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Kobojunkie:
I have heard that repeated several times and I wonder what exactly that means and where this idea really comes from as it does not conform with that detailed in scripture.

Are you somehow implying that because the physical was created by the Spiritual from that which is physical then all that happens to the physical is the responsibility of the spiritual?

Yes!

PointZerom:
Ecclesiastes 12:13 (KJV)
Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.

THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED IN THE END AND WHAT MADE HIM A WISE MAN.

The moment you realised your mistakes and turn to God, you automatically becomes a wise man.

I just read Saul this afternoon 1 Samuel 15 and Saul tried turning back to God... And nothing for him.

When God casts you aside and rejects you, it is over. You are finished!

Carcholce:
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I mean Even God knows he was a foolish and selfish man but God was proud of him to have had the mind to do that and HE made history.

Either your Bible is torn or your eye has cracks. Every reasonable person sees that God left him when he became very very stupid and foolish, even upto the point that He (God) raised an enemy against him, just as his father was raised to be a torment to Saul.

Lukuluku69:
As usual. Turd!

The great Morun returns!

kkins25:
A pot was not made in the image of the Potter...

Change of Post!

masmnd8:
What about those with mental illiness or those who are frustated with life? I am sure You heard on the news that someone jump from 3rd mainland bridge, only some were to be rescued by good samaritans?

Hence the truth of the statement we say in Nigeria which is "who the gods want to destroy, they first make mad".

Which is actually in recognition of what God does to people just before they are destroyed, therefore the True statement is "Whom The Lord has appointed for destruction, first gets mad"!

Wilgrea7:
So my question is, if a god can choose not to adopt these negative attributes described here, isn't it possible for it not to adopt attributes that would lead to conflict in the case of multiple deities?

Correction! You don't need to be bad to use or adopt snakes, sticks, acid and poison.

2. Creations do not dictate to their Creators. A pencil or phone cannot instruct you on what would cause conflict or not.

Wilgrea7:
The issue of moral law is something I've actually been wanting to discuss for a while. I think I may create a thread on it soon. But there's a question I've been wanting to ask you.

I deliberately said "Law" and not moral Law.

Wilgrea7:
Do you agree that moral laws, like physical laws should be the same across the world/universe. Meaning regardless of where you go, that such a law should exist?

It would be tidier for you to raise a thread.

budaatum:
I think you might mean you yourself "can not say otherwise", because I have heard very many say otherwise.

Just saying in case some come and say otherwise. Not everyone is after all a part of your "we".

Every reasonable person would have told you that a pot cannot know the Potter better than the Potter himself.

Janosky:
This girl is a LIAR.
1 Corinthians 8:6 his Father is the Creator.

She did not lie.

His Father is The Commander in Chief while Jesus did the creating in obedience to The Commander in Chief, His Father!

Your stupid hatred makes you blind!

Yes.

As shown, Joseph had never been sleep with Mary at all until after Christ birth. It was then Mary and Joseph were free to copulate.

masmnd8:
i am been hearing that committing suicide is an instant straight to hell.

Most Certainly.

Self murder is complete proof that God has completely rejected you and turned His Back towards you

Which means that YOU ARE VERY VERY EVIL!

masmnd8:
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...Are they going straight hell? Is this a doctrine of men or is from the words of God in the Holy Bible? Where is it in the bible that committing sucide is a first class ticket to gates of Hell.

That is why the Bible said and stopped at "Thou shalt not kill"!

It did not say "thou shalt not kill another"

Therefore, "thou shalt not kill" includes "thou shalt not kill even thine own self!

So, you shall be guilty of Disobedience and Breaking God's Law!

2. What is God?

Ans: He Who is The Landlord and Owner of this House we call the world.

3. What is heaven and earth?
And: Spirit and Physical!

4. How were heaven and earth created?
Ans: Based on what The Maker Who made them said, we don't how heaven was made but He told us how He made the earth. So this is where I say go to Genesis where the Maker says how He made these things.

5. How can the earth be without form and void after being created?

Read well now, the earth was not formless and void after creation rather the statement said that the earth did not exist before creation.

6. How does the deep have a face that darkness was upon?

Ans: That is how The Maker created it to be.

7. God has a Spirit?
Ans: He is The One Who Said and He must surely know Himself more than us, so we can not say otherwise..

Wilgrea7:
Yes, But how exactly?

This is a whole text book on The Law of Contracts which takes a whole year for law students to learn and so it is impossible for me to teach you how the transaction operates in here. Which is why I have given you the simplest and comprehensible everyday living transactions for you to digest and work with.

Wilgrea7:
Once again, wonderful analogy. But if I may ask, what laws are we breaking exactly? If you want to compare humans to iphones, the only ways we can do so is via the laws of physics.

