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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by dragon2(m): 4:29pm On Dec 30, 2013
agaugust: you k.illed him wink

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we just dey try enlighten dem,make dem no think say dem be ostrich,when dem never reach fowl level. wink wink
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by dragon2(m): 4:23pm On Dec 30, 2013
Fighter Pilot: Read:

http://www.damen.com/en/markets/defence-and-security
The SIGMA class frigate?

read.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigma-class_corvette
no mention of south Africa Anywhere, you prob build luxury boats and tugs.
notice the builders are Schelde Naval Shipbuilding. A branch of Damen in Holland.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by dragon2(m):
Fighter Pilot: Read:

http://www.damen.com/en/markets/defence-and-security
Are you a dutch colony?

Damen is a dutch company that happens to have a shipyard in SA.Most of its companies are in holland.
The Netherlands
Amels
Bodewes Millingen
Damen Anchor and Chain Factory
Damen Dredging Equipment
Damen Marine Components
Damen Marine Services
Damen Schelde Gears
Damen Schelde Marine Services
Damen Schelde Naval Shipbuilding
Damen Shiprepair Rotterdam (Pernis)
Damen Shiprepair Rotterdam (Schiedam)
Damen Shipyards Bergum
Damen Shipyards Den Helder
Damen Shipyards Gorinchem
Damen Shipyards Hardinxveld
Damen Trading
Maaskant Shipyards Stellendam
Oranjewerf Shiprepair
Damen Shiprepair Vlissingen
Shipdock Amsterdam
Shipdock Harlingen
Van Brink Rotterdam
And a few others in other countries, including S.A.
http://www.damen.com/en/companies
just cause it has a shipyard in S.A does not mean S.A. builds Frigates and OPV's. It does however mean Holland builds frigates.Do you really think the dutch will build frigates in S.A? Except you are a dutch colony. grin grin grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by dragon2(m): 2:05pm On Dec 30, 2013
Fighter Pilot: Damen (SA based shipyard is the first in Africa to manufacture stealth warships)

Damen's frigates and covettes

http://www.damen.com/en/markets/defence-and-security
Damen is a Dutch Multinational company.

http://www.damen.com/en/companies

"Damen Shipyards Group is firmly based in The Netherlands with strong global presence and dedication."
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by dragon2(m): 4:07pm On Dec 28, 2013
Z3tdee: [color=#000090] Cameroon Navy receives new patrol vessels, landing craft [/color]

https://www.defenceweb.co.za/images/stories/SEA/Aresa_Defender_Landing_Craft_400x300.jpg

Cameroon’s Navy has taken delivery of two new Spanish patrol boats and a landing craft, providing a major boost to the country in safeguarding its maritime domain.

Cameroon’s Chief of Naval Staff, Rear Admiral Jean Mendoua, commissioned the 23 metre Aresa 2300 landing craft and two 24 metre Aresa 2400 CPV Defender patrol boats at the Cameroon Navy Base in Douala on November 21. The commissioning also included a presentation meeting as well as a tour of the boats while moored at the Naval Base, according to Grup Aresa Internacional.

The Spanish shipbuilding group has worked extensively with Cameroon, supplying a sizeable number of vessels to its Navy, which has 12 Aresa boats in service. This figure includes six Aresa 750 Commandos RIBs - delivered last August -, five 1200 Stealth RIBs and one 1200 Defcon RIB – delivered in May 2013.

Further deliveries will take place in February when two 32 metre patrol boats will be delivered.

Grup Aresa said that for the Cameroon Navy, the Spanish shipbuilding group is providing two years of technical support, as well as spares and boat refitting services.

Cameroon’s navy is relatively well equipped in order to secure Cameroon’s oil installations and prevent maritime crime and is optimised for coastal and river patrol, especially in light of rising levels of piracy in the Gulf of Guinea.

