am a vermin but how dare you call someone a pig...

Teymanhenry:
no matter what, such beating by a husband is uncalled for... but by the way she wrote, I know the type of woman she is. she's the type of woman, who can make u so upset that u can do what u least expect Yaself to do:

sonofananimal:
thank you! you said the truth!


nobody know if that WOMAN IS ONE OF THOSE FOOLISH WOMEN who only run mouth and be raining INSULT on her husband anyhow and the husband is just tolerating her until he reach his limit.

when I see story like this, I just don't PITY her but wanted to hear the husband side of the story, WOMEN ARE evil .

xfay:
Do I see love brewing?...... Hmm

praxisnetworks:
Am not responsible for the whoring of my mama or the drunkenness of my fada .... Now run along