As long as you have confirmed the Truth that iPhone too is like us, in that it is ruled by Law. So you see, we are the same on this ground.

So since we are both ruled by law, so now you can understand my answer.

And since we have been given the power to break our Law unlike the iPhone, hence we get the attention of our Ruler and LawMaker!

Wilgrea7:
Okay. 2 things. To say that we are like God, is to say that our positives, as well as our negatives, are attributes he also possesses. For example, greed, malice, hatred, wickedness, and so on would also attributes of this God.

You have said the Word which is He also possesses or can take possession of it exactly as The Maker of iPhone cannot be lacking iPhone. That is what it means to be Creator.

Subject to His Right to either give it or refuse to give it.

And that is what makes God extremely dangerous to us, for if He should choose to do as we do, o boy, it brings shivers to imagine. But this is not the issue.

The issue is that I do confirm that He who gives pepper, certainly has plenty of pepper in his store. And that it is His Right to either give it or withold it, exactly as we do. So you see, no road here!

budaatum:
And the Seeker says,

1. When was the beginning?

2. What is God?

3. What is heaven and earth?

4. How were heaven and earth created?

5. How can the earth be without form and void after being created?

6. How does the deep have a face that darkness was upon?

7. God has a Spirit?

8. What is a Spirit?

9. Water? On a formless void earth?

10. What am I reading?

11. Who wrote it?

12. When was it written?

13. Why was it written?

14. Why am I reading it?

15. Will I ever get to the end of this very big book!

And all that from just two verses if read with one's own eye and mind.

P.s. This post is not seeking answers. Opinions are however welcome.

When reasonable questions are posed, then answers are sought, though we understand, that there are certain answers you do not wish to accept, as is your right.

However, because of the fact whilst you may not be accepting any unfavourable answers provided, others here will be using their own right to discern that which is True from that which is evil, therefore I answer.

1. When was the beginning? - by Genesis, the beginning refers to the beginning of man and this House which we call the world in which he was put to possess it like a house-none stranger and potential tenant who can not pay rent, being given a nice sweet and good house to live in, rent free, without duration. Ah! What a Good Good Landlord!

gbanapere:
Good morning nairalanders, my question is why do Christian men have to uncover their head during prayers mean while their female counterparts does the opposite.

Because Woman was the first in the whole earth to sin like Satan, and God has a thing for the first, and by this mess up, she is the one who destroyed mankind and God's plan for man as whole.

Therefore, like a guilty criminal, she can not show her face to God, for God is very very angry with her, as her destruction of mankind is still going on.

So she can not even come near God not to talk of showing herself.

Thus, the covering of herself is the mark of her shame and her acceptance that she knows that she is very guilty up to the extent that she knows that God should not see her.

So covering herself shows that she has made herself a small and low thing before God.

Preciousgirl:
... The Christ is the Creator Himself (Colossians 1:16...

Christ is The Creator of all other creations including us and this our House that we call world but Christ has His Father and clearly it is His Father Who brought Him forth.

Wilgrea7:
..I understand the analogy of the contract. What I'm asking is, in the situation where multiple people contribute money to employ someone to create something, would you still claim that the thing which was created has a single owner? If not, then you agree that things can exist via multiple creators.

The Contract settles these things.

Wilgrea7:
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I don't understand. How exactly does reality show we have only one creator? You've sparked my curiosity.

That is why I gave you the 2 Rulers and 2 Landlords and 2 Captain analogy.

Unlike the iPhone which is not capable of breaking the laws set and made over it, we are law breaking capable iPhones, hence, our Rulers will need to come and implement Judgement and punishment or honour over us.

Thus, if we have 2 Rulers, there must be war between them for there will be a case where one ruler would say it is okay and the other will say "not okay" as husband (Ruler 1) and wife (Ruler 2) have proven over their children (iPhone). We all know the war that has taken place over the rule of their children, in tandem with my 2 Rulers, 2 Landlords, 2 Captain analogy.

Wilgrea7:
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I wouldn't go as far as to say that people working together without conflict is a speculation or fabrication. Conflicts leads to disruptions in order, which is why we tend to notice them more quickly.

Hence the unimpeachable proof of 2 Rulers/landlord.

Wilgrea7:
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Also, another issue I have with the analogy is that it seems to assume that if a God/Gods exist, they will have the nature of humans.

AND THIS IS ANOTHER MAJOR PROOF OF GOD AND THE TRUTH OF THE BIBLE, FOR WE SEE THAT HE TRULY CREATED US "TO BE LIKE HIM" as proven by our own look likes called mannequins, mascots, robots meanwhile we also have the iphone, car, pencil etc which do not look like him, EXACTLY AS GOD TOO DID!

