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NaijaCowFarm:
Leadership is not a popularity contest - Adams Oshomole

It is not arguable that Tinubu has a very large political structure. It is also not arguable that Tinubu can defeat Osinbajo in an Open Ballot system, but APC primaries are not going to be an open ballot system where people queue behind their candidates, rather it is going to be an Open-Secret Ballot system. In an open-ballot system, once I vote against you, you know, so I will be reluctant to vote another after assuring you or collecting your money. However, in an Open-Secret ballot, I can assure you that I will vote for you, collect your money yet vote my "heart".

Now on the day of the APC primaries, these are the facts that would be very clear:

Tinubu is too old to govern effectively: With the hindsight of Buhari's challenges, APC would rather go for a younger and much healthier candidate than an old and sick Tinubu. This is a clear advantage that Osinbajo would have. Most of the delegates would be easily swayed towards Osinbajo right inside the ballot cage, where they would thumb-print their ballot, fold it and come out openly to cast it in the ballot box. Mark you, it is going to be the same ballot box for all candidates, so you cannot know who was voted until the ballots are sorted and counted.

Tinubu's bad faith towards Ambode: The bad deed that Tinubu did to Ambode is still fresh in the minds of the governors, both single-term and second-term governors. it is on record that the governors overwhelmingly rejected the direct primaries simply because Tinubu and his men in NASS arranged to have them treated like Ambode. moreso, it was reported that the APC governor's forum led by Atiku Bagudu (who is still in charge by the way), went to Tinubu's residence in Abuja to beg and prostrate to the Jagaban to allow Ambode to complete his tenure, but baba shuns them. Now, he is running after the same Bagudu, even going to the Kebbi Lodge to beg then. They are sure to require their pound of flesh on behalf of Ambode.

Religious sentiments: Since 2015 Nigeria has been governed by a Muslim, Muhammadu Buhari. If another Muslim from the South takes over from Buhari in 2023, the Muslims would have had another 8 years, making a total of 16. Now when power returns to the North, obviously another Muslim would take over for another 8 years. In total, the Muslims would be president from 2015 - to 2039, a whopping 24 uninterrupted years. That is NOT FEASIBLE. Hence, rational as the delegates are, they would avoid such a trap that would easily hand power back to the PDP. The delegates would rather vote for Osinbajo than Tinubu.

Running mate wahahala: We all recall the challenges that Buhari faced in choosing a running mate in 2015. Buhari was under pressure to avoid the Muslim-Muslim ticket in 2015, even with over 10 million Northern votes in the kitty. Tells that with a Tinubu's candidacy, it would be tougher for APC. Firstly, Tinubu does not have the cult following that Buhari commanded in 2015. Secondly, the North would never accept a Northern Christian VP, this is an unwritten law. Adopting such would mean FAILURE in the North. Hence the only option that Tinubu would have is a Muslim-Muslim ticket, which would FAIL woefully at elections. Even APC NEC would advise against such a move. The obvious alternative would be Osinbajo.

Unaccounted Baggages: Accountability is the acceptance of responsibility for one's own actions. It implies a willingness to be transparent, allowing others to observe and evaluate one's performance. Integrity is the quality of being honest and having strong moral principles; moral uprightness. Measured on these two words, Osinbajo would beat Tinubu by a clear distance. Firstly, Tinubu has held Lagos to a stranglehold for the past 23 years. He has made sure that his son controls all the key revenue-generating sectors of the state, the numerous toll gates, etc. His daughter controls all the markets in Lagos, his son-in-law is in NASS, and his wife is a senator for life, he receives 10% tithes from Lagos State. These are baggages that Nigeria's state cannot accommodate. Even now, he has closed NURTW in Lagos and handed it over to his cronies. Is this the type of person that Nigeria wants to give power over the nation and national treasury and power?
Responsible delegates would avoid such a person because, when push goes to shove, Nigerians would be better off without such baggages. Hence the Osinbajo appeal would suffice.

