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OLAADEGBU: Words of Comfort: Keeping the Sabbath.

Scripture makes it clear that no one can be justified (made right with God) by keeping the Sabbath holy, or by keeping any other Commandment. All the Law does is bring the knowledge of sin to show us that we need a Saviour. Jesus fulfilled the demands of the Law, which means we can be made right with God through faith in Him alone (see Eph. 2:8,9). Believers now serve in the spirit, not the letter of the law, and the principle behind the Sabbath is this: Just as God created for six days then rested on the seventh, man is to work for six days and rest on the seventh—to cease working. Those who trust in Christ’s finished work on the cross have ceased trying to be justified through their own efforts and instead find their rest in Him. (See Heb. 4:3,10.) That is why keeping the Sabbath is a non-issue for Christians when it comes to eternal salvation. It is simply a matter of conscience. Christians have incredible liberty—no one can tell us what we must eat or drink, or what days we must observe.

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OLAADEGBU: Tithes and Offerings
February 6, 2013.

"Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it" (Malachi 3:10).

Today there is much talk of financial security. The biblical formula in today’s verse, given to Israel, but applied to all, begins with a scathing indictment. "Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings" (v. 8 ). What a terrible thing, to rob God. The result of their thievery, in God’s eyes: "Ye are cursed with a curse" (v. 9), such that their financial state was much worse than it would have been had they been obedient. This teaching and promise has not been rescinded (Luke 6:38; 1 Corinthians 16:2; etc.).

God’s charge to us as given in today’s verse is in three steps. First, we are told to obey; i.e., "bring ye." This cannot be considered an option. Secondly, God proposes a test. "Prove me," He says, give and see if He lives up to His promises. Thirdly, trust His promise to meet our needs.

Note that His promise is also threefold. It abundantly covers present needs, for He promises to "pour you out a blessing" unmeasurable in quality or quantity. Likewise, it covers the threat of future loss. "And I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes, and he shall not destroy the fruits of your ground; neither shall your vine cast her fruit before the time in the field" (v. 11). Most precious is His promise to reward obedience and trust with a special relationship: "All nations shall call you blessed: for ye shall be a delightsome land" (v. 12).

Thus we see that with less than 100 percent of our income at our disposal, we will have greater financial security than if we had kept it all to ourselves, thereby robbing God. JDM

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BabaGnoni: Christians have incredible liberty
—no one can tell us what we must eat or drink, or what days we must observe. - OLAADEGBU

Famous quote which incidentally is applicable to tithing
Christians have incredible liberty, no one can tell us to tithe

OLAADEGBU: Words of Comfort: Keeping the Sabbath.

Scripture makes it clear that no one can be justified (made right with God) by keeping the Sabbath holy, or by keeping any other Commandment. All the Law does is bring the knowledge of sin to show us that we need a Saviour. Jesus fulfilled the demands of the Law, which means we can be made right with God through faith in Him alone (see Eph. 2:8,9). Believers now serve in the spirit, not the letter of the law, and the principle behind the Sabbath is this: Just as God created for six days then rested on the seventh, man is to work for six days and rest on the seventh—to cease working. Those who trust in Christ’s finished work on the cross have ceased trying to be justified through their own efforts and instead find their rest in Him. (See Heb. 4:3,10.) That is why keeping the Sabbath is a non-issue for Christians when it comes to eternal salvation. It is simply a matter of conscience. Christians have incredible liberty—no one can tell us what we must eat or drink, or what days we must observe.

www.NeedGod.com
www.nairaland.com/1839822/keeping-sabbath

OLAADEGBU: Tithes and Offerings
February 6, 2013.

"Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it" (Malachi 3:10).

Today there is much talk of financial security. The biblical formula in today’s verse, given to Israel, but applied to all, begins with a scathing indictment. "Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings" (v. 8 ). What a terrible thing, to rob God. The result of their thievery, in God’s eyes: "Ye are cursed with a curse" (v. 9), such that their financial state was much worse than it would have been had they been obedient. This teaching and promise has not been rescinded (Luke 6:38; 1 Corinthians 16:2; etc.).

God’s charge to us as given in today’s verse is in three steps. First, we are told to obey; i.e., "bring ye." This cannot be considered an option. Secondly, God proposes a test. "Prove me," He says, give and see if He lives up to His promises. Thirdly, trust His promise to meet our needs.

Note that His promise is also threefold. It abundantly covers present needs, for He promises to "pour you out a blessing" unmeasurable in quality or quantity. Likewise, it covers the threat of future loss. "And I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes, and he shall not destroy the fruits of your ground; neither shall your vine cast her fruit before the time in the field" (v. 11). Most precious is His promise to reward obedience and trust with a special relationship: "All nations shall call you blessed: for ye shall be a delightsome land" (v. 12).

Thus we see that with less than 100 percent of our income at our disposal, we will have greater financial security than if we had kept it all to ourselves, thereby robbing God. JDM

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brainpulse: To make the discuss/ teaching more healthy and interesting, I will suggest the organisers comes up with standing rules that will promote orderliness in presentations, respect of opinions and doctrines and recess that will allow outsiders participate, ask interrogating questions and keep abay if neccessary. The rules should be well understood and accepted by the participants.