And we see that no other creation on earth has this quality.

So now, we can use our human nature to find, see and understand Him.

Oceanblaze:
Out of point

It's always on point to show that your statement is made under personal bias.

Oceanblaze:
Fairytale... religion na scam.

As you take dey deceive yourself say Buhari no be your president. Na just wetin you dey tell yourself so dat you fit sleep small without fear.

anoda:
Keeping in mind that God is Ominiscient. (Christian GOD)

Omniscient also means that God also knows that Satan could also have never been rebellious.

However, after all this knowing, the issue is that it is Satan's decision to decide to either remain obedient and faithful as the other Sons of God have done or fall away.

And after everyone's doing, God too, shall Do His own Doing.

pansophist:
And why do the gatekeepers of Christianity doctrines, such as the pastors, and bishops, accept such?

Because, they too are not Christians either.

MITCHELL96:
How can i make God grant my personal wishes/Request ?

This is one of the wrongest question ever and with this in mind, it is a guarantee that God would not ever hear you.

Kayouzka:
Heaven or hell is not a place it a state

Obviously this is what you tell yourself to keep yourself from going mad with fear.

pansophist:
Christianity vs islam

Christianity right now has become a joke. I watch how all manners of degeneration slowly encroach and become the norms. From gay pastors to transgender members, to criminals who donate huge funds while the church blesses them instead...

Correction! It is not Christianity that has fallen but the people who claim to loving Christianity who have turned themselves to the scums of the earth.

MITCHELL96:
I have something that's been borthering me for some years now, I have walked with faith, fasted, prayed and even lived a holy life, trust me, not capping. But nothing, nothing at all. To the point I have to make that statement for me to believe that yes, God exists.

And this is one of the things men refuse to learn about God, which is, He is not your genie and personal wishmaster.

He is God, our Creator and creations do not dictate nor command their creators like your phone nor pencil does not command you.

And like your phone and car, it is at your pleasure you shall fix (heal) whatever ails them whether they ask or not.

Kayouzka:
Death looks the same way has life looks like because no one can ever phantom what it like not be, nature oppose a vacuum, you can never experience nothingness. Hell, heaven and so on are just concepts and concepts are illusions where ever you at is where it at

If you have watched the deaths of people you would see that heaven and hell is not a concept but a place.

Sanusiade:
A healthy Christian life is
A life that
■read the bible
■pray
■and go to church

If you do not do anyone of the above make adjustment.

Even devils and sinners can do all these.

You did not say the most important ingredient which is "to do the right and good only in the eye God" 1

infini771:
The followers of Jesus Christ were first called Christians at Antioch, because they behave and act like Christ.
1. Christianity means Christ-like or like Christ....

And in the end you did not say the most important element which is to behave and do exactly as Christ did! The real and original "Christ likeness."

MITCHELL96:
Yes, We're are creators. We're capable of creating anything.

You cannot create anything eg no man has created something out of emptiness. It is not possible.

Man is always using what has been created already to create, which is why man cannot create another earth since they have ruined this one.

MITCHELL96:
But, it's the prove that we're looking for. You know Seeing is believing right ? Have you seen any physical prove that God exists rather than the teachings in the Bible ?

Because so many people are still dwelling in that. Ponder on this.

Isreal and Muslim hatred for Christians and Egypt and Rome and Germany's mass murder of the Israelites are one of the many "seeable" Proofs of God.

Wilgrea7:
Yes. But according to your argument, if someone pays me to do the creation, then they're technically the owners.. and not me.

Ok.. i have another question. What if multiple people contribute to pay me to create something.. who then is the owner?

And I have said contract has settled these things.

Wilgrea7:
Exactly... Now you're getting my point. The case of apple is a case where multiple people can create something, instead of one.

And like the iPhone, we iPhones would see and hear that we have 2 Creators.

But the real-eyeity and evidence has shown already that we have only One Creator, so no thing for you.

It is you iPhones who are fabricating and trying to put in 2 Creators

Wilgrea7:
I understand your point.. but i think you're making the assumption that just because conflict or disagreement exists, then it always has to exist.

That is the certainly of real-eyeity. We have Seen the action and we have seen that all other actions that people have imagined have never occurred, therefore, the action that has been Seen rules.

Which is why all other conjectures that have not happened remain in the darkness and uselessness of speculations and fabrications.

And Truth is not about speculation and fabrications but about what things are Seen aka real-eyeity.

Wilgrea7:
Similarly, in the event of multiple Creators.. if they disagreed on the laws of the universe, the universe would not exist for us to judge whether or not they agreed. The fact that we exist, is proof that no matter how many creators were involved.. they at least had to agree for things to be the way they are.

And all the disagreement is resolved because One vetoed it. So you have only proven and supported my case.