It has around 40 coastal, inshore and river patrol craft as well as several combat patrol vessels.
READ MORE

http://defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=33027:cameroon-navy-receives-new-patrol-vessels-landing-craft&catid=51:Sea&Itemid=106
Good for them,but this is something our maritime security/fisheries Agencies buy,talkless of our Navy.Fact is our navy no longer intend to buy boats of that class,rather we intend to build such in-house.
We are currently building a bigger Craft.
http://beegeagle./2013/12/28/nigerian-navys-38m-made-in-nigeria-seaward-defence-boat-sdb-projec-an-exercise-in-local-content-development-hull-now-completed/
NIGERIAN NAVY’S 38M MADE-IN-NIGERIA SEAWARD DEFENCE BOAT (SDB) PROJECT…AN EXERCISE IN LOCAL CONTENT DEVELOPMENT ; HULL FORMATION NOW COMPLETED

Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by dragon2(m):
CAMNEWTON4PRES: Naija police budget indeed, the same policemen who sleep in toilets? We saw how your school police looks like ? We saw how your soldiers were fighting over fish's head , bottom line your army and police are ill equipped and ill trained, they are useless to say the least and can't win even a wresting match against us talk less about a war, we will simply destroy everything .

Someone mentioned Chad, like I said we train them, and Chad can't dare Cameroon, not only we feed them but we are more advanced than them in all ramifications, furthermore it is not in our country that they are backing rebels groups, what is the great Naija doing about Chad? Na throwing punches in the air won't save your country ?

For the one who mentioned airbase with frenc jet fighters stop being a slowpoke they have to stop in Cameroon for refuelling etc , we make money from that and we refused to go in CAR and die to protect French interests like you slaves have been doing in CIV, in Liberia etc naija is the African country used to maintain African under slavery , you think Cameroonian are mad? Lol we want to completely get rid of them but we know we can count on you therefore we have to b careful , our former president signed contracts with them what we do is to not renew them when they expire, as we can see there are no French bases in Cameroon unlike in West Africa that the pseudo giant of Africa is supposed to protect .
Please kill that dream in your mind right now bombing our territory will mark the end of Nigeria . And do not think we are not aware of your shenanigans, trying to get us involved in bokoharam for where? We have made it clear we don't get involved in people internal problem this is in our constitution so you can ask your soldiers to stop throwing stones (and don't discuss that we busted u)

@ sambo , Bokoharam haram said they want to form a country out of northern Nigeria why should it bother Cameroon? Are we the one that should maintain the integrity of your territory? Why should we b against them? Do we call Nigeria to deal with secessionist groups in Cameroon? No
careful when you throw stones;

Your countries GDP and GDP / capita is less than ours:
http://www.google.com.ng/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&met_y=ny_gdp_mktp_cd&hl=en&dl=en&idim=country:CMR:GHA:SEN#!ctype=l&strail=false&bcs=d&nselm=h&met_y=ny_gdp_mktp_cd&scale_y=lin&ind_y=false&rdim=region&idim=country:CMR:NGA:KEN:SDN:ETH:AGO:GHA&ifdim=region&hl=en_US&dl=en&ind=false

http://www.google.com.ng/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&met_y=ny_gdp_mktp_cd&hl=en&dl=en&idim=country:CMR:GHA:SEN#!ctype=l&strail=false&bcs=d&nselm=h&met_y=ny_gdp_pcap_cd&scale_y=lin&ind_y=false&rdim=region&idim=country:CMR:NGA:KEN:ETH:GHA&ifdim=region&hl=en_US&dl=en&ind=false

Infact your GDP is less than Lagos. Your GDP growth rate is less than Nigeria's.

Your foreign reserves is less than a 10th of ours.
http://www.indexmundi.com/cameroon/reserves_of_foreign_exchange_and_gold.html

And your Armed Forces?

ARMY

"The General Headquarter Brigade, located in Yaoundé. This brigade is responsible for protecting the capital and supporting the institutions. The President of the Republic has to allow any of its deployments."
"Three command and support battalions;"
"The Rapid Intervention Brigade, (which currently has no general staff) and is made up of three rapid intervention battalions, stationed in Doula, Tiko and Koutaba. These three battalions are respectively the Bataillon Special Amphibie (BSA), the Bataillon des Troupes Aeroportees (BTAP) and the Bataillon Blinde de Reconnaissance (BBR). The BSA is inspired by the French Special Forces. This brigade is a tactical battle unit under the authority of the Chief of Staff of the armed forces. For this to be engaged, the President’s agreement is necessary. Amongst its three battalions, only the BTAP is operational;"
"Five motorised infantry brigades, supposed to be stationed in one military sector but which can then be engaged without any regard to the territorial division of the country. These brigades currently[b] do not have a general staff[/b]. In theory, they consist of 11 motorised infantry battalions; 5 support battalions and 3 backing battalions; however, the motorised battalions are in reality not operational due to a lack of staff, equipment and vehicles."
"Three rapid intervention battalions, the so-called BIR
Navy:

Latest estimates indicate naval strength consists of two combat patrol vessels, three coastal patrol vessels and approximately 30 smaller inshore and river patrol craft allocated to both the navy and the local gendarmerie. These include two 135 tonne Yunnan-class landing craft, which are able to carry and launch smaller craft for troop insertions. Some effort has been made to assess equipment needs to bring L'Audacieux P103 and Bakassi P104 to an effective combat status. This has resulted in weapons capabilities being reduced in favour of an increase in serviceability and the service is now effectively without missile attack capabilities. Bakassi (a Type P 48S missile patrol craft) completed a major refit at Lorient, France in August 1999. This included removing the Exocet missile system and EW equipment, and fitting a funnel aft of the mainmast to replace the waterline exhausts. New radars were also installed. Bakassi is now armed only with 40 mm cannon. Although the Bizerte (P48 large patrol craft) class L'Audacieux is fitted for SS-12M missiles these are not embarked and its operational status is in some doubt, having not been reported at sea since 1995. The Quartier-Maître Alfred Moto patrol boat was listed as out of service in 1991 but has since been reactivated.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cameroonian_Armed_Forces

Air force:

The Cameroon Air Force (Armée de l'Air du Cameroun) theoretically possesses a fairly well balanced force of relatively unsophisticated aircraft, although many of these are now ageing and serviceability levels are likely to be low. Emphasis is placed on transport and utility operations in support of ground forces. Combat capability is modest and restricted to a few armed trainers that can be used for ground attack, COIN and close air support roles. Six Atlas Impala jet trainers purchased from South Africa in 1997 had a lengthy gestation period before becoming operational and did not enter service until late 1998. None of the Impalas are currently in service. Apart from a few ultralight aircraft, these are the most recent additions to the inventory. Cameroon's air arm lacks training aircraft and has also experienced a significant decline in transport assets, most recently involving the 2001 grounding of the remaining three DHC-5D Buffalo aircraft.

The air force includes three main aerial bases, in Yaoundé, Douala, and Garoua. The air force staff is divided between these three bases, located within each military region. The Yaoundé base is a helicopter and liaison platform; the Douala base is a logistical and tactical transport platform; the Garoua base is an attack and training platform. The first two bases are timeworn. There are no stopping systems, no radio-navigation installations, and no lighting apparatus. No major investment has been made for a long time. The Garoua base is the more modern and the best equipped and "conforms" to NATO standards having been built by the Germans, following an invitation to tender. The PANVR[1] (Pole Aeronautique National a Vocation Regionale) is located on this base. Large aeroplanes can land easily on this base. However, the site is not well maintained.