Academic and foundational credence: Tinubu's state of origin, early education, age, and birth are all mysteries. Noone knows where he is from. Noone knows his father, no one knows where he got his first school leaving certificate nor his high school certificate nor diploma. All we hear is that he graduated from some University in the USA. There are those that say that his daughter is 61 years old while Tinubu is claiming 70 years old. That is a mystery too many to be overlooked. Hence Osinbajo would come as a sterling candidate to sell rather than a Tunubu with these baggages of unexplained mysteries.

Conclusion: Osinbajo would trounce Tinubu in APC primaries. However, APC may not form the next government, no matter who they field!

OP you got all wrong. Track record of achievements and the foundation that Tinubu has laid is too insurmountable for any competitor with Tinubu. Age is just not a major consideration in Nigeria. The youth clamouring for a young president are the ones who will not go out to vote. And age has nothing to do with performance. Experience and track record matters most. All your parameters are sentimental and do not go deep among the core voters. And those delegates can not be swayed to vote Oshinbajo because they know he is not electable especially in the norther part of Nigeria. None of them want to gamble with winning the presidency for your very light weight arguments.

cj1900:
Hi guys,
I won't take much of your time. I have a very delicate matter in my hands and I need diverse opinions please.

Background
I don't live in Nigeria but me and my wife both have a very comfortable 4 bedroom duplex in Nigeria. We have a one year old baby. I have been in Nigeria for 5 months now and I will be returning to UK in a few weeks.

Ever since I've been in Nigeria, my cousin (mid 30s) has been with us. Quite frankly, it is not very easy for him at the moment and i do care about him as a brother. He is in the process of processing his visa, so its not as if he is loafing about.

The plan is that both me and my wife will be taking turns in visiting each other for the next 2 or so years until I return fully to Nigeria.

The problem
The problem is that I do not feel comfortable leaving just him and my wife under thesame roof whilst I return and he is not showing any signs of leaving when I return to my base.

So, this is my situation and I don't know if I am being insensitive.

I married a very good wife and under most circumstances, I trust her. I am just not comfortable leaving my wife with any man atall under thesame roof.

I need your opinions pls.

I will advise you never to do it. Satan is always lurking around the corner between your wife and him. Find another place for your cousin. You will regret it if you leave him in your house. Even if your wife reassures you don’t listen to her. You will thank me later.

AntonVince:
So, despite the humongous economic, security and social challenges among others bedeviling our nation, the presidency should simply be given as a political compensation to those who have "paid their dues" ?

You want to trade the destinies of over 200 million Nigerians just to satisfy the greed-driven cravings of a desperate pee-pooing octogenarian thief.

Oo ni kuure, Ado Doguwa and anyone wishing tbis renowned looter on Nigerians.

It’s unfortunate if that’s the only thing you took out. He said Tinubu is medically and physically fit. Of course in terms of track record, none of the present presidential candidates can match his track records. None of them I repeat.

Burgerlomo:
Which certificate of return is Wille receiving again?

I wonder o. Setting us back by 8 years, God forbid.

Standing on stolen mandate ���.

Malory:
And he didn't invite the so called Jagaban parading himself as the national leader

What can we do to these wailing egberes (demons)? A wailer is so daft that they forget that Tinubu is not a justice of Supreme Court, not even a lawyer.

Proper thug and terrorist killing people in the name of religion and tribe. And he is walking free in a developed country.

ChoCho54:
Tinubu go siddon ooo

Your mythical stature is all wash. Every single thing you ever did, you cashed out from big time.

Assuming he cashed out, he still left development in place for generations to come. The others stole and continue to steal without any development. Who is better.

DitariDisciple2:
Ijaw Republic our home.Ijaws being the 4th largest tribe and having a population of over 10 percent of Nigeria deserves 2 more states and more LGAs for Bayelsa state.
Bayelsa state is bigger than 10 Nigerian states and have over 550 villages and settlements but are so marginalized in times of LGAs.
Forget that lie population figure in book that many falsify.
The truth remains.
All Nigeria's offshore oil go with Ijaw Republic because we are the ones sharing borders with the whole ocean.