DrummaBoy: [size=20pt] PROPOSED RULES FOR THE CONVENTIONS: For Presenters and Audience[/size]


1. Presentations should occupy only two posts with minimum of 2000 words and max 4000.

2. We encourage a neat presentation for ease of readability. If possible employing bold, italics, coloring and other nl editing features for aesthetics and enhance readership.

3. Presenters will be divided into three each for a day. Each presenter may state what time of each day is most convenient to make their posts.

4. Audience are encouraged to present their questions in a concise and straight to the point manner for a presenter only after a presenter has made his/her presentation.

5. Audience are not to ask presenters "leading" questions which are designed to ridicule a presenter. A presenter may decline to answer a question if they so wish

6. Goshen360 and DrummaBoy shall act as moderators to ensure order and to protect presenters from attacks.

7. Use of foul languages are prohibited on the convention thread. All nairaland forum rules subsist here too.

Please let us discuss the proposed rules with the intention of adding to them or subtracting. I shall be adding other rules as I remember them.

striktlymi: I thank everyone for the nomination. Though I would have preferred we keep to the time line (8a.m) already decided on but since I have the said number of nominations, I accept and confirm it tentatively.

If someone else gets a higher number of nominations before 8a.m then I would have no choice but to step down for the individual. The others can go ahead and pick their topics. I don't have an issue with it.

Goshen360: Thanks @ everyone. All nominees accepted their nominations. We should move on to vote one more WHILE we await the topics from D'boy, both of us have concluded on the topics and D'boy will list them out soon.

Thank you all.

BabaGnoni: Accepted
Thank you God for the grace etc etc.
thank you @FortresOfChrist(f), @MrAnony1(m), @trustman, @flourishG(m) and @ PastorKun(m) for the nomination
and thank you spyglaxx for the flyer, Goshen360 and DrummaBoy for organising.

BabaGnoni: https://s29.postimg.org/824xbzfv7/Pig_Marketing_evil.jpg

trustman: I accept.

nannymcphee: If u say God doesn't speak outside his word, can u answer the following

1. If he Christian is about to board a plane that has been earmarked to crash, how will God speak to him thru his word

2. If I have a choice between two sisters for marriage, how do I chose using his word assuming they both pass the requirement of being believers, peaceful, committed in church etc

3. How does God speak to me thru his word on the investment to make

the bible doesn't have clear direct instructions for certain events in life, school to go to, course to read, city to move to

So how do find instruction from the bible when it doesn't talk about these things

ihedinobi2: I had actually thought that we would be presenting on topics of our own choosing.

Goshen360: I think we should wait for the nominated 8 to ACCEPT and CONFIRM their nominations so we know we only have to vote one more....assuming all the 8 of them ACCEPT and CONFIRM their nominations. If 1 or 2 don't accept their nomination, we will have to nominate from the 4 candidates to make up the 9 speakers. If all the 8 of them accept their nominations, then we can vote one more within 24 hours.

MarkMiwerds: Blessings. If this is an online convention, I will be more than happy to attend. If it requires travel, I will not be able unless God provides.

alexleo: I vote for striktlymi as number 9.

DrummaBoy: striktlymi
Image123
Alwaystrue
Gombs
Peter007
PastorKun
trustman
BabaGnoni
Goshen360
Candour
Boomark
truthislight
Enigma (where is he?)
Joagbaje
Ihedinobi2
OLAADEGBU
christembassey
nlmediator
MrAnony1
PastorOluT
shdemidemi
Pastor AIO
Ayoku777
nuclearboy
DrummaBoy
ichuka
Yooguyz
alexleo
MarkMiwerds
nep2ra
nora544
banom
Ajibam
ubenedictus
SisterMe
bookmark
UyiIredia
italo
Ishilove
Reyginus
davidlyan
TomiGodson,
Joshthefirst
mbaemeka

spyglaxx: Widows mite

Sarassin: Thank you DrummaBoy, of course I will oblige, I am not a professing Christian, in fact I hold no religion. I practise Tantra.

Image123: If i start with you now, people would start pitying you. ehn? Who determines what is valid and what isn't. Is it just to say/declare something valid by 'word of faith'? We both know you guys never thought Ihe's points were valid. Only Candor is thinking so now which is news to me. Anyways, keep in line with the thread na abi you find this more interesting to discuss than your F points?

Image123: What i find interesting is your continuous interests in my non constructive remarks.

DrummaBoy: Image123 is the definition of a troll
Image123 made/makes dissenting views but invalid points
Image123 made/makes comments to lure others into combative arguments for the purpose of entertainment and gratuitous disruption
Image123 made/makes comment on this thread to incite anger, to provoke, harass or annoy the leading posters on this thread
Image123 is the definition of a troll

BabaGnoni: Nominating nora544 and trustman please.
PS: Why is mbaemeka missing on the list?

Image123: Candor, even Ihe says he wasn't wanted here, i dunno what you're talking about.