The Koutaba aerodrome is home to the Bataillon des Troupes Aeroportees (BTAP).
Finally, the Bamenda aerodrome could become a fourth aerial base, with the stationing of the airborne rifle commandos (fusiliers commando de l’air – BAFUSCO AIR): currently 60 people under the command of a lieutenant colonel assisted by eight officers work at the site. Such a deployment is large by Cameroonian standards.
Currently, the air force has 6 Dassault/Dornier Alpha Jets (2 are currently inoperable) as attack aircraft; 3 Lockheed C-130 Hercules and 1 Aérospatiale SA 330 Puma transport aircraft, 1 Piper PA-23, 1 Aérospatiale Alouette II, 2 Joker 300, 7 Humbert Tétras for training and 2 Bell 206 as observation and liaison aircraft. The independently operated Presidential aerial squadron has 1 Grumman Gulfstream III, 1 Aérospatiale Dauphin and 1 Aérospatiale Super Puma, which are not part of air force equipment. Maintenance of aircraft of this squadron is better than for those of the air force..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cameroon_Air_Force
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by dragon2(m): 8:40pm On Dec 24, 2013
Slight digression but interesting read :


At that seminar, the question before the assembly was how to put the Satellite in the orbit. When I say, orbit, I mean geo-stationery orbit. The Americans, after thorough research, discovered that the only way to launch a better Satellite was to put it right into the Geo stationary Orbit.
Incidentally, Nigeria was found to be located 29 degrees local angle to the orbit, about 46,000 miles away which means that the orbit was very low to Nigeria.
Right there, we had to liaise with them and they had to bring a boat, the dome with a complete set of network command and a recording station. They actually launched the Satellite in Texas, America but was controlled in our office in marina, Lagos, Nigeria. cool cool Although Russia first launched a satellite, it was however not in the Geo-stationery orbit. So the American Satellite was the first that went to the geo stationary orbit single channel.
- See more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/02/how-nigeria-controlled-first-american-satellite-%E2%80%94-engr-haffner/#sthash.PYBoluFY.dpuf
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by dragon2(m): 8:29pm On Dec 24, 2013
NEWS AGENCY OF NIGERIA
May 18, 2012
Abuja

Prof. Ita Ewa, the Minister of Science and Technology said on Thursday that Nigeria would launch three satellites and send astronauts to space by 2015.

Ewa stated this in Abuja at the ongoing ministerial briefing to commemorate 2012 Democracy Day and anniversary of President Goodluck Jonathan’s administration. He said the move was part of government efforts to boost the
economy through space technology.

The minister enumerated the country’s
space programme from now to 2028
when it expects to launch a made-in-
Nigeria satellite into space. “In 2015 we are preparing to launch NigeriaSAR-1 satellite. The NigeriaSAR is a security satellite with an acronym that stands for Synthetic Aperture Radar. “This satellite will have a very high resolution that can cover kilometres,and for a backup of the communication satellite there will be NigeriaSat-2 and NigeriaSat-3.

That should be NigeriaCOMsat-2 and nigeriaCOMsat-3

http://beegeagle./2012/05/18/nigeria-to-launch-3-more-satellites-send-astronauts-to-space-by-2015-100-military-personnel-trained-to-man-surveillance-satellite/
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by dragon2(m): 8:07pm On Dec 24, 2013
NigComSat-1, a Nigerian satellite ordered and built in China in 2004, was Nigeria's second satellite and Africa's first communication satellite. wink winkIt was launched on 13 May 2007, aboard a Chinese Long March 3B carrier rocket, from the Xichang Satellite Launch Centre in China.

NigeriaSat-1 is a satellite of the standard Disaster Monitoring Constellation (DMC) design. It has 100 kg mass and carries an optical imaging payload developed by SSTL to provide 32 m ground resolution with an exceptionally wide swath width of over 640 km. The payload uses green, red and near infrared bands equivalent to Landsat TM+ bands 2, 3 and 4. Images are stored in a 1-gigabyte solid-state data recorder and returned via an 8-Mbit/s S-band downlink. NigeriaSat-1 can image scenes as large as 640 x 560 km, providing unparalleled wide-area, medium-resolution data. The data will be used within Nigeria to monitor pollution, land use and other medium-scale phenomena. Launched on 27 September 2003.
NigeriaSat-2 and NigeriaSat-X with 300 kg mass each - to replace NigeriaSat-1, commenced November 6, 2006,[6] launched 17 August 2011.
NigComSat-1 Communications satellite providing rural internet access - launched on 13 May 2007, aboard a Chinese Long March 3B carrier rocket, from the Xichang Satellite Launch Centre in China. The satellite was the second Nigerian satellite to be placed into orbit. On 10 November 2008 (0900 GMT), the satellite was reportedly switched off, because it lost both of its solar arrays. The satellite is a total loss. The satellite was owned and operated by Nigerian Communication Satellite limited, an SPV, incorporated as a state owned enterprise, fully funded and owned by Federal Government of Nigeria. NigComSat Limited is currently being supervised by the Newly created Ministry of communications Technology and regulated by NCC and NBC.
NigComSat-1R - to replace the lost NigComSat-1, launched by China on 19 December 2011 with no cost to Nigeria.[7]

NigComSat-2 and NigComSat-3 - more communications satellites to extend Nigerian Communication Satellite ltd capacity, planning to launch in 2012 and 2013.
NigeriaSAT-1 - dual-aimed military/civil Earth monitoring satellite with synthetic aperture radar, planning to launch in 2015.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Space_Research_and_Development_Agency
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by dragon2(m): 8:00pm On Dec 24, 2013
Fighter Pilot: Why cant you be a proud man and read the sources i have quoted, or should i repeat them. You must stop taking too much of a palm wine, young man. Even an illiterate tapper will see all the links i have provided.
Are you talking about this:
http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/history-as-nigeria-finally-launches-two-satellites/96588
The replaced satellite tagged NIGCOMSAT R is said to be 75 per cent completed and expected to be launched at the end of the year.

The NigComSat1 experiment was set in motion during the administration of former President Olusegun Obasanjo. It was conceived as a follow up to the nation’s first satellite in orbit, Nigeria Satellite NigerSat1. The NigComSat project was seen as an answer to the country’s quest for technological advancement and a window through which Nigeria hoped to stamp its feet on the consciousness of the global community as a nation to be reckoned with in ICT. The Nigeria Satellite 1, which was facilitated by NARSDA, paved the way for NigComSat1 valued at about $250 million.

The satellite has four gateways said to be located in South Africa, China, Italy and Northern Nigeria. The satellite is supposed to have a lifespan of 15 years and is to be monitored and tracked by a ground station built in Abuja [/b]while the Chinese firm, Great Wall Industry Corporation, through its ground station in Kashgar, in North-west China is to monitor it.

[b]The satellite, a hybrid communications facility
, has a fuel payload that is meant to maintain it in orbit for a maximum of 15 years.

The satellite you are talking about is NIGCOMSAT-1R. It is a communication satellite for Broadband Internet,telephony and broadcasting, not NIGERIASAT our surveillance/earth observation satellite.Simply put, no country will route Earth observation satellites through another country due to the obvious security reasons.(intercepting the data for spying).
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by dragon2(m): 6:57pm On Dec 24, 2013
rka1: No, Sahara Reporters and Premium times. This is a press release anyway and I can paste many other identical press releases i.e....

http://leadership.ng/news/241213/we-have-arrested-1646-oil-thieves-suspects-naval-chief

MERRY CHRISTMAS ONE AND ALL.
DailyTrust jumps into the 'Premium sahara' News mud every now and then.
Merry Christmas.
Science/TechnologyRe: Nigerian Air Force Gulma Tactical Small UAS (SUAS) by dragon2(m): 9:49am On Dec 20, 2013
any idea about the future developmental plans of the UAV? Will it get bigger? Does it use GPS NAV in its waypoint navigation? hear the Gulma is different from the Amebo3,any ideas? You should join beegeagles blog(if you are not already a member).
Christianity EtcRe: Is Masturbation A Sin? by dragon2(m): 6:15pm On Dec 12, 2013
^^^ You asked to be educated,now you have been. You have been told why it is a sin, now you know. Do you want to still claim ignorance? The world revolves around God, not the other way round. I dont mean to sound harsh.

peace to all.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by dragon2(m): 5:05pm On Dec 12, 2013
Problem is,he did it for so long(fake sign language) and nobody picked it up,what if he was meant to be a fake? If a terrorist was making fake sign languages for so long are we saying nobody would pick it up among your security services?
You suggest he is bi-polar and was having an episode?That means he could kill obama at any moment and say alqaeda downloaded instructions to him to kill the P.O.T.U.S. If he is bipolar he should never have got such a sensitve position to so many heads of state.poor planning all round.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Masturbation A Sin? by dragon2(m):
Mastur*bation is a sin,its even worse than adultery or fornication, the latter two is a corruption of marriage,the institition within which sex is approved for the future nuture/upbringing of Gods children. Though a corruption of nature,these (fornicatiin and adultery)are natural acts(sex). Mastur*bation though is against nature,as an act it has no fruit(compared to sex whoes fruit is childbirth),its only goal is pleasure,as a result it is a hedonistic act and against God. Its closest relative is homo-sexualism. Both are unnatural(hedonistic ) acts.
Paul in his letter to the romans (Rom 1: 26-27). speaks more.
For this cause God gave them up to vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature :likewise also the men,leaving the natural use of the woman,burned in their lust one towards another;.... Here you see that sex between men and women is natural(though it can be corrupted by fornication and adultery).
Masturbation however, is un-natural.

Peace.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by dragon2(m): 9:11am On Dec 03, 2013
[quote author=Mike..ZA]Poachers are not a military threat. BUT THIS IS!!!!! ----------»www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/islamic-militants-attack-nigerian-air-force-base/article1-1158456.aspx#[/quote]boko haram a ,military threat please.? Who did they kill in the attack?How many of them were killed?Were they repelled?There was no curfew before the attack,the curfew came after they attacked.It is the desperate attempt of a dying group trying to raise flagging morale.Helicopters down?.There are about 3 or 4 on order before now so what? The planes they got were probably the de-commisioned MIGS. You guys can't deal with poachers that use asymmetric tactics with hit and run and you think you can deal with boko -haram that blend into society?
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by dragon2(m): 8:09am On Dec 03, 2013
AwodwaGyanOniwe: @DEATH MACHINE
SOUTH AFRICAN ARMY DARES "STUPI-D NAAIGERIAN ARMY". Wish SANDF and NAAIGERIA CAN GO TO "WAR IN OUR LIFETIME".

Wish the tensions between us lead us to "WAR".
grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

I PRAY FOR THAT EVERYDAY. kiss kiss kiss kiss kiss kiss kiss kiss kiss kiss kiss kiss kiss kiss
Learn to deal with simple poachers first.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by dragon2(m): 8:07am On Dec 03, 2013
courtesy of Beegeagle Blog:

http://beegeagle./2013/12/03/nigerian-air-force-alenia-atr-42-500-mpa-surveyor-naf-931-now-a-more-advanced-special-mission-aircraft-undergoes-elint-upgrade-world-exclusive-photo/

The ATR -500 with the modification to put a passive radome,this will give it the ability to track and direct air assets towards hostile threats. Our F7s now have a bird in the sky that give them a huge RADAR/ missile tracking/lock advantage.

Note the orange arrow pointing at the radome. This is a before and after picture.

Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by dragon2(m): 5:48pm On Dec 02, 2013
Fighter Pilot: But, do innocent people continue to die against those who are prepared to die?
we don't negotiate with terrorists. The day you do is the day you lose your freedom.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by dragon2(m): 3:03pm On Dec 02, 2013
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by dragon2(m): 10:04am On Dec 02, 2013
Fighter Pilot: South Africas war against Germany in South West Africa, now Namibia just on the brinks of the world war, which resulted in victory has not been recorded on the above list. My grandfather fought viciously on that war against the Germans and his pictures are still hanging on the wall. South Africa defeated Germany and colonised Namibia.
i said,since south Africa became a republic(not affiliated with Britain).
notice the british flag on the S.A. flag.

The picture below is WW1 notice red boxes

Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by dragon2(m):
agaugust: show us any war south africa has ever won in its history grin

.
unfortunately, the Liberian war victory is not yet entered.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_South_Africa
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Nigeria

since 1960 when both became a republic.

Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by dragon2(m): 1:24pm On Nov 30, 2013
Msauza: Tell me what went wrong here on the link attached below, where your Airforce failed dismally to provide aerial support when your soldiers were caught on an ambush.

http://www.punchng.com/news/40-soldiers-feared-killed-in-bharam-ambush/
did you read the whole thing?
But the authorities of the Nigerian Army denied the report that it lost 40 soldiers with 65 others missing in a Boko Haram onslaught.
The Army spokesman said the invading troops of the Nigerian Army killed 150 of the insurgents and lost 15 men in the encounter, adding that nine other soldiers were still missing.

According to him, a wanted Boko Haram commander, Abba Goroma, was among those killed in the battle at the Kasiya Forest.
The insurgents were completely routed and the camp cleared. Over 150 insurgents died.

“The insurgent camp was well fortified with anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons mounted on vehicles.

“One Abba Goroma, one top insurgent commander was killed, he was a high valued target, he had a bounty of N10m on his head.”

Your men fought for 13hrs,no air support and they were finally routed.Had it been an ambush of an 1hr or 2hrs and they escaped with 13deaths i wont say anything because air-support cant come in time.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by dragon2(m): 12:37pm On Nov 30, 2013
Msauza: Firstly, SA Army deployed without Airforce because their main objective was to train CAR Army and not to engage them in war. However, the rebels seen them as mercenaries and started attacking about only 200 SA soldiers who were poorly armed. The decision was, however, made by the parliament of SA that their troops should be withdrawn from CAR, but, instead, the Airforce should be on stand-by to witness their safe exit in CAR.

Should the rebels have tried anything to attack SA troops again, they should have faced the hell fire, they never experienced before.
Your men fought for 13hrs, what were your pilots and generals doing? Sleeping?

where in the world will 200 men face 3000 (as is claimed) while their Generals sleep and their pilots play with cards?
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by dragon2(m):
Msauza: The SA Air Force is more experienced than its Nigerian counterpart. It was founded in 1920 and has seen more honours as compared to Nigerias, which was only founded in 1964.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_Air_Force

Versus:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigerian_Air_Force
If you are so brave/experienced why did you sit on your arses while your ground troops got butchered in C.A.R? Are your brave pilots afraid of AAA?
They fought for 13hrs, you had more than enough time to stop the base from being overrun by dropping one umbani.

You fly your jets we fight with ours.

Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by dragon2(m):
Msauza: Nope!!!That is a general statement, refering to all the people. In actual fact, He could have said there are lot of people who died. Read it towards the end where it becomes more clearer pertaining to civilian attack.

What you see on the satellite view is not BH residence, but Baga where homes of the victims were destroyed.
Nigeria’s military on Friday attacked Boko Haram Islamist strongholds across the northeast, launching deadly air strikes on insurgent camps,
“There have been air strikes since Wednesday,” defence spokesman Brigadier General Chris Olukolade told AFP, specifying that they were continuing Friday.
Every one of their strongholds is under attack,”he said, adding that he believed “there are a lot of casualties,” without providing a figure

tell me is the "insurgent camps" and "strongholds" civilian areas ? Baga was a battle between ground forces and Boko haram, and HRW never sent anybody on the Ground to validate their pics,our satelites picked it up and we proved the area is small.

http://beegeagle./2013/05/17/nigerias-satellites-capture-baga-events-evidence-and-review-strongly-suggests-arbitrary-analysis-and-extrapolation-by-human-rights-watch-2/

If you want to know more about Baga go back a few pages.
Just face it,your Airforce is behind ours in term of Experience and combat effectiveness.QED.
You fly your Jets we fight with ours.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by dragon2(m): 10:26am On Nov 30, 2013
Msauza: [b][/b]“There have been air strikes since Wednesday,” defence spokesman Brigadier General Chris Olukolade told AFP, specifying that they were continuing Friday.
“Every one of their strongholds is under attack,” he said, adding that he believed “there are a lot of casualties,” without providing a figure.
The offensive is ongoing in all three states put under emergency decree, including Adamawa and Yobe, but Borno state is expected to see the most intense fighting.
Many have warned that there is a risk of high civilian deaths and Nigeria’s military has been accused of massive rights violations in the past, including indiscriminate attacks on civilians.
The operation is the largest against Boko Haram.
you do understand that the statement "There is a lot of casualties" alludes to boko haram ?
The other is a warning of civilian death. No where does it suggest civilian casualties from an air-strike.

lol,that picture has been debunked on this very thread.By the way,those are not bombings)
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by dragon2(m): 9:39am On Nov 30, 2013
Msauza: Then can you explain this blunder attached underneath:
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/05/casualties-as-military-launch-air-strikes-on-boko-haram/
Read your own link and tell me where it reports civilian casualties from air-strikes.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by dragon2(m):
http://beegeagle./2012/09/02/blog-exclusive-ecomog-air-operationsii-a-closer-look-at-the-phases-and-statistics/


SOURCE: Board of Officers to Assess the Nigerian Air Force Participation in “OPERATION LIBERTY” and “OPERATION SANDSTORM” (reviewed 19 Feb. 2001-Feb. 2002)

excerpted by XNur44, Air and Naval Aficionado

The Nigerian Air Force involvement in ECOMOG started on September 17 1990. Four units of Alpha Jet landed at Lungi airport on September 20, 1990.

In Op Liberty (1990-98) and Op Sandstorm (1997-98), more than 20% of air power employment was Close Air Support (CAS) and Deep Interdiction Mission (DIM) missions for ground forces.

In CAS missions, 350 sorties were flown with 266 sorties for Air Interdiction missions in Op Liberty. This represent 26% of combat support missions.
NAF A-jets were also used as armed escort to C-130, Super Puma helicopters and civil aircraft. About 9% of A-jet missions were dedicated to maritime and air patrol.

The Nigerian Air Force however lost three (3) A-jets (with no crew losses) while ten (10) sustained Category 2-3 damages.

Weapons employed were conventional unguided munitions e.g. Beluga cluster bombs (CBU),Durandal cratering bombs, 250kg GP bombs and 125kg drag bombs.

A-jets as configured were not perfect platforms for the delivery of these bomb types which necessitated steep dive bombing runs therefore exposing the jets to tripple-A fire.

In CAS missions, 556 sorties (21%) were flown; in Air interdiction missions, 613 sorties (23%) were flown; in Counter Air Operations 116 sorties (4%) were flown; in armed recce, 701 sorties (26%) were flown; in maritime recce and attack, 240 sorties (9%) were flown.

Are your pilots brave enough to fly into Triple A (AAA) fire?
In some of those sorties your rainbow nation did not exist.
Picture is from 1999 when rainbow southafrica was 5yrs old.

Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by dragon2(m): 9:29am On Nov 30, 2013
Msauza: Come on you used them only once with undesirable results. They killed citizens instead of BH.
you definitely dont know the history of our Air-force.Do you know how long we have been using these jets?DO you know how many sorties.Freshen yourself up and come back.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by dragon2(m): 9:23am On Nov 30, 2013
Msauza: Where are your cheap F7s when your soldiers are being constantly killed by the BH.
F7 are interceptors and we use alpha jets on the boko boys.Spare us, your jets dont fly,neither your pilots.

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