Ijaw produces over 90 percent of all Nigeria's crude oil but were unjustly balkanized into Ondo, Edo, Delta, Bayelsa, Rivers and Akwa-Ibom States when all Ijaw areas are fully together and are not scattered by God.
The Lovers of Ijaw Nation Organization is asking the Nigerian system to restore us to none balkanized by creating Toru-Ebe State (for Ijaws of Ondo, Edo, Delta), Oil Rivers State (for Ijaws of Rivers and Akwa-Ibom States and increase Bayelsa LGAs to the proper number as it is in other States.
These states are economically viable.

Failure to do this, we are going to take full militant actions in every way so as to leave Nigeria and go for Ijaw Republic.

Abeg please shut up. Who state creation hep, other than the politicians. We want good leadership full stop. And restructuring along the regions, not states. Many of the created states are not viable and go cap in hand every month to Abuja.

No matter how much you try to taint the story, the truth still remains that Tinubu accepted that Oshinbajo be made Vice President. And yes he was right to insist on himself because he was the arrowhead of the merger along with Buhari. Oshinbajo was not the leader of APC, Tinubu was. So, no matter how you want to colour the scenario, Oshinbajo should still remain grateful to Tinubu, not to betray him is an honourable thing to do. Oshinbajo with his wife went to Bourdillon to thank Tinubu. Buhari and his Aunt did same.

Shooyie:
We all know Osinbajo is capable and there's a belief in his abilities.

How? Don’t you see the economy as it is? Is that what you will boast off?

Nonpartisan1:
Judas to the mud! No assurance to the traitor.

Exactly. These Oshi supporters don’t know how to read handwriting on the wall.

TheRareGem1:
Wow. And they didn't tell one baba even after giving them dollars . He must have gotten the memo by now

Many of you are not discerning type. This is not a warm and enthusiastic welcome by senators. Compare that to that of meeting Tinubu where they pledged to support him. Did you see them mentioning any support for Oshinbajo?

Johnames:
Osinbajo did not do anything wrong, I'm expecting tinubu to step down and support osinbajo, He is an elder state man. He is not fit to become Nigeria president, we should tell ourselves the truth.

You are telling yourself lies. Oshinbajo has no track record to rely on. Even the economy that he is in charge, it is so poor and sick. Tinubu has far greater record and well experienced ahead of Oshinbajo.

America committed genocide in Iraq and Afghanistan. Also in Libya and Syria . They cannot pontificate for us. We need neutral powers to condemn Russia.

ityP:
If you seriously believe this, then, no one can help you boss

Did I tell you I need help? Next month is not too long, you will wake up from your slumber las las.

Oshinbajo is just wasting his time. The whole National Assembly already committed to Tinubu presidential ambition. They gave their nod already.

Penguin2:
Tell me one governor who has endorsed any presidential candidate…

When you realize that no governor has endorsed anyone, you will realize the stupidity behind this post in trying to paint the Amaechi candidacy as unpopular.

Junk journalism meant for half brains.

Fools!

El Rufai
Sanwoolu
Ganduje
Dapo
Kebbi Governor
Katsina Governor

These are the sure ones for Tinubu.

Oshinbajo has committed political harakiri (suicide). He will be shocked beyond his marrow.

MadamVanessa:




You'll never be president I can bet you. You can govern your Lagos state for eternity for all I care, but for Nigeria, you'll never smell Aso Rock.

Your presidential aspiration hit the rock when Amaechi and Osibanjo came out to declare unapologetically. It's now dawn on you that you were gallivanting for nothing doing meaningless consultation.

You put Buhari there, so he can pay you back, but Buhari realizing that you're a thief and a crook took to his heels and picked his two boys Osi and Ama to succeed him. which one of these two will win the APC ticket.


Anyways , you have nothing to loose after all, because lagos is always there for you to loot with reckless abandon.

Another early morning wailer. You wailers never sleep these days. Who laced this wailing curse on you people? Whether you like it or not madam wailer, Tinubu is our next president. I have ordered a brand new transformer for you to hug by 29th May next year.

buckeyemedia:
I was born in Ikoyi & grew up in Victoria Island, Tinubu did nothing for Lagos State, nonsense thief, where did he get 50 million Naira to donate can his Mobil pension afford that?

Abi no be same Tinubu way dey live for Balarabe Musa Crescent behind 1st gate 1004 back in the 90’s?

Mushin pikin, no wonder you get this local mentality.

Tinubu was not a governor for the elite. That’s why you never felt his leadership. I lived long enough to see colonial relics in Lagos. And I witnessed all the other governors. Only Jakande stands out apart from Tinubu. Other governors after Tinubu are using the already laid out template to further develop Lagos. I know that he employed many street sweepers etc. as I said, he did not have anything to do with VI and Zikoyi. But you will remember that your people almost ran out of VI when bar beach was almost claiming your houses and land. Tinubu solved the problem.

buckeyemedia:
How old are you? Akhigbe, Marwa, Raji Rasaki did nothing for Lagos? Nothing has changed, Lagos State is still the dirtiest state, back then it had the highest IGR, you must be a kid because as much as things change, Lagos is still the same.

Always been progressing, actually Bola Tinubu & co regressed it backwards because of their greed, or wasn’t the the Lekki Ajah road there before they put their toll gate, Eko Atlantic they are shouting about isn’t that Bar Beach?

You must be a kid, Nonsense Apc slave.

You are a liar. I was borne and brought up in Mushin and Lagos island. I went to campaign for Jakande and Awolowo during UPN days. So you can guess my age.

buckeyemedia:
He is an accountant, Lagos State of Nigeria 1999 is not Nigeria 2023.

Mind you Lagos State was long in progress before Bola Tinubu arrived, actually Lagos state did more for him, than he did for Eko.

That’s a lie. I was in Lagos and knew it was a rubbish dump. The dirtiest city in the world. IGR was 40 billion and fully dependent on federal revenue when he came in. He grew it to 100 billion. Security was horrible. He equipped police and set up a trust fund got them. He set up LAWMA, LASTMA.

press9jatv:
I shed tears when I see rate of poverty level in Nigeria presently. Both Tinubu, Osinbajo doesn’t have the template of good economic development in Nigeria. All what they are looking for is power and corruption. For the last 7 years they have been in Power, Nigeria is still in poverty. The poverty level is very high now. Inflation rate is at 2 digits figure.

Tinubu did well with Lagos economy, despite the frustration by Obasanjo. He is a better economy manager than Oshinbajo. He is an economist by profession and has also done the same while working in private sector.

bennybuhari:
I think Osunbajo is the real political strategist here, not Tinubu. He carefully executed his plans months ago

Lol. We shall see. Only 10 governors at his “strategic” announcement, 4-5 of which are Tinubu boys. Yet he invited 23 progressive governors. Is that not handwriting on the wall?

SmartPolician:
If Nigeria had been a serious country, she would have taken the place of Russia in Europe. But how can Nigeria meet Europe's LNG demand when it cannot meet its local demand?

Nigeria can meet European and local demand. Most of the gas we have is still being wasted due to poor technology applied to gas capture.

wildernessVoice:
Calm down

Osibanjo is not in charge, check his scorecard when he held brief when Bubu was on medical jamboree

He is in charge of the economy.

press9jatv:
Under Yemi Osinbajo's Vice Presidency:

1. Nigerian unemployment rose to 33%

2. Violent killings increased 47% from 7063 in 2020 to 10,366 in 2021.

3. GDP per capita dropped 40% and Debt service to over 90% of revenue.

If you like, elect him..

He is in charge of economy and Nigeria became the poverty capital of the world. Borrowings increased monumentally. Severe job losses etc. Economy is not doing well. Yet he wants to be elected as president. This can only happen in Africa.,

slawormiir:
Damnnn niggar
Disown or no Disown

The two of them... Osinbajo and tinubu will never be our president

I can bet my balls on that..

Osinbajo and tinubu not to be president is a sure odd


Ogbeni grow some balls....make we go outside corner....Place bet put for this game....wether you nor go lose your money

When you stop smoking ganja we can bet.

SIMONEKPA7:

We are extending our sit at home to Lagos state

Try it, and you will see!

[quote author=Ballack1 post=111847206][/quote]Yes I do! You also admitted betrayal in your first response. But you said it’s politics and so should